Why is it so hard for Christians to acknowledge all the harm done by Christianity the colonizations, inquisitions etc.
I have come to the realization that Christians truly believe that slavery and colonization was just and loving , bcuz they couldn’t defend themselves, and instead of killing them they were made slaves.
Many also believe it was just and loving bcuz slaves were given food, work,shelter in exchange for being slaves.
I was subjected to missionary dating, was lied to for 1.5 years but this person made a Christian bf in 5 days and got married in 8 months. But when i asked her why thought i wasn’t christlike she could never give an answer. And i blamed myself for so long and then studied the religion for 2 going on 3 years now, only to understand that they all lie, lying is a sin unless its for good, thus they all constantly lie instead of being intellectually honest. Like for example, id ask them how is it pro life to kill infants in 1 samuel 15:3, and they often say bcuz the infants were wicked , to which i say there is no physical evidence for it, and if you dont have evidence you are “innocent until proven guilty”. And they still lie. Then i ask how is it pro life /loving or fair to support pdf aka vote for trump, and they continue lying.
And then recently ive been noticing that many Christians believe that western culture is superior to other cultures, what they never acknowledge is everything in western culture is made from the culmination of knowledge from other third world countries like numerical system, the use of “0”, without which architecture would be impossible or physics or any other scientific advancement,and “0” came from india.
But mostly what hurt me is the whole colonization conversation, they really said that the people that were colonized deserved it bcuz they couldn’t defend themselves. But me knowing how UK colonized india, through deceit especially after India welcomed foreigners as guests. It hurts,bcuz i have never thought about other cultures or people in this manner. And it hurts more realizing how the girl that put me through hell , and how much i loved her and what she actually thought about me. It makes me really sad and angry , anger which i dont know how to get rid of. I feel like exposing her lies even at the cost of legal action bcuz it better to live with truth out rather than me protecting her with my silence. I just want people to know all her lies (lies bcuz she kept me a secret all throughout but made the other guy a public bf in two weeks of meeting despite her saying how i am perfect for her a week prior).
It has shaken my trust in people ,it has shaken my moral compass bcuz everything feels like a lie and it has shaken my trust in love consequently, ive been single for 3 years now while she already had a bf in the next two weeks.
And trust me i have tried to move on , but jesus and Christianity keeps me stuck, everytime some Christian talks about Christianity and blatantly lies it triggers me into that state of being lied to constantly. And everywhere i go ,i encounter Christians and jesus.
I also have a lot of anger due to this bad of a mental health which is another reason why i cant move on bcuz everytime i try to talk to a girl i just get bad flashbacks and think to myself, she is gonna eventually lie too,why bother when this will have a potential to hurt like that too.
Prager U, what the now confirmed rapist in chief supported, had an “educational” short about how Columbus was chill because he never killed the natives but enslaved them instead. It all connects back to Christianity.
Well, so are Islam and Judaism. It’s a common trait with Abrahamics
Religion might have some positive aspects and accuracy, but there's also the negative aspects and lies and inaccuracy which makes it subject to scrutiny, and it's supposed to be a moral compass to guide people. I prefer secular humanism.
I mean slavery is in pretty much ANY religion that can go back that far, because that is just what life was like then.
However, it is important to differentiate slavery and chattel slavery. Slavery in and of itself is not racist, as slavery has existed in every culture. Chattel slavery is a very different thing.
Chattel slavery, of the African racial variety, was started by Arabs and North Africans
Irrelevant.
A lot of the world indoctrinated into christianity. I think you can protect your heart by not trusting people, but while still being kind to people when you are around them. Just because you are respectful and kind to someone, that doesn't mean that they are worthy of your trust.
Christians have a long history of lying to convert people and of trying to.use violence to force their views on other people. Christians failed to gaslight Panare Indians into religious shame and self-hatred, so Christians wrote a new gospel which said that they (the Panare Indians) killed Jesus, and that the christian god would roast them in fire unless they become christian. They lied and were willing to write a fake gospel just to scare them and trick them into converting. One Panare Indian woman yelled out, "I don’t want to burn in the big fire. I love Jesus."
There are even forgeries in the bible. While Seven Epistles of Paul are said to be real, the others are said to be forgeries. Even The Second Epistle of Peter (2 Peter) which claims that they didn't believe in cleverly devised myths but were witnesses to Jesus, was also a forgery and not written by Peter.
I’m not a Christian other than the fact that I believe the ethics he practiced and taught were among the best ever. But I’d challenge this. Jesus is said to have died for EVERYONE’s sin. He taught the essence of the Tanakh was to love god and love others. Doing unto others as you would have them do unto you is fundamentally at odds with racism.
Put it behind you.
Just be grateful for all the things that make you happy in this life and enjoy them with the ones you love. Pay it forward if possible.
Happy Holidays
Dawg I just made a post kind of like this right now just what I was thinking also
Racist to who
Christianity is racist in favor of the people of Israel who the bible sees as chosen above all others on the face of the earth (Deuteronomy 7:1-6) and from whom the special king called The Messiah or Christ is supposed to come. The Jesus character in The Gospels who was supposedly that special Jewish king, said this:
First off, I'm sorry you've been going through a hard time in your relationships. I hope you know that your worth as a person is not determined by how others feel about you. Relationships come and go; nothing is permanent, and realizing this early can help you build resilience.
Within the context of your post, as someone who was born and raised in the Philippines, a nation in which Christianity is the predominant religion (except the south, which is predominantly Muslim), I need to inform you that despite the Spanish Empire using the Philippines as a way to be connected to Chinese Trading networks, Christianity wasn't forced upon us in the way that many western people think which is by the Sword.
Essentially, the various ethnic groups of the Philippines (e.g., Tagalogs, Bisaya, Ibanag, Kampamangans, etc) practiced multiple forms of paganism that were already highly syncretic and flexible. Religion wasn’t centralized, scripture-based, or rigid in the way Christianity or Islam is. Because of that, conversion often happened through gradual accommodation rather than outright violence. Spanish missionaries learned local languages, rebranded existing rituals and deities into Catholic forms, and tied conversion to trade, protection, and access to colonial institutions rather than mass forced conversions at swordpoint. However, that doesn’t mean colonization was benign or moral, but it’s more complicated than the simplified “convert or die” narrative people often assume. In addition, Filipino Catholicism is pretty different from the kind of Catholicism you usually see in the West. Many of the practices are intensely local and intertwined with older, precolonial traditions. Many rituals, devotions, and festivals that exist today have roots in earlier pagan practices and were later adapted into a Christian framework.
Very true!
What kind of legal action? I'm sorry you felt this girl lied to you but there's nothing illegal about what I'm reading in your post
Her taking one against me potentially for exposing her lies,bcuz liars will do anything to protect their interests.
What lies? Just saying Christianity is bad and she is wrong about it doesn't have anything to stand on for legal action. I think this is a bit dramatic.
So she kept me a secret for 1.5 years but got a Christian bf in 5 days and got married in 8 months, now i obviously dont want her,but i do have alot of anger of exposing her “innocent Christian image” , the mature part of me would let it go , but i also feel like i want justice, and the more i learn about Christianity, the more i realize the vast amount of lies that she had spun around me. So i want her people to know about those things , that the whole “sweet Christian girl” image is just a facade. She has threatened restraining order but why would i get that for speaking the truth with receipts. I mostly feel anger about it bcuz of not only the heartache, but also this whole experience has collapsed my moral compass, hurt my mental health so much , so much trust issues in people much less women which just keeps me more stuck bcuz i can’t trust another girl to open up enough to actually move on, and i feel like im just protecting her with my silence and i dont want to stay silent anymore. It feels like IM deteriorating from the inside drinking this poison and want to spit it out.hopefully that gave a bit more context.
It’s also obviously sexist. Basically it’s all about oppressing vulnerable groups.
Fundamentally prejudiced and xenophobic, but not exactly "racist."
It IS inherently anti-Jewish thanks to the New Testament, as counterintuitive as it seems.
Basically, Romans couldn't be directly blamed in the NT for fear of Roman authority. So they blamed non-believing Jews most in the NT.
Those also happened to be the same people who largely rejected Jesus, because they actually knew the Hebrew Bible (OT), unlike Christians who could barely read the greek Septuagint.
That anti-Jewish sentiment in the Bible carried on to many atrocities in Europe, including a German populus with prejudice toward Jews, leading to susceptibility to Nazi ideals.
You need to look at European missionaries and how they were exactly racist. European colonialism/imperialism worked hand in hand with missionaries in Africa, Asia, Australia, North America and South America to subjugate aboriginal/indigenous/native people to them. Racism was probably originated by Christians. Jesus being portrayed as white as well as Adam is false. Africans were the first people. Jesus was probably dark skinned or olive complexion. Adam's first wife was Lilith, not Eve. Christianity descended from Judaism. It's probably for butthurt people who didn't like Judaism.
I'm not denying any of this. But if we are calling Christianity fundamentally racist, are we speaking about the texts themselves, or modern developments in majority Christian cultures?
It did, but that does not mean the texts themselves are fundamentally racist. Again, xenophobic and prejudiced for sure, but racism was a later concept developed during the European Age of Imperialism for economic gain.
Wow, absolutely groundbreaking stuff here. No shit 😒
You don't say? Is that why that weird Old Testament looks so similar to the Hebrew Bible? 🤦♂️
If you read my original comment, you would see how I noted that early Christianity was largely rejected by 1st century Jews because they actually knew their Messiah was supposed to be a real king, not some "spiritual king" nobody who was easily killed by the Romans. Some of the vitriol toward non-believing Jews found in the NT was this resentment over the rejection of early Christian cults' ideas. This is why Christianity spread much more through the Greco-Roman world, where people didn't really know the Hebrew Bible.
I think Constantine adopting the religion helped as well but he was an @$$ if truth be told about that emperor.
That was undoubtedly a massive part of it, I agree. But if the Roman populace really knew the Tanakh well, there is no way Christianity would have grown.
Well I haven't read either the Tanakh and the Christian Bible in their entirety, so if you have read both feel free to enlighten me as to why you feel the Roman population would have chosen that over Christianity more often than not.
What I'm saying is that Jews largely rejected Jesus because they knew enough of what the Messiah was supposed to be: and it ain't anything Jesus did, apart from riding a donkey.
Because the Roman populace didn't really know Jewish texts and religion, and the few that could read relied on the Septuagint, Paul and early Christians' fanfiction bullshit worked in the Greco-Roman world.
OK...maybe I should read both books and read up on Romans at the time to get a better understanding of what you're making reference to. How many Jews were available to them that could read compared to Christians? Maybe accessibility was a factor you mentioned that led to Christianity becoming the most popular religion in the world. It may take time for other contenders like Islam and Hinduism to approach the level of popularity if we use total number of followers as the metric to go by.
The Gospels have verses in favor of Jewish people:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3D7IUPzVzs0&pp=ygUfTmV3IHRlc3RhbWVudCBhbnRpIHNlbWV0aWMgYmFydA%3D%3D
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/YQfT_unqpjc
Turns out, there is more to it than just picking the few verses out of context you like . . .
Maybe read more from Biblical scholars before you post 😒 🤔
I would disagree, Christians really believe that colonialism was just and fair because they “won” in conquest.
I'm not saying Christians haven't used and weaponized prejudiced ideas found within the Bible.
However, racism is a much later development from the European Age of Imperialism.
If we are looking at the texts themselves, as in the Bible, racism wasn't really a concept when these texts were written. Xenophobic and prejudiced, yes, but calling these texts inherently racist is a misunderstanding of history.
I mean, most of what you said actually has very little to do with Christianity specifically.
That Christianity went along with colonizing does not mean Christianity was the REASON for colonizing. Just because Christianity mentions slavery does not mean it was the REASON for chattel slavery in the US. Just because Christianity was part of Western culture does not mean that it was the REASON westerners felt superior to everyone else. That it was used in some way as justification for these various things is an after-thought. It was a "We are doing it anyway, so lets find reasons to feel better about it" kind of thing. Blaming the religion itself for those actions is putting the cart before the horse.
All of these things would have happened just the same no matter what the dominant religion of the time had been.
Then why dont we see colonization of other people by other religions?
You mean like the Ottoman Empire? Imperial Japan? The Mongol Empire? The Islamic Empires that managed to stretch all the way to Spain? Multiple African and Ethiopian empires? Obviously the Roman Empire prior to the 300's. The Greeks did it, the Egyptians did it, even the Polynesians spread through colonial expansion. Just because some of these weren't as BIG as others (although the Mongols put even Rome to shame) doesn't mean they weren't doing it at all.
Literally every corner of the world has seen empires and colonization. Just because you haven't bothered to research the topic doesn't mean the topic doesn't exist, friend.