Ok let’s do this one more time. In his last 3 games Loveland has had 10+ targets, 90+ yards and averaged 8 receptions. Including the playoff game tonight with 15 targets, 8 catches, 137 and a 2-pt conversion, in a game where the Bears had all weapons active.
Who are you taking ahead of Loveland next year? The only TE’s that are for sure ahead of him at this point to me, are McBride/Bowers/Kittle and that’s it.
Id take him 3 after Bowers McBride tbh.
But actually id just chill until like round 10+ and take Juwan Johnson for the free TE with 7 or so targets a game
Juwan Johnson helped me tread water at TE all the way to a championship this year
Fannin was very solid for me in the second half. I may look at drafting him
Bro Fanin basically put my team on his back down the stretch
Njoku won’t recover that workload he’s a safe bet
I had both Johnson and Fannin at the beginning and really wish I held onto them instead of waiting for Kincaid to come back and do nothing.
Literally same (until I picked up Henry to stack with Maye) but Juwan got me some solid wins
I was a damn fool for dropping him after that mid season lull. I had Warren so I figured I'd be good, but JJ was the better pick of the two in that last stretch.
Late TE is the move, we’ll have to see what his ADP is. If it’s above round 6, I’m punting late
Not exactly. McBride or bust was the move.
Exactly, so the move is bust in round 14 instead of round 5
Yeah McBride was like the 4th most rostered player on championship teams and only TE in the top 20.
He’s the new Kelce
McBride is the new Kelce. Next season’s he’s your number 1 pick in the late 1st. It’s like having a WR1 in your TE slot
It was mostly garbage points with Jacoby. Not banking on that
Plus the Cardinals had no run game. Everything had to go right for McBride to pop off in fantasy.
He's a great TE, but I don't see him replicating this season
mcbride was very good with Kyler. He became an absolute stud with Brissett. Just keep the QB situation in mind
Tommy Tremble bb lol. I totally tweaked not keeping McBride in my keeper league last season (2025) but I kept bijan for 1 and Daniels for a 9th keeper. Wasted my second keeper on Jayden instead of McBride for a third when everybody starts nabbing em (keepers move up one draft position when keeping). I even fought for hockenson after they all were drafted who was total ass. I'm also keeping Fannin in lieu of Daniels this coming season all considering.
Dynasty? Fair.
Redraft? Insane level of recency bias going on here. Kraft? Warren?
The guy coming off an ACL and the rookie who isn’t as involved in the offense as Loveland? Yes
Going off a rookies 2nd half of season isn’t recency bias lol
I do think Warren is fair though if Jones is back
I’m absolutely taking Loveland over Warren lol
Agree on juwan, he was great for me this year. I had him and fannin jr rotating all season. IMO if you don’t get mcbride, there’s no reason to reach for a TE. I opted this route and ended up with such a stud WR core this year. Same opinion on QB too, no reason to reach unless you get Josh Allen
Kraft fell to me late. Supplanted by Juwan.
Won a chip. Don't think in ever drafting a TE at or above ADP again or at least in the foreseeable future.
I will say this. I like him and think you’ll have a good season next year. However, part of his value has come from the fact that Rome and Burden have been banged up.
I actually do think you’ll be better next season and agree with you that the three spot for tight end is probably fair. But I also think that he might see fewer targets than the very end of this season.
Then again, I had literally said the same thing about McBride last season because he played so many games with Harrison and Wilson out. So I also might be completely wrong.
Honestly, that’s the move. If you don’t have a guy like McBride fall to your draft slot, shag TE and pick up a rookie or a guy that’s B tier, but gets targeted.
I think I have the same ranking and boy do I hate taking the position that early but he’s on my reached list on the way to early draft board
Yeah that makes sense, sometimes waiting and grabbing a solid TE later just feels safer.
I think I’m taking Loveland over Bowers. The Raiders suck and I’ll take a trusted TE on a good offense over the Raiders.
And if the Raiders take Mendoza?
Are they also drafting an O line or just making Mendoza a piñata
They have a 100 million in cap space and are getting back Kolton Miller and JPJ from injury
Ooh. Mendoza to Bowers could be beautiful with protection. I’d love to see them draft Saratt in the second too 😍
Mendozas career is over if he goes to the raiders
This is a terrible take. Loveland is not always going to be the go-to guy every game. They’re not always going to abandon the run as much as they did in an 18 point deficit.
Bowers is heart and soul of his offense & has given us TE1 & TE2 PPG season finishes in his rookie + sophomore years. We have no reason to doubt him other than ones we’re making tf up.
Shhhh, let people over react.
Bowers was TE8 this year.
Loveland is very clearly one of Caleb’s most trusted weapons and that trust was strongest late season and last night. He’s basically Tucker Kraft at the end of 2024.
This is exactly why I used PPG; missing a couple games should not disadvantage Bowers when his PPG was 14.7 in PPR vs. Loveland’s 10.8.
Loveland is incredibly talented, but so are Odunze, Burden & Moore. I’m willing to boost Loveland if they exercise their potential out in Kmet’s contract this season, but his cap hit isn’t extraordinary & I would be surprised if they let him go. That means until then, he’s still not getting ~100% of the team’s TE1 snaps either.
We’re looking at a guy who has to share his targets with 3-4 other demanding contributors, and that’s without going into check downs to Swift/Monangai. The consistent volume will not be there for him in a fantasy sense without significant changes to this offense.
Using PPG is the right call but there should be some added weight to the end of season PPG. Even more so for a rookie and more so for a rookie TE
Good points. I just see a level of contribution from Loveland that will shock people at the end of next year.
Hope more people think like this so I can get bowers. Dude put ip numbers with one of the shittiest squads I’ve seen. With Mendoza/real oline coach/oline signing he’s gonna be mini gronk from here on out (fantasy wise won’t be the blocker gronk was)
I feel the same way about Bowers.
This year, my league mates more or less rushed for McBride and Bowers. I was more than happy to take Kittle, and back him up with Kraft.
I still like Kittle but his age is concerning me. So, I will be more than happy to take Loveland and Kraft.
You do realize they'll have a new coach and Mendoza next year, right? Bowers is going to go off.
Yeah, a rookie QB with a new coach trying to implement a new system.
They’ll be better than literal worse, but they’ll be maybe a 5 win team next year.
I’ll take the TE on an aggressive, competent offense with the QB who trusts him enough to target him 15 times in crunch time playoff game for 137 yards.
Raiders will have Mendoza, their injured linemen back, and will be a surprising good team next year. Give me Bowers and jesnty above their adp everywhere
Jeanty maybe, depending on ADP. But you’re making a good case for Bowers in 2027.
I’ll take Caleb trusting Loveland more and more, versus a rookie QB.
Raiders could be dangerous next year with the right coach.
He did well with a crappy Raiders team last year. Its all about Geno.
Tripping
I love that people are upvoting this. It's so easy to beat people like you in fantasy.
Loveland is good. I will happily watch everyone overpay for him, and ride my comfortable toyota camry (Fannin) to the promised land once more.
Huge question mark at who’s gonna be the QB for fannin. But the talent is there!
Dude was top 10 with replacement QBs, he’ll be serviceable with a low ADP
Some of his production comes from being a security blanket to ass tier QBs though
Well then when you lose in that you gain in QB skill and offensive potency. Seems like a win win to me
How did that work out for Bowers?
Seriously the fantasy football amnesia people have with every offseason is insane lol
Fannin is the TE6 on ktc. There's a solid chance he ends up being a top 5 TE drafted with the preseason hype and Kraft/laporta/Kittle injury concern
Fannin is unstartable for the first chunk of next season if they’re serious about starting Watson again
I cannot imagine they seriously fire everyone and then force Watson on another coach
Never underestimate the Browns in this regard.
They kept the GM though
Quite literally nobody has suggested that the Browns are even entertaining starting Watson lol.
Mary Kay Cabot the Browns beat reporter said it's possible like two weeks ago.
Just seeing the hype 8 months before the next Fantasy season is making me a bit wary. He will probably be drafted at his ceiling.
At that point I'd rather grab Burden (who looks like he will break out next year), then just grab Tyler warren who had his hype down completely but is just as talented as Loveland.
If not punting on TE is best, there's plenty of guys next year that can be serviceable. Fannin, Kincaid, Gadsen, Strange, Juwan Johnson, Ferguson, Kraft etc...
Yeah I love him but he’s going to have a major hype train
Fannin's not gonna be that far behind. He'll probably be ~2 rounds behind Kittle/Kraft/Loveland, around LaPorta i'd expect.
i got both in dynasty draft last year!
I love how we all think we’ll get Fannin late, which means someone will reach early af for him. The hype train is a real thing lol
Fannin I have as the best behind McBride and Bowers. Browns have no competition for targets, their WR1 is Jeudy. Fannin was resembling what McBride did at the back end of 2023 before he fully broke out. Even with Sanders throwing at 50%, Fannin ate. So we’ve already seen his bottom…he’ll be the focal point next year
Can’t argue that. I’d consider Warren a top option. We will see on Schultz and I’d definitely keep my eye on Tucker krafts recovery
Warren absolutely vanished after Jones went down. Well see.
He was kind of vanishing before Jones went down
Jones himself pumpkined a decent bit in those last 2 games before he fully went down. I’m uneasy about the colts as a whole next year, especially seeing what QBs look like the year after Achilles tears.
Well cause he was playing on a broken fibula lmao
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People are downvoting because you're both getting the facts completely wrong. It was announced he'd been playing on a broken fibula "for weeks" by the time the Achilles game happened, it was not the prior week. The exact timeline of the injury is unclear. I somewhat agree things had started unraveling already but your timeline is wrong, you're confusing the announcement with the injury.
He sure did but I kind of expected that with rivers and Leonard. He is definitely behind the ones op mentioned. Probably could get a nice discount for that reason
Would Jane added Warren but you’re right. Jones might have just been a blip on the radar and then vanished
The range of outcomes for Warren make him undraftable to me. While every player carries injury risk, Warren also carries a near zero point floor even when healthy with Steichen as the offensive playcaller. But the ceiling being high will also push his draft price way too high. I could be wrong and he balls in 2026, but id rather be wrong about that than be caught holding the bag if he sucks.
???
He had fewer than 5 targets twice. His worst game pre-Jones injury was a 6.8. How is his floor a near zero?
Fannin over Warren, Kraft over both.
Kraft will be slept on going into this year because of the injury. He won’t be nearly as high as he should be
I have Loveland and Coker in dynasty, so you can imagine how turgid this day's slate made me.
Same here! To the moon we go my friend
Today was a good day
Turgid or tumescent?
Love/Coke bro checking in!
The cat is out of the bag, so like many decent TE's, he will be over drafted in rounds 5-8.
I expect a lot of pundits to be very high on him will will push up his ADP. Plus, if Da Bears lose a pass catcher then it's good news for CL.
Taking 2 TE flyers (Warren, Juwan, Loveland this season) late is still the best play imho.
5-8 would be great value for him if he plays like he did this last month. I'm afraid the hype train is gonna carry him into the 3-4 range, especially if he keeps balling out in the playoffs
Exactly this. The problem is that there are too many TEs occupying the same spot. The key will be to hold your ground and just be fine with whichever one drops, and if the whole draft plays chicken, then everyone wins.
You have McBride and Bowers leading things. And then you have this scrum of Loveland, Kraft, Warren, Henry, Gadsden, Pitts, Tremble, Johnson, Kittle, Fannin, LaPorta and Parkinson (and actually a few others), who could easily be a top tier TE next season if the winds blow the right way.
Sure McBride is going to be a slam dunk. But he's also looking to be a round 2 guy. McBride is great but is having McBride and David Montgomery better than James Cook and Loveland/Fannin?
Loveland and Fannin will probs go in round 4/5. There will be a run on RBs and TEs early in drafts next year as everyone sees there is a huge WR deadzone after like the top 16 guys. Everyone here is talking like these high upside TEs are going to drop. A better example is if McBride / Montgomery is better than Cook / Shultz / high upside rookie TE ( assuming DMont stays in a committee ). I’d take McBride / Montgomery every single time even if Monty is still in a committee
If they go in the 4th/5th, then take any of the other ones mentioned.
The point is that the position is very flat after 1+2 in expectation, and much deeper than before.
In a 12 team league, just be OK with whoever you get from Fannin, Loveland, Warren, Henry, Kraft, Pitts, Johnson, Gadsden, and Ferguson. All of them are completely acceptable.
They thing is that someone has to drop. No one is spending their 8th round pick on a 2nd TE.
The position is super deep for a 1 off. It's the same with QB. Drafting any QB other than Allen before round 10 this year (and basically every year) is just a mistake. Same goes for TE now.
Yes, there will be an outlier. You are much safer not trying to guess which one it is, plauing the wire, and instead having more RB/WR depth.
If Fannin, Warren, Loveland are there in round 8 and I took McBride / Bowers in the Second, I’d 100% take them in 8th along with A few of the other guys you mentioned depending on how their offseasons go. Are you telling me you wouldn’t take them over guys like Jeudy / Ridley if you took McBrdie / Bowers early? I hear what you’re saying in a general sense, but I don’t agree with you including most of those guys in the tier that would drop to round 8
I mean, history is on my side here. Look were TEs go. In round 8 in a 12 man this year, you could have had Egbuka, Olave, Deebo, Odunze, Diggs, and Myers. All of those were around that ADP
Meanwhile, if we are saying that Fannin, Warren and Loveland are TEs 4-6 (After Kittle, Bowers, and McBride), TE's 4-6 last year had average ADPs of 60, 70, and 83.
So yeah. And thats saying those guys are 4-6, which isn't counting LaPorta, Kraft, or Pitts in the mix at all. The next 3 TEs were 89, 96, 107.
So in an average 12 person draft, you couldnhave taken the 7th best TE on the board in round 9.
It will be the same this year, as it is every year. In a 12 person league, TE 12 will be drafted in round 11 or 12.
You’re talking in generalities now. I answered your direct question earlier when I said who’d I draft in round 8 if I had already taken a TE earlier. You didn’t respond at all to my question, and are essentially saying history supports your argument without answering my question at all. Recent history is very supportive of WR dead zone that wasn’t a consensus even last year. You can pray that Loveland, Fannin or Warren are there in round 8, but the reality is that those guys will be gone in any decent league that is well informed about recent trends. You can take Henry in the 8th and that’s fine, but don’t act like any high ceiling high floor TE will be there in round 8 in any decent league.
They just won't be. People won't pull the trigger. And they won't win if they do.
I went 5 for 5 in leagues this year, and it was because of 2 main things:
My teams had rotated TEs until Fannin became stable, and my QBs were Dak, Maye and eventually Lawrence. Anyone can do this. It isn't hard. But people are addicted to taking these admittedly good players and not playing the actual game, which is just maximizing your points per pick.
I had the depth at RB and WR to beat injuries, and everyone else didn't because they take QBs and TEs too early.
You can look at the numbers. Taking a QB or TE before round 8 is a net negative to average win rate.
You’re going in circles. You love numbers and deflection. you still didn’t answer my original question bc you know you’re wrong. I directly answered your question, you didn’t respond, so I think we’re good here with our debate.
Wait, that wasn't some rhetorical thing?
No. Of course I wouldn't take a second TE in the 8th if I took one in the 2nd. Why would you spend your 8th overall pick on a bench player, or someone who permalocks up your flex spot? He'll, I don't even want to draft my first TE in the 8th, nevermind my second.
That said, I would never take one in the 2nd. I think I've made it pretty clear that if your first 8 (or more) picks aren't WRs and RBs, then you are doing yourself a disservice.
Like, ESPN released their numbers. McBride and Kittle were the only TEs listed in their top 50 players on winning rosters that were drafted before round 10.
Montgomery and Loveland won’t be close in adp, imo
Exactly. Unless things change quite a bit by draft season, Loveland is going to be the hot name after this. He'll be a good TE but not for a 4th or even 6th.
Why might you suggest the Bears to lose a pass catcher? Or do you mean to injury or something
There have been rumors that DJ Moore could be traded. But he has a huge contract.
TAKE ME TO THE LOVE LAND
Mister Love Laaaaand.
Loveland over Kittle if you want to get him. I’m all in personally. Dude is a menace.
Stud
I consider Loveland someone that I would pick up if someone in my league doesn’t draft him after 5 or 6 rounds. I am not sure I would feel totally confident reaching for him earlier than that.
With his usage the last 3 games and the draft capital spent on him, easily a top 5 drafted TE next year.
It would be crazy to say not top 5
It would be crazy to say that there is a top five which is separated from the rest, as opposed to a top 2-3 and then 7-8 people for whom you should just take one of the last available.
Put otherwise, why take Loveland if Goedert, Kraft or Henry will be there 2-3 rounds later?
Goedert and Henry aren't in the same universe talent wise. Obviously Kraft is but it would depend on when he's expected to be fully healthy.
Goedert was TE7 this year, TE6 on PPG and TE5 if you take out Kyle Pitts's one game when you probably weren't starting him. Henry was TE9 and darn consistent.
Unless a TE is on that McBride/Bowers tier, it just doesn't matter that much.
im personally having him as my te3, kittle is the only one id consider putting over him but its clear to me that hes incredibly legit
It’s his ability to line up all over the field, he runs every route, and he’s an elite blocker already… all at 21 years old. The dude is special!
thats what separates him from a ton of guys! he is a mismatch just about anywhere on the field, and ben johnson loves his tes! hes gonna be an absolute unit for years to come
Not hating on Loveland at all dude is an absolute unit, recency bias is giving me hope I’m gonna get Tucker kraft at a steal again
If Kraft didn't get hurt and kept playing at the same level, people would be talking about him like a 3rd or 4th rounder. Injuries tend to make people forget about guys, and obviously there is some risk involved with a guy coming off a knee injury, but I think Kraft is gonna fall again next year and be an absolute steal.
I’m waiting for Brenton Strange as always (:
Drafted him in Dynasty so finally happy I might be able to avoid the TE merry-go-round I have to play through every year for a change.
The way I see it …. Johnson comes in and uses his first pick at number 10 to draft Loveland. Towards the end of the year he’s now the main target in big games. He’s 21. If you believe Ben Johnson is an elite play caller then to me you draft Loveland near the top of the group. The only guy I’d want over him is McBride at this point. Love bowers but the team, coach, qb, offensive line leave a lot to be desired at this point
Loveland is good but suffers from Kmet being decent while Bowers/McBride/Kittle have no competition
You haven’t watched the games recently have you?
Kmet was 33rd overall in receiving yards, only 7% target share behind Loveland, only 40 routes less than Loveland. Yeah he had a down year in comparison to prior years, but he will continue to eat into Loveland’s production.
For comparison, Bride was 1 overall in receiving yards and the cardinals TE2 (Higgins) is 38 overall. Pitts, who was 2, and the falcons TE2 (Woerner) is 86 overall. Loveland was 9 and Kmet was 33, so they clearly eat into each other
The last 3 games Loveland is an entirely different player than kmet. Kmet functions as a viable option in 2TE sets, but rarely has been targeted since Loveland has broken out. Only 2 games since the cincy breakout where kmet has been targeted more than 3 times.
The way that Loveland has been deployed in the last 3 games has been more similar to amon ra, than laporta in my opinion.
3 games!? Hell of a sample size there
Then fade him.
I hope he gets hype and high ADP... hopefully Warren also. If so I think Fannin will be a great value.
With Kittle's injury, Kraft ACL recovery tbd, plus Warren and Fannin's QB situations, Loveland probably goes TE3 by ADP. LaPorta, Kincaid, Pitts, Gadsden are all a tier below for now
Top 10 Pick for a reason
I’m using a keeper on him for my final pick fs
Traded bowers for Loveland, KW3, Coker, and a 2nd in dynasty
He won me the chip this year
I picked him up in week 9 and started him because CIN was weak against TEs.
I made it to the championship game and ran two TEs (Goedert and Loveland) and won the league.
This is a 24 team league with two conferences drafting separately .Loveland was never picked up in the other conference. The guy playing in the 3rd place same had Kittle and picked up Dalton Schultz instead.
I loved Loveland this year. My son asked me this: who’s the better fantasy TE outlook next year Tyler Warren or Colston Loveland? I’d prod go with Loveland. Assuming Danny Dimes is back and healthy, who are you guys taking and why?
Loveland is a more skilled player who will be playing with a better QB and playcaller.
No-brainer.
I think he will eventually go either #3 or #4 in drafts at TE. McBride and Bowers will be #1 and #2, but Kittle and Loveland will go next. I think the QB situation will scare people off Warren going above them. I feel like he is going to get drafted pretty high though. Probably 3rd round. That might be too expensive.
Loveland is the best player on the bears offense and I would definitely target him above whatever his ADP ends up being.
We are watching Loveland do some historic things at the age of 21 and people in here think he is “overhyped” just because he got slowly worked into the game plan this year. Some of you really do need the expert rankings
Pretty dark but with Kittle’s Achilles popping, Loveland’s 2026 value rises
Gonna go way higher than he should in redraft. Bears generally want to run the ball and wont be down 21-3. Too many mouths to feed there
I'd say Loveland is a top 5 guy. Building some huge potential with Caleb being a franchise guy and will have a lot of activity even with Moore, Burden, and Rome in Chicago.
He’s got the best hands on the team and he’s only a 21 yo rookie. He’s probably TE 3-4 in fantasy next year imo
Second TE off the board
Dude's been absolutely cooking these past few weeks but idk if I'm ready to crown him top 4 just yet - need to see how he handles a full season as the primary target before I'm putting him over guys like LaPorta or Kelce (if he's still playing)
It's a lot of mouths to feed so he'll have games where he'll just totally disappear. Then again, ben johnson basically turned the bears into the lions so all their pieces are valuable
He’s legit never covered
What if this version of “the lions” Loveland is used as the big slot role that sun god fills? He runs a ton of routes in that 5-15 yard area.
His versatility makes him much less likely to have disappear games. He’s had 5+ targets in like 9 straight or something close to that.
That might be true but I think he's the least likely of the bunch to vanish. Seems like he is the first guy Caleb is looking for every play. I wouldn't rely on any of those wideouts though
Keep McBride (2nd) or Loveland (7th)?
Well Tucker Kraft will be back so him and Warren are probably up there with Loveland.
I do think Loveland could be amazing next year but I would like to see at least 1 of kmet or Moore not there next year :p
Obviously Moore leaving would be ideal for Loveland, but kmet is off no concern. Is will not be involved in the passing game any more than any other TE2 in the league. Plus he is a quality TE2 that allows them to play out of 12 personnel often. I also like Smythe and their 13 personnel packages where they can play both jumbo physical football or go spread and use Loveland as a WR.
I think if the Bears trade for Maxx (they surely will at least make an offer), DJ will very likely be a part of that deal, so there's a real chance he's moved. He's streaky and expensive and the Bears are overflowing with pass-catchers so he's more a luxury than need for them.
Everyone has forgotten Laporta?
His old OC is now the head coach where?
Shhhh
Entirely depends on DJ Moore if he leaves or not and how much the bears defense improves in 2026. If he stays and their defense becomes, let's say, league average at 15th in ppg, then I think Lovelands volume will disappoint. Ben Johnson will feed two RBs a big meal any chance he can, except when the defense is pure ass and bleeding points at will. Looking at 2025 success will not indicate 2026 success, the offseason matters a lot here.
I recommend to go after whoever wins the John Mackey award next, Bowers and Warren were the last two to win it and you were able to get them really cheap their first year - that award is a good indicator on a cheap TE with high ceiling.
it's a good problem to have with all this young talent available at TE
love Kraft as long as he's recovered fully. Hard to rank him healthy vs. Loveland vs. Fannin vs. Warren. Have to see how some of their QB situations play out too (Fannin/Warren)
McBride, Kittle, Bowers, Fannin, Loveland. Maybe Warren at 6 but ehh
Idk about you guys but I’m all in on Loveland next year.
I wouldn't even take Kittle ahead of him. He's already 32. I think it's him or Warren as TE3 (assuming Daniel Jones stays at Indy).
I do redraft and honestly I wouldn’t waste picks for TE. Theres only a few TE who’s consistent and a lot of other TEs who could do average, might as well just use those picks for bench depth and trade up.
I've got a huge Bears fan in my league, I'll never be able to get him
Does reliable TE exist? Even McBride will have to perform at the absolute top of his range again to be equal value to ADP let alone return extra value.
What Loveland has done since the breakout game vs cincy (which is an 11 game sample at this point) is about as reliable as you could ask for out of TE.
During that 11 games he has a 17 game pace of 93/1130/9. Also only had a couple dud games.
Bears were missing the their top WR for most of that. An important factor to consider.
Yes absolutely agree. My point more about the historic repeatability of the position. If he's in with the other 'could be worth a flyer' bracket, absolutely. Same as Fannin. If he's in the TE to the moon like La Porta, Bowers etc, where you're paying a premium, I personally think, and my opinion is worthless, but they just aren't worth it.
He'll probably have a 4th round adp, especially if he has another big game next week, but I'd draft him there. Depends, because there are 5 really good options, if Warren is going after Loveland I'd be happy with him too.
This is why I drafted him this season! Unfortunately for me it took a while to get him integrated into the pass game and of course I had to drop him.
Hard to see Loveland not being the No. 4 TE in early 2026 rankings. McBride, Bowers and Kittle will likely remain just higher for now
I think it’s too many mouths to feed tbh. Would rather still take Juwan over him later rounds.
Rome hasn't been active most of the 2nd half of the year and one game being active isn't an indicator that won't be a problem. Combine that with Burden really coming on, and I think Bears targets are going to get very crowded next year.
Depends on Colts QB situation but Warren has less legit target competition and I think are similarly talented players.
I'm still taking Kraft and Laporta over him depending on health. Laporta was on pace for nearly 100 catches for 1000 yards this year.
I’m just annoyed that I took him as my TE this year and he didn’t amount to much of anything for the first half of the year, which led to me releasing him. I knew the potential was there, but it came out super late in the year.
Are Loveland and Bowers rewlly about to be 2 of my 3 keepers? Or should I just be happy to have "played defense" so nobody else can keep Loveland?
If he's going that high it's unequivocally a full fade for me. I think it's reasonable he could finish there but the risk is far too high to spend that capital.
I"m in a 3 keeper league. Now call me crazy, but I'm considering keeping Bijan, Omarion, and Loveland and kicking Nico back to the draft. Only 1 RB slot with a flex so I'll just hammer WR's until I get one right.
He’s up there to be honest. Great offense and really looks like the goto on the team now. Tonight I think spoke a lot, everyone healthy and he still did his thing. I am still not drafting TE early so someone else will get him.
4th round ez
I'm drafting him
As a Colts fan… he is way better it seems.
This guy obviously didn't watch Warren this year. Warren finished TE5 on the season. It's actually kind of unheard of for a tight end to be that good their rookie season. McBride is in his own league and then there is a very close margin for the next five or so tight ends. Then you have Loveland at #12. You watched him play well for a couple games and said he's better than Warren, gtfo and please don't claim to be a colts fan.
Triggered
Going to be next year's LaPorta the year everyone drafted him high and he ended up just being okay.
Damn y’all learn nothing lmao
It’s all about value. TE is now very much like QB. Yea it’s immense value to have an anomaly at the position, but the only true anomaly is McBride and probably Bowers with a QB. Loveland could become that but they still have a lot of mouths to feed and Burden should be unleashed and Odunze will be fully healthy
The greater value is getting that player later. So if he is indeed ranked as high as TE4 it’s a pass.
Don’t forget you’re gonna have Fannin without Njoku, Kraft at a discount coming off injury, year 2 Tyler Warren, year 2 Gadsden, Isiah Likely on a traditional non-Lamar offense
So the blueprint is going to be exactly the same as how you got Loveland—-pass on the bigger name (unless it’s McBride) and draft 2 guys later
Why is everyone talking like Mendoza is going to boost Bowers next year? Mendoza is a 5th round talent at best.
I wouldn’t go into the year with hm as my TE4 after half a good season. LaPorta, Pitts, Juwan Johnson, Warren, etc.
Besides, I think Loveland will have too high of an ADP.
"half a good season" and has the gall to mention warren pitts and juwan lol
Kyle Pitts was 2nd in receptions, yards, and TDs. Juwan and Warren were good all season, though Warren less so with Danny Dimes out.
Weeks 1-12 Pitts was TE15. You can't really criticize someone for half of a good season and then mention Pitts.
He was nearly unplayable in games that London was healthy. He averaged 8.9 PPG in full PPR in games that London also played.
That week 15 game is doing a lot of heavy lifting.
I’m very curious how Pitts will get used next year. Could be a good mid value guy