They can’t because of double jeopardy unfortunately. I heard the judge retiring is fake news. We need to keep the pressure on. Everyone who was involved in this decision needs to be heavily scrutinized and ideally disbarred. Hell they should be jailed but I’d settle for disbarred and disgraced.
Fun Fact about the Fifth Amendment! It says (relevant part only) “nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb”. So technically, you can be tried for the same offence more than once. You just can’t receive the death penalty as the sentence for it. Or, loss of extremities. But I don’t think imprisonment would qualify as putting limb in jeopardy, so yeah. 👍
Hey, if we don't have to follow that pesky due process claim, and we are now debating the constitution's birthright text, I am fully for trying this piece of shit again.
"He was convicted of 11 charges in total, 10 of which were related to rape. Those charges include domestic assault, battery by strangulation, rape by instrumentation and violating a protection order."
The only punishment that should be applicable to a rapist is a lead pill to the cranium. Castration doesn't prevent it from committing most of the crimes that the one we're talking about here has been charged with. The only way to ensure a rapist never rapes again is getting rid of the pest. While i understand the need to punish it and inflict pain upon it, it brings no consolation nor positive input into the case.
No, rapists should get life sentences and mixed into high sec population or death row for the entirety.
Death is far too merciful, and there's a reason why society allows rapists to continuously get a taste of their own medicine in those settings.
The thing about death is, most of it is quick. Even with injections it's a few mins of hell and it's over. A life sentence in that environment is a life sentence to hell.
If you rape someone - especially a child - you took whatever life that they had from them. The life they get after will never be the same. They will be traumatized, and the lucky ones will get to heal, while most won't. Most will fall into worse patterns, nearly every person in America sitting in a drug rehabilitation facility or 12 step program was the victim of some form of SA as a youth.
Rapists take lives, they should have their lives taken from them too. Do you believe in hell? Bc I don't, and I'd like to make sure those people do. I'm not ruling the dice on divine justice, I'm* putting them on the scales.
Edit: autocorrect really did a number on me here 😮💨 I swear every once in awhile it bugs out and forgets grammar entirely.
This image isn’t even exposing the worst shit. He choked the girls on video, one so hard she was in the hospital for a long ass time getting her throat reconstructed and was dead for 30 seconds. He will absolutely rape and murder again. Especially to avoid getting caught.
He didn't just assault the girls; he injured one so badly that she needed immediate surgery.
Also, he did this at home, with his parents there. At one point, one of the girls was screaming, and his mom knocked on the door to see if everything was okay, and he told her to go away.
I can't find a source for the mom knowing, but I kept hearing about it when this story first broke. Maybe that's not true. But one victim did need surgery.
Oh I read about how he choked her so bad she was actually “lucky to be alive” and I saw the video where the mom told him to “just relax and pray” like all he did was steal a bike or something she had zero concern or worry… the ONLY silver lining is that he’ll forever be on the offender’s list
Minors can absolutely be on the offender’s list and he was 17- hardly considered a “minor” and when it comes to extremely violent crimes such as aggravated raped and aggravated assault, attempted murder etc. (Which he did all three) the actual “age to be charged as a minor” is usually 13 and below, 14 and above can be more easily charged as adults. I could be wrong but I believe he was originally being charged as an adult, but then the court “status changed to minor” probably due to a plea deal….
He also pleaded no contest which means he’s not “not guilty” and took instead a plea deal where he pleads no contest to avoid court, and is still convicted of the (more commonly) lesser charges than the ones he was charged with.
He pleaded no contest to: “sexual assault, strangulation and domestic abuse in connection to the rape of two female teenagers” and avoided prison- which is NOT the same as being found “not guilty”. Therefore I definitely believe he will absolutely need to be on the registry although I would need to search that up to be sure.
What I heard is that they changed the charges from adult to youthful offender. That makes it sound like he stole a candy bar from the 7-11. He better be on a list.
Yeah his “status changed” because of his dad’s connections to idk what but he pleaded no contest which doesn’t mean he didn’t do it, and idk the details but he likely is on a list. What an evil fucking literal psychopath and that boy mom also deserves jail time for how she’s coddling her “baby boy” who just happens to be a literal fucking psychopath.
It means you’re not going to admit wrong doing but also not going to fight the charges against you (usually because there’s enough evidence to charge you but “might be a lengthy trial” so prosecutors offer a plea deal where they lessen the charges and you agree to “accept them without admitting guilt”).
Yeah his mom literally heard them. Knocked on the door and he said everything was fine so she shrugged and walked away. As the girl screamed in terror and pain and was strangled near to death.
Butler, who was age 16 and 17 at the time of the offenses, was previously denied a request to be charged as a juvenile. But during a July 24 hearing, his status was changed to youthful offender, granting him the chance for rehabilitation and less severe punishment than what an adult would receive.
He got treated as a minor by the judge, reducing his punishment
There's literally no way a 14 year old black kid accused of the same wouldn't be tried as an adult and have the book thrown at them. It's absolutely astonishing what being rich and white will let you get away with in the US.
Nah being rich, having friends in high places and being a nepo baby has everything to do with it. You keep believing in that fear mongering propaganda your government wants you to believe so you can continue your sheeple ways…
Nah being rich, having friends in high places and being a nepo baby has everything to do with it.
Well geez, when you lay it all out like that... Why would anyone assume that the individual you're describing is white? POC teenagers are always being rich, having friends in high places and receiving outsize support from their extremely wealthy and extremely influential families. Right?
Banana Republic…. Where rules are enforced differently based on skin color, bank account status, and hell even societal status. The system is so uneven and unproductive, cases take months if not years. It’s a broken system and it’s not a blue vs red issue. System is broken everywhere… all the way up to Scotus and the federal government where the inmates are running the asylum now.
Rules are only enforced if you politically disagree or don’t have the means to defend yourself(money, lawyers etc.). See how many pardons being done? You could kill somebody or commit crazy fraud, but nah you suck off the executive branch and promise them something, sheit you getting that pardon baby
I hope so. Otherwise the next time he does this (and make no mistake, there WILL be a next time), his new prison neighbors will have to take care of it instead. Even if he gets a ridiculously light sentence, I hear people in prisons really hate rapists. Of course, this assumes he’ll get a less sympathetic judge next time.
Sorry, who is this story about? Is it rapist Jesse Mack Butler?
I get so confused because when I think about rapists I also think about the rapist Brock Allen Turner who is now know as rapist Allen Turner - but I guess I should now also remember rapist Jesse Mack Butler, who is a rapist.
Let this case and many many MANY like it come to your mind whenever a case against female perpetrators comes up. Because way too many times I see comments like “If the roles were reversed, it would be taken seriously.” No it wouldn’t. It certainly wouldn’t.
We have a culture of rape apology. Victims get more blame than rapists. And they are held more accountable for the aftermath than their rapists are. You can rape multiple people and face less time than if you were caught with drugs on you. Think about that. It’s…ow. 🙁
It's interesting how the term teen is used. Seems like the time to use the word "thug". Poor parenting if you can call it that. This predator should volunteer to serve time
So what im hearing is, if im assaulted i better make sure that my self defense method is full proof because the courts aint gonna do shit to protect me. Got it.
He was in imminent unavoidable threat of death and serious bodily harm.
Now you can have you convictions about whether it was good idea to be there in the first place but that is what the evidence shows and what the jury decided.
I think deliberately putting yourself in a situation where you are at risk of unavoidable threat of death and/or serious bodily harm should negate that as a defence, personally, especially if there's documented evidence of you talking about how much you want to shoot protesters beforehand.
Not to mention that the second guy he killed, and the guy he maimed, were reacting to a guy - from the opposite side to that of the protesters - who'd just shot an unarmed man dead on the street by trying to subdue him; even if we want to argue that the first guy he shot was justified I don't think the second two were.
It's plausible that he panicked in the moment, because he was a stupid fucking kid who'd gotten himself in way over his head, but the eagerness to kill protesters he'd openly displayed previously makes it very hard to argue that there wasn't an element of, if not premeditation, then awareness that killing someone might be a distinct and possible outcome of his actions that night.
It would be like me walking out into the middle of a busy intersection, having expressed a hatred and desire to kill people who drive cars, then opening fire on and killing the driver of the first car coming directly at me because there was an imminent and unavoidable threat of death or serious harm. I chose to walk out into the middle of the street; the fault should be mine.
First off, judges should be checked out before they are assigned a case. Second, judges should be held accountable. Third, if prosecutors don’t let victims know what plea deals are, it should be noted they are on the take. Finally this is a travesty of justice.
I would say one example would be when that 10-year-old girl was all over the news because she was raped by an adult and got pregnant and because of new bans in her state she had to travel to get the care she needed. A raped 10 year old where the laws voted in by conservatives would have meant that she would have been forced to give birth. Not every 10-year-old would come from a family that can afford to travel
Oh this is gonna be good. When another rapist just goes and rapes a girl in Oklahoma they can just cite this case as a precedence. Jesse can rape people and get off with some community service? If he can, then so can I.
On the plus side, everyone knows what he looks like, what his name is, and where he lives. He should have people "keep their community safe" with him around.
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This is very concerning, but as I was reading up on the matter, the judge has been kicked out!
What the hell is wrong with Judges?! Glad she's out!
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So did she retire or was she actually stripped of judicial power? There aren't really any news articles about it.
Now they need to redo his trial, and trial him as an adult now.
They can’t because of double jeopardy unfortunately. I heard the judge retiring is fake news. We need to keep the pressure on. Everyone who was involved in this decision needs to be heavily scrutinized and ideally disbarred. Hell they should be jailed but I’d settle for disbarred and disgraced.
Fun Fact about the Fifth Amendment! It says (relevant part only) “nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb”. So technically, you can be tried for the same offence more than once. You just can’t receive the death penalty as the sentence for it. Or, loss of extremities. But I don’t think imprisonment would qualify as putting limb in jeopardy, so yeah. 👍
That is not what that means at all, so I hope you’re just making a joke
Hey, if we don't have to follow that pesky due process claim, and we are now debating the constitution's birthright text, I am fully for trying this piece of shit again.
I'd rather not lend legitimacy to behavior like that tbh
at the very least, there should be a rape/pedophilia exception.
This POS is absolutely going to do this again. They gave a free pass to someone who already thinks they’re above everyone.
Serial killer in the making.
Good job, Oklahoma. 🤬
This just teaches him he needs to hide it better, make sure no one talks after. Spot on with serial killer in the making
Fucking sick
"He was convicted of 11 charges in total, 10 of which were related to rape. Those charges include domestic assault, battery by strangulation, rape by instrumentation and violating a protection order."
https://www.kgns.tv/2025/11/09/protests-erupt-after-18-year-old-convicted-rape-related-charges-faces-no-jail-time/
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The only punishment that should be applicable to a rapist is a lead pill to the cranium. Castration doesn't prevent it from committing most of the crimes that the one we're talking about here has been charged with. The only way to ensure a rapist never rapes again is getting rid of the pest. While i understand the need to punish it and inflict pain upon it, it brings no consolation nor positive input into the case.
Yeah chemical castration isn’t removing his desire to choke women to death.
agreed, because its clear he's going to do it again, so it's better to put him down like the monster he is
I’m like the use of “it” better
Better to put it down
“He” implies it’s a being of sorts
That thing doesn’t deserve a heartbeat let alone personhood
No, rapists should get life sentences and mixed into high sec population or death row for the entirety.
Death is far too merciful, and there's a reason why society allows rapists to continuously get a taste of their own medicine in those settings.
The thing about death is, most of it is quick. Even with injections it's a few mins of hell and it's over. A life sentence in that environment is a life sentence to hell.
If you rape someone - especially a child - you took whatever life that they had from them. The life they get after will never be the same. They will be traumatized, and the lucky ones will get to heal, while most won't. Most will fall into worse patterns, nearly every person in America sitting in a drug rehabilitation facility or 12 step program was the victim of some form of SA as a youth.
Rapists take lives, they should have their lives taken from them too. Do you believe in hell? Bc I don't, and I'd like to make sure those people do. I'm not ruling the dice on divine justice, I'm* putting them on the scales.
Edit: autocorrect really did a number on me here 😮💨 I swear every once in awhile it bugs out and forgets grammar entirely.
Good ol' Chippy
This image isn’t even exposing the worst shit. He choked the girls on video, one so hard she was in the hospital for a long ass time getting her throat reconstructed and was dead for 30 seconds. He will absolutely rape and murder again. Especially to avoid getting caught.
He didn't just assault the girls; he injured one so badly that she needed immediate surgery.
Also, he did this at home, with his parents there. At one point, one of the girls was screaming, and his mom knocked on the door to see if everything was okay, and he told her to go away.
WHAT THE FUCK???!
Source????
I can't find a source for the mom knowing, but I kept hearing about it when this story first broke. Maybe that's not true. But one victim did need surgery.
Oh I read about how he choked her so bad she was actually “lucky to be alive” and I saw the video where the mom told him to “just relax and pray” like all he did was steal a bike or something she had zero concern or worry… the ONLY silver lining is that he’ll forever be on the offender’s list
He won't be on any lists. He's a minor.
Minors can absolutely be on the offender’s list and he was 17- hardly considered a “minor” and when it comes to extremely violent crimes such as aggravated raped and aggravated assault, attempted murder etc. (Which he did all three) the actual “age to be charged as a minor” is usually 13 and below, 14 and above can be more easily charged as adults. I could be wrong but I believe he was originally being charged as an adult, but then the court “status changed to minor” probably due to a plea deal….
He also pleaded no contest which means he’s not “not guilty” and took instead a plea deal where he pleads no contest to avoid court, and is still convicted of the (more commonly) lesser charges than the ones he was charged with.
He pleaded no contest to: “sexual assault, strangulation and domestic abuse in connection to the rape of two female teenagers” and avoided prison- which is NOT the same as being found “not guilty”. Therefore I definitely believe he will absolutely need to be on the registry although I would need to search that up to be sure.
What I heard is that they changed the charges from adult to youthful offender. That makes it sound like he stole a candy bar from the 7-11. He better be on a list.
Yeah his “status changed” because of his dad’s connections to idk what but he pleaded no contest which doesn’t mean he didn’t do it, and idk the details but he likely is on a list. What an evil fucking literal psychopath and that boy mom also deserves jail time for how she’s coddling her “baby boy” who just happens to be a literal fucking psychopath.
Is "no contest" like an Alford plea, where you don't admit guilt, but admit they have enough evidence to convict you? I think that's what it is.
It means you’re not going to admit wrong doing but also not going to fight the charges against you (usually because there’s enough evidence to charge you but “might be a lengthy trial” so prosecutors offer a plea deal where they lessen the charges and you agree to “accept them without admitting guilt”).
His dad is a coach for some university or something, I heard. 🤬
The article says he won't be on the list.
I didn’t see that anywhere and I read the article, can you point to where it is? Idk how I missed it
We can make him as famous as Allen Turner, aka Brock Turner aka Brock Allen Turner.
Learn the name and say it often. Jesse Mack Butler from Oklahoma.
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Yeah his mom literally heard them. Knocked on the door and he said everything was fine so she shrugged and walked away. As the girl screamed in terror and pain and was strangled near to death.
150 hours of community service
who the fuck wants this psychopath doing anything out in the community? he should be rotting away in prison- he’s definitely gonna do this again.
What the fuck is going on in the US
He got treated as a minor by the judge, reducing his punishment
This is an issue with the laws IMO
Affluenza and Bribery, 2 things that can make any criminal walk free and have someone else take their place if they're too poor.
Don't forget white male privilege. A POC would almost never get the treatment we constantly see white men receive in the legal system.
It’s “Rich Privilege”
There's literally no way a 14 year old black kid accused of the same wouldn't be tried as an adult and have the book thrown at them. It's absolutely astonishing what being rich and white will let you get away with in the US.
Being white has nothing to do with it, keep race baiting and see where it gets you.
Apparently it gets people disagreeing with you 🤔
Incorrect. It has everything to do with it.
Nah being rich, having friends in high places and being a nepo baby has everything to do with it. You keep believing in that fear mongering propaganda your government wants you to believe so you can continue your sheeple ways…
Whatever, redhat. 🙄
I bet you fantasize about having a supreme overlord don’t you?
I do occasionally fantasize about my wife topping me, yeah.
I bet she'd be amused if I called her my supreme overlord.
Alright sheep
Well geez, when you lay it all out like that... Why would anyone assume that the individual you're describing is white? POC teenagers are always being rich, having friends in high places and receiving outsize support from their extremely wealthy and extremely influential families. Right?
https://youtube.com/shorts/n5rJ7sBCfV8?si=p1_VaDUZLMYQBcUh
He got treated as a minor because his father is an OU football coach.
OU again?!
Anything goes these days, and it’s unfortunate. Nobody is held accountable unless the big guy doesn’t like you
This has been a problem for decades. Even back when the big guy was still a D.
Same thing as every where else since the beginning of time? Rapists getting away with out punishment isn’t a new thing exclusively to the US.
Banana Republic…. Where rules are enforced differently based on skin color, bank account status, and hell even societal status. The system is so uneven and unproductive, cases take months if not years. It’s a broken system and it’s not a blue vs red issue. System is broken everywhere… all the way up to Scotus and the federal government where the inmates are running the asylum now.
Rules are only enforced if you politically disagree or don’t have the means to defend yourself(money, lawyers etc.). See how many pardons being done? You could kill somebody or commit crazy fraud, but nah you suck off the executive branch and promise them something, sheit you getting that pardon baby
Rapists run free while innocents get punished for it
The kinda thing that happens in Europe every day’s a
We've lost the reasonable middle.
Except there is no reasonable middle when dealing with rape. He should be buried under the prison
My older sister was raped. When I moved to college I started carrying a flip blade in my boot. I never had to use it, but I don’t regret carrying it.
Convicted rapist Jesse Mack Butler? The rapist who strangled a girl while his mother was in the house?
Convicted rapist Jesse Mack Butler who was protected by his father’s connections?
Street justice will solve it
I hope so. Otherwise the next time he does this (and make no mistake, there WILL be a next time), his new prison neighbors will have to take care of it instead. Even if he gets a ridiculously light sentence, I hear people in prisons really hate rapists. Of course, this assumes he’ll get a less sympathetic judge next time.
The rapist Brock Turner is living in constant fear and even changed his name. Maybe we can make this smug little bastard famous too
Is it Brock ALLEN Turner, the convicted rapist that you refer to?
Yes.
The rapist Brock Turner now goes by his middle name, the rapist Allen Turner.
The first thing I thought when I heard this story was,
"Hey, Brock Turner! Hold my beer ..."
Agreed.
It'll follow him forever.
His dad used to be connected to OSU's football program. He's pretty much untouchable.
And he clearly knows it. Next girl he rapes isnt going to survive it. This is just going to embolden him.
He will complete murdering the next one hoping to avoid getting caught. He came close multiple times already.
Yep, especially that one poor girl. From what I heard she was very close to death.
No one is untouchable
Time for him to go back to prison. Quickly.
Fuck rapist Jesse Mack Butler
Sorry, who is this story about? Is it rapist Jesse Mack Butler?
I get so confused because when I think about rapists I also think about the rapist Brock Allen Turner who is now know as rapist Allen Turner - but I guess I should now also remember rapist Jesse Mack Butler, who is a rapist.
Ohhh, it's Jesse Mack Butler who is a rapist. Maybe he and rapist Allen Turner can be roommates.
Let this case and many many MANY like it come to your mind whenever a case against female perpetrators comes up. Because way too many times I see comments like “If the roles were reversed, it would be taken seriously.” No it wouldn’t. It certainly wouldn’t.
We have a culture of rape apology. Victims get more blame than rapists. And they are held more accountable for the aftermath than their rapists are. You can rape multiple people and face less time than if you were caught with drugs on you. Think about that. It’s…ow. 🙁
A person will do more time for killing their rapist than they will for actually raping someone.
It's interesting how the term teen is used. Seems like the time to use the word "thug". Poor parenting if you can call it that. This predator should volunteer to serve time
so were gonna make sure to give him the brock turner treatment right?
The Brock Allen Turner treatment.
Jesse Mack Butler the rapist will now be subjected to the Brock Allen Turner the rapist treatment.
So what im hearing is, if im assaulted i better make sure that my self defense method is full proof because the courts aint gonna do shit to protect me. Got it.
Couldn’t be my family member… and get away Scott free
The new Kyle Rittenhouse is born!
This is like evil anti kyle rittenhouse
Kyle Rittenhouse is evil, though.
He was in imminent unavoidable threat of death and serious bodily harm.
Now you can have you convictions about whether it was good idea to be there in the first place but that is what the evidence shows and what the jury decided.
I think deliberately putting yourself in a situation where you are at risk of unavoidable threat of death and/or serious bodily harm should negate that as a defence, personally, especially if there's documented evidence of you talking about how much you want to shoot protesters beforehand.
Not to mention that the second guy he killed, and the guy he maimed, were reacting to a guy - from the opposite side to that of the protesters - who'd just shot an unarmed man dead on the street by trying to subdue him; even if we want to argue that the first guy he shot was justified I don't think the second two were.
It's plausible that he panicked in the moment, because he was a stupid fucking kid who'd gotten himself in way over his head, but the eagerness to kill protesters he'd openly displayed previously makes it very hard to argue that there wasn't an element of, if not premeditation, then awareness that killing someone might be a distinct and possible outcome of his actions that night.
It would be like me walking out into the middle of a busy intersection, having expressed a hatred and desire to kill people who drive cars, then opening fire on and killing the driver of the first car coming directly at me because there was an imminent and unavoidable threat of death or serious harm. I chose to walk out into the middle of the street; the fault should be mine.
That creature needs to go in here feet first.
First off, judges should be checked out before they are assigned a case. Second, judges should be held accountable. Third, if prosecutors don’t let victims know what plea deals are, it should be noted they are on the take. Finally this is a travesty of justice.
So how MAGA is he/ his family?
Yes
what does MAGA have to do with this though?
edit: seems like the reddit hivemind has struck again. I'm not even American and I'm just asking a question bruh
Conservatives are pro-rape
understood.
Could you elaborate on that?
...why is asking for further insight controversial
I would say one example would be when that 10-year-old girl was all over the news because she was raped by an adult and got pregnant and because of new bans in her state she had to travel to get the care she needed. A raped 10 year old where the laws voted in by conservatives would have meant that she would have been forced to give birth. Not every 10-year-old would come from a family that can afford to travel
They sued the physician who performed it. They didn't just go after her, they went after everyone.
because apparently once you get downvoted at least like 3 times, everyone just follows suite for no reason
https://www.yahoo.com/news/maga-violent-threats-spike-little-211816787.html
Yup, gets us all from time to time. Especially if you have a genuine question. I mean uh,....how dare you!
Nothing it just makes it so nothing will change in the future because everyone still thinks sides matter.
He'll have a new job at the White House in a week's time.
The answer is white in front of your face.
Huh. Where's the "But Think Of The Children" crowd?
Oh this is gonna be good. When another rapist just goes and rapes a girl in Oklahoma they can just cite this case as a precedence. Jesse can rape people and get off with some community service? If he can, then so can I.
Do adult crimes in you oen volition.
Face adult consequences.
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Sounds about white.
Black boys are facing decades behind bars for weed
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Oklahoma inbred.
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Karma will be right behind you.
"adult crime adult time"
There’s people who’ve done less serious crimes and still got jail time
https://i.redd.it/u5wh7e4wsu6g1.gif
On the plus side, everyone knows what he looks like, what his name is, and where he lives. He should have people "keep their community safe" with him around.
Wait he got off free or he served 80 years?
Actually I’ll just read the article or
USA ! USA! RAAAAAH
Fast track into politics now