This isn't a face palm. A facepalm is a reaction to something stupid or absurd, which results in you hanging your head and cradling your forehead with your palm.
Ye is wrong here but not for the reason you describe. The second-person nominative pronoun "ye" does in fact exist and is a real word, but the correct case here is accusative and therefore should be "you". You have confused the pronoun "ye" with the article "þe" which was often typeset as "ye". They are different words.
As a person who got himself a BA in English Lit, I have to say there is a stark difference in the direction of western culture when school systems stopped teaching rhetoric.
We did a little writing in the advanced and AP classes in my Jr. High and High School, and it was great that we got to spend about eighteen years of our lives getting an education, but hardly any of us could hold a debate except for the eight kids in the debate club.
In ye old days, kids were learning about fallacies and diction at what we would call the elementary school level and putting it to use on the street. Of course by "kids" I mean mostly boys from wealthy families and even for the well-to-do then education didn't go on as long.
One thing I think would really help is if we would re-introduce Latin at the first-grade level. Not that every English-speaking child should also be fluent in Latin, but at least familiar enough to discern roots, suffixes, and prefixes then ascertain the meaning of new words accordingly.
A little etymology goes a long way. People need to know where the words they speak come from, how they've changed, and what psychological impact they are having when they speak, hear, or see them.
One thing I think would really help is if we would re-introduce Latin at the first-grade level
So I have some first-hand experience with this. I grew up in a place that didn't speak English as a first language so learned English the hard way i.e. with grammar books, vocabulary tables and rote learning. I ended up in a school where Latin was effectively compulsory (I took it for a year) but was far more literate than many of my native English peers, even some who had studied Latin for years by the time I showed up. It turns out that they don't connect the grammar rules they learn in Latin/any other foreign language to English. Maybe that's because native English speakers often aren't explicitly taught prescriptive grammar rules these days, but I've always found it interesting that they still make mistakes like "would of" when they would never make the same error in a foreign language with the same construction.
But yes I agree, English speaking countries need to get back to teaching grammar, literacy and rhetoric. Contrast with e.g. Chinese education, where kids will be analysing 8th century Chinese poetry and 14th century prose in primary school or early secondary school. There's a lot of nuance that makes it not a very fair comparison but the point still stands. The average educated Chinese person will have a far greater grasp on their culture's literature than the average Briton or American.
I don't know why you're at zero thumbs up, given that it is exactly as you say, a literal face-palm.
I thought it was clever, anyway. :P We don't get to see that tag very often, accurately.
And great song too, so thanks for that ^_^
I think the title is misleading. Thanks to your comment for clearing it up!
I think it is because they had to sit too long for the punchline.
Ha, ha.
This isn't a face palm. A facepalm is a reaction to something stupid or absurd, which results in you hanging your head and cradling your forehead with your palm.
It's got face, it's got palm, and they connect plenty. Checks out in my books.
Ye, is pronounced: the. An obsolete letter that looked a lot like a Y, represented the TH sound. So it's: God rest the merry Gentlemen.
Ye is wrong here but not for the reason you describe. The second-person nominative pronoun "ye" does in fact exist and is a real word, but the correct case here is accusative and therefore should be "you". You have confused the pronoun "ye" with the article "þe" which was often typeset as "ye". They are different words.
Thank you for chiming in with this!
I've been correcting that misconception a lot over the past few days. It's prevalent enough that I might end up making a video about it.
Bring back early modern English literacy!
I will settle for improved literacy skills in general lol
As a person who got himself a BA in English Lit, I have to say there is a stark difference in the direction of western culture when school systems stopped teaching rhetoric.
We did a little writing in the advanced and AP classes in my Jr. High and High School, and it was great that we got to spend about eighteen years of our lives getting an education, but hardly any of us could hold a debate except for the eight kids in the debate club.
In ye old days, kids were learning about fallacies and diction at what we would call the elementary school level and putting it to use on the street. Of course by "kids" I mean mostly boys from wealthy families and even for the well-to-do then education didn't go on as long.
One thing I think would really help is if we would re-introduce Latin at the first-grade level. Not that every English-speaking child should also be fluent in Latin, but at least familiar enough to discern roots, suffixes, and prefixes then ascertain the meaning of new words accordingly.
A little etymology goes a long way. People need to know where the words they speak come from, how they've changed, and what psychological impact they are having when they speak, hear, or see them.
So I have some first-hand experience with this. I grew up in a place that didn't speak English as a first language so learned English the hard way i.e. with grammar books, vocabulary tables and rote learning. I ended up in a school where Latin was effectively compulsory (I took it for a year) but was far more literate than many of my native English peers, even some who had studied Latin for years by the time I showed up. It turns out that they don't connect the grammar rules they learn in Latin/any other foreign language to English. Maybe that's because native English speakers often aren't explicitly taught prescriptive grammar rules these days, but I've always found it interesting that they still make mistakes like "would of" when they would never make the same error in a foreign language with the same construction.
But yes I agree, English speaking countries need to get back to teaching grammar, literacy and rhetoric. Contrast with e.g. Chinese education, where kids will be analysing 8th century Chinese poetry and 14th century prose in primary school or early secondary school. There's a lot of nuance that makes it not a very fair comparison but the point still stands. The average educated Chinese person will have a far greater grasp on their culture's literature than the average Briton or American.
Yeet.
Oh you better not be a member of Shocker!