Does he say why women want to disfigure themselves, or can we assume these women support this farce of an admin because they hate themselves as much as MAGA does?
The ruling and aristocrat class has traditionally had their own version of beauty... Just look at civilizations across history. Doesn't mean it's attractive or a reflection of the rest of society...
Heian Japan: white-painted faces and blackened teeth for aristocrats.
17th–18th century Europe: giant powdered wigs and decorative face patches.
Ancient Egypt: heavy kohl eyeliner, perfume, and ornate wigs for nobles.
Renaissance Italy: plucked hairlines to create high foreheads, pale complexions.
Imperial China: foot-binding (“lotus feet”) among wealthy families.
18th-century France: bright red rouge, powdered faces, and opulent fashion.
Almost all of those fashion and beauty trends were some way or another of flaunting wealth and/or leisure time in the faces of those they deemed less than. The “Mar A Lago face” is right up there, showing they have the money to get these procedures that fundamentally separate them from the commoners by virtue of their appearance
Is it really that expensive, though? Seriously asking because I have no idea, I just know I know some women who are not fabulously wealthy who have gotten at least some of that type of work done.
A deep plane face lift, such as Kris Jenner had can cost over $100k with the right surgeon. Though she did have better more realistic work done. But just getting your hair cut and colored, nails, spray tan, hair removal done can cost $1000 a month or more depending where you go and that's before extensions or wigs. Ozempic shots aren't cheap. Of course that's before surgeries. On the plus side despite their money they all seem to wear outfits from Shien so that's easy for the poors to copy.
I can say the pictures online... I would never have guessed a deep plane face lift was part of the "Ma-a-lago" look. I think that's the only one that really surprised me (and yeah, I would have never have guessed it'd be that much. But reading about what it is... I can actually understand wanting a good surgeon for it.)
And out of all of them we look back through history and wonder why the fuck people dressed up to look bat shit crazy.. people of now and the future will look back in horror at the mar a lago faced monsters of the time.
showing they have the money to get these procedures that fundamentally separate them from the commoners by virtue of their appearance
this is fictional, but the ruling elite of the Orokin Empire from the videogame Warframe had themselves genetically or surgically altered to have shades of skin that are more blue, gray or slightly green etc, or also having one of their arms heavily extended to basically be able to reach close to their feet, seemingly all in an effort to showcase themselves as being separate from the regular population and as the "gods" they represented themselves to be by not looking "mortal"
Maybe they have so much money they get a body double and the body double gets the surgeries. Meanwhile the rich person ages normally and no one recognizes them so they aren’t harassed. Sorry, it’s early and I’m high.
Bruv, then why the fuck are we stuck with the dumbest/boring looking one? Fuck it, bring back white painted faces with Kohl eyeliners, black teeth, and foot binding for aristocrats. I need to see Bezos covered in white paint with powedered wig goddammit.
21st century US: injected lips that double as pillows, cheeks filled and eyes pulled back to slightly obscure the sight of someone "lower class", Botox over-injected to reduce expression of disgust with yourself, your spouse and your children who were brought up by an illegal immigrant that you then tried to have deported so you didn't have to pay them.
And all this plastic surgery is used to change other features that are traditionally unattractive, like age lines, big noses, etc. It doesn't mean the alternative is necessarily more attractive.
My theory is that contemporary high heels are an extension of the innate need for the patriarchy to hobble women and how “not being able to escape” is eroticized.
The puts me in mind of an image I haven’t forgotten in 25 years. On 9/11 at the FBI building. When the plane hit the Pentagon, people evacuated govt buildings, including the FBI building in D.C.
People were so panicked, the women ran right out of their shoes. The FBI lobby littered with scattered shoes, mostly high heels.
They are as they ever were a symbol of class and wealth “look at me I don’t have to wear practical shoes” and make women feel taller, same as having long nails and pale skin is symbolic of not having to work in the fields where digging in the dirt breaks long nails and a tan means you work outside.
This take reminds me of a study I did while working toward my anthro degree. The premise was that model poses that show up on the pages of fashion magazines are, very often, stylistically reminiscent of injury. If you remove any context indicators the body orientation expressed is similar to what you might find in crime scene photos. Once you realize this, it’s hard to not see victims in every ad.
Intriguingly, the standard remained the same when Marc Jacobs began introducing slightly masculine-presenting and gender-ambiguous models in women’s clothing, roughly 15 years ago. It was definitely supporting evidence that “weak” and “broken” are the hallmark of preferred female gender expression for the mainstream beauty industry.
High heels actually started as men's shoes. They were originally cavalry shoes with a heel that locked on the stirrup. Men started wearing them for fashion and to make themselves taller.
It’s like this weird desperation to flaunt the fact they have too much money to the point they go out of the way to look inhuman as a facet of that flaunt
They want to be seen as superhuman - to the point they just straight up look mutated
Seems to be a trend of rich men having botched schlong jobs too. Money cannot buy you everything it seems. In fact, it’s ruinous in some cases
Their skin is probably itchy from being near whatever fertilizer trump has on his face, and they need the surgery to stop it from burning their own faces off
It’s become a status symbol. It’s about showing off that you’re rich and can afford surgery, so subtlety and natural looks is no longer the goal. It’s the same aesthetic as gangster rappers with ridiculously large gold chains and diamonds in their teeth basically.
Its because it shows you are a VIP to have such an extreme makeover. It let's the world know you are connected and are more important. Only losers and the poor dont have thst look. Beingnostentasiously hideous after plastic surgery is the goal.
People want to look like people in power. If people in power are getting horrible plastic surgery, plebs are going to try to emulate that by getting their own.
Just look at some of the ugly fashion trends worn by celebs that suddenly people say look good.
It’s like modern day foot binding. Women are destroying their bodies in the name of beauty. I understand that beauty is in the eye of the beholder but not once have I thought “you know who is beautiful? Jigsaw.”
Can be done as young as 3. That's what happened to my grandmother's (then-rich)grandma, she walked so slow for the rest of her life, helped by two maids
Can we use the same language that they use when referring to any gender-affirming operations for Trans people? For example,
"Women violently mutlilating their faces to fit into anti-woke agenda"
or, "These biological women are ripping off their faces and think that makes them pretty."
Or perhaps, "Why are we letting these people make permanent changes to their bodies that they might regret later? God did not make a mistake when he made their faces."
"Why are we letting these people make permanent changes to their bodies that they might regret later? God did not make a mistake when he made their faces."
This is the way; I plan to use this exact wording when needed, thanks.
These cultish conservative people have embraced looking deranged for a long time now. Look at all of those televangelists and their wives back in the 80's. Trump, in all actuality, resembles both the physical look and the personalities of those same fraudsters that have grifited the American people for decades now with false promises only in turn to rob them blind.
I can't imagine the depth of mental illness in these women that actually want to look like this. Kimberly has absolutely destroyed her face, and she looks hideous.
Mara-Lago Face, to me, is a face filled with hatred and malice. Absolutely disgusting.
Look, if they want gender affirming care, I'm not going to stop them as long as they aren't hurting anyone and a licensed doctor is doing the surgeries.
Why would any woman intentionally make herself look like Laura Loomer or Kim Guilfoyle?
They’re both flat-out scary-looking, like a hallowe’en blind date, except the mask won’t come off.
The fact that people want their face to resemble a prolapsed rectum permanently is staggering. Stick your head in a hornets nest for free to see what you’ll look like before paying.
It's like a Twilight Zone episode based on a Twilight Zone episode("Number 12 Looks Just Like You"), except instead of at least 12 looks, there's only one.
I hope this recent trend of body modification fuels a wave of pushback where we see people maintain their natural features instead of trying to look like a puffy Barbie doll.
I’m in the Midwest and we don’t see a lot of obvious plastic surgery. I saw one of these in real life a few weeks ago and almost fell out of my chair. Had to look away so she wouldn’t see my eyes and put a curse on me.
Man, I dunno why it is, but I really hate that rich people spend their money on the dumbest things.
like yeah sure it’s your money whatever, but like plastic surgery? Really? not like, a vacation to a waterpark? Or a cool shelf? Donation to a local library? Hire a puppet show?
None of that, just surgery that’s gonna look weird when you inevitably start aging into it.
like man if I were rich enough to afford elective cosmetic surgery I’d probably just hire a free puppet show at the library or buy a local school a pizza party, something cool and fun. Like going to see a volcano, that’d be cool.
“the Annies” (a puppet/song duet both named Annie) in Putnam VT had a great song called Puppets for the People
Lyrics 🎶🎵We’re PUPPETS!!! Puppets for the people! Yeah! Puppets! Now we are climbing up the steeple!!”
2 Great hippy type older women having kids sing and shout “puppets for the people” in a power to the people way.
Don’t think puppets are just for kids. There are a lot of political activist puppet troops out there like “Bread and Puppets” (also based in Vermont) They have been doing world tours and have been showing up at protests since the Vietnam war protests. When the Republican convention held in Philly in 2000, police swat teams raided the workshop, confiscated puppets, and arrested the puppeteers because they thought they were terrorists (they had joking called themselves puppetistas as a play on the Zapatista’s ) yep, the police and GOP were threatened by puppets!!
Leading to me favorite comment about the incident “when puppets are outlawed, only outlaws will have puppets”
You have got to watch the 1997 Horror/Fantasy movie “The Devil’s Advocate” starring Al Pacino, Keenu Reeves and Charlize Theron. You will look at this administration and see the amazing resemblance. It is movie predicting reality at its best. Trust me on this one!
Whenever I see a picture of someone with that type of plastic surgery, I expect their voice to sound like a 2x throat cancer survivor, pack-a-day smoker
This is the height of cult behavior. Getting your face slashed, and reconfigured, just so you can look ridiculously ugly? And risking a completely unnecessary operation, which will not improve with age? Pure insanity. I guess it reflects the mystery of how anyone could imagine trump is not hideously ugly...
The notion that this is a "polished" look is laughable. There was a British comedy show in the 1980s called Spitting Image that featured life-sized puppets that were parodies of politicians and celebrities, and they looked exactly like the cult of Mar-A-Lago.
I get the feeling there’s going to be a LOT of “buyers’ remorse” about 4-5 years from now, either because no one wants to be associated with MaL anymore, or because they’re devolving into Loomer-lookalikes.
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Does he say why women want to disfigure themselves, or can we assume these women support this farce of an admin because they hate themselves as much as MAGA does?
The ruling and aristocrat class has traditionally had their own version of beauty... Just look at civilizations across history. Doesn't mean it's attractive or a reflection of the rest of society...
Almost all of those fashion and beauty trends were some way or another of flaunting wealth and/or leisure time in the faces of those they deemed less than. The “Mar A Lago face” is right up there, showing they have the money to get these procedures that fundamentally separate them from the commoners by virtue of their appearance
"virtue of their appearance." hahahaha. Right. They can go right on looking like a Cabbage Patch doll that got a little too close to the space heater.
Is it really that expensive, though? Seriously asking because I have no idea, I just know I know some women who are not fabulously wealthy who have gotten at least some of that type of work done.
A deep plane face lift, such as Kris Jenner had can cost over $100k with the right surgeon. Though she did have better more realistic work done. But just getting your hair cut and colored, nails, spray tan, hair removal done can cost $1000 a month or more depending where you go and that's before extensions or wigs. Ozempic shots aren't cheap. Of course that's before surgeries. On the plus side despite their money they all seem to wear outfits from Shien so that's easy for the poors to copy.
I can say the pictures online... I would never have guessed a deep plane face lift was part of the "Ma-a-lago" look. I think that's the only one that really surprised me (and yeah, I would have never have guessed it'd be that much. But reading about what it is... I can actually understand wanting a good surgeon for it.)
Kris Jenner spent $1M on her latest surgery!
Noem looks like she went to a dollar store surgeon fr.
Uno Peso Tienda face-lift, fr. 🤣😂
And out of all of them we look back through history and wonder why the fuck people dressed up to look bat shit crazy.. people of now and the future will look back in horror at the mar a lago faced monsters of the time.
this is fictional, but the ruling elite of the Orokin Empire from the videogame Warframe had themselves genetically or surgically altered to have shades of skin that are more blue, gray or slightly green etc, or also having one of their arms heavily extended to basically be able to reach close to their feet, seemingly all in an effort to showcase themselves as being separate from the regular population and as the "gods" they represented themselves to be by not looking "mortal"
Maybe they have so much money they get a body double and the body double gets the surgeries. Meanwhile the rich person ages normally and no one recognizes them so they aren’t harassed. Sorry, it’s early and I’m high.
Is it because they are in their own bubble, away from us "peasants"?
Bruv, then why the fuck are we stuck with the dumbest/boring looking one? Fuck it, bring back white painted faces with Kohl eyeliners, black teeth, and foot binding for aristocrats. I need to see Bezos covered in white paint with powedered wig goddammit.
At the very least go for the crazy city looks in the Hunger Games.
21st century US: injected lips that double as pillows, cheeks filled and eyes pulled back to slightly obscure the sight of someone "lower class", Botox over-injected to reduce expression of disgust with yourself, your spouse and your children who were brought up by an illegal immigrant that you then tried to have deported so you didn't have to pay them.
LOL Patches were used to cover smallpox or syphilis sores & scars.
And all this plastic surgery is used to change other features that are traditionally unattractive, like age lines, big noses, etc. It doesn't mean the alternative is necessarily more attractive.
That foot binding shit is sooo fucking horrific and weird, people willingly mutilating themselves to have little pig trotters.
I don't think it was "willing". It was something done to little girls who had absolutely no say in the matter.
Foot binding began at early childhood. There was no choice for the women who this was done to.
Foot binding, for the very young children it was done to, was about as "willing" a practice as breast ironing and FGM.
There are countless "cultural" child mutilation practices that make absolutely zero sense in any framing other than oppressive patriarchy.
My theory is that contemporary high heels are an extension of the innate need for the patriarchy to hobble women and how “not being able to escape” is eroticized.
The puts me in mind of an image I haven’t forgotten in 25 years. On 9/11 at the FBI building. When the plane hit the Pentagon, people evacuated govt buildings, including the FBI building in D.C.
People were so panicked, the women ran right out of their shoes. The FBI lobby littered with scattered shoes, mostly high heels.
They are as they ever were a symbol of class and wealth “look at me I don’t have to wear practical shoes” and make women feel taller, same as having long nails and pale skin is symbolic of not having to work in the fields where digging in the dirt breaks long nails and a tan means you work outside.
This take reminds me of a study I did while working toward my anthro degree. The premise was that model poses that show up on the pages of fashion magazines are, very often, stylistically reminiscent of injury. If you remove any context indicators the body orientation expressed is similar to what you might find in crime scene photos. Once you realize this, it’s hard to not see victims in every ad.
Intriguingly, the standard remained the same when Marc Jacobs began introducing slightly masculine-presenting and gender-ambiguous models in women’s clothing, roughly 15 years ago. It was definitely supporting evidence that “weak” and “broken” are the hallmark of preferred female gender expression for the mainstream beauty industry.
High heels actually started as men's shoes. They were originally cavalry shoes with a heel that locked on the stirrup. Men started wearing them for fashion and to make themselves taller.
A great fitting pair of heels can not only be easy to walk in but double as a great weapon. A baddie that can kick? Yes, Queen!
Guess it’s better than mutilating ones face
Egypt probably had the least worst looking.
It’s like this weird desperation to flaunt the fact they have too much money to the point they go out of the way to look inhuman as a facet of that flaunt
They want to be seen as superhuman - to the point they just straight up look mutated
Seems to be a trend of rich men having botched schlong jobs too. Money cannot buy you everything it seems. In fact, it’s ruinous in some cases
Fascinating.
I would’ve been handsome in renaissance Italy
Arsenic to bleach skin during the white powder phase. Don't forget arsenic cosmetics, one of my favorite fashion statements, lol.
Romans meticulously plucking every individual hair but their eyebrows and head.
Headbinding in Native Mesoamerica, Antiquity Germanics, and Steppe tribes
Pants
Once MAGA starts dying off, these women are REALLY going to hate themselves and their faces.
This look is objectively horrible.
It's just so freaking ugly! I find them really hard to look at. So gross looking.
They don’t feel secure in their own skin that God gave them. So they decide to change themselves to feel better.
Fuck trans people tho amirite?
Gender affirming care for me, but not for thee!
Excellent point.
Their skin is probably itchy from being near whatever fertilizer trump has on his face, and they need the surgery to stop it from burning their own faces off
It’s become a status symbol. It’s about showing off that you’re rich and can afford surgery, so subtlety and natural looks is no longer the goal. It’s the same aesthetic as gangster rappers with ridiculously large gold chains and diamonds in their teeth basically.
They just want the outside to finally match the inside
Its because it shows you are a VIP to have such an extreme makeover. It let's the world know you are connected and are more important. Only losers and the poor dont have thst look. Beingnostentasiously hideous after plastic surgery is the goal.
People want to look like people in power. If people in power are getting horrible plastic surgery, plebs are going to try to emulate that by getting their own.
Just look at some of the ugly fashion trends worn by celebs that suddenly people say look good.
Is it not considered gender affirming surgery?
More like plunder affirming surgery.
It’s like modern day foot binding. Women are destroying their bodies in the name of beauty. I understand that beauty is in the eye of the beholder but not once have I thought “you know who is beautiful? Jigsaw.”
Except for these women are choosing body modification. The little girls (age 5 or so) in China who had their feet bound had no choice in the matter.
You’re right. It’s not a perfect 1-to-1.
Can be done as young as 3. That's what happened to my grandmother's (then-rich)grandma, she walked so slow for the rest of her life, helped by two maids
Wasn’t that practice ended like 75 years ago?
Can we use the same language that they use when referring to any gender-affirming operations for Trans people? For example,
"Women violently mutlilating their faces to fit into anti-woke agenda"
or, "These biological women are ripping off their faces and think that makes them pretty."
Or perhaps, "Why are we letting these people make permanent changes to their bodies that they might regret later? God did not make a mistake when he made their faces."
"Why are we letting these people make permanent changes to their bodies that they might regret later? God did not make a mistake when he made their faces."
This is the way; I plan to use this exact wording when needed, thanks.
Mothers are dropping off their children to school and then picking up plastic dolls with plumped up lips and scary cheekbones./s
Brilliant 👏🏾
I usually make reference to how they got gender affirming care. The magahats taking testosterone love that!
These cultish conservative people have embraced looking deranged for a long time now. Look at all of those televangelists and their wives back in the 80's. Trump, in all actuality, resembles both the physical look and the personalities of those same fraudsters that have grifited the American people for decades now with false promises only in turn to rob them blind.
I honestly think they're hoping that when judgement day comes, their assessor doesn't recognize them.
Yet another magical loop hole!
I can't imagine the depth of mental illness in these women that actually want to look like this. Kimberly has absolutely destroyed her face, and she looks hideous.
Mara-Lago Face, to me, is a face filled with hatred and malice. Absolutely disgusting.
Look, if they want gender affirming care, I'm not going to stop them as long as they aren't hurting anyone and a licensed doctor is doing the surgeries.
See how easy that was?
Cool cool. So, what gender are they affirming? None of the women I know look like that. Men, neither.
Could there be more than two genders? 🤔
EDIT: ‘cause I don’t proofread
There are some women who want to look like that.
Given the "anti-woke" sentiment that people like that express, one would think that they are women wanting to affirm themselves as women.
Yes!! They are called drag queens!!
Why would any woman intentionally make herself look like Laura Loomer or Kim Guilfoyle?
They’re both flat-out scary-looking, like a hallowe’en blind date, except the mask won’t come off.
The fact that people want their face to resemble a prolapsed rectum permanently is staggering. Stick your head in a hornets nest for free to see what you’ll look like before paying.
Big plastic surgery hates this one simple trick
It's like a Twilight Zone episode based on a Twilight Zone episode("Number 12 Looks Just Like You"), except instead of at least 12 looks, there's only one.
Trumpford Wives?
I remember seeing that episode.
I’m okay with this. Let these ghouls piss away their money to basically advertise like a giant billboard how fucking horrible they are.
I hope this recent trend of body modification fuels a wave of pushback where we see people maintain their natural features instead of trying to look like a puffy Barbie doll.
I’m in the Midwest and we don’t see a lot of obvious plastic surgery. I saw one of these in real life a few weeks ago and almost fell out of my chair. Had to look away so she wouldn’t see my eyes and put a curse on me.
Man, I dunno why it is, but I really hate that rich people spend their money on the dumbest things.
like yeah sure it’s your money whatever, but like plastic surgery? Really? not like, a vacation to a waterpark? Or a cool shelf? Donation to a local library? Hire a puppet show?
None of that, just surgery that’s gonna look weird when you inevitably start aging into it.
like man if I were rich enough to afford elective cosmetic surgery I’d probably just hire a free puppet show at the library or buy a local school a pizza party, something cool and fun. Like going to see a volcano, that’d be cool.
Whatever.
I hope you get rich. The world would be a better place.
“the Annies” (a puppet/song duet both named Annie) in Putnam VT had a great song called Puppets for the People
Lyrics 🎶🎵We’re PUPPETS!!! Puppets for the people! Yeah! Puppets! Now we are climbing up the steeple!!”
2 Great hippy type older women having kids sing and shout “puppets for the people” in a power to the people way.
Don’t think puppets are just for kids. There are a lot of political activist puppet troops out there like “Bread and Puppets” (also based in Vermont) They have been doing world tours and have been showing up at protests since the Vietnam war protests. When the Republican convention held in Philly in 2000, police swat teams raided the workshop, confiscated puppets, and arrested the puppeteers because they thought they were terrorists (they had joking called themselves puppetistas as a play on the Zapatista’s ) yep, the police and GOP were threatened by puppets!!
Leading to me favorite comment about the incident “when puppets are outlawed, only outlaws will have puppets”
made me think of this:
The Reverend: Evil League of Evil application
From what I can tell it's just a LV bag for the face. It's not about having a nice face it's looking like you have money to spend on your face.
Hideous. I don’t know how perfectly good looking women can see themselves after the mutilation and think it’s an improvement.
I just don’t get it. It’s like talking to someone wearing a frog mask.
You have got to watch the 1997 Horror/Fantasy movie “The Devil’s Advocate” starring Al Pacino, Keenu Reeves and Charlize Theron. You will look at this administration and see the amazing resemblance. It is movie predicting reality at its best. Trust me on this one!
I have to see a surgeon tomorrow regarding getting a melanoma tumor removed. Hopefully I don't walk out looking like her.
Whenever I see a picture of someone with that type of plastic surgery, I expect their voice to sound like a 2x throat cancer survivor, pack-a-day smoker
This is the height of cult behavior. Getting your face slashed, and reconfigured, just so you can look ridiculously ugly? And risking a completely unnecessary operation, which will not improve with age? Pure insanity. I guess it reflects the mystery of how anyone could imagine trump is not hideously ugly...
I’m in South Florida, but thankfully, unlike the Agama and Iguanas, this type of invasive lizard hasn’t made it this far north.
The notion that this is a "polished" look is laughable. There was a British comedy show in the 1980s called Spitting Image that featured life-sized puppets that were parodies of politicians and celebrities, and they looked exactly like the cult of Mar-A-Lago.
I get the feeling there’s going to be a LOT of “buyers’ remorse” about 4-5 years from now, either because no one wants to be associated with MaL anymore, or because they’re devolving into Loomer-lookalikes.