Afd is unbelievably weird. How do these people not see that the interests of Germany are diametrically opposed to those of Russia?
These polls confirm my biases. Bardella would basically be Meloni. Farage is just Tories with different branding. AfD however, they are the real outliers, they are really really unhinged.
Seriously 🙄 I have an acquaintance from Uni who is from Saarland, he genuinely believes AfD tries what’s good for the country and repeats Weidel’s rhetoric word by word without actually thinking about it. Scary part is he’s 26 and aerospace engineer. I’m an international student and he has the nerve to say “International students always leave, at least that’s my experience, people I know always left” to my face while I’m literally staying. One day I said “who do you know that left?” and he couldn’t name one person.
They’re literally retarded. At least the NPD nazis were idiots who were patriotic for germany. Afd is another level altogether as they’re simping for russia and billionaires
Especially weird since every year during the may 9th celebrations people in russia constantly repeat "to Berlin" and are even starting to push this idea as relevant today too. Like this is such a one sided relationship - the russians dont like them but the afd voters for some reason believe the opposite. Same goes for rightwingers in america. Both germany and america are despised in russia no matter which part is currently in power
They might as well, because authoritarians lie, if they don’t use the tools while they have majority control, the fascist will use it on them gleefully. They just see people as means to ends.
Because this poll post is very misleading, read the fine print. This poll is about Europeans trusting Putin can be made to do the right thing. Naivity ? Yes Stupid ? Possibly. But not support. If you open the link the person provided there is a very clear dislike towards Russia even in "supporting" countries.
I am not saying it is not a problem, I am just saying this post cherry picked the worst poll (cause even with the numbers I am not sure about their validity, I have seen others with contradictory stats)
There are millions of those and their descendants alone, virtually all of them having long returned to Germany, yet not necessarily home. Never quite fitting in, they are sorry, walking dillemas in search of themselves, impossible, torn identities (non-Western, but still non-Slavic, somewhat like the funky Hungarians) mortally opposed to what is actually theirs and what they're supposed to cherish. For various sociocultural reasons they traditionally always voted as right-wing conservative as was then mainstream possible. Now, with few exceptions, they vote total opposition, which is AfD.
Another aspect to consider is that Germany is also special, and especially compared to France or the UK, in the sense that its traditional right wing didn't even need to collapse, or was simply replaced by far-right in any remotely comparable sense. Rather they're still the strongest bloc! In other words, Germany is politically so right that both camps are doing well at the same time, and there's enough voter potential to keep both happy, if competing. But since they're nearly identical on domestic positions, it practically forces the newer party to define and justify itself in other areas, of which there's really only Europe and foreign policy.
How do these people not see that the interests of Germany are diametrically opposed to those of Russia?
Tell them. However chances are you're better understood speaking Russian than English.
It's really bizzare how German and Austrian far right jumps out compared to other Western European countries in this regard. There are some obvious reasons, but a lot of other W. European countries have their "reasons" too. Perhaps in France or Italy support for Putin/Russia is more evenly distributed across right and left (especially when in other poll you see how support for Russia is low in German society as a whole in comparison). While in Germany, contrary to what this sub says, nobody on the left likes Putin, the left party is just delusional in its anti-militaristic stance, but it's not the same as the outright simping for the man.
I don't even know what the obvious reasons would be for Austria, other than THE party is heavily sponsored by Russia. Or maybe you mean that is the obvious reason.
Yeah i primarily meant the DDR as the obvious one, but Austria doesn't have it. But Austria on the whole also had some kind of soft "non-aligned" thing going on on the level of whole country, while FRG was more staunchly and explicitly western-aligned. So that probably influenced views of many people from that era. It's still crazy and in no way an understandable excuse though.
Decades of bullshitting oneself on being a neutral link to the east, going back to Soviet times. Russian money was always welcome. Helping them.circumvent trade embargoes goes back a long time.
And Austria is incapable of having a realistic discourse on foreign politics - we lost that know how or do not let people speak out due to them being inconvenient. Austrian foreign affairs are run by spineless sycophants.
The FPÖ just had to pick up the self serving arguments others dropped in 2022.
One reason why the AfD is just so deranged on Russia is the cordon sanitaire held up by the other parties.
They know they won't be part of any government unless they gain the absolute majority. Therefore there is no reason for them to water down their pro-Russia stance even a little bit (so that they would become more "coalitionable" for the other parties).
Well, this is the poll of common people, not the party members.
I know there would be a lot of pressure within AfD to soften this stance if they were actually considered coalitionable by CDU, but there is already some pressure about that within the party. I hear Rüdiger Lucassen is the leading voice of pro-NATO advocants - the same guy who talked on Twitter about how proud he is of his father for being one of the parstroopers who jumped on Crete, citing a quote that called them "the flower of German manhood".
She does, but many hardly count her as a left. She is unironically friendlier and has more in common with AfD than Linke . They are already talking about being potentially open to a coalition with AfD. Their own messaging only talks about NATO and Putin and to me it looks like they frankly don't care about their "leftism" much because if they did, they'd completely exclude any talks with AfD, which is far right economically as well as socially. Only respect in which they could agree are massive pensions (which AfD promises to fund with cancelling of Bürgergeld and "left-green lunacy", which may just be enough since that is the vote-buyer).
I think in the Netherlands you’d see very different results if the party they looked at was Forum for Democracy (don’t let the names of these parties fool you…) Party for Freedom isn’t really associated with Russia the same way the AfD is—that’s not to say there are no links, but it’s less overt; FvD is far more positive about Russia and I suspect its supporters are too.
For a ‘fun’ comparison: when Zelensky gave a speech in our house of representatives, the members of the PVV clapped, while the members of the FvD boycotted the event.
Of course FvD is a far smaller party, so it’s still a difference with Germany and Austria, but the fact that we have multiple far-right parties with varying views on Russia is bound to affect the results in a study like this.
This looks wrong for Germany. The AfD are polling in first place at 26% and half of their supporters are pro-Russia. That's already far more than the stated 4% support for Putin. Then you've got some factions of the German left as well, particularly in BSW.
For German society as a whole, I think 14% is more realistic than 4%. I wouldn't be surprised if this was an error.
That's not entirely true. The pro Russia wing of the left party created a new party but failed to gather enough votes to be in the Bundestag. That in turn made the left party a lot more popular for many people because the tankies were gone. Now you have a left party that is not pro Russia but anti-militaristic while in other countries the pro Russia folk is still part of the main left party.
I mean technically you are correct but BSW's leftism is very superficial and not emphasised. I do not think they are comparable to even someone like Melenchon. Iirc Wagenknecht herself refused to clearly define herself as left. And they are most open to cooperation with AfD too, speaking against the firewall. I think it is not all that unlikely they will be AfD's partner in Sachsen Anhalt next year...
But yes, if the split did not happen, Germany's left would be lot more pro-Russian.
Given how many people are nowadays supporting or even just justifying/defending AfD, i find this too scary to be ready to fully believe it. I also think rightwing in general is stronger in virtually any Slavic/East European country than in Germany. Definitely i think you are correct regarding the hardcore extremists though and it is also very cultural especially in areas like Saxony. And most Germans do not want to admit this, including lot of the left.
Propably yes, in poland there is a lot of people that blame zsrr wrongdoing on the ukrainians belarusians etc., so it was not russia we need to worry about. Thats one of main talking point of russians lovers
No, there isn't "a lot of people" in Poland that think like that. On the contrary, there is a lot of people that think that "soviet union" and "russia" are the same thing. Our right wingers claim things like "Putin want USSR back" when it is not true - he want russian empire back, and he blames USSR (especially Lenin) for "creating" Ukraine. My Ukrainian friend was quite annoyed when people called russian army "red army" in context of russo-ukrainian war, because his ukrainian grandpa was in red army and he was among those that won battle of Berlin.
To a part surely, the party growing from there originally heavily influenced its stance on this. But by now it's far too large for this support to be explainable on East alone (only 1/8th of the country's population). Also, Austria has an even worse problem in this regard, despite not being formally divided. It's probably a mix of factors - but i think in Germany Putin/Russia lovers are heavily concentrated on the far right as opposed to for example France/Italy. Look at how the % for Putin support among those who dislike the far right is also very low in Germany compared to other countries.
Tbh, i think that correlates with support for AfD better than DDR nostalgia, especially since the share of Germans that actually spent meaningful years in DDR is at this point quite low (even if you are 50 now, you were barely a teenager when DDR ended). Notice how Putin is actually more popular among the middle aged than the old. AfD is also at its strongest with middle aged. It's definitely interesting how few youngsters here support Putin though and i'm not sure why.
I Danmark føler jeg især, at unge mænd, der konventerer til ortodoks kristendom, i høj grad sympatiserer med Rusland. Man oplever det især i København.
Bizarre comment. Putin is a piece of shit and the invasion is wrong, but resorting to this weird xenophobic dehumanization (Germans with Russian roots “not really citizens and shouldn’t be able to participate in civil society society and should be treated with suspicion and disdain on account of their race” childish and increasingly unsettling censoring of the word Russian) to refer to normal people who happen to have Russian heritage is really gross and doesn’t help the Ukrainian cause or the Ukrainian people, it’s just off putting to people and makes die hard NAFO types seem belligerently, ideologically hostile to normal Russian people on account of their ethnicity alone.
I mean Ukraine mostly votes against India in UN. Ukraine also sold lots of weapons to Pakistan. Russia having UN veto votes for India. And while Russia sold some weapons to Pakistan too they sold much more to India including tech to produce them locally
Slovakian leftwing Social Democracy party, with Fico as the head is missing because this poll was only about "right-wing populists", as to why there's no Finns listed... who's to say. They must've forgot we're in Europe.
Regarding Greece and the situation here, the president of that thing (party isn't a fitting description) called Greek Solution, used to sell "original letter from Jesus Christ" (that was his best moment) and some organic creams to fight baldness. There was a minor problem. He has baldness himself.
He is one of a kind (ok, not that strange for a right wing leader)
He was screaming nazi slurs against Germany ...but he has his life saving there.
And OBVIOUSLY he is pro Russia, many people say that he is directly connected to Kremlin funds.
Uh... I remember times when right wing was hard anty Russia no matter what. I remember how our history teacher show us songs like idźmy bijmy Moskali. Future is Fu on do many levels
What right wing? If you mean "PiS' then they are still antirussian. If you mean "konfederacja" (and before them - ruch narodowy, LPR, KNP, UPR) than no, they were never antirussian in the context of polish politics.
By accusation you mean he made a complete farce out of it and thus public opinion doubt that russians were ever involved?
Or perhaps you forgot that he published list of our officers and agents thus jeopardized our operations and safety of those agents?
Or maybe that this raport he published was requested by him do be done in russian before it was officially published in polish what was never explained by him?
Or maybe when he broke into our NATO headquarters in 2015 during night to take over building and documents for reasons that he never explained?
I'm not talking about political parties, back in the school before neostrada was a thing we learned about history, we see dress pod blokiem and right wing back then had healthy attitude to russia. I was not into politics back then but cmon it was not that crazy like it is today.
It's both extremes, you can literally see this in every European Parliament vote regarding Russia. The only ones voting always in support of Russia are the Far Right and the Far Left.
This is how I see the political spectrum: equality ← center → hierarchy.
So it makes sense that all far-right ideologies are authoritarian, since the stronger the hierarchies are, the less power people at the bottom have and the more power those at the top do.
And the post’s data reflects that way of thinking.
Not really true is it now? Like the Reform, Vox and FN supporters all hate Putin more than the average Greek for example?!
Only valid for those paid by Russia, like AfD and Fidesz.
?? This image only shows far-right parties, not all right-wing parties, and even still most of the voters of these far-right parties have a low approval rating for Putin, only slightly higher than other voters.
Lots of leftists in Greece have a good opinion of Putin. Russia is seen by the far right as orthodox brothers standing up against western globalism and new world order while by the far left its seen as a power standing up against western imperialism . It also helps that Russia is the successor of the USSR .
Greece always had a soft spot for Russia , though unwarranted. The most popular party during the early years of the Greek state was the Russian party
Yes, it is really bad. Every problem is blamed at Europe. There is a huge problem in the greek mentality. Most europeans can not see it, but me, as a grecobulgarian who lived in many eupopean countries, I can compare with many countries. There is something really wrong with greek mentality, no matter the ideology. When retirement issues hits, expect real turmoil and probably Grexit since 70% will blame the West and europe.
It's a common opinion that Greece was allowed to join the EU way too soon. I don't think a Grexit would be met with very much resistance from the other members.
When Russia attacks EU/NATO directly like Ukraine, their positive views might even grow. Sounds like nonsense but their disinformation campaign (which will intensify 100x during the full-scale war) works perfectly on people without critical thinking.
The Sweden Democrat's leader warned of Russian aggression in 2013. In the same speech he addressed the demilitarization (Swedish). He makes a lot of good point in this video. Saying, among other things that even if there is no threat today (again, he said this in 2013), what about 10-20 years from now?
And here we are 12-13 years later..
All this to say, I don't think SD as a party is particularly fond of Putin or Russia.
This is hardly surprising though since Russia has been Swedens arch enemy since at least the mid 17th century.
The Sweden Democrats are barely any better than the other parties on this list for many reasons, most relevant for this subreddit is that they are anti EU and several of the founders were nazis.
I never really put much weight on the whole left and right thing. I've seen it argued that Hitler was far right and Stalin was far left. Neither was a good person. Extremes are bad no matter where they place on the political spectrum in my opinion. Or any ideological spectrum for that matter.
If they are Nazi that means over 30% of Swedes are also Nazi. Which isn't true in my experience. They may have been founded by people with those leanings but the left party (vänsterpartiet) used to be called "the left party, the communists". And then they sit and call SD Nazis. If they don't identify as communist anymore because the party evolved, why do they assume SD hasn't evolved?
It is true party members have been caught up doing nazi stuff (and thrown out for it) but I think one needs to distinguish between party policy and the people who vote for them.
There is a saying about SD. "Not every SD voter is a nazi but all Nazis are SD voters". The reason for this, I think, is the fact that they are far enough right to appeal to those kind of people.
The openly racist/Nazi super far right is so small they will never reach the 4% vote count cut off to get any seats in government, so I suspect they feel voting SD is the next best thing.
Yeah, I was specifically pointing to the founders that the last comment did. I thought you meant that you didn’t care if people were nazis as long as they were good dudes.
"When I was young and lived in the DDR, I could drink all night without getting a hangover, women were interested in me, I had a secure career at the local Trabant factory, there weren't any of these immigrants and gays making me feel uncomfortable, and my penis worked. Now I'm old and living in a reunified Germany, none of those things are true. So what's the solution? Bring back the Russians, of course!"
We have the "During Czechoslovakia, We didn't have to work half the time so we just got drunk at work and stole flour/steel/anything from my workplace and used in bargaining for other goods". They straight up built whole houses from the stolen building material for example lol. Or exchanged meat for western jeans.
Oh and also, the young couldnt leave, so it was kind of bustling with life. The poorer regions today are only filled with bitter, old people.
Fuck this. I never lived under the GDR/USSR, but holyfuck, I would rather killing myself than living under such system. I don't think any sane person would want that.
So, naturally, I was thinking that the ones who want and understand that the most, are the ones who tasted it. But I guess some slaves never can see past their salvery and understand what freedom truly is.
I have a online friend that is openly racist in many ways, at least culturally. He hates Putin with a passion, BECAUSE the friend cares about the country. True nationalists should hate Putin even more than most parties.
It wouldn’t be the first time. Once Hitler literally said in a speech “the friendship between Poland and Germany is one of the reassuring aspects of today’s Europe”. He was having polite chats with Polish officials at that time. Six months later he was threatening to invade…
I don't believe 10% the people in the UK who don't have a positive view of Reform, have a positive view of Putin. It also shows that more non right wing Greeks have a more positive view than right wing Britons.
I don't know, there are still some people on the left who have a somewhat ambiguous attitude towards Russia and Putin, whether because of ideological inertia from the "good old days" of the USSR, or because they oppose the USA and NATO and support Russia as an "enemy of an enemy".
It's statistic about possible voters. 58% of those who have positive view of fidesz love what Putin does. But apart from Hungarian, Germany and Greek(and let's be fair, those are real Russian gas/other things lover countries) other countries far right "possible voters" (because it's those who think that far right party is positive, not those who would vote for those) negative view of Putin is >50% to 91% even amongst "far right Putin parties". Feel free to down vote me to hell, but I'm saying you see two metrics in this graph but graph is framed - real problem is that 32% of far right party haters in Greece love Putin, not that 91% of far right lovers hate Putin is higher number than 96% far right haters hating Putin in Sweden. This statistic purely shows that Greeks are Putin ass lickers. Critical thinking brought to you by: MSc in statistics
I would love someone to explain to me, how Putin, self proclaimed defender of EU against nazism in UA and whole Europe... is also so popular for those said far-right parties? I get that he is sponsoring them, they all are pro russian but like.. by his own logic next step of cleaning europe would be Slovakia. Hungary.. germany because of Afd? And yet they praise him? Look up to him? Vote against their own interest for sake of russias interest?
Whaaaat?! No! You dont say! How, just how can it be that right wing isolationists in favour of breaking up the EU into small bite sized chunks could also be in favour of the person promoting the banquets! Thats crazy talk!
Here in Ireland, we have a party called people before profit. They complain constantly about spending money on defence and think giving Ukraine weapons is a disgrace.
Even our newly elected president compared modern Germany re arming to 1930s Germany and thinks Putin can be deterred through "peace".
She said the Salisbury poisoning had to be taken into context of the actions of Nato.
The far left support Putin far more than the far right.
Is the remaining % after positive and negative the Don't Knows/neutral etc.?
If so, I find it hard to believe that Putin, being such a polarising figure, would have such a high proportion of Don't Knows in places like UK, Netherlands, Italy, Spain etc.
What’s the story with German righties being way more pro-Putin than the likes of Italy or France? Some sort of holdover from East Germany? Or they just really miss cheap gas?
Far-rights think that Russia is a Christian White Nationalist traditional values paradise for some reason (reason: Russian propaganda for the stupidest)
Could you clarify what the green data points mean? I'm assuming it's the percentage from the right-wing populist parties (i..e Fidesz, Reform, AfD, etc.) who support Russia, but it's not clear from the title or the graphic.
Greeks have traditionally viewed the Russians and other orthodox nations like the Serbs as strong allies. The religious far right also clings to some "prophecy" that Constantinople will be liberated with the help of the Russians.
Unfortunately this makes them too blind to see that things are changing and some political lines are not to be followed dogmatically.
People take advice from the trash can, haha!
Whatever he says is complete nonsense.
His recipe for propaganda is 1-20% truth mixed with all kinds of nonsense that comes to mind to serve his own interests.
And people still go for his stupidity after so many years of in-the-face-blood.
The ones in charge, I can see them doing that for the money. They're leeches and cronies after all. Their average voter, not so much. It has been an historical theme for the Spanish right to despise Russia, and recent events do not exactly help to change that view.
You can believe in the rule of law, stopping immigration, kicking out immigrants and at the same time believe that Russia is the greatest threat thus far in the 21st century to European security. All of the positive aspects of Russian society only exist in propaganda anyway. Sanctity of marriage in Russia is in shambles, the people is not particularly christian and corruption is off the charts.
It truly disgusts me that SO many older Hungarians are pro-Russia. These dumbasses lived under Russian oppression from roughly 1945- 1989! Soviet troops didn’t leave until 1991!
I know, i corrected as i said in the edit but still is not even populist anymore, lega and fdi? absolutely, but forza italia its just generic conservatives in 2025, the populism in it basically died with Berlusconi
Because there's like 3-4 other pro Russia parties from the far left and far right.
A big communist/stalinist party 'KKE' has historically attacked the liberal reforms of Ukraine and is super anti-NATO/EU.
Varoufakis has always done Russian propaganda and bashes Zelenskyy even this week on Twitter. During his minister term he wanted Greece to loan from Russia instead of the EU.
And maybe a few Orthodox boomers see an alliance through faith.
Unfortunately, many Greeks still support Russia and believe that Putin will save us even to this day, by both the far right and the far left. Russian propaganda is more prevalent in Greece compared to other European countries.
Afd is unbelievably weird. How do these people not see that the interests of Germany are diametrically opposed to those of Russia?
These polls confirm my biases. Bardella would basically be Meloni. Farage is just Tories with different branding. AfD however, they are the real outliers, they are really really unhinged.
You talk as AfD make the interests of Germany...
Well, if you don’t know yet: AfD and its voters sharing a braincell, thats why.
Seriously 🙄 I have an acquaintance from Uni who is from Saarland, he genuinely believes AfD tries what’s good for the country and repeats Weidel’s rhetoric word by word without actually thinking about it. Scary part is he’s 26 and aerospace engineer. I’m an international student and he has the nerve to say “International students always leave, at least that’s my experience, people I know always left” to my face while I’m literally staying. One day I said “who do you know that left?” and he couldn’t name one person.
what kind of argument is that anyway? "We need the xenophobic AFD so we can retain international talent" Doesn't make ANY sense.
Right? They don’t think, that’s the issue 🤣
Nobody can leave if nobody comes in the first place.
The fact AFD still stands after what happened in Germany is crazy
And Afd will win next election if the current economic downturn continues.
Not sure why you are being downvoted. This is reality of populism.
We in Germany should’ve been nuked for good measure..
Its hardly only affects Germany in the next 3 years we will see the fate of Europe/democracy
Lmao of COURSE he's from Saarland :DDDD
They’re literally retarded. At least the NPD nazis were idiots who were patriotic for germany. Afd is another level altogether as they’re simping for russia and billionaires
Especially weird since every year during the may 9th celebrations people in russia constantly repeat "to Berlin" and are even starting to push this idea as relevant today too. Like this is such a one sided relationship - the russians dont like them but the afd voters for some reason believe the opposite. Same goes for rightwingers in america. Both germany and america are despised in russia no matter which part is currently in power
I mean...yeah they pick to identify with the most destructive political party their own country ever produced. They are not very smart. Or good
most destructive party germany ever produced?
Bardella gave an interview in England to say that he is close to Trump. 😱
germany should ban them so maybe it doesnt have to be the bad guy for a third world war.
If Germany banned pro-Russian parties then they would only be left with the FDP and Greens.
They might as well, because authoritarians lie, if they don’t use the tools while they have majority control, the fascist will use it on them gleefully. They just see people as means to ends.
then we'd have a better country lol
I wouldn't say no to an FDP majority 😎
Because this poll post is very misleading, read the fine print. This poll is about Europeans trusting Putin can be made to do the right thing. Naivity ? Yes Stupid ? Possibly. But not support. If you open the link the person provided there is a very clear dislike towards Russia even in "supporting" countries.
I am not saying it is not a problem, I am just saying this post cherry picked the worst poll (cause even with the numbers I am not sure about their validity, I have seen others with contradictory stats)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia_Germans
There are millions of those and their descendants alone, virtually all of them having long returned to Germany, yet not necessarily home. Never quite fitting in, they are sorry, walking dillemas in search of themselves, impossible, torn identities (non-Western, but still non-Slavic, somewhat like the funky Hungarians) mortally opposed to what is actually theirs and what they're supposed to cherish. For various sociocultural reasons they traditionally always voted as right-wing conservative as was then mainstream possible. Now, with few exceptions, they vote total opposition, which is AfD.
Another aspect to consider is that Germany is also special, and especially compared to France or the UK, in the sense that its traditional right wing didn't even need to collapse, or was simply replaced by far-right in any remotely comparable sense. Rather they're still the strongest bloc! In other words, Germany is politically so right that both camps are doing well at the same time, and there's enough voter potential to keep both happy, if competing. But since they're nearly identical on domestic positions, it practically forces the newer party to define and justify itself in other areas, of which there's really only Europe and foreign policy.
Tell them. However chances are you're better understood speaking Russian than English.
Thanks for leaving us out, really appreciate not having to face the current state of affairs.
It's really bizzare how German and Austrian far right jumps out compared to other Western European countries in this regard. There are some obvious reasons, but a lot of other W. European countries have their "reasons" too. Perhaps in France or Italy support for Putin/Russia is more evenly distributed across right and left (especially when in other poll you see how support for Russia is low in German society as a whole in comparison). While in Germany, contrary to what this sub says, nobody on the left likes Putin, the left party is just delusional in its anti-militaristic stance, but it's not the same as the outright simping for the man.
I don't even know what the obvious reasons would be for Austria, other than THE party is heavily sponsored by Russia. Or maybe you mean that is the obvious reason.
Yeah i primarily meant the DDR as the obvious one, but Austria doesn't have it. But Austria on the whole also had some kind of soft "non-aligned" thing going on on the level of whole country, while FRG was more staunchly and explicitly western-aligned. So that probably influenced views of many people from that era. It's still crazy and in no way an understandable excuse though.
Decades of bullshitting oneself on being a neutral link to the east, going back to Soviet times. Russian money was always welcome. Helping them.circumvent trade embargoes goes back a long time.
And Austria is incapable of having a realistic discourse on foreign politics - we lost that know how or do not let people speak out due to them being inconvenient. Austrian foreign affairs are run by spineless sycophants.
The FPÖ just had to pick up the self serving arguments others dropped in 2022.
One reason why the AfD is just so deranged on Russia is the cordon sanitaire held up by the other parties.
They know they won't be part of any government unless they gain the absolute majority. Therefore there is no reason for them to water down their pro-Russia stance even a little bit (so that they would become more "coalitionable" for the other parties).
Well, this is the poll of common people, not the party members.
I know there would be a lot of pressure within AfD to soften this stance if they were actually considered coalitionable by CDU, but there is already some pressure about that within the party. I hear Rüdiger Lucassen is the leading voice of pro-NATO advocants - the same guy who talked on Twitter about how proud he is of his father for being one of the parstroopers who jumped on Crete, citing a quote that called them "the flower of German manhood".
Im sorry but Wagenknecht simps for the monster.
If what she does fr putin doesnt count as simping then i dont see why we would count what melechon does as simping
She does, but many hardly count her as a left. She is unironically friendlier and has more in common with AfD than Linke . They are already talking about being potentially open to a coalition with AfD. Their own messaging only talks about NATO and Putin and to me it looks like they frankly don't care about their "leftism" much because if they did, they'd completely exclude any talks with AfD, which is far right economically as well as socially. Only respect in which they could agree are massive pensions (which AfD promises to fund with cancelling of Bürgergeld and "left-green lunacy", which may just be enough since that is the vote-buyer).
I think in the Netherlands you’d see very different results if the party they looked at was Forum for Democracy (don’t let the names of these parties fool you…) Party for Freedom isn’t really associated with Russia the same way the AfD is—that’s not to say there are no links, but it’s less overt; FvD is far more positive about Russia and I suspect its supporters are too.
For a ‘fun’ comparison: when Zelensky gave a speech in our house of representatives, the members of the PVV clapped, while the members of the FvD boycotted the event.
Of course FvD is a far smaller party, so it’s still a difference with Germany and Austria, but the fact that we have multiple far-right parties with varying views on Russia is bound to affect the results in a study like this.
This looks wrong for Germany. The AfD are polling in first place at 26% and half of their supporters are pro-Russia. That's already far more than the stated 4% support for Putin. Then you've got some factions of the German left as well, particularly in BSW.
For German society as a whole, I think 14% is more realistic than 4%. I wouldn't be surprised if this was an error.
That's not entirely true. The pro Russia wing of the left party created a new party but failed to gather enough votes to be in the Bundestag. That in turn made the left party a lot more popular for many people because the tankies were gone. Now you have a left party that is not pro Russia but anti-militaristic while in other countries the pro Russia folk is still part of the main left party.
I mean technically you are correct but BSW's leftism is very superficial and not emphasised. I do not think they are comparable to even someone like Melenchon. Iirc Wagenknecht herself refused to clearly define herself as left. And they are most open to cooperation with AfD too, speaking against the firewall. I think it is not all that unlikely they will be AfD's partner in Sachsen Anhalt next year...
But yes, if the split did not happen, Germany's left would be lot more pro-Russian.
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Given how many people are nowadays supporting or even just justifying/defending AfD, i find this too scary to be ready to fully believe it. I also think rightwing in general is stronger in virtually any Slavic/East European country than in Germany. Definitely i think you are correct regarding the hardcore extremists though and it is also very cultural especially in areas like Saxony. And most Germans do not want to admit this, including lot of the left.
My thoughts exactly 😅
Full poll here for views on Russia too. https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2025/06/23/views-of-russia-and-putin-2025/pg_2025-06-23_global-views-russia-nato_2_01/
I also found it extra interesting how in most countries the young also support Russia bit more than the old, but Germany is the exception despite high support of AfDers - its young have even less favourable views of Russia than young Poles
Do you think this could be because of a part of the older generation in former DDR having sympathies? Just a theory
Propably yes, in poland there is a lot of people that blame zsrr wrongdoing on the ukrainians belarusians etc., so it was not russia we need to worry about. Thats one of main talking point of russians lovers
No, there isn't "a lot of people" in Poland that think like that. On the contrary, there is a lot of people that think that "soviet union" and "russia" are the same thing. Our right wingers claim things like "Putin want USSR back" when it is not true - he want russian empire back, and he blames USSR (especially Lenin) for "creating" Ukraine. My Ukrainian friend was quite annoyed when people called russian army "red army" in context of russo-ukrainian war, because his ukrainian grandpa was in red army and he was among those that won battle of Berlin.
To a part surely, the party growing from there originally heavily influenced its stance on this. But by now it's far too large for this support to be explainable on East alone (only 1/8th of the country's population). Also, Austria has an even worse problem in this regard, despite not being formally divided. It's probably a mix of factors - but i think in Germany Putin/Russia lovers are heavily concentrated on the far right as opposed to for example France/Italy. Look at how the % for Putin support among those who dislike the far right is also very low in Germany compared to other countries.
But I more meant how it is older people in Germany while younger in other countries - considering no young people knew DDR
Tbh, i think that correlates with support for AfD better than DDR nostalgia, especially since the share of Germans that actually spent meaningful years in DDR is at this point quite low (even if you are 50 now, you were barely a teenager when DDR ended). Notice how Putin is actually more popular among the middle aged than the old. AfD is also at its strongest with middle aged. It's definitely interesting how few youngsters here support Putin though and i'm not sure why.
I Danmark føler jeg især, at unge mænd, der konventerer til ortodoks kristendom, i høj grad sympatiserer med Rusland. Man oplever det især i København.
Men hvor mange er der lige af dem?
Or because of 2,5 millions rus*ians living in Germany with voting rights counts?
Bizarre comment. Putin is a piece of shit and the invasion is wrong, but resorting to this weird xenophobic dehumanization (Germans with Russian roots “not really citizens and shouldn’t be able to participate in civil society society and should be treated with suspicion and disdain on account of their race” childish and increasingly unsettling censoring of the word Russian) to refer to normal people who happen to have Russian heritage is really gross and doesn’t help the Ukrainian cause or the Ukrainian people, it’s just off putting to people and makes die hard NAFO types seem belligerently, ideologically hostile to normal Russian people on account of their ethnicity alone.
Yes. Its not just the GDR, its also that the reunification went over smoothly and without the (by many expected) bloodshed.
It's really disappointing how pro-Russian Indians are, or rather, how many Indians support Russia
It's not surprising though. They resent the west
The ussr and india were buddies. Same as why east germany (afd) is pro putin.
And apparently they forget that Ukraine was also in the USSR.
I mean Ukraine mostly votes against India in UN. Ukraine also sold lots of weapons to Pakistan. Russia having UN veto votes for India. And while Russia sold some weapons to Pakistan too they sold much more to India including tech to produce them locally
So then they deserved to be invaded clearly/s
Slovakian leftwing Social Democracy party, with Fico as the head is missing because this poll was only about "right-wing populists", as to why there's no Finns listed... who's to say. They must've forgot we're in Europe.
Regarding Greece and the situation here, the president of that thing (party isn't a fitting description) called Greek Solution, used to sell "original letter from Jesus Christ" (that was his best moment) and some organic creams to fight baldness. There was a minor problem. He has baldness himself.
He is one of a kind (ok, not that strange for a right wing leader)
He was screaming nazi slurs against Germany ...but he has his life saving there.
And OBVIOUSLY he is pro Russia, many people say that he is directly connected to Kremlin funds.
This shouldn't be surprising in the slightest. The Far right has been directly funded and held up to secure Russian interests in Europe.
Uh... I remember times when right wing was hard anty Russia no matter what. I remember how our history teacher show us songs like idźmy bijmy Moskali. Future is Fu on do many levels
What right wing? If you mean "PiS' then they are still antirussian. If you mean "konfederacja" (and before them - ruch narodowy, LPR, KNP, UPR) than no, they were never antirussian in the context of polish politics.
While some of the leadership of PiS is antirussian, they still do lots of things that benefit russian agency.
That said they also have people like Antoni Macierewicz which I would say that he is most likely russian asset.
As of latter, saying that they weren’t antirussian is saying nothing. Many of their current and former members were praising both russia and putin.
Are you talking about the same Macierewicz who accused Russia of organizing the Smolensk air disaster?
By accusation you mean he made a complete farce out of it and thus public opinion doubt that russians were ever involved?
Or perhaps you forgot that he published list of our officers and agents thus jeopardized our operations and safety of those agents?
Or maybe that this raport he published was requested by him do be done in russian before it was officially published in polish what was never explained by him?
Or maybe when he broke into our NATO headquarters in 2015 during night to take over building and documents for reasons that he never explained?
I'm not talking about political parties, back in the school before neostrada was a thing we learned about history, we see dress pod blokiem and right wing back then had healthy attitude to russia. I was not into politics back then but cmon it was not that crazy like it is today.
Eh, Korwin was always pro-Russia and pro-Belarus. And his movement is core basis for current far-right.
It's always the far right and far left. Basically both are funded by Russia non stop.
Divide and conquer.
It's the Russian doctrine.
They play both sides to stir up as much internal disagreement as possible.
No, it's not "both side". Also some centrist parties were funded and supported by russia.
It’s actually both sides, far left-wing is overwhelmingly pro-Russia
I think this varies a lot from country to country. It might be true in Eastern Europe, but not as much in the rest of Europe.
It's both extremes, you can literally see this in every European Parliament vote regarding Russia. The only ones voting always in support of Russia are the Far Right and the Far Left.
Also the far left
We are one outlier maybe. Our Far-Right is disctinctivily Pro-America and funded by them and our far left is the Soviet Commies who dont condem Putin.
It's scary how All the right wings in the world share a similarity - love towards a dictator and war criminal.
Must be a coincidence.
Nuts isn't it
It has always been like that sadly.
It is the logical extreme of right wing ideology.
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This is how I see the political spectrum: equality ← center → hierarchy.
So it makes sense that all far-right ideologies are authoritarian, since the stronger the hierarchies are, the less power people at the bottom have and the more power those at the top do.
And the post’s data reflects that way of thinking.
Not really true is it now? Like the Reform, Vox and FN supporters all hate Putin more than the average Greek for example?! Only valid for those paid by Russia, like AfD and Fidesz.
Yeah, such an unnecessary comment meant to divide. This actually indicate that most on the right wing actually dislike Putin. Let's celebrate that.
?? This image only shows far-right parties, not all right-wing parties, and even still most of the voters of these far-right parties have a low approval rating for Putin, only slightly higher than other voters.
Stop, you'll confuse the echo chamber!
Adorno wrote about it in 1950s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Authoritarian_Personality
No ideology more rootless and cosmopolitan than fascism.
Nah I lean right-wing and I hate Putin. This comment attempts to divide us, playing into Russia's favour
Most people that are pro-Putin here joined FvD instead of the PVV
I think Greece is quite interesting. That a good opinion of Putin isn't only a right wing opinion.
The kind of far left-wing parties in Greece are nonexistent in Denmark. They make Enhedslisten look like capitalist pigs.
Lots of leftists in Greece have a good opinion of Putin. Russia is seen by the far right as orthodox brothers standing up against western globalism and new world order while by the far left its seen as a power standing up against western imperialism . It also helps that Russia is the successor of the USSR .
Greece always had a soft spot for Russia , though unwarranted. The most popular party during the early years of the Greek state was the Russian party
Yes, it is really bad. Every problem is blamed at Europe. There is a huge problem in the greek mentality. Most europeans can not see it, but me, as a grecobulgarian who lived in many eupopean countries, I can compare with many countries. There is something really wrong with greek mentality, no matter the ideology. When retirement issues hits, expect real turmoil and probably Grexit since 70% will blame the West and europe.
It's a common opinion that Greece was allowed to join the EU way too soon. I don't think a Grexit would be met with very much resistance from the other members.
Greeks are currently in stupidity mode. Since 2015
More surprising chart from that research is that young (18-34) have more favourable views of Russia. Often by quite a lot compared to other age brackets. All that social media brainwashing is paying off. In many countries, younger people have more favorable views of Russia than older generations | Pew Research Center
When Russia attacks EU/NATO directly like Ukraine, their positive views might even grow. Sounds like nonsense but their disinformation campaign (which will intensify 100x during the full-scale war) works perfectly on people without critical thinking.
When?
Its really less surprising I'd say. people in that age range are the target of their disinformation campaigns.
Guys, don't worry. The rabid bear won't kill us.
The Sweden Democrat's leader warned of Russian aggression in 2013. In the same speech he addressed the demilitarization (Swedish). He makes a lot of good point in this video. Saying, among other things that even if there is no threat today (again, he said this in 2013), what about 10-20 years from now?
And here we are 12-13 years later..
All this to say, I don't think SD as a party is particularly fond of Putin or Russia.
This is hardly surprising though since Russia has been Swedens arch enemy since at least the mid 17th century.
The Sweden Democrats are barely any better than the other parties on this list for many reasons, most relevant for this subreddit is that they are anti EU and several of the founders were nazis.
I never really put much weight on the whole left and right thing. I've seen it argued that Hitler was far right and Stalin was far left. Neither was a good person. Extremes are bad no matter where they place on the political spectrum in my opinion. Or any ideological spectrum for that matter.
I’m probably misinterpereting, but it sounds like your saying you don’t put much weight on it because they could’ve been founded by ”good-guy-nazis”.
If they are Nazi that means over 30% of Swedes are also Nazi. Which isn't true in my experience. They may have been founded by people with those leanings but the left party (vänsterpartiet) used to be called "the left party, the communists". And then they sit and call SD Nazis. If they don't identify as communist anymore because the party evolved, why do they assume SD hasn't evolved?
It is true party members have been caught up doing nazi stuff (and thrown out for it) but I think one needs to distinguish between party policy and the people who vote for them.
There is a saying about SD. "Not every SD voter is a nazi but all Nazis are SD voters". The reason for this, I think, is the fact that they are far enough right to appeal to those kind of people.
The openly racist/Nazi super far right is so small they will never reach the 4% vote count cut off to get any seats in government, so I suspect they feel voting SD is the next best thing.
Yeah, I was specifically pointing to the founders that the last comment did. I thought you meant that you didn’t care if people were nazis as long as they were good dudes.
Wow, Russian propaganda is really doing it’s work. Putin would have employed Goebels in a heartbeat who would have been impressed.
Why is it that high in Germany?
Eastern Germans nostalgia about the "good old days"
"When I was young and lived in the DDR, I could drink all night without getting a hangover, women were interested in me, I had a secure career at the local Trabant factory, there weren't any of these immigrants and gays making me feel uncomfortable, and my penis worked. Now I'm old and living in a reunified Germany, none of those things are true. So what's the solution? Bring back the Russians, of course!"
We have the "During Czechoslovakia, We didn't have to work half the time so we just got drunk at work and stole flour/steel/anything from my workplace and used in bargaining for other goods". They straight up built whole houses from the stolen building material for example lol. Or exchanged meat for western jeans.
Oh and also, the young couldnt leave, so it was kind of bustling with life. The poorer regions today are only filled with bitter, old people.
Slavery mentality. I was once a slave who had bread, but now I don't. Bring back slavery, so that I can get my bread once again.
weren't bananas treated as some kind of luxury novelty back in the eastern bloc?
Fuck this. I never lived under the GDR/USSR, but holyfuck, I would rather killing myself than living under such system. I don't think any sane person would want that.
So, naturally, I was thinking that the ones who want and understand that the most, are the ones who tasted it. But I guess some slaves never can see past their salvery and understand what freedom truly is.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Germany%E2%80%93Soviet_Union_relations
Former DDR states
A 43 point difference for Germany. Time to ban AfD
Yea they gotta go.
Foreign sedition atp
Being myself a right winger, this love for Putin is very concearning. He isn't our freind, but many struggle to understand that.
I have a online friend that is openly racist in many ways, at least culturally. He hates Putin with a passion, BECAUSE the friend cares about the country. True nationalists should hate Putin even more than most parties.
Exactly, those who dont are funded by outside actors
Or stupid.
It wouldn’t be the first time. Once Hitler literally said in a speech “the friendship between Poland and Germany is one of the reassuring aspects of today’s Europe”. He was having polite chats with Polish officials at that time. Six months later he was threatening to invade…
Leave the right.
It's mostly a cesspool
This just goes to show that you are a dying breed.
I don't believe 10% the people in the UK who don't have a positive view of Reform, have a positive view of Putin. It also shows that more non right wing Greeks have a more positive view than right wing Britons.
I don't know, there are still some people on the left who have a somewhat ambiguous attitude towards Russia and Putin, whether because of ideological inertia from the "good old days" of the USSR, or because they oppose the USA and NATO and support Russia as an "enemy of an enemy".
Oh, I forgot about the tankies.
10% seems like a high percentage for genuine tankies.
what were those 4 democracies trump wanted to topple again and get out of the EU
exactly. hungary, germany, italy and poland.
Austria, not Germany
everyone who is hoping putin will succeed, should be forced to be send to Russia, and live there, and not allowed to come back.
if you think putin is doing great stuff, then why not go there, and live under him
It's statistic about possible voters. 58% of those who have positive view of fidesz love what Putin does. But apart from Hungarian, Germany and Greek(and let's be fair, those are real Russian gas/other things lover countries) other countries far right "possible voters" (because it's those who think that far right party is positive, not those who would vote for those) negative view of Putin is >50% to 91% even amongst "far right Putin parties". Feel free to down vote me to hell, but I'm saying you see two metrics in this graph but graph is framed - real problem is that 32% of far right party haters in Greece love Putin, not that 91% of far right lovers hate Putin is higher number than 96% far right haters hating Putin in Sweden. This statistic purely shows that Greeks are Putin ass lickers. Critical thinking brought to you by: MSc in statistics
I would love someone to explain to me, how Putin, self proclaimed defender of EU against nazism in UA and whole Europe... is also so popular for those said far-right parties? I get that he is sponsoring them, they all are pro russian but like.. by his own logic next step of cleaning europe would be Slovakia. Hungary.. germany because of Afd? And yet they praise him? Look up to him? Vote against their own interest for sake of russias interest?
Even in the UK, where Russia conducted a chemical weapons attack. It's not a coherent set of politics at all.
well yeah, else they wouldn't be traitors and anyone voting for them absolutely hates the country they live in
Whaaaat?! No! You dont say! How, just how can it be that right wing isolationists in favour of breaking up the EU into small bite sized chunks could also be in favour of the person promoting the banquets! Thats crazy talk!
It's not often I get to read something good about the Swedish Democrats, but I'm pleasantly surprised.
They prefer there gang criminals instead, like the ones at their leaders wedding.
in other words, it's always the people you most expect
Everyone voting for any of those far right parties is just a Russian puppet at this point. They’re doing their part destabilising the union
Do far left next.
Here in Ireland, we have a party called people before profit. They complain constantly about spending money on defence and think giving Ukraine weapons is a disgrace.
Even our newly elected president compared modern Germany re arming to 1930s Germany and thinks Putin can be deterred through "peace".
She said the Salisbury poisoning had to be taken into context of the actions of Nato.
The far left support Putin far more than the far right.
It makes wonder if there's another reason apart from propaganda/ignorance that makes people want what's worse for everybody
Is the remaining % after positive and negative the Don't Knows/neutral etc.? If so, I find it hard to believe that Putin, being such a polarising figure, would have such a high proportion of Don't Knows in places like UK, Netherlands, Italy, Spain etc.
Genuinely surprised that Lega’s positive view isn’t at 80% considering that the party literally has some partnership with Putin
What’s the story with German righties being way more pro-Putin than the likes of Italy or France? Some sort of holdover from East Germany? Or they just really miss cheap gas?
Greece? WTF?
Can we see the results for the communist parties too?
So putin isn't just winning in Russia but in larger part of Europe. (Far rights are in trend).
That's a pretty bad graph, not gonna lie.
They will change their opinion once the Orcs start killing and raping their kids...
And the most fervent Putin supporters are neo-nazis.
SLAVA UKRAINI
I truly wonder how 1st grade bonafide traitors manage to cosplay and get celebrated as "Nationalist" these days.
I understand nationalism and conservatism.
It's dumb and doesn't work, but I at least understand where it's coming from.
However the current right is the complete anti thesis of nationalism.
They want to surrender to Russia! The faster the better! xD
How can you support that as a nationalist???
HOW BRAINDEAD CAN ONE BE!?!
I don't get it, at all.
Far-rights think that Russia is a Christian White Nationalist traditional values paradise for some reason (reason: Russian propaganda for the stupidest)
Oh really? Shocking. Must be pure coincidence — totally unrelated to the fact that these parties are funded by Putin, I’m sure.
Could you clarify what the green data points mean? I'm assuming it's the percentage from the right-wing populist parties (i..e Fidesz, Reform, AfD, etc.) who support Russia, but it's not clear from the title or the graphic.
They polled Putin supporters, and for example with the AfD, 47% said they like the AfD and 4% said they don't.
Ah, I see
Hungary and Greece ok.
But Germany, damn reunification /s
not surprising
Are you okay Greece?
Greeks have traditionally viewed the Russians and other orthodox nations like the Serbs as strong allies. The religious far right also clings to some "prophecy" that Constantinople will be liberated with the help of the Russians.
Unfortunately this makes them too blind to see that things are changing and some political lines are not to be followed dogmatically.
its not the ruling party,Greek Solution had 4.4 % in 2023 general elections....
Curious results.
I wonder if there's similar data regarding Trump among the parties presented in the poll?
At least Poland and the Baltics have enough sense not to be so low that they aren't even on this graph...
People take advice from the trash can, haha!
Whatever he says is complete nonsense.
His recipe for propaganda is 1-20% truth mixed with all kinds of nonsense that comes to mind to serve his own interests.
And people still go for his stupidity after so many years of in-the-face-blood.
It is incredibly funny that Meloni got elected on a Kremlin ticket but abandoned the Kremlin right after 😂.
Europe pays better.
u/mods4mods fact check this, wasn't Vox supporter of Russia according to you?
The ones in charge, I can see them doing that for the money. They're leeches and cronies after all. Their average voter, not so much. It has been an historical theme for the Spanish right to despise Russia, and recent events do not exactly help to change that view.
However, "asinus asinum fricat" and all that...
The Party For Freedom leader Geert Wilders literally has a Russian friendship button which he flexed online, surprised it’s still that low tbh
Specifically after MH-17 got shot down even
That anyone could see putin in a positive way is beyond me.
You can believe in the rule of law, stopping immigration, kicking out immigrants and at the same time believe that Russia is the greatest threat thus far in the 21st century to European security. All of the positive aspects of Russian society only exist in propaganda anyway. Sanctity of marriage in Russia is in shambles, the people is not particularly christian and corruption is off the charts.
Shame this doesn't include Polish right-wing populist parties. Would be curious to see what the numbers are for something like Konfederacja.
Some day a vaguely useful RW populist will come along
Communists.
Common Spanish W
It truly disgusts me that SO many older Hungarians are pro-Russia. These dumbasses lived under Russian oppression from roughly 1945- 1989! Soviet troops didn’t leave until 1991!
Fidesz has poisoned everything.
Putin, the pedophile and all these fascist parties are the same.
Redditors shocked to find out that far right parties are just foreign agents.
How come the Greeks are so fond of Putin in general?
Calling "Forza Italia" right-wing populist its just too much come on
Edit: i thought it was written "far right" but still, nowadays Forza Italia is not populist anymore
Idk if you noticed but the title does not even use "far-right" but "populist right wing"
I know, i corrected as i said in the edit but still is not even populist anymore, lega and fdi? absolutely, but forza italia its just generic conservatives in 2025, the populism in it basically died with Berlusconi
What about Poland
Unbelievable. There should be legal consequences for supporting terrorists.
Greece is concerning. Why is it so high even among people who dislike Greek Solution?
Because there's like 3-4 other pro Russia parties from the far left and far right.
A big communist/stalinist party 'KKE' has historically attacked the liberal reforms of Ukraine and is super anti-NATO/EU.
Varoufakis has always done Russian propaganda and bashes Zelenskyy even this week on Twitter. During his minister term he wanted Greece to loan from Russia instead of the EU.
And maybe a few Orthodox boomers see an alliance through faith.
I'm really ashamed to be Greek.
Unfortunately, many Greeks still support Russia and believe that Putin will save us even to this day, by both the far right and the far left. Russian propaganda is more prevalent in Greece compared to other European countries.
Fuck "Orthodox Brothership".
Greeks. Can't run country maybe Putler can save them.