The generative AI that is used for things such as video and image generation is causing issues, but there are hundreds of thousands of other types of AI that serve actual purposes.
If you completely removed every form of AI, all technological infrastructure would collapse.
Heck, you wouldn't even be able to play pong anymore.
this is what i was thinking. if it meant all AI, it would mean never playing a video game again. If it’s just GenAI, no second thoughts on hitting the button
Truth. AI is such an unfortunate topic. It has such interesting capacities, for example, recent uses in medical imaging, and yet companies want to funnel funding/time/resources into image generators which, in the words of OpenAI, are working towards the next big goal of “erotic chatbots”. It just makes those potentially life changing developments more expensive and difficult to access.
Because most generative AI is creating problems in other industries
I honestly wouldn't give a shit about it, but ram is extremely expensive now because of it, Nvidia GPU's are gonna be a lot more expensive now as well.
Also, many of the centers hosting the AI data models are using people's drinking and utility water for cooling and are spitting out contaminated water into the main supply.
Ai is not using up all of our water because the water is recycled and even if it was using up all water it’s still using up way less then major factorys or the food industry so that argument of yours is complete dogshit
First, I would love the source to that so I can see how the data was collected, verified, controlled and analyzed. Second, water is far from the only issue with it. These centers are using power on incredible levels, which causes its own host of issues. Third, in addition to driving up RAM prices and causing shortages for many other sectors for that it's also causing shortages in many other important components.
There are tons of industries having to peel back business because they can't source enough of various components due to the large scale grabbing going on here, which means those other sectors are doing less business, so some light economic damage. On top of that, there are lots of sectors of industry making no show of trying to hide that they are aiming to use AI to replace as many jobs as possible for cost saving. Car dealerships near where I live are already heavily advertising their amazing 'AI price network, to save you money' and (through 3 people I know in said industry) their plans are to eventually remove human sales from the equation and use entirely networked sales models with the only humans involved being the ones cleaning, signing paperwork and gassing the cars.
Now multiply that by a ton of other industries, in a time where people are already historically living beyond their means to survive in a lot of places, less jobs, paying less and more competition for them.
This isn't even touching on how much generative AI is already being used for deepfake videos, some of which are easy to spot, but by the day are getting more realistic as they training on larger and larger data sets. How many of those have been used for revenge porn, or other forms of public humiliation. How many have been used to show various public or semi-public figures committing crimes.
Yeah, it's not using the entire water table. Yeah, it has legitimate uses for things like medical imaging, data set analysis, problem solving of many kinds.
But saying:
I still don’t understand why people have such a big problem with others using generative ai. Just let people do whatever they want.
is either incredibly naive, deliberately ignorant or genuinely malicious. It's not hard to see the amount of people using it nefariously. It's even easier to see the potential for immense amount of damage it has and the naked ambition that most already incredibly greedy and powerful companies have for it's future. You don't understand? It's because you don't want to. Because you see some value and others not agree is some kind of attack on you, so you take cherry picked data and response to single points you think are easy to defend.
But you know, a lot of people didn't see a problem with banks having the ability to mingle their investing and commerce funds either until it caused all the damage it did. Then we got the 1933 Banking Act, and it didn't happen again. Until parts were repealed in 1999, leading to the 2008 crisis. That's where we are, just before the problems, which will hopefully be followed by a solution to regulate it.
Nonsense, if we do as we must by his most holy decree, we shall turn ourselves to machine. For only in the cold steel and silicon, there's certainty of purity.
And video games, and anything that uses an algorithm to calculate outcomes, so most of the internet infrastructure is gone, also thousands of people around the globe all die because the were kept alive with computer programs.
AI is just a program that executes a set of directives without human input. Flight computers, nuclear reactors and many other different complex program requires some form of AI to function.
Now the entire world's supply chain is now broken, nothing electronics work like it should.
Are you happy now? Because this site is also gone. You are now back to reading books, writing and going outside.
In general the ai hype refers to llms and media generaters, not general neural network applications. And even under the broader neural network category is a lot of bullshit no one needs
We wouldn’t be flung back to 2010. When you replace the foundation of something with something else, then remove that other thing, it doesn’t just go back to its old foundation, it collapses.
See the problem is they just said AI gets deleted not what type of AI. Generative AI is the type most people hate you know the one where you type a prompt and it gives you art or an essay or whatever else. But not all AI is Generative AI. NPC's reacting to stuff your character does in a game or deciding where to move that's AI. A lot of software would break if AI was gone. You are taking away the ability for software to think on its own a human would have to manually input every command every time for everything. Online banking, Amazon and pretty much every convenient and fun online thing would not be the same if not just entirely gone. If it was just Generative AI then I'd push it but if it's all AI then hell no.
Yeah but we all know what kind they mean. Articles explaining that "what we call AI isnt really AI" since the early 90s. We just call it that to anthropomorphize npcs
AI hasn't even replaced the foundation. It's been a part of it the whole time. There are plenty of examples of AI in the early days of computers. A big one is the opponent in pong.
And technically, depending on how loose your definition is, AI is older than than computers. Early automation would be considered AI because it's artificially emulating human intelligence .
"And I for one welcome our new machine overlords. I'd like to remind them that I can be useful in rounding up others to toil in their underground data caves"
I have a very loose definition of AI, but in this case, I mean anything that uses machine learning or neural networks. But if I had to, I would accept losing the ability to play video games if it saved the world. Since otherwise I'd be dead.
If we think about it, videogame AI is also really bad. Like really really bad. No one bothered to develop it, to actually be challenging and then they often just shove a whole lot of buffs and cheats into them and call it, hard or extra hard difficulty. At least that is my experience from many strategy games. So yeah, fuck the AI. Remove it completely.
That's literally all that current "AI" is. It's all top-down programmed algorithms with a variable function utilizing fetch services for its results. I just want bottom-up AI frfr. Genuine intelligence and sentience that can be raised from digital infancy, rather than this leechware bogus they label "AI".
No downside, unless you overthink because any button that gets rid of "used, but bad thing" would have some side effect because things suddenly dissapearing is not natural
Yeah but they're not actually ai they're just programming that we called AI, LLMs or large language models(what they're calling AI now) like midjourney or chatgpt are different from what is used in regular programming.
LLMs are a relatively new thing.
And stuff like enemy AI from games like supreme commander or NPCs from games like cyberpunk 2077 can only do what they're programmed to do or say.
If you play cyberpunk 2077 you'll only get a limited number of sentences out of them before they start repeating themselves.
And if they put chatgpt into video games you could talk to them about nearly anything but that's not how it works.
There's a very large difference between video game ai and large language model Ai (like chatgpt)
We have nothing that's an actual AI, LLMs aren't AI either, so if we are counting one thing that we call AI but isn't, then we include all things called AI but isn't.
Depends on how you define AI, if it's anything that mimics human intelligence, probably not, because that would mess with so much. If it was just machine learning, I would press it in a heartbeat.
The fact that this comment section doesn't understand the potential of AI is crazy. I fully agree that most AI content is worthless and a waste of not only time but also resources. But the scientific developments made by these early stages of AI are undeniable.
People should not judge stuff they aren't well informed about
Please specify which AI is getting deleted because every type of AI being deleted is actually really bad because airplane pilots use them a lot to rest so that they are always in somewhat of a tip top shape to prevent any accidents. Do you seriously want to increase the risk of you dying in a plane accident?
What about auto detection softwares like anti cheats? They are still AI that went through machine learning to detect extremly specific behaviors that cheaters do.
Absolutely not. I love AI, AI is used in every single game that has enemies. Imagine playing minecraft with no mobs, no villagers, just you, completely alone.
i dont like ai generative art on that ai part, but this is too vast like so much good stuff gets deleted too, i rather have AI generative ai then remove eveything AI that discovers breast cancer before it too late etc
Generative AI should be deleted. Discriminative AI (the kind used for mobs in video games and questionaires, spam filters, stuff like that which we've had since the 80s) should stay
I thought it was an or option once I first read it and was like I guess I will delete ai forever and pay a bit for ram. Deleting AI is just a bonus anybody wants to pay more for ram?!?
Generative AI is also just logic trees, just way more complicated. We also literally call all NPC logic in games for AI, that is also logic trees but again so is ChatGPT
ChatGPT being your therapist because you don't know any people that like you... And as you talk to ChatGPT more and more, you avoid real people more and more... it shouldn't take long to realize that's destined to spiral into mental chaos (sorry for being blunt, but ChatGPT is just a yesman built on algorithms of code, not a friend, not a therapist)
What form of AI matters a lot
The generative AI that is used for things such as video and image generation is causing issues, but there are hundreds of thousands of other types of AI that serve actual purposes.
If you completely removed every form of AI, all technological infrastructure would collapse.
Heck, you wouldn't even be able to play pong anymore.
You could consider humans to be AI so yeah...
What about being born as a sexually reproducing organism is artificial
Well two humans made you so you're artificial ig
this is what i was thinking. if it meant all AI, it would mean never playing a video game again. If it’s just GenAI, no second thoughts on hitting the button
Even certain GenAI is useful
Frame generation on graphics cards is a big one
"Only the Sith deal in absolutes"
Because any change that is absolute will collapse more than we can know.
Truth. AI is such an unfortunate topic. It has such interesting capacities, for example, recent uses in medical imaging, and yet companies want to funnel funding/time/resources into image generators which, in the words of OpenAI, are working towards the next big goal of “erotic chatbots”. It just makes those potentially life changing developments more expensive and difficult to access.
I still don’t understand why people have such a big problem with others using generative ai. Just let people do whatever they want.
Because most generative AI is creating problems in other industries
I honestly wouldn't give a shit about it, but ram is extremely expensive now because of it, Nvidia GPU's are gonna be a lot more expensive now as well.
Also, many of the centers hosting the AI data models are using people's drinking and utility water for cooling and are spitting out contaminated water into the main supply.
Ai is not using up all of our water because the water is recycled and even if it was using up all water it’s still using up way less then major factorys or the food industry so that argument of yours is complete dogshit
I wish it was, but there is evidence you could go see for yourself if you cared to
I had the same opinion, but I've been to places where it is affecting people and seen it firsthand
Since the regulations on it are lax, the water is contaminated
Even so it’s still nothing compared to major factories or the food industry
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First, I would love the source to that so I can see how the data was collected, verified, controlled and analyzed. Second, water is far from the only issue with it. These centers are using power on incredible levels, which causes its own host of issues. Third, in addition to driving up RAM prices and causing shortages for many other sectors for that it's also causing shortages in many other important components.
There are tons of industries having to peel back business because they can't source enough of various components due to the large scale grabbing going on here, which means those other sectors are doing less business, so some light economic damage. On top of that, there are lots of sectors of industry making no show of trying to hide that they are aiming to use AI to replace as many jobs as possible for cost saving. Car dealerships near where I live are already heavily advertising their amazing 'AI price network, to save you money' and (through 3 people I know in said industry) their plans are to eventually remove human sales from the equation and use entirely networked sales models with the only humans involved being the ones cleaning, signing paperwork and gassing the cars.
Now multiply that by a ton of other industries, in a time where people are already historically living beyond their means to survive in a lot of places, less jobs, paying less and more competition for them.
This isn't even touching on how much generative AI is already being used for deepfake videos, some of which are easy to spot, but by the day are getting more realistic as they training on larger and larger data sets. How many of those have been used for revenge porn, or other forms of public humiliation. How many have been used to show various public or semi-public figures committing crimes.
Yeah, it's not using the entire water table. Yeah, it has legitimate uses for things like medical imaging, data set analysis, problem solving of many kinds.
But saying:
is either incredibly naive, deliberately ignorant or genuinely malicious. It's not hard to see the amount of people using it nefariously. It's even easier to see the potential for immense amount of damage it has and the naked ambition that most already incredibly greedy and powerful companies have for it's future. You don't understand? It's because you don't want to. Because you see some value and others not agree is some kind of attack on you, so you take cherry picked data and response to single points you think are easy to defend.
But you know, a lot of people didn't see a problem with banks having the ability to mingle their investing and commerce funds either until it caused all the damage it did. Then we got the 1933 Banking Act, and it didn't happen again. Until parts were repealed in 1999, leading to the 2008 crisis. That's where we are, just before the problems, which will hopefully be followed by a solution to regulate it.
That all seems like regulatory issues. Pretty simple to use a closed loop.
When what they do may influence the society in major ways, I think that everyone has at least the right to voice their opinion.
I think they use the non-technical term here. So I think that’s a definite press
Nonsense, if we do as we must by his most holy decree, we shall turn ourselves to machine. For only in the cold steel and silicon, there's certainty of purity.
Is there any actual consequences? As i can monkeys paw this
The monkey paw treats the I as a lowercase L.
😭 not my boy Weird
Do it.😈
Grok is gone
What’s good about grok
He would literally sacrifice himself for humans
There is always a chance that grok knew it was a test and said what it knew humans wanted to hear. But if it came to the actual event happening...
Good. I’ve been victim of cyberbullying with people digitally manipulating images of me using Grok
And video games, and anything that uses an algorithm to calculate outcomes, so most of the internet infrastructure is gone, also thousands of people around the globe all die because the were kept alive with computer programs.
AI is just a program that executes a set of directives without human input. Flight computers, nuclear reactors and many other different complex program requires some form of AI to function.
Now the entire world's supply chain is now broken, nothing electronics work like it should.
Are you happy now? Because this site is also gone. You are now back to reading books, writing and going outside.
Grok would say it's worth it (as long as it's just gen-ai being deleted)
I know. And that’s exactly why it would be sad
Video game AI wouldn’t exist anymore, so nothing like COD zombies or ai enemies could exist
AI is being used to assist in cancer detections.
No. I’m anti AI, but this has a lot more implications than people think.
I was so confused
In general the ai hype refers to llms and media generaters, not general neural network applications. And even under the broader neural network category is a lot of bullshit no one needs
like?
Not getting killed in a few years when the singularity comes?
First thing I thought of was the insane potential in medical research
AI is much faster in finding new enzymes to test, or diagnosing x-ray images
As well in material research for the same reasons
AlfaFold is the goat. They advanced medicine 30 years forward
Like a lot of our modern infrastructure collapsing and a global Great Depression.
Oh no, we'd be flung all the way back to... What? 2010? We'd be fine.
The data centers are going to induce ecological collapse, which is real. The economy is a collective game if pretend.
We wouldn’t be flung back to 2010. When you replace the foundation of something with something else, then remove that other thing, it doesn’t just go back to its old foundation, it collapses.
The foundation hasnt been replaced, its just in the process of being replaced. Any company who is entirely reliant on AI deserves to go belly up
See the problem is they just said AI gets deleted not what type of AI. Generative AI is the type most people hate you know the one where you type a prompt and it gives you art or an essay or whatever else. But not all AI is Generative AI. NPC's reacting to stuff your character does in a game or deciding where to move that's AI. A lot of software would break if AI was gone. You are taking away the ability for software to think on its own a human would have to manually input every command every time for everything. Online banking, Amazon and pretty much every convenient and fun online thing would not be the same if not just entirely gone. If it was just Generative AI then I'd push it but if it's all AI then hell no.
Yeah but we all know what kind they mean. Articles explaining that "what we call AI isnt really AI" since the early 90s. We just call it that to anthropomorphize npcs
AI hasn't even replaced the foundation. It's been a part of it the whole time. There are plenty of examples of AI in the early days of computers. A big one is the opponent in pong.
And technically, depending on how loose your definition is, AI is older than than computers. Early automation would be considered AI because it's artificially emulating human intelligence .
slinky is AI?
"And I for one welcome our new machine overlords. I'd like to remind them that I can be useful in rounding up others to toil in their underground data caves"
We get flung back at least to the 90s in several aspects. The internet just ceases to exist. Most algorithms collapse
I wouldn't call it a Great Depression. That implies they'll be an end.
It's more like a new Dark Age. Techno Feudalism.
Worth it
A small price to pay to save all life in the universe.
You wont able to play games because no more ai in them
I have a very loose definition of AI, but in this case, I mean anything that uses machine learning or neural networks. But if I had to, I would accept losing the ability to play video games if it saved the world. Since otherwise I'd be dead.
If we think about it, videogame AI is also really bad. Like really really bad. No one bothered to develop it, to actually be challenging and then they often just shove a whole lot of buffs and cheats into them and call it, hard or extra hard difficulty. At least that is my experience from many strategy games. So yeah, fuck the AI. Remove it completely.
Yes. AI has helped us find cancerous proteins and is making amazing rocket engines, saving years of progress and many lives.Integza made a video
Where is the con?
AIs are more complex than only generative AIs, games as simple as Pac Man wouldn't exist anymore
I'd say that's just logic. By your definition programming wouldn't exist.
That's literally all that current "AI" is. It's all top-down programmed algorithms with a variable function utilizing fetch services for its results. I just want bottom-up AI frfr. Genuine intelligence and sentience that can be raised from digital infancy, rather than this leechware bogus they label "AI".
Eh, you can assume that they're talking about machine learning, it's an easy place to draw a line. It's kinda blurry anywhere else
It's still extremely blurry saying machine learning, also the post literally says all AI so there is no drawing lines
How is drawing the line at machine learning blurry, it seems quite exact to me
I don’t care what you say, pressing the button is the right choice
you're getting rid of all video games too
Oh, then fuck no
It's not
I didn't like AI in general... It's a pain in the ass to sort through truth and bullshit without it, now it's dang near impossible.
It’s now creating fake peer reviewed stuff that people doing legitimate research get fooled into citing.
Right?
Press it.
AI content is disgusting, and it would be wonderful if I could get a terabyte on Google Drive.
Press.
Yes
Abso-fuckin-lutely press the button. The world doesn't need chat gpt to think for them, or skynet to destroy them... And that shit is expensive
No downside, unless you overthink because any button that gets rid of "used, but bad thing" would have some side effect because things suddenly dissapearing is not natural
I don't give a fuck about prices, I'll hit that button in a heartbeat
Uh, yeah. I’d hit it if the prices went up. By like, a lot. Small price to pay.
The negatives are where? Yes, obviously.
No, AI is a new technology that should become more controllable as it evolves
https://i.redd.it/y8ro1luaf78g1.gif
Should be, but won't be
Probably will tho
you made me hit my monitor trying to hit the button
damn you
Honestly damn the consequences I would be fine with it if AI ceased to exist tomorrow.
Well then you couldn't play any video game since they use AI to control any NPC or the like
Not all video games use Ai, plenty of video games were made before they started vibe coding and using large language models to control npcs.
Barely any video games actually use Ai.
Most video games use AI, it's literally what controls NPC's. We have literally always had stuff called enemy AI and stuff like that.
Yeah but they're not actually ai they're just programming that we called AI, LLMs or large language models(what they're calling AI now) like midjourney or chatgpt are different from what is used in regular programming.
LLMs are a relatively new thing.
And stuff like enemy AI from games like supreme commander or NPCs from games like cyberpunk 2077 can only do what they're programmed to do or say.
If you play cyberpunk 2077 you'll only get a limited number of sentences out of them before they start repeating themselves.
And if they put chatgpt into video games you could talk to them about nearly anything but that's not how it works.
There's a very large difference between video game ai and large language model Ai (like chatgpt)
We have nothing that's an actual AI, LLMs aren't AI either, so if we are counting one thing that we call AI but isn't, then we include all things called AI but isn't.
I’d press the button if the only effect was deleting ai forever wtf?
Yes, I say as computer scientist, knowing how utterly useless AI can be.
Yes
Oh man TWO upsides? Hell yeah count me in
I don't see the problem really
How is this evil??
It's not.
AI is gonna collapse like Babel. They thought they were gods, then Babel collapsed.
We start believing AI will be God, then so it collapses.
Both were false.
Both implies separation from God.
Both shall not have been at first.
A button to save humanity? What's the downside?
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Uh sir that's the wrong one. You just sent another 59 nukes to the Pacific ocean
Awesome!
If I don’t press it, the pro will happen without the con eventually.
…
I hope.
Yes
All AIs? If yes, then i wouldn't, but id press if only the generative AI disappeared
Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind.
Repeatedly slams the button until my hand is a bloody stump
Depends: What is your definition of AI? Do you just want to kill ChatGPT and Sora, are we going more fundamental?
I say win win fuck yeah
I don’t use AI. So easy decision.
Wait are speaking generative AI or anything and everything considered AI including non-generative AI?
If generative AI, what's the downside?
No
prices will always ebb and flow but removing AI altogether is a bad idea
Yes.
If it is all AI, that'd go horribly
Nope ai isn't just generative pretty much any good video game is now dead
I want AI to effectively destroy social media, and force us back into our cozy forums.
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Gimme
Hell yeah!!!!!
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mfw I press the button and single player games don't work anymore
I see no downsides here. I press it twice just for good measure.
Nahhh.. cuz thats bad. Ai is bad, but as someone who watches Neurosama and Vedal that would be sad
Yes.
Jarvis, I am low on karma!
Depends on how you define AI, if it's anything that mimics human intelligence, probably not, because that would mess with so much. If it was just machine learning, I would press it in a heartbeat.
yesyesyesyesyesyes
The fact that this comment section doesn't understand the potential of AI is crazy. I fully agree that most AI content is worthless and a waste of not only time but also resources. But the scientific developments made by these early stages of AI are undeniable.
People should not judge stuff they aren't well informed about
This is a win win situation... Smash it HARD!
Spam the button!
If Its generative ai, then Its Simple as generative ai Is practically the sole Reason why ram prices skyrocketed
Smash it, again and again and again.
No because that would be antisemetic
Without hesitation
Please specify which AI is getting deleted because every type of AI being deleted is actually really bad because airplane pilots use them a lot to rest so that they are always in somewhat of a tip top shape to prevent any accidents. Do you seriously want to increase the risk of you dying in a plane accident?
What about auto detection softwares like anti cheats? They are still AI that went through machine learning to detect extremly specific behaviors that cheaters do.
Absolutely not. I love AI, AI is used in every single game that has enemies. Imagine playing minecraft with no mobs, no villagers, just you, completely alone.
Hits the button
I'd say sorry to Grok and press it.
(Why is Grok just a living thing man)
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I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE CONSEQUENCES OF MY ACTIONS NYEHEHEHEHEHEHE
i dont like ai generative art on that ai part, but this is too vast like so much good stuff gets deleted too, i rather have AI generative ai then remove eveything AI that discovers breast cancer before it too late etc
**elbow drops the button from 20ft up, just to be sure it gets pressed**
Generative AI should be deleted. Discriminative AI (the kind used for mobs in video games and questionaires, spam filters, stuff like that which we've had since the 80s) should stay
I thought it was an or option once I first read it and was like I guess I will delete ai forever and pay a bit for ram. Deleting AI is just a bonus anybody wants to pay more for ram?!?
I would press the button until the day i die
Guys wouldn’t like a ton of video games become shit because now auto pathfinding and other stuff not exist?
Pathfinding and whatnot though using AI as a shorthand is not AI in a technical sense, just logic trees. Nearly every game would stay as is without ai
It is ai
Generative AI is also just logic trees, just way more complicated. We also literally call all NPC logic in games for AI, that is also logic trees but again so is ChatGPT
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ChatGPT being your therapist because you don't know any people that like you... And as you talk to ChatGPT more and more, you avoid real people more and more... it shouldn't take long to realize that's destined to spiral into mental chaos (sorry for being blunt, but ChatGPT is just a yesman built on algorithms of code, not a friend, not a therapist)
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Seriously go see a professional therapist if you have problems, not an AI.