They’re an awesome family with 3 kids. The parents are always doing stuff with them. They’re enrolled in soccer, hockey, gymnastics etc. Dad’s out in the driveway right now playing ball hockey with the boys. The go on trips as a family, take them on educational outings, camping, hikes, you name it.

All my wife can say is “Lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God”

/Rant over. Carry on.

  • She sounds miserable

    For sure. We both were. No matter what we did, it’s never good enough. I was an MS and faced constant pressure. I was stressed and was alcoholic. My wife still drinks heavily.

    I’ve been POMO for about 3 years now and never felt better. My blood pressure is normal now, 115/70. I’m doing fantastic health wise. Mentally, I’ve healed now but it took a long time.

    My wife is on depression meds, drinks a lot and is always negative about the conditions of the “world”

    I ask her, what about the fruitage of the spirit? Should you not be joyful???

    Knew someone similar even tried to kill herself while being on depression meds she is waiting for god to make paradise and at KH they all call her mama and admire her but at home its a different person

    You should never mix depression meds with alcohol. Just sayin. Watch out your wife, coz it is very dangerous, life threathing even.

    i love the footage of the spirit!

    Hehe I hate spellcheck sometimes

    Fruit by the footage

    Does she drink a lot? Well, the saying "lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God" should apply to herself.

    And yet you would be depicted by Watchtower as a miserable looking guy with a five o’clock shadow, like the one in the infamous 1981 Watchtower disfellowshipping article.

    I'm envious of your BP! 😄

    You’re exactly right, they should be joyful, but the fruit of that tree (man made doctrines) is bitter. Its so obvious. I feel sorry for them. 

    Glad you’re doing good now 🙂

    She probably is, with all of the do's and don'ts of her cult, she can't hardly move or breath without jw permission, oh and do something wrong and here comes shun city, their shunning is unbiblical, designed to force a person to repent so they can have their family an friends back.

  • It's fascinating how PIMIs manage to turn most things that are nice into something negative.

    You’re right.

    My husband took his nephew to his first NFL game on what just happened to be Pride Night.

    When we all got back to mother in laws house after the game instead of her first question being “how was the game?”, it was, “so was it just a bunch of gay people?” with a disgusted look on her face.

    This reminds me of a time when I was a teenager and I wanted to go buy an album and my mom asked me about what it was I was gonna buy (which wasn’t even anything crazy) and told me “you better not bring any demons into my house.”

    You must be a child of the 70s and 80s like me. We were all worried that demons were going to piggyback into the house with Motley Crue, Duran Duran, or Run DMC.

    Or in garage sale TV sets and clothes! 🤣

    No, but my parents were. Every adult I trusted as a kid told me stories about demon encounters and I believed it all.

    Too bad that back then I didn’t understand that Zechariah prophesied that unclean spirits would be put out from the land in the time of Jesus, which Jude confirmed in the New Testament. For all the time JWs spend talking against superstitions, they are an awfully superstitious bunch.

    Oh it was happening in the 90s too. It was my mom freaking out about my brother bringing demons into the house with Korn and Eminem cds lol

    Earth, Wind, and Fire, or Styx? 🤣🤣🤣

    They care more about their prejudices than their own family

    But at the very same time can only say very positive things about being a JW or only positive things about The Governing Body Organization.

    Sure. Nice things turn negative. And rotten apples turn to gold.🙃

    Exactly, an upside down world inside of JW Land.

  • It's very simple. Jehovah's Witnesses believe that we can only be happy in "truth" and that only they possess true happiness. As soon as someone "in the world" is happy, their happiness is, for them, necessarily fictitious. (You understand, they don't have Jehovah...) When they tell you that Jehovah's Witness couples are the happiest, if you have the misfortune to say that many couples in "the world" are also happy, it's practically labeling you an apostate... a cult member.

    So many couples stay married only because they will "displease Jehovah " if they leave their narcissistic, financially, emotionally and verbally abusive spouse. I see it all the time. His money is his and she pays the bills. And he's a MS, maybe an elder now. Makes me sick to see my friend continue to drink the kool-aid.

    I remember thinking that only JWs could have true love. That's even after my elder dad cheated on Mom with a 19 year old when I was the eldest of 4 and 14 years old. They were married for 51 years and everyone loved him. Very few knew about his past because they moved out of state. When I showed up everyone assumed it was Mom's fault.

  • They sound like real pieces of shit!

    The wife has been spotted

  • She is convincing herself, that what they are doing is not enough and bad.

  • All my wife can say is:

    “Lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God”

    “Lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God”

    “Lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God”

    .

    JW`s PARROT...

    Watchtower Story Lines.

    You have My Sympathy....😁

    love your comments 😂😂😂

    love your comments 😂😂😂

    TY!...........😁

  • pimis are insufferable, i’m not surprised

  • Remind her that there is nothing worse than Jesus hated than those who spent their time judging

    …It wasn’t the judging Jesus condemned. It was the hypocrisy.

  • well that phrase is brimming with jealousy

  • My mom is the same way and whenever I pointed out that they seem happy she just says "they're not truly happy, nobody can be happy without jehovah, they're just faking it and are trying to make their kids into competitive athletes"

  • So a woman who loves alcohol enough that it impairs her judgement wants to say that others love pleasure? How . . . interesting.

    I had the exact same thought

    Fr like make the logic make sense 😭

  • Haha wow I would say don’t be jealous 😆

  • My ex wife told a mutual nonjw friend that it is impossible for me to be happy because I left Jehovah. She has no idea how incredibly happy I am.

  • Sorry, for you and your kids being shown joy of living life is “worldly” aka bad.

  • Wish that had been my experience growing up.

  • I know JWs that go on 3 vacations a year. Amd they complain to my hubby that he works too much to pay for my medical bills cause my health has deteriorated for the last 25 years 5 major back surgeries and a total knee replacement and no "brotherly love" from our congregation!. So we left!

    And when they knew we hard faded they tried to woo my hubby back with the idea of making him an MS!

    We never replied back!

  • Shes just jelly she never got that childhood and cant give what the neighbor is experiencing to her/your kids because of the borgs orders. Quite sad really for the kids.

    Next time she says that say to her ’didnt you enjoy what we did in bed last night?'

  • I knew a similar case... But I dare to say that sometimes its pure jealousy!

    She had a miserable life and every time others have done things that she probably would like also, she was always criticizing... Bro, come on 😮‍💨

  • Traumatic— we were never baptized but this was our childhood. And after almost 30 years, we finally had the courage to point this out to our parents. This was abuse. They said that we should forget what happened and move on but I told them (shouted at them), this is the reason why we will never have a motivation to visit you. Our family is not close because we were scared to share anything. It’s always “jehovah this, bible that and never “as your father, as your mother..” We never had any family bonding, as am still single and I will never have a family to go home on holidays, we will always be awkward at social gatherings—because you abused us. And if we are successful with our careers it was because we had to do it ourselves! This sht we have to carry until we die, so no we will never forget! and if you truly believe there is paradise and we won’t be saved, why are you not histerical about this?! Selfish af, even in your delusion you never loved us, why should we? — they cried lmao.

    What I don’t understand is, how Jehovahs witnesses can even want to be in a world where their children aren’t there because their God murdered them. That’s hell not paradise. What kind of parent would want to live in that world?

  • This jehovite behaviour is common. Always tearing people down, being unreasonably critical. Outside of the cult this behaviour is rare i have found.

  • Only a JW would see a family enjoying wholesome activities and think it's something bad.

  • JWs are such miserable judgemental people. All while being followers of the most restrictive nonsensical soul suck of a religion. Make it make sense🤦🏾‍♀️🤷🏾‍♀️.

  • I always hated that self righteous shitty attitude. It's pure arrogance.

  • Please tell me you don't have kids ...

    We don't, thank goodness

  • 🤦🏻‍♀️Sad you deal with this. She’s only regurgitating what is taught in the Borg, very self righteous & narcissistic 🤢🤮

  • Sounds a bit jealous.. It is ok . She can wait until they are told to think for themselves.. And do things for themselves..

  • I wouldnt be surprised in the least if shes PIMO ... have you ever had this discussion?

  • And what business is it of her? Just saying

  • What a bunch of fools! Pleasure seekers! Why can't they see your just supposed to dream of a fantasy land and live for the GB!

  • Why cant you play hockey with your kids in the drive way or do any of those things mentioned?

  • She sounds very lazy.

  • Sounds like jealous. I could see her having some kind of point if they were out there smoking weed, drinking heavily and gambling and constantly prioritising that over bonding. But they're just out there having wholesome family fun and minding her own business!

    Even by JW standards being a JW wasn't supposed to mean giving up general family fun? Ask her if she thinks being a JW is meant to be boring and what that might say about how she thinks of god if she thinks that way. That should keep her on her toes.

    Lastly, and I swear I'm almost done here. The "pleasures" meant in that scripture I always read as self gratification specifically in reference to never JW people. Like e.g; when faced with the bible teach book telling you to cut back on alcohol and not celebrating Christmas, if you stopped there you'd be seen as a lover of pleasure. But a never JW who never studied I wouldn't view them as a lover of pleasure for just doing what they're doing because they haven't been "informed".

    Idk her reasoning just doesn't seem to check out to me even by JW standards. Sounds as if she has something else going on in her head too.

  • She envies them, or admires them on some level, and saying this assuages these feelings that cause her cognitive dissonance. 

  • Can you leave her?

  • Those folks are DOING NORMAL ACTIVITIES---- Activities which WT's Leadership DOES NOT Want it's membership to engage/participate in.  

    And THAT is why there are Extra Issues/ Problems within that cultporation, period---to the greater degree that there are A PLETHORA of people LEAVING it❗️👏👍

  • Yep! This was how my parents were growing up in the 80's. They didn't really do jack-squat with me, but if I brought up what the neighbours were doing as a family, I got the same stuff you mentioned. It was infuriating. Never mind that they were also really good people that I had a helluva time believing God would just up and kill cause they weren't JW's. Did I mention they also did volunteer and charity work? Ya know, stuff you never see JW's doing?

    I'm convinced JW's are the biggest buzz-kills and life-sucking kill-joys on planet earth.

  • What a miserable existence.

  • Really shows just how much that religion takes ahold of your life. Where meetings and assemblies take place of outside activities and are thought to be fun and enriching.

  • They truly are misery at it's finest.

  • I’ve been here for years and still can’t figure out what PIMI & POMO stand for, can someone tell me please

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    Wow this is very sad to hear. I am just roaming this sub as a witness lol. That is the opposite of what we are taught!

    That`s NOT True and You KNOW It....

    Your on a forum with people who have lived the life...

    What Bullshit Story do you have?....We get them all the time..

    Will your`s be different?....Do you have a Novel way Of selling bullshit that will fool 100,000+ Guests here.. The life they lived, never happened...

    This is your chance to show everyone what works in a KH, Works in the Real World!

    No it's not. You're talking to a lot of people that are still going to meetings and hear the teachings. You can't lie to us

    What exactly are you taught?

    Exactly...allowing your kids to play organized sports is taboo..If a family has regular and scheduled sporting activities, it's viewed as a weakness.

    Here they removed a brother being MS because his homeschooled sons played sports....

    This is what witnesses are taught to do. To hate others and to be miserable.