Perhaps they should show up for voting, voting % of young voters is too damn low. You can’t kick a democratically elected leader based on vibes. Election is coming next year, go and vote him out.
You just aren't allowed to overthrow a democratically-elected government just because you have very strong emotions about them.
You wait your turn until the next election, persuade fellow citizens to come around to your perspective, and hope that they'll vote for the party you prefer. And you accept the outcome regardless of whether you like it or not.
It's not just emotions. Also, precisely because this is a democracy, they should be able to remove an elected leader whenever the citizens want. That's the privilege of democracy.
Why do you think about the minority? All citizens of the country can show their civic stance, if you disagree with the protesters, go out and demonstrate it. If you stay at home, then you either support the protesters or you are not against what the protesters are saying.
In addition, in Hungary, the minority elected the ruling party.
Violence is a last resort, but if nothing else works and the state turns into a totalitarian dictatorship, yes. Democracy was born of blood, not pastries and milkshakes.
Or you could just vote them out in an election. That's how we do things in actual democracies.
Fidesz are by no means guaranteed to win. They only have a single-digit poll lead at the moment. So you may get your preferred government after the next election. And obviously even if Fidesz do win, you'll have to just accept that in a democracy.
And if this party is trying to eliminate democracy? What will you do? Of course, they will not say directly that they are doing this. They will say that they care about the people, they will talk about elections, they will organize them and actively call on people to vote, they will talk about the value of human freedoms. However, their actions will be aimed only at expanding their own powers, the elections will be falsified, and human freedoms will be violated. What will you do? Formally, elections exist, so you will probably just say that you just need to vote correctly. And again. And again. And again. There is even a country in the world that serves as an ideal model for such paper democracies, it is called the Russian Federation.
There's no evidence of election interference or voter fraud or vote manipulation in Hungary.
What you see as a human freedom others may not. That's for a democratic society to debate and to vote on. Feeling strongly about it doesn't count for anything.
Whenever I hear someone talking about a conservative government in power "trying to eliminate democracy" the only thing I hear is "progressive upset that they aren't getting their way".
Éljen Magyarország!!
He's a dictator.
You will only remove him by force
Perhaps they should show up for voting, voting % of young voters is too damn low. You can’t kick a democratically elected leader based on vibes. Election is coming next year, go and vote him out.
Bro never heard of a protest before
You're allowed to protest, of course.
You just aren't allowed to overthrow a democratically-elected government just because you have very strong emotions about them.
You wait your turn until the next election, persuade fellow citizens to come around to your perspective, and hope that they'll vote for the party you prefer. And you accept the outcome regardless of whether you like it or not.
It's not just emotions. Also, precisely because this is a democracy, they should be able to remove an elected leader whenever the citizens want. That's the privilege of democracy.
That’s..not how it works. A minority cannot kick out a leader chosen by majority via protests.
Why do you think about the minority? All citizens of the country can show their civic stance, if you disagree with the protesters, go out and demonstrate it. If you stay at home, then you either support the protesters or you are not against what the protesters are saying.
In addition, in Hungary, the minority elected the ruling party.
Democracy works via votes of majority not vibes.
Do you have any brain vibes? Democracy works when people can both elect the government and remove it.
remove it how? via violence ?
Violence is a last resort, but if nothing else works and the state turns into a totalitarian dictatorship, yes. Democracy was born of blood, not pastries and milkshakes.
Or you could just vote them out in an election. That's how we do things in actual democracies.
Fidesz are by no means guaranteed to win. They only have a single-digit poll lead at the moment. So you may get your preferred government after the next election. And obviously even if Fidesz do win, you'll have to just accept that in a democracy.
That's literally not how democracy works.
Protests by definition are never an accurate representation of the people. They're always a minority of the population.
The only way to know what the people want is by an election. That's why we have them.
Turn up, cast your vote and see how the rest of your country feels about it, be happy if you win and be sad and move on if you lose.
You don't get to bypass the electoral process just because you have very strong emotions about a particular party.
And if this party is trying to eliminate democracy? What will you do? Of course, they will not say directly that they are doing this. They will say that they care about the people, they will talk about elections, they will organize them and actively call on people to vote, they will talk about the value of human freedoms. However, their actions will be aimed only at expanding their own powers, the elections will be falsified, and human freedoms will be violated. What will you do? Formally, elections exist, so you will probably just say that you just need to vote correctly. And again. And again. And again. There is even a country in the world that serves as an ideal model for such paper democracies, it is called the Russian Federation.
There's no evidence of election interference or voter fraud-YES THERE IS.
https://democracyinstitute.ceu.edu/articles/balint-magyar-and-balint-madlovics-election-manipulation-and-electoral-fraud-hungary
HOLY SHIT YOU CANT BE SERIOUS