I'm not trying to be rude. But why don't White People in Europe have Kids. I'm being serious, if you guys on this sub don't wanna be replaced, why don't you guys start dating and have Kids
It's up to you to Populate your countries not outsiders 🫵🏿🤷🏿
The problem isn’t necessarily that the “white people in Europe” are not having kids. They are having 1-2 children per family as they always have. The problem arises when the governments are importing tens/hundreds of thousands of people who outbreed the natives by 6-7 children (that are often raised on welfare funds that the locals are not benefiting from). And often times these people have no plans to integrate into the societies that they are entering into.
Europeans have been gaslighted with 'don't have kids, it's better for the planet', etc. propaganda, then when they have kids, they can become victims of the various 'enrichers' and Europeans are again gaslighted that this repulsive replacement is only their fault.
It is a vile mind-game and that's putting it lightly.
also women want to have a career and a family and are prioritizing the former. that doesn't work very well for having enough children for replacement level. meanwhile the immigrants are basically churning kids out like a factory.
Whether they are having 1,2,3, or 4 children, the issue is as I previously stated. People who are native to the land are having the amount of children they can realistically afford, but are being outbred by those who their governments have decided to import. Those who can’t see the issue are actively choosing to not see the issue.
Look, the rate of ethnical change that is happening in Europe last decades is overhelming, its comparable to when german tribes overrun Roman Empire, its suicidal madness that most society and politicis support that... but you are delusional as hell.
First, natality in most european countries is closer to 1 than 2, and despite having more resources that 70 years ago the socio-economic climate make It harder to have children, and thats our own fault, we put money in God place, and big companies in place of running our society and deciding where is the meaning of life (consumptionism aka hedonism). Second, with natality of 1. and society where for each young there will be more old person it is unsustainable to maintain current state of social spending. In close future up to 50% of all govern spending in Spain will go only to maintain old not working part of society. Tell me you how you can keep this afloat?
Politician have not an idea so are bringing millions of migrant to delay solution few years more. And hedonistic society we living is going with flow as long as that will pay its retirements. Meanwhile companies sorting out young mother from carer advancement.
the reason people are having fewer kids is to due financial costs associated with modern states.
Such as very high taxes.
Why are taxes so high?
Because welfare states have grown exponentially.
Why?
Because European nations imported millions of foreigners, most of whom make use of the welfare states to live a luxurious life at the expense of the taxpayer.
Bring the tax burden down and people would have more kids as they would be more financially secure.
Pretty sure it is NOT a monetary issue. People just want to watch their streaming services, buy hello Kitty dolls (major problem in Japan) and not having to take care of a kid. Better standards, more things to do in your spare times. All these are part of the issue.
But but dont say them that... is easier to blame alien agent for so complicated problem, se we can be blameless and victim, and and top of that have easy solution.
The issue is culturally we have changed, we westeros moved from culture of sacrifice to culture of pleasure, of culture of hard working to born right. There a letter from roman historician from 4 century in which he complains about roman youth which, by his account, dressed like barbarian and was doing party all night perturbaring sleep of the older ones. Arent we here ourselves?
Staying with romans, when te decline started to be pronounced there were no big state anymore which trascendent inviduals parts of society there were big families who run the buisness of putting emperors. Is analogy with big companies which are more powerful that our political institution not equivalent? There is no more trascendental interes of a state, there is practical interes of money. Also, im not marxist, but neverless he was in some issues right, for example, when he said the culture dominant is the culture of dominant class. Whom gain more from infinitles cheap labour? Who gain more from real state prices soaring because growing demand? From glabalized market?
And societaly issue of retirement is the real one. You have system based on few old for many young working
In situation when this old had few kids because wanted to enjoy live, and now want keeping up with retirements because want to enjoy old age, and as a part of society are becoming biggest group so politician need their vote... pan et circus must keep going. Easy solution that not gonna work is bringing millions of people from outside.
Solution would be sacrificie. Sacrifice part of social spendind to technology spending to look for more robotization. To pay less retirements in case of people who didnt had kids (or make them have to work longer). To not spoil so our own citizen who become as that young romans. There are plenty of european living parasiticaly from wellfare as well. Stuff like that, all of which implies sacrifice in the present which the society as our is unable anymore. So we bringing bazillion of imigrant hoping that problem will solve itself somehow miracously in the future. Suicidal nuts of dying culture.
Taxes are also so high (for middle class) because big companies and rich people are paying less and less. Also people not having children is partially cultural, partially due to companies penalizing having children. Uncertainty in work market, not stable jobs. But that late capitalism issue, lets move to the next question. For example in Spain up to 50% of all country spending will be dedicated to old in retirement in recent future, and you saying that all the problem is due to foreigners? Ok, let me doubt. That being said, EU must regulate migration, what happened for example in 2015 has cost european taxpayers billions of euro. If happyflower people like Greta want to save the world, they can do it but with their own money not everyone money.
Multinationals appear to pay a majority of the UK's corp tax revenue. But you have a point; it is falling.
The top 1% of income taxpayers in the UK pay around 30% of total income tax revenue.
The 10% of income taxpayers with the largest incomes contribute over 60% of income tax receipts.
IDK if these are rising or falling.
For example in Spain up to 50% of all country spending will be dedicated to old in retirement in recent future, and you saying that all the problem is due to foreigners? Ok, let me doubt.
Spain has a huge youth unemployment problem. The companies need to be starved of foreigners and start appealing to native Spaniards.
I will not speak about specifically UK because dont know, but in case of United States effective corporate tax rate today is like only 30-50% of what it was in 50s. Which is kinda hilarious if you think, mythic ideal for USA conservatives, the 50s, and yet their way to get there again is through less and less taxes for riches. Im doubt those numbers of effective corporate tax falling is different in other countries, perhaps with different percentages, but the direction remain neverthless.
Spain is reaching its lowest point in general unemployment which by other western countries is high regardless, in 2007 in full construction bubble there was like 8% of unemployment. My opinion, its a cultural thing, picaresca if you will. Hidden economy is huge, there are tons of spaniard who dont want to work, and state dont let them stay behind. In fact one of the problem Spain construction are facing right know is that there no are skilled workers for constructions. Lot of thay young unemployment are ni ni, person who dont want work neither wanted study earlier. Last not least Spain has never so many people working as in 2025, state never collected so much and yet debt keeping grow. It is impossible for a country to have a future if most of It spending will be destinated to retirement people which by 2025 already on average are more rich due to owning homes that young that have to pay 2/3 of their income to rent, in many cases to those same older in retirement. And that the point of question which you omitted. System when designed, was thought to opposite demographical situation we will face in near future.
People who are native to the land are having the amount of children they can realistically afford, but are being outbred by those who their governments have decided to import.
Outbred by people who choose to have more children, despite facing the same economic situation.
They are having 1-2 children per family as they always have.
Thats untrue, 1-2 children per family has only been the norm the last 30 or so years, both my parents are white and come from a family of 6 and 7 respectivly
Because the system is propped up in such a way that the indigenous population is too busy working to afford life, making it extremely hard to plan, fund the birth of children, but also care for it.
The imported population doesn't have this problem because they mostly live on benefits and can just pump unlimited kids and they're home all day to care for their offsprings. Their belief system is also less individualistic and more community oriented, which isn't the case for the indigenous people, as their self-perception has been moulded into free floating, atomised individuals for the past 80 years.
The more kids the more government allowance is given to the imported families, paid for by the indigenous families's tax contributions. The imported population also doesn't concern themselves with consequences and long term concerns like climatic impact, security, education etc.
It's literally a vicious circle. We are forced to fund our replacement. The only way to break the loop is a complete and total Remigration. ALL non-indigenous, non-Europeans must be remigrated to their country of origin, so that the indigenous population can develop at it's own pace on it's own land, and leverage technology to compensate the lower birth rates (automation, robotics, AI), but also relieve the pressure on the system (healthcare, housing, employment, infrastructure congestion) to facilitate the creation of indigenous families and births. A moratorium on our belief system will also be needed to adjust expectations and recreate the social tissue that has been lost.
If a civil conflict erupt, the different groups will fight for domination over the land and will impose their way of life. By creating a new government, they can do whatever they want.
Assuming the current system, it varies depending on the country. Some countries are extremely entrenched with counter powers that will contest, slow or flat out repudiate any decisions. Germany and France are such cases.
I will take France as an example because that's what I'm most familiar with. The powers that be have set up an extremely convoluted system with now outdated entities that has been entrusted with illegitimate power. For example, the Conseil d'État and Conseil constitutionnel, which are unremovable, unelected (seated by itself and the president), undemocratic bottlenecks that will shut down legislation being passed by the National Assembly if they wish to. So if you elect representatives and they legislate a text and pass it, there is no guarantee it will be made into law. Then you have the problem of the judiciary, similar to the USA, who can be a thorn because of the corruption with ideologically compromised judges. A referendum is a way to bypass most of that and push legislation, but the population need to be united.
For the UK it's another matter, and it's probably the country with the higher chance of success in steering their country back without bloodshed. Their parliament is sovereign, so once they elect the correct representatives in a majority, and put everything they want to do in their manifesto, they can repeal any text and create any law.
Before any of this, countries will have to get rid of the supranational entities that will prevent them being sovereign. For France it means an exit from the EU, as there is no way to opt-out of the ECHR without a potential article 7 trigger of the EU charter. For the UK they will have to repeal ECHR and Humans Rights Act and many others texts.
I have excluded the possibility of internal reform of the European Union because I do not believe this is feasible, especially with 27 countries inside, veto power and the amount of time left before losing the complete control of our nations. This would be akin to waiting for all of the planets in the solar system perfectly align at the same time, no point in entertaining such thought.
Now as to what law you could pass? You could redefine in the constitution what being a citizen mean, by specifying a citizen must have ancestry to the country or the continent to pretend to citizenship. You would have to revoke any citizenship from 1945 onwards not meeting this criteria, with a case by case re-examination for people who cannot prove ancestry or solid ties to the soil. If you can't prove any of this, you could grace people if they provide DNA test results that has enough markers that meet the desired criteria for eligibility. Then, when you have defined this, you can start remigrating the people that are no longer eligible to stay here. You can ask them nicely so they can leave in their own terms, or you can leverage the power of the state, including seizing goods and properties.
It sounds extreme and a bit dystopian, I can understand that, but the alternative is the disappearance of the indigenous European population. This is the consequence of 50 years of laissez-faire and inaction, indifference and in some cases, flat out malice.
I don't think it'll be as easy in the UK as you say. Most people are citizens - and that citizenship cannot be removed except in extreme circumstances, including international law requirements to not make someone stateless.
Foreign countries can easily wipe the "eligibility" for ancestral citizenship, leaving the people you want to remove with only UK citizenship and no eligibility anywhere else.
Most of the non indigenous imports already have a nationality due to how blood ties work with their country. They have double citizenship in most cases, this is a non issue.Â
I don’t see why their home country would change their system just to piss off the UK and marginalise their own ethnic groups and disenfranchise them of their homeland.
For the very small subset that don’t, we can brainstorm solutions when the bulk of them have gone.
Partly right, but it doesn't help if governments are giving free housing to migrants while local population has to keep living at their parents because the housing market is broken.
It's illegal in Belgium to separate people based on the color of their skin. Our pensions + social security have a huge cost, which means among the highest taxes in the world. Combine this with a half of the country being essentially freeloading, means us Flanders people need to work our asses off.
It's expected to dump our kids in daycares for the first few years, then they can go to school. Since emancipation, it's become the norm to work with 2 people. Raising a kid in these conditions is pretty rough, which is why it's not attractive any more.
On the other hand, when living on welfare, it is very practical to get lots of kids, and even spend time raising them.
These people want to raise intelligent cared for humans who receive love, attention, and resources from their parents so they can build a better world. Practically this means having 1-2 kids.Â
You bought 7 cookies yesterday, but while you were sleeping, invaders entered your home and gobbled them all up. Why didn't you eat all the cookies the very moment you bought them?!
You were saving for a home, and you'd saved 25K Euros, but the invaders accessed your account and stole the money. Are you stupid, saving that much money?! Why not simply spend all your money the very moment you get it, to prevent anyone else using it?
Leftism and naive mentality of 'everyone is equal, thus we should accept anyone no matter what' without taking in consideration the background of their culture. It's a form of Stockholm syndrome
Yes. This stat basically shows what the population of Brussels will be like in 60 years. It will take 30 years for 30% of the older indigenous brussel to die off, and then another 30 years for another 30% doe die of old age. The result is already set in stone basically, this cant be changed no more
Treason of the Belgian people by their own government, the liberal elites will just move to nicer neighborhoods / city districts, up to the point where shit hits the fan, and then they'll just leave the state, leaving an Islamic hell hole behind which they fought to dig.
* Biocapacity (what the land used uses eg food materials energy)
* Ecological Impact (footprint) = Population x consumption x technology
OR more elegantly:
EF = Consumption / Yield (vs Biocapacity)
If one were to calculate a sustainable Belgium what population size should it go for and it seems it is too high and overshooting then why is increasing the population via immigration employed?
Provided our nations survive this, the generations of the future are going to have the most absolute fun in history class, marvelling at how retardedly suicidal we became. I can only hope they read about our leaders with the necessary levels of scorn, derision, and hatred at the idea that the prospect of their very existence was being sold down the river for reasons of needless guilt, economic hoodwinking, and shameless clout seeking.
Welcome to Belgistan... maybe it's time to move the European capital of Europe somewhere... european? Any city in Poland or CZ will be a good candidate I guess !
Europe is in the middle of committing suicide it’s crazy. And then they wag finger at countries doing something about Muslim problem like when USA slows down Islamic immigration and when Israel fights terror. Absurdity.
In Sweden it's "only" 40%, yet people always talk about us and very rarely about Belgium. Then again, Belgians aren't on the internet whining about it all the time
My educated guess: first generation might have been from former colonies, and then they kept breeding - some mixing with locals -; by marriage, or time, they got Belgian citizenship and stayed, while passing down their tribal and parasitical worldview to new generations.
Those who gained citizenship, who may also have got here through asylum, can then exploit very generous family reunification and welfare policies, to increase the influx of members of their race to leech off the taxpayers’ money.
Then, after they have infested societies, they breed and multiply while living on welfare, undeclared work and crime.
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In 30 years, Belgium is going to be less than 50% Belgian
I'm not trying to be rude. But why don't White People in Europe have Kids. I'm being serious, if you guys on this sub don't wanna be replaced, why don't you guys start dating and have Kids
It's up to you to Populate your countries not outsiders 🫵🏿🤷🏿
The problem isn’t necessarily that the “white people in Europe” are not having kids. They are having 1-2 children per family as they always have. The problem arises when the governments are importing tens/hundreds of thousands of people who outbreed the natives by 6-7 children (that are often raised on welfare funds that the locals are not benefiting from). And often times these people have no plans to integrate into the societies that they are entering into.
Europeans have been gaslighted with 'don't have kids, it's better for the planet', etc. propaganda, then when they have kids, they can become victims of the various 'enrichers' and Europeans are again gaslighted that this repulsive replacement is only their fault.
It is a vile mind-game and that's putting it lightly.
also women want to have a career and a family and are prioritizing the former. that doesn't work very well for having enough children for replacement level. meanwhile the immigrants are basically churning kids out like a factory.
Fertility rate has dropped over time.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1251565/total-fertility-rate-in-europe/
Whether they are having 1,2,3, or 4 children, the issue is as I previously stated. People who are native to the land are having the amount of children they can realistically afford, but are being outbred by those who their governments have decided to import. Those who can’t see the issue are actively choosing to not see the issue.
Look, the rate of ethnical change that is happening in Europe last decades is overhelming, its comparable to when german tribes overrun Roman Empire, its suicidal madness that most society and politicis support that... but you are delusional as hell.
First, natality in most european countries is closer to 1 than 2, and despite having more resources that 70 years ago the socio-economic climate make It harder to have children, and thats our own fault, we put money in God place, and big companies in place of running our society and deciding where is the meaning of life (consumptionism aka hedonism). Second, with natality of 1. and society where for each young there will be more old person it is unsustainable to maintain current state of social spending. In close future up to 50% of all govern spending in Spain will go only to maintain old not working part of society. Tell me you how you can keep this afloat?
Politician have not an idea so are bringing millions of migrant to delay solution few years more. And hedonistic society we living is going with flow as long as that will pay its retirements. Meanwhile companies sorting out young mother from carer advancement.
the reason people are having fewer kids is to due financial costs associated with modern states.
Such as very high taxes.
Why are taxes so high?
Because welfare states have grown exponentially.
Why?
Because European nations imported millions of foreigners, most of whom make use of the welfare states to live a luxurious life at the expense of the taxpayer.
Bring the tax burden down and people would have more kids as they would be more financially secure.
Pretty sure it is NOT a monetary issue. People just want to watch their streaming services, buy hello Kitty dolls (major problem in Japan) and not having to take care of a kid. Better standards, more things to do in your spare times. All these are part of the issue.
But but dont say them that... is easier to blame alien agent for so complicated problem, se we can be blameless and victim, and and top of that have easy solution.
The issue is culturally we have changed, we westeros moved from culture of sacrifice to culture of pleasure, of culture of hard working to born right. There a letter from roman historician from 4 century in which he complains about roman youth which, by his account, dressed like barbarian and was doing party all night perturbaring sleep of the older ones. Arent we here ourselves?
Staying with romans, when te decline started to be pronounced there were no big state anymore which trascendent inviduals parts of society there were big families who run the buisness of putting emperors. Is analogy with big companies which are more powerful that our political institution not equivalent? There is no more trascendental interes of a state, there is practical interes of money. Also, im not marxist, but neverless he was in some issues right, for example, when he said the culture dominant is the culture of dominant class. Whom gain more from infinitles cheap labour? Who gain more from real state prices soaring because growing demand? From glabalized market?
And societaly issue of retirement is the real one. You have system based on few old for many young working In situation when this old had few kids because wanted to enjoy live, and now want keeping up with retirements because want to enjoy old age, and as a part of society are becoming biggest group so politician need their vote... pan et circus must keep going. Easy solution that not gonna work is bringing millions of people from outside.
Solution would be sacrificie. Sacrifice part of social spendind to technology spending to look for more robotization. To pay less retirements in case of people who didnt had kids (or make them have to work longer). To not spoil so our own citizen who become as that young romans. There are plenty of european living parasiticaly from wellfare as well. Stuff like that, all of which implies sacrifice in the present which the society as our is unable anymore. So we bringing bazillion of imigrant hoping that problem will solve itself somehow miracously in the future. Suicidal nuts of dying culture.
Taxes are also so high (for middle class) because big companies and rich people are paying less and less. Also people not having children is partially cultural, partially due to companies penalizing having children. Uncertainty in work market, not stable jobs. But that late capitalism issue, lets move to the next question. For example in Spain up to 50% of all country spending will be dedicated to old in retirement in recent future, and you saying that all the problem is due to foreigners? Ok, let me doubt. That being said, EU must regulate migration, what happened for example in 2015 has cost european taxpayers billions of euro. If happyflower people like Greta want to save the world, they can do it but with their own money not everyone money.
Multinationals appear to pay a majority of the UK's corp tax revenue. But you have a point; it is falling.
The top 1% of income taxpayers in the UK pay around 30% of total income tax revenue.
The 10% of income taxpayers with the largest incomes contribute over 60% of income tax receipts.
IDK if these are rising or falling.
Spain has a huge youth unemployment problem. The companies need to be starved of foreigners and start appealing to native Spaniards.
I will not speak about specifically UK because dont know, but in case of United States effective corporate tax rate today is like only 30-50% of what it was in 50s. Which is kinda hilarious if you think, mythic ideal for USA conservatives, the 50s, and yet their way to get there again is through less and less taxes for riches. Im doubt those numbers of effective corporate tax falling is different in other countries, perhaps with different percentages, but the direction remain neverthless.
Spain is reaching its lowest point in general unemployment which by other western countries is high regardless, in 2007 in full construction bubble there was like 8% of unemployment. My opinion, its a cultural thing, picaresca if you will. Hidden economy is huge, there are tons of spaniard who dont want to work, and state dont let them stay behind. In fact one of the problem Spain construction are facing right know is that there no are skilled workers for constructions. Lot of thay young unemployment are ni ni, person who dont want work neither wanted study earlier. Last not least Spain has never so many people working as in 2025, state never collected so much and yet debt keeping grow. It is impossible for a country to have a future if most of It spending will be destinated to retirement people which by 2025 already on average are more rich due to owning homes that young that have to pay 2/3 of their income to rent, in many cases to those same older in retirement. And that the point of question which you omitted. System when designed, was thought to opposite demographical situation we will face in near future.
Delusional as hell? If you say so. Glad I have another passport for when things really go to hell!!
Outbred by people who choose to have more children, despite facing the same economic situation.
The same economic situation????! lol okay 👌🏻
Thats untrue, 1-2 children per family has only been the norm the last 30 or so years, both my parents are white and come from a family of 6 and 7 respectivly
Well let's hope that this doesn't turn into a Civil War in the future. No one wants that
Of course it will eventually.
actually one side does. they're currently building their army up.
Because the system is propped up in such a way that the indigenous population is too busy working to afford life, making it extremely hard to plan, fund the birth of children, but also care for it.
The imported population doesn't have this problem because they mostly live on benefits and can just pump unlimited kids and they're home all day to care for their offsprings. Their belief system is also less individualistic and more community oriented, which isn't the case for the indigenous people, as their self-perception has been moulded into free floating, atomised individuals for the past 80 years.
The more kids the more government allowance is given to the imported families, paid for by the indigenous families's tax contributions. The imported population also doesn't concern themselves with consequences and long term concerns like climatic impact, security, education etc.
It's literally a vicious circle. We are forced to fund our replacement. The only way to break the loop is a complete and total Remigration. ALL non-indigenous, non-Europeans must be remigrated to their country of origin, so that the indigenous population can develop at it's own pace on it's own land, and leverage technology to compensate the lower birth rates (automation, robotics, AI), but also relieve the pressure on the system (healthcare, housing, employment, infrastructure congestion) to facilitate the creation of indigenous families and births. A moratorium on our belief system will also be needed to adjust expectations and recreate the social tissue that has been lost.
100% this, total remigration is necessary and is an ethical obligation.
How can this be accomplished? From legal point of view?
There it two way this might be achieved.
If a civil conflict erupt, the different groups will fight for domination over the land and will impose their way of life. By creating a new government, they can do whatever they want.
Assuming the current system, it varies depending on the country. Some countries are extremely entrenched with counter powers that will contest, slow or flat out repudiate any decisions. Germany and France are such cases.
I will take France as an example because that's what I'm most familiar with. The powers that be have set up an extremely convoluted system with now outdated entities that has been entrusted with illegitimate power. For example, the Conseil d'État and Conseil constitutionnel, which are unremovable, unelected (seated by itself and the president), undemocratic bottlenecks that will shut down legislation being passed by the National Assembly if they wish to. So if you elect representatives and they legislate a text and pass it, there is no guarantee it will be made into law. Then you have the problem of the judiciary, similar to the USA, who can be a thorn because of the corruption with ideologically compromised judges. A referendum is a way to bypass most of that and push legislation, but the population need to be united.
For the UK it's another matter, and it's probably the country with the higher chance of success in steering their country back without bloodshed. Their parliament is sovereign, so once they elect the correct representatives in a majority, and put everything they want to do in their manifesto, they can repeal any text and create any law.
Before any of this, countries will have to get rid of the supranational entities that will prevent them being sovereign. For France it means an exit from the EU, as there is no way to opt-out of the ECHR without a potential article 7 trigger of the EU charter. For the UK they will have to repeal ECHR and Humans Rights Act and many others texts.
I have excluded the possibility of internal reform of the European Union because I do not believe this is feasible, especially with 27 countries inside, veto power and the amount of time left before losing the complete control of our nations. This would be akin to waiting for all of the planets in the solar system perfectly align at the same time, no point in entertaining such thought.
Now as to what law you could pass? You could redefine in the constitution what being a citizen mean, by specifying a citizen must have ancestry to the country or the continent to pretend to citizenship. You would have to revoke any citizenship from 1945 onwards not meeting this criteria, with a case by case re-examination for people who cannot prove ancestry or solid ties to the soil. If you can't prove any of this, you could grace people if they provide DNA test results that has enough markers that meet the desired criteria for eligibility. Then, when you have defined this, you can start remigrating the people that are no longer eligible to stay here. You can ask them nicely so they can leave in their own terms, or you can leverage the power of the state, including seizing goods and properties.
It sounds extreme and a bit dystopian, I can understand that, but the alternative is the disappearance of the indigenous European population. This is the consequence of 50 years of laissez-faire and inaction, indifference and in some cases, flat out malice.
I don't think it'll be as easy in the UK as you say. Most people are citizens - and that citizenship cannot be removed except in extreme circumstances, including international law requirements to not make someone stateless.
Foreign countries can easily wipe the "eligibility" for ancestral citizenship, leaving the people you want to remove with only UK citizenship and no eligibility anywhere else.
Most of the non indigenous imports already have a nationality due to how blood ties work with their country. They have double citizenship in most cases, this is a non issue.Â
I don’t see why their home country would change their system just to piss off the UK and marginalise their own ethnic groups and disenfranchise them of their homeland.
For the very small subset that don’t, we can brainstorm solutions when the bulk of them have gone.
Partly right, but it doesn't help if governments are giving free housing to migrants while local population has to keep living at their parents because the housing market is broken.
Yeah it’s up to outsiders to GTFO and copulate in their own countries.
Birth rates are DIRECTLY linked to female empowerment.
Why do we not have children? Because white men people don't slap their women around when they don't wanna get pregnant
It's illegal in Belgium to separate people based on the color of their skin. Our pensions + social security have a huge cost, which means among the highest taxes in the world. Combine this with a half of the country being essentially freeloading, means us Flanders people need to work our asses off.
It's expected to dump our kids in daycares for the first few years, then they can go to school. Since emancipation, it's become the norm to work with 2 people. Raising a kid in these conditions is pretty rough, which is why it's not attractive any more.
On the other hand, when living on welfare, it is very practical to get lots of kids, and even spend time raising them.
This is very interesting how it 's become the norm to raise family on obligatory 2 salaries. And no one is protesting.
These people want to raise intelligent cared for humans who receive love, attention, and resources from their parents so they can build a better world. Practically this means having 1-2 kids.Â
You bought 7 cookies yesterday, but while you were sleeping, invaders entered your home and gobbled them all up. Why didn't you eat all the cookies the very moment you bought them?!
You were saving for a home, and you'd saved 25K Euros, but the invaders accessed your account and stole the money. Are you stupid, saving that much money?! Why not simply spend all your money the very moment you get it, to prevent anyone else using it?
Because our ruling cast doesn't want us to have children.
It’s up to them to stop having children one after another.
Why should we have to compete a B d have bc a breeding war with people who shouldn’t even be here in the first place
"It's up to you to Populate your countries not outsiders"
Exactly. It's why the reasonable solution is to send outsiders back to their homeland.
You think these types of people are getting laid? They're spending far too much time frothing over immigrants for such things
Absolute insanity.
The youth demographics are the future, too, they’re the ones going to be having the kids as the older people past 40 just wait to die off.
How does that even happen so quickly?
Leftism and naive mentality of 'everyone is equal, thus we should accept anyone no matter what' without taking in consideration the background of their culture. It's a form of Stockholm syndrome
Brussels, Malmo, Paris, Rotterdam, London, Rome, Birmingham and Stockholm syndromeÂ
Add Lisbon plsÂ
What about Madrid? Rome is pretty bad, I'm quite sure about that.
They believe humans are interchangeable and that 100 white westerners are identical to 100 Somalians. Absolute delusion
Yes. This stat basically shows what the population of Brussels will be like in 60 years. It will take 30 years for 30% of the older indigenous brussel to die off, and then another 30 years for another 30% doe die of old age. The result is already set in stone basically, this cant be changed no more
Once again, genocide. Belgia is pretty much already dead.
Everyone responsible for this deserve to be remembered for exactly what they did.
*...and to meet the same fate.
Al Belgiumus
Greetings from the United German Emirates to the Islamic State of Belgium!
Treason of the Belgian people by their own government, the liberal elites will just move to nicer neighborhoods / city districts, up to the point where shit hits the fan, and then they'll just leave the state, leaving an Islamic hell hole behind which they fought to dig.
They are cooked
Home of the EU, what a surprise. There is nothing worse than being replaced.
I wonder what the calculation is for Belgium:
* Land Area
* Total Population
* Consumption
* Biocapacity (what the land used uses eg food materials energy)
* Ecological Impact (footprint) = Population x consumption x technology
OR more elegantly:
EF = Consumption / Yield (vs Biocapacity)
If one were to calculate a sustainable Belgium what population size should it go for and it seems it is too high and overshooting then why is increasing the population via immigration employed?
Gdp
Well it was nice knowing you, the rest of us will follow quite soon most likely
Provided our nations survive this, the generations of the future are going to have the most absolute fun in history class, marvelling at how retardedly suicidal we became. I can only hope they read about our leaders with the necessary levels of scorn, derision, and hatred at the idea that the prospect of their very existence was being sold down the river for reasons of needless guilt, economic hoodwinking, and shameless clout seeking.
Perfect back to back posts on my feed
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That would be when the fire nation attacks!
Explain
Welcome to Belgistan... maybe it's time to move the European capital of Europe somewhere... european? Any city in Poland or CZ will be a good candidate I guess !
Europe is in the middle of committing suicide it’s crazy. And then they wag finger at countries doing something about Muslim problem like when USA slows down Islamic immigration and when Israel fights terror. Absurdity.
In Sweden it's "only" 40%, yet people always talk about us and very rarely about Belgium. Then again, Belgians aren't on the internet whining about it all the time
what type of visa programs are they using to enter and stay? as an american citizen immigrating to europe is difficult, not sure how they do it.
My educated guess: first generation might have been from former colonies, and then they kept breeding - some mixing with locals -; by marriage, or time, they got Belgian citizenship and stayed, while passing down their tribal and parasitical worldview to new generations.
Those who gained citizenship, who may also have got here through asylum, can then exploit very generous family reunification and welfare policies, to increase the influx of members of their race to leech off the taxpayers’ money.
Then, after they have infested societies, they breed and multiply while living on welfare, undeclared work and crime.
How is this not genocide
I'm sure an Austrian painter spoke about something like this happening