It's a race and they're mad they get to heaven first without living a life where they had to choose to believe in jesus to get to heaven.
If not.. why worship this god?
If god was real then I would've wished I was aborted. 🤷‍♀️
It's a race and they're mad they get to heaven first without living a life where they had to choose to believe in jesus to get to heaven.
If not.. why worship this god?
If god was real then I would've wished I was aborted. 🤷‍♀️
That's a funny thought, but it's not true.
The real reason is because the political right needed a new issue to get their evangelical base to get all hot and bothered around after the civil rights movement succeeded. They weren't winning on segregation, so they needed a new bogeyman to scare evangelicals into voting for the right.
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There's a fantastic article here that explains the changes really well
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/05/10/abortion-history-right-white-evangelical-1970s-00031480
Some astonishing quotes in there that are completely the opposite of Christian views today.
Yeah. People who want to rile up social conservatives will find anything to activate the disgust center of their brain.
This is the only right answer. Every other answer buys into the myth that this was a religious issue to begin with. It wasn't it was a wedge issue to drum up votes.
I disagree, but also I want to note that this makes more sense than actual christian pro-life beliefs.
There are beliefs from some Christians that the aborted children don't actually go to heaven because they never get to be born +correct me if I'm wrong) and if that's the case then it's still just as messed up if not more.
LMFAOOOO I CHOKED ON MY TEA
I saw a tiktok and it made me laugh so hard. This dude said "why are Christians againts abortion? Because the priests can't molest the children if they're aborted."
Christian are upset with abortion because it's a woman's choice.Â
Christians would accept a biblical (Numbers 5) abortion process, where only the husband is allowed to decide if the pregnancy is to be terminated.Â
They would also accept the death penalty for fornication, when a single woman as gotten pregnant, killing both the woman and the unborn child.Â
Remember this: at its core, Christianity is a death cult. At the most important moments in the Bible, someone dies. The final promise of Christianity: God will destroy the earth by fire: everybody dies.Â
That’s false but might be true, idk how to explain it
There’s a thing called The Children’s Limbo (Idk i only know its spanish name El Limbo de los Niños), where kids (or atleast babies, doesn’t mention fetuses but lets include them as babies for the sake of this) supposedly go when they die.
But one could argue most Christians don’t know it, most don’t even know there’s a purgatory in the christian mithology; so it’s likely most Christians do think aborted babies go to heaven, and based on how envious many christians are it wouldn’t be crazy they think what you say.
Most Christians straight up don't believe in purgatory. Especially protestants. The Catholic Church abolished the idea in 2013.
Which proves that Christianity has always been nonsense.
Yeah that’s interesting, a religion that can change at any time no matter the guy that supposedly was God passed away 2 millennia ago, but they still change the religion he founded, how coherent
No. They’re upset because they genuinely think of it as murder. They use poetic Bible verses interpreted literally to define life at conception: “before the womb I knew you” or something like that.
This. I absolutely believe it is a control thing with politicians, but I do think that many non-politicians simply believe that abortion is murder. I remember, growing up, the pastor at the church I went to would often speak out about abortion and would always say things like it was murdering people in the womb. Groups from the church (including my own parents, who would bring my siblings and me along as children) would stand on the sidewalk of our town's main street, holding up picket signs, some of which were graphic, showing pictures of late-term fetuses. Many of the signs said, "Abortion is murder!" I also genuinely believed it was murder until my late 20s or early 30s, near the beginning of my deconstruction. It was one of the first beliefs to go.
i think i'd rather have my child in heaven and then I can just ask for forgiveness 🤷‍♀️
It allows them to get behind a "cause" to push their beliefs onto others and they get to be the loudest voice because it's not like the unborn can say anything. But they give themselves away by how little they actually care about babies and children who aren't their own after they're born.
First of all, the idea that fetuses (and babies) that die go to heaven is not Biblical, nor is it what was believed by Christians in the past. Indeed, the Bible explicitly states that one must believe in order to get into heaven, and the simple fact is, fetuses and infants don't believe anything about religion. (John 3:18, for example, explicitly says that those who don't believe are condemned already. John 3:18 is supposedly the words of Jesus himself.)
The idea that the unsaved babies burn in hell for eternity is upsetting to some modern Christians, and so they reject the idea, regardless of what the Bible has to say on the matter.
As for modern Christians and abortion, the ones who are against abortion are ignoring the Bible on that, too. In Numbers 5 there is a divine and magical recipe for an abortion, a God-approved recipe for abortion. And in Exodus 21:22-25, if a fetus is accidentally killed, there is only a fine to be paid, whereas if someone dies, then it is life for life. In other words, the fetus is not regarded as a life by the author(s) of Exodus. A fetus is no more than property, according to the Bible, and is not a person.
What the abortion issue is really about is controlling women. Women are not supposed to engage in premarital sex, and if they do, then getting pregnant is a kind of punishment for their 'harlotry.' And the ones who are married are easier to control if they are pregnant. Additionally, the way that most new Christians are acquired is from believers having children and indoctrinating them into Christianity. It is much harder, and much more rare, for an adult, who was never raised to believe in something like Christianity, to be persuaded that their silly and ridiculous stories are true. It is much easier to indoctrinate someone from birth to believe their silly and vile superstitious drivel.
We also can know that it is not a real concern about fetuses, because conservative Christians vote agains things like free prenatal care for pregnant women, and other policies that would save the lives of more fetuses. They just want to stop abortions, and do nothing to help fetuses.
Also, it is a biological fact that, in normal sexual reproduction, many fertilized eggs naturally don't implant, and are simply expelled from the body. It is estimated that it is maybe half the time that they don't implant (the estimates vary quite a bit, some higher and some lower than half, but it is a very significant percentage regardless). Nobody cares about this. No one is doing anything to try to prevent this. If the so-called "pro-life" people actually cared about fertilized eggs and believed they were real people, then they would want research done to prevent this natural occurrence. (If there were a god that made the world as it is, god would be the biggest abortionist ever.)
The reality is, the so-called "pro-life" people are really anti-abortion and don't give a rat's ass about fertilized eggs and fetuses. It is really all about controlling women.
Christians (other than Catholics) are only upset with abortion because it gives them an issue to feel morally superior about - that has no personal cost. Once the baby is born, it's no longer their problem, and they don't need to be helpful.
In the last century, Evangelicals were actually pro abortion.
The Republican party conducted market research to determine a political issue that they could spin to provoke feelings of anger, moral superiority, and no responsibility - in order to get people to go to the polls and vote Republican. Abortion won out over the other ideas tested.
So I think it's more about being able to claim moral superiority vs anything else.
Which means dems should probably start hammering anti-abortion as immoral and unethical - because it is. It is denying life-saving healthcare.