It's the best potash. The biggest potash. You've never seen the size of this potash. I was talking to my friend Lukey and he agrees, it's the best potash. You can make a lot of chips from that potash. You like chips?
Quality is less important than geography. You guys should just stop being dicks to your neighbours instead of having to make friends with dictators the other side of the world.
Destabilize Canada for western hemisphere control, destabilize Europe to benefit Russia in its sphere of influence and gain easy access to Russia and its vassal states’ corrupted societies for “investment” opportunities and easy money to the benefit of Trump’s family and cronies.
I wouldn’t be quite so optimistic. The American farmers overproduce by so much already. A good chunk of tax payer dollars goes into buying the excess so prices dont drop. And farmers hate handouts…
A lot of that excess was produced because it was being bought by US government programs like USAID which then sent food to third world countries as humanitarian aid. Since DOGE defunded USAID and other "wastes of money", they'll get double hit on both production and consumption side.
Climate Town made good video about idiotic food policies in USA. First of all, by default unless critical products, their dates are "Best Before" and not "Expiration Date". Literally, most of foods listed in USA go through taste test to determine when their taste is off, not when it's gone bad. 40% of food produced in USA is wasted. 2% of US GDP (ironically, 3 Hungarys) is wasted food. Enormous amount of food waste is because vegetables and fruits... are not presentable on the shelf. USA makes ginormous amount of food but too stupid and hampered by stupid customs (not even laws) that prohibit dealing with this idiocy.
I think it is a cultural issue, rather than policy/law issue. The people expect the food quality to be at a certain level and that rule is simply the way to protect food producers/sellers from lawsuits against them when people buy/sell past that date. It's the date before which their "quality" they can legally guarantee, and not anything to do with edibility of the food.
On one hand, I do want the quality of the food to be guaranteed in some way, but I also agree that this way generates a lot of waste. I'm not even sure if there are better ways to do this (I haven't read about it too much though).
Erm, put actual "Expiration Date"? Enforce "Good Samaritan Act"? Stop throwing away non-marketable food? When problem arises from idiocy, solutions are usually simple.
You Americans stand idle and watch your god king tear apart your country piece by piece, yet you scream from the rooftops about how important 2nd amendment rights are, and to have a “well regulated militia” etc etc etc
You’re all wannabes who think their guns make them brave, yet you sit in cowardice as your country decomposes before you.
Canadians will never forgive you. We will continue to punish you with our wallets, and one day - if it comes to it, with our bullets.
Not exactly. This is Lukashenko's old tactic. He detains innocent people and releases them in exchange for something. The EU also lifted sanctions for people until 2022
The US is not bad. Some of the US's actions are bad. And the current Trump administration is a set of random decisions, because he has no ideology or understanding of geopolitics, only short-term interests for himself. Therefore, the position of many is understandable
Nine of the released prisoners left Belarus for Lithuania and 114 were taken to Ukraine, officials said.
Bialiatski, co-winner of the 2022 Nobel Peace Prize, is a human rights campaigner who fought for years on behalf of political prisoners before becoming one himself. He had been in jail since July 2021.
Visibly aged since he was last seen in public, he smiled broadly as he embraced exiled opposition leader Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya on arrival at the U.S. embassy in Lithuania.
The Norwegian Nobel Committee expressed "profound relief and heartfelt joy" at his release.
Kalesnikava, a leader of mass protests against Lukashenko in 2020, was among the large group taken by bus to Ukraine.
"Of course, it's a feeling of incredible happiness first of all: to see with your eyes the people who are dear to you, to hug them, and understand that now we are all free people. It's a great joy to see my first free sunset," she said in video published by the Ukrainian Telegram channel Khochu Zhit.”
Sure. Their release is a good thing (in the short term) and I'm happy for them. Except now with the sanctions lifted their dictator can claim a win and it helps legitimize his government at the world stage and internally, which goes against everything those people fought for.
They've also been helping Russia with their war in Ukraine. Many more Ukrainian people will die because this helped prolong it.
They haven’t helped Russia with the war, don’t be ridiculous. They are siding with Russia in peace talks but they are still helping Ukraine with weapons and intelligence. Not to mention things like starlink and comms without which the war would end. Even yesterday Ukrainian sources reported they were helping with targeting Russian dark fleet.
Because China doesn't want Russia to win the war but they want the war to continue. And we want to ally with China if the USA gets upset with us for leverage. Plus Asia in general is our best economic ally anyway, we can't be adversarial with everyone who isn't directly in conflict with us if we want to stand a chance in the future. We can still talk with china unlike India or Russia and Trump will only follow himself. Let's say it's a pragmatic choice.
The west has proven to be okay with dictatorship time and time throughout the cold war. The strong man just needs to shut up, sign away their national resources to MLNs and stash those sweet american dollars in their swiss bank accounts.
The only dictatorships that are bad are those aligned with the east. It’s a shame that modern America seems to be aligned with the east as well.
Not really. The US had a long fight against communism, and were fine to install dictatorships if they would help them stop communism.
The US never liked dictators, they were just willing to make dictatorships if it served their interests.
I don't know what's going on right now. Trump is for no reason at all hostile towards every democratic nation, while getting chummy with all the dictators. This has never been seen in the history of America.
Thing is, collaborating with democracies is exactly what has made the United States powerful. The US came up with the idea of globalisation, they heavily pushed for a unified Europe with the coal and iron union and later EU. They've helped every democratic ally they can find. These things made the United States powerful. The Marshall plan was a genius move by the US and cemented their position as world leader, along with making the USD the defacto reserve currency at the same time.
Remember that before WW2, it was the United Kingdom that was considered the most influential empire in the world. It was right after WW2 with US being "unscatched" that they took the chance to become the leader, having surpassed the UK economically years earlier, but not politically. The decisions they made then put them where they are today.
They pushed for the EU. They pushed for the global world order we have lived in these past 70+ years of international laws & regulation, courts and cooperative body-decisions before war, and so on - democracy over dictatorship. Have they made mistakes in the past? Absolutely, you could say that they started deviating from their righteous path back when they invaded Vietnam. But this, throwing allied relationships away for dictatorship relationships instead? This is entirely new.
And now they are throwing it down the drain to collaborate with dictatorships in order to make certain individuals personally gain money and influence. I believe that we are witnessing the US' geopolitical power-position dwindle right now. Collaborating with democratic allies brings wealth and prosperity to the nation, but it doesn't bring the same for individuals, so it is more beneficial for these corrupt politicians and company leaders to collaborate with dictatorships instead. Meanwhile, they are throwing their own people under the bus.
I wish I could say that the EU could take their place in geopolitics, but it can't. The EU is not as unified of an organization as the United States is, being a country. The EU is 27 individual countries all with their own politics and agendas, it cannot take this responsibility. So who's left to fill the vacuum? China, who's in their hayday.
All I want from the EU now is that we keep standing for democracy, human rights, individual freedoms, and open societies - and that we deepen our relations with outside parties who share the same values and principles, like Canada, Australia, Japan, and so on. We've gotta ride this wave and come out of it as undamaged as possible, that should be our goal right now.
They've helped every democratic ally they can find
By overthrowing democratically elected leaders in Iran, Guatemala, Brazil, Chile and installing dictatorships while cooperating with Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Franco's regime, Suharto's regime, South Korean dictatorships and many others.
They always helped themselves, lol. Just now they dropped the subtleness and do everything with the grace of an elephant in a porcelain shop. They don't want a strong EU that can retaliate against them. Divide and conquer, nothing new.
Yes, there's a large list of shitty things they've done. I should have phrased that differently.
I just wrote all that in anger and confusion over what I'm seeing the US do right now with regards to countries who've always been there allies. So every word is not perfectly well thought out.
But yes, they dropped their subtleness.
I just wrote that out because I truly believe that they've done some great things in the past, and it was these great things that made them powerful and rich, not the shitty things that they've done in the past or are doing right now. They're only done for the personal gain of a few selected individuals.
Well, I agree that they made themselves powerful and rich by making the great things in the past. But I think it is 'great' not in the 'good' meaning, but more like 'appropriate'. Anyway, I get your feelings and I also want the same. The EU in particular and the whole world in general being free, democratic and standing for the universal human rights. Unfortunately, cyberpunk-like scenarios are more likely to happen. I just hope, not Fallout-like ones.
Your "diplomacy" seems to be only reserved for the most vile regimes and parties in the world, while you give every democracy a hard time. Didn't know that diplomacy had to be so selective...
The US already had nominal diplomatic relations with something like 80% of the world’s authoritarian regimes so this is more a return to form rather than a bold new stance. The only reason we care now is because it directly impacts our [EU] domestic and foreign policies.
Everyone has relations with these countries, including the UK and the rest of Europe. Let’s not forget that your country gave Iran 400 million $s to get back a falsely held prisoner just a couple years ago. At least there was no direct money transferred in this case.
Trading humans for sanctions. Basically same as paying for slavery. Will only encourage dictators to imprison more and more people, so they could be traded for something.
Unfortunately yes. This will only result in more political prisoners as they're now confirmed to be a useful currency against the US.
An alternative would be to use the pressure/threat of additional sanctions to gain their release. Clearly the reactions had an effect if they want them eased. So instead of offering to lift, threaten to double down if they don't release political prisoners. Or a hundred other tools the state department has.
This is the stuff I've heard for 5 years. People spent five years in prison without any chance of getting out. Lukashenka now is very strong and there's no amount of pressure EU/US could reasonably create that would change his mind. Except for maybe a decisive military victory in Ukraine.
If you see a thug raping a girl and you prick him in his buttocks with a pin, it will also have an effect. He obviously would not like it, would he? But would it, in itself, stop him?
I don't think anybody can reasonably claim that sanctions do not work. Whether they achieve, or can theoretically achieve, what they ostensibly were meant to, is another matter.
Jfyi, potash sanctions were introduced before this phase of war in Ukraine started and had nothing to do with Putin.
Belarusian policies indeed haven't changed, but I see nothing wrong with trading lifting sanctions for prisoners, if you have no other means to influence their release. And you can't sanction what's already sanctioned, can you? And then, if you don't, as you put it, "cave in", what would be the incentive to release them then? More sanctions? Okay, then what? Either they release and you lift some sanctions, or you, again, don't lift. Then what?
What you are essentially proposing is throwing these people under the bus for the sake of looking righteous and unyielding.
Relaxation on Belarus can benefit Putin, or it can not benefit Putin. You can't know for sure. If anything, sanctions and international isolation were one of the things that pushed Lukashenko into Putin's embrace, don't you agree? I could actually imagine him becoming more independent from Putin, not less, if he gets a free hand with his main exports. So it is a double-edged sword.
I propise to use forse if they want to free those hostages. More sanctions, block belaruss totaly. This is just a joke. Only with trump as president america became this joke.
What a braindead proposal. Supposing you block Belarus totally - supposing it is even technically possible. What will then make them release those prisoners, if you don't even offer lifting sanctions for that? I mean, okay, supposing you can make it really really painful for them, which I doubt by the way, then they release a few, but you say, fuck off, we are not going to lift sanctions no matter what you do. What then? Let them rot in jail, you okay with that?
Do you know how many people have been imprisoned in russian and belarusian jails, and how many of them have been tortured or murdered? Okay, a hundred was saved, what about the thousands of others? Don’t you realize that lifting sanctions only encourages those dictators to imprison even more people, causing even more suffering? If you don’t want people to rot in a tyrant’s prison, you should fight the tyrant instead of giving him money, strentghtening his position and legitimizing his behavior.
If a person is threat to the government or very useful to the West, they would get imprisoned either way, and Belarus probably know that the US won't trade for people who are not important, so I don't see how this would act as encouragement.
Also what other way would you use to save those people?
The main criricism should be that Belarus and Russia are under economic pressure and we shouldn't break that. After the war it might make sense to make deals like this one, but right now it's not very clear.
The release of political prisions has nothing to do with good will but everything to do with Trump trying to cosy up to another dictactorship in his Axis of Evil. He dropped sanctions on a country that has been a willing partner in killing 1,000 in Ukraine.
Just let people have their angry circlejerk, it’s easier that way, and it’s why they come here for these stories. Doesn’t change the fact that a bunch of political prisoners are going home.
You don't know what you are talking about. No one is going home. Everybody is banished out of the country. If they will return they will immediately be put back in prison
They were best buddies with Saddam while he unleashed chemical warfare on the Kurds in Iraq, it was when he went after 'their' oil the relationship soured.
They don't care about anything but their bottom line, not then, not now. The release is window dressing for profiting of the lifting of sanctions.
USA joining the new EVIL AXIS as we speak. Seriously USA is more like Germany 1930's every day that passes.
And Europeans are doing nothing to help us. Keep buying goods from the USA, no sanctions, not even harsh words anymore. We've helped Europe so many times and how do they repay us? Trash talk us on reddit but then do nothing to help us. You don't think we're suffering, too? Our people who are going homeless at an alarming rate. We're losing our jobs, our families, our homes. But yes, please keep telling us how evil we are, when the majority of us are opposed to this happening and we have no agency in our lives because.... The entire rest of the world abandoned us when we needed them
America is the richest country on earth. Americans are not struggling due to anything but their upper class's greed.
Where are the riches? Because 90% of the country owns less than 1% of the wealth. It's really stupid to call us the richest country on earth, when the majority of the country is broke and much more poor than anyone in Europe. People in Germany are walking around free to live their lives, one to two months of vacation a year. You know how much vacation a struggling mother gets? None because we have no vacation guaranteed by law. Hide behind your sound bite if you really want. We're not the richest. Just because less than 100 people are rich, doesn't mean we are the richest country on earth
Trump lifted sanctions for potassium, but IMO, that's not the news that should be on the radar. During trip to Oman, Lukashenko suddenly went to Libya. This actually lies well with release of prisoners - Libya build big fertilizer plant and then SUDDENLY dictator with one of the largest deposits of potassium salts arrives immediately for a deal with promises of "establishing great cooperation in 1-2 years". This timeline is consistent with speeches of Luka or recent year. Year ago, during "government" sessions he mentioned 2-3 years plans and estimates to do the job. His whole rhetoric changed after November 2024, after discussion of field training "West 2025" with russian generals. And this is the biggest problem there - this fucker knows better than any person outside of Russia that Kremlin will definitely strike in 1-2 year timeline and he gobbles up as much money as he can, probably visits Oman to ensure his sons have unlimited access to stolen money and quickly wraps up deals. Also, that makes a cruel point of why Andrzej Pochobut was not in exchange - when time will be right, that bastard could rat away to Poland all plans of Krelmin in exchange of his own safety. Most likely, question is, would putler dash to Suwalki or not.
It is sort of funny that so many people were all "Hurr durr Germoney will betray Ukraine and go back to buying Russian gas, we trust USA more than Western Europe" and then it turns out that Germany steadfastly supports Ukraine, while USA betrays them and folds under zero pressure for no rational reason.
That's because nobody thought they'd elect Trump the second time.
You have to admit pre 2024 Biden's America was perceived as more reliable ally to Ukraine than Germany. Though I'm not sure if as an outsider if I like Scholz or Merz more.
Hell, those people were imprisoned for the pursuit of a free and democratic Belarus. The absolute majority of them are anti-Putin, pro-Ukraine and pro-EU (some of them were even deported straight to Ukraine) and that's why they were thrown in jail. Some of them were jailed for 4-5 years.
But r/europe is as always "Orange man bad."
Both can be true. Trump cronies benefit from cheap fertilizer and that could be simplest and probably only thing they care about. Shitty deals of shitty men resulted in positive outcome, but still produce shit and that positive bit doesn't change perception of these people.
Letting Putin bypass sanctions through his puppet for people that will absolutely just be arrested again for protesting for a democratic and Putin free Belarus is not a W.
And what's going to prevent people like this from being imprisoned again in the future? Has anything changed structurally in Belarus? If anything, this just makes Lukashenko's position more stable in the long run.
Do you really belive trump did this to get the prisoners released or to cosy up with the dictatorship ? Trump is basically sucking off Putin and now giving out hand jobs to putins best mates.
Putin is running American sad to see how bad they have folded yet again.
Thousands could (and likely will) die in exchange for setting those people free, because now the doors are wide open for Russia to import US goods for their war effort, including hybrid war efforts against countries that were allied to the US up until 2025.
This is only good news for those prisoners, and that's assuming that they now get to live their life with dignity and won't just get imprisoned again.
Americans are the same, they all support Trump. Russians are the same, they all support Putin.
Ukrainians are the same, they all support Zelensky.
There are no nuances, only black and white.
Yes! That's a perfect example of a generalization. All the Russians including those under 35's who never had a chance to vote in democratic elections, and those who are sitting in jails for protest are to blame for Putin's actions. As all the Americans (including 48% of those who voted for Harris) are to blame for Trump's.
Yes, that's how it works in a democracy and outside of one. You don't get to say "This guy is not my president, I didn't vote for him." You are in, whether you like it or not. Now take some responsibility and stop your whining.
But in exchange they're cutting sanctions on Belarus and even allowing them to begin exports of potash and other materials to the west. Why are we rewarding Lukashenko?
They were thrown in jail because Luka wanted to stay in power. During the last election, his cronies completely failed to present even a bogus appearance of a fair vote, so he asked his buddy Vlad for help. Vlad, who had nothing to worry about at home because, you know, russians, sent some of his loyal goons to crush the protests. And 140 million Russians said nothing. So who is to blame for Belarusians being jailed?
Google political prisoners and protests in Russia. Google current Russian laws against the protests where you can be jailed for a blank list. Or for singing the wrong song. Or for sending money to your cousin in Ukraine. If all the Russians would agree with Putin's actions, those laws would be unnecessary, right?
Saying basically "I don't care about those prisoners, let them rot forever" and "why you are not going to protest" is a perfect example of hypocrisy. Well, almost like writing here "we should send troops to Ukraine" and not signing up into UAF themselves.
I’m simply pointing out that the only people to blame here are the russians. If they hadn’t interfered in the belarusian protests, Lukashenko might already be gone, and thousands of unjustly imprisoned people would have been released, not just a hundred. Thousands more are still rotting in belarusian jails, while someone like you comes here trying to defend a decision that will only empower luka.
You're not right by putting all blame on the Russians. Belarus' police and army were under a tight Lukashenko's grip. Of course, if Russia was a democratic country, and supported the real winner instead of Lukashenko, then he probably was already gone and I wouldn't be writing this comment... Anyway, don't wanna argue anymore, you can just run a fact check of your comment through any modern LLM (for example, Mistral since it's from the EU).
People living comfortably in their houses passing judgement that trump removed some sanctions to get political prisoners free, I think I would rather hear from the people locked up.
Doing so sets the precedent that detaining people is a means to easing sanctions pressure. This will only result in more detentions. So while 123 may be free, another 200 will soon be arbitrarily locked up in their place.
And the sanctions go back up, have you asked maybe there is a clause that say sanctions go back if they continue to detain political prisoners ? Yeah people only care about precedent when they themselves or family members are not the ones being oppressed and arrested, I for one I am happy that the people that were release get to go home to their loved ones
One can be happy for the individuals and uncertain or nervous about the consequences at the same time.
if they continue to detain political prisoners
The estimates are that Belarus is currently detaining 1200 political prisoners. So it's not an if, the US has decided that it's fine to continue to do that and they're willing to let go of the sanctions for 10% of that. I wonder what Lukashenko will sell the remaining 90% for? Or will they just rot?
I wonder if the 1000+ people still locked up are happy that Belarus is no longer under these sanctions and they still remain in prison, like you said, instead of the freed ones, "I think I would rather hear from the people locked up."
And that's the most interesting thing: without Klaipėda Belarusian potash is in limited access for the world: now Belarus can only use Russian ports for the export, but Russia has its own manufacturer, and there's still a subtler trade war betwen Russia and Belarus.
Anyway, get your snacks and waterproof coats, because what's about to happen is going to be one hell of a shitshow.
The pardons were granted following consultations with the United States and at the request of U.S. President Donald Trump, BelTA said, citing what it described as the lifting of “illegal sanctions” on Belarus’ potash industry.
You kind of morons can’t imagine that we don’t view politics as sports, or a cult. We criticize decisions of the leadership we elect, all the time. It’s because we can think, and are not bumbling idiots like you, in case you’re wondering (as if you’re capable of that)
To those who are outraged by Trump's negotiations with Lukashenko, which resulted in the release of about 200 people, I would like to remind you that the EU continues to buy oil and gas from dictatorships such as Russia, Azerbaijan and Qatar.
There is always a trade off and I believe this one is worth.
Given the close relationship between Belarus and Russia and the role Belarus has played in Russia's war on Ukraine, setting aside the release of these prisoners I think it's worrying.
Those people (hostages) did nothing, 6 years passed and lukashenkp still in charge, belaruss now has no democracy. All those protests, so many people died, lost freedom etc. If you want to remove dictator you cant come with flowers to him. And now ....
Unfortunately releasing people so sets the precedent that detaining people is a means to easing sanctions pressure. This will only result in more detentions. So while 123 may be free, another 200 will soon be arbitrarily locked up in their place.
It’s not guaranteed that this will only result in more detentions, and furthermore America’s response isn’t guaranteed. While today it lifted some sanctions it could have a significantly larger sanction package should Belarus try again.
Trump admired dictatorships in his first term. I remember him talking endlessly about Duarte of the Philippines killing drug dealers without due process. He wanted to know why the U.S. couldn’t do something similar. Apparently, his new, loyal to him, staff think killing fishermen in the Caribbean fits the bill and now trumps a “very strong leader”.
America is a fucking joke. They are not our allies. They are our adversaries now that trumps criminal and fascist administration is dismantling US democracy and destroying its alliances. it’s international standing is done. it’s absolutely disgraceful
This is the wrong move. Instead, the west should completely embargo belarus (and I'm meaning a total embargo - a border closure, a ban on flights flying overhead, even a ban on IT services). Let's see how well they survive without their precious western tech. Russia is already flailing and Belarus will take a big hit if the free world tightens the controls on belarus.
The title is missing that every single one of them was banished out of the country. No one will see the country anymore without being afraid to be put in prison
And Europeans are doing nothing to help us. Keep buying goods from the USA, no sanctions, not even harsh words anymore. We've helped Europe so many times and how do they repay us? Trash talk us on reddit but then do nothing to help us. You don't think we're suffering, too? Our people who are going homeless at an alarming rate. We're losing our jobs, our families, our homes. But yes, please keep telling us how evil we are, when the majority of us are opposed to this happening and we have no agency in our lives because.... The entire rest of the world abandoned us when we needed them
I have to wonder why Trump even cares about these people, he hates liberals like them, and they didn't even jerk him off from prison. I can think of one reason for such exchanges, but it's not too flattering to former political prisoners.
Lifts sanctions on potash while threatening tariffs on Canadian potash...
Democratic countries make Trump look bad
Which is lower quality and takes longer to ship compared to Canada’s.
Belarus is number one exporter of potassium All other countries have inferior potassium
It’s the best potassium there’s no other potassium quite like a bit best in the world
It's the best potash. The biggest potash. You've never seen the size of this potash. I was talking to my friend Lukey and he agrees, it's the best potash. You can make a lot of chips from that potash. You like chips?
Another expert. How do you know it's Lower quality?
Quality is less important than geography. You guys should just stop being dicks to your neighbours instead of having to make friends with dictators the other side of the world.
You’re right. Our farmers should just keep paying higher and higher input costs lol
Because she's my sister
Experts on the Ukraine war, economics, potash…just ask them! Lol
Great question!
Destabilize Canada for western hemisphere control, destabilize Europe to benefit Russia in its sphere of influence and gain easy access to Russia and its vassal states’ corrupted societies for “investment” opportunities and easy money to the benefit of Trump’s family and cronies.
I mean I'll take 123 lives over sanctions specific to potash
The only problem is there will be 246 new political prisoners in 2 months
I kinda want them to try this and see what happens. The inflation on food products in the States would be crazy.
I wouldn’t be quite so optimistic. The American farmers overproduce by so much already. A good chunk of tax payer dollars goes into buying the excess so prices dont drop. And farmers hate handouts…
A lot of that excess was produced because it was being bought by US government programs like USAID which then sent food to third world countries as humanitarian aid. Since DOGE defunded USAID and other "wastes of money", they'll get double hit on both production and consumption side.
Climate Town made good video about idiotic food policies in USA. First of all, by default unless critical products, their dates are "Best Before" and not "Expiration Date". Literally, most of foods listed in USA go through taste test to determine when their taste is off, not when it's gone bad. 40% of food produced in USA is wasted. 2% of US GDP (ironically, 3 Hungarys) is wasted food. Enormous amount of food waste is because vegetables and fruits... are not presentable on the shelf. USA makes ginormous amount of food but too stupid and hampered by stupid customs (not even laws) that prohibit dealing with this idiocy.
That's a whole separate issue.
I think it is a cultural issue, rather than policy/law issue. The people expect the food quality to be at a certain level and that rule is simply the way to protect food producers/sellers from lawsuits against them when people buy/sell past that date. It's the date before which their "quality" they can legally guarantee, and not anything to do with edibility of the food.
On one hand, I do want the quality of the food to be guaranteed in some way, but I also agree that this way generates a lot of waste. I'm not even sure if there are better ways to do this (I haven't read about it too much though).
Erm, put actual "Expiration Date"? Enforce "Good Samaritan Act"? Stop throwing away non-marketable food? When problem arises from idiocy, solutions are usually simple.
“Home of the brave”
You Americans stand idle and watch your god king tear apart your country piece by piece, yet you scream from the rooftops about how important 2nd amendment rights are, and to have a “well regulated militia” etc etc etc
You’re all wannabes who think their guns make them brave, yet you sit in cowardice as your country decomposes before you.
Canadians will never forgive you. We will continue to punish you with our wallets, and one day - if it comes to it, with our bullets.
Fuck you, America.
The US now wants to be besties with every dictatorship on the planet.
Not exactly. This is Lukashenko's old tactic. He detains innocent people and releases them in exchange for something. The EU also lifted sanctions for people until 2022
sir this is reddit no reasonable takes here, just us is bad
The US is not bad. Some of the US's actions are bad. And the current Trump administration is a set of random decisions, because he has no ideology or understanding of geopolitics, only short-term interests for himself. Therefore, the position of many is understandable
they’ve been always been besties with dictatorship when it meant money and power, they even overthrew democracies to install puppet dictators.
So what money and power does Belarus out of all places have then?
with this administration, it’s easier, they’ll probably rename a park after trump
Are we really going to complain about this?
Although I'm happy for these people, you must see bigger picture, it's just gesture from Belarus and they gain immensely.
Yes, nothing Trump does is good to these people.
Sure. Their release is a good thing (in the short term) and I'm happy for them. Except now with the sanctions lifted their dictator can claim a win and it helps legitimize his government at the world stage and internally, which goes against everything those people fought for.
They've also been helping Russia with their war in Ukraine. Many more Ukrainian people will die because this helped prolong it.
They haven’t helped Russia with the war, don’t be ridiculous. They are siding with Russia in peace talks but they are still helping Ukraine with weapons and intelligence. Not to mention things like starlink and comms without which the war would end. Even yesterday Ukrainian sources reported they were helping with targeting Russian dark fleet.
"They" being Belarus.
Although it speaks volumes about the state of the US that you thought he was on about them.
So in that case why doesn’t the EU sanction China completely? China has helped far more than Belarus has.
Because China doesn't want Russia to win the war but they want the war to continue. And we want to ally with China if the USA gets upset with us for leverage. Plus Asia in general is our best economic ally anyway, we can't be adversarial with everyone who isn't directly in conflict with us if we want to stand a chance in the future. We can still talk with china unlike India or Russia and Trump will only follow himself. Let's say it's a pragmatic choice.
Doubt. China didn't offer up their land as an invasion route into Ukraine, or a base to launch missiles.
Does their climate support orange trees?
Because they're a Russian satellite state so they can further help Russian interests without being completely and utterly implicit in it.
But we already know that Trump is so far up Putins ass he's turning brown rather than orange so why the weird skirting around?
Plausible deniability to his moronic base. Everybody else can see it, but this will be now spun as a positive by his supporters.
Aren't they are friends of russia?
Mutual friends. The recent airple parts deal will be a conduit to Russia.
The west has proven to be okay with dictatorship time and time throughout the cold war. The strong man just needs to shut up, sign away their national resources to MLNs and stash those sweet american dollars in their swiss bank accounts.
The only dictatorships that are bad are those aligned with the east. It’s a shame that modern America seems to be aligned with the east as well.
Not really. The US had a long fight against communism, and were fine to install dictatorships if they would help them stop communism.
The US never liked dictators, they were just willing to make dictatorships if it served their interests.
I don't know what's going on right now. Trump is for no reason at all hostile towards every democratic nation, while getting chummy with all the dictators. This has never been seen in the history of America.
You describing all the western powers. Fance been doing the same in Africa. England did the same in South East Asia and Middle East
Thing is, collaborating with democracies is exactly what has made the United States powerful. The US came up with the idea of globalisation, they heavily pushed for a unified Europe with the coal and iron union and later EU. They've helped every democratic ally they can find. These things made the United States powerful. The Marshall plan was a genius move by the US and cemented their position as world leader, along with making the USD the defacto reserve currency at the same time.
Remember that before WW2, it was the United Kingdom that was considered the most influential empire in the world. It was right after WW2 with US being "unscatched" that they took the chance to become the leader, having surpassed the UK economically years earlier, but not politically. The decisions they made then put them where they are today.
They pushed for the EU. They pushed for the global world order we have lived in these past 70+ years of international laws & regulation, courts and cooperative body-decisions before war, and so on - democracy over dictatorship. Have they made mistakes in the past? Absolutely, you could say that they started deviating from their righteous path back when they invaded Vietnam. But this, throwing allied relationships away for dictatorship relationships instead? This is entirely new.
And now they are throwing it down the drain to collaborate with dictatorships in order to make certain individuals personally gain money and influence. I believe that we are witnessing the US' geopolitical power-position dwindle right now. Collaborating with democratic allies brings wealth and prosperity to the nation, but it doesn't bring the same for individuals, so it is more beneficial for these corrupt politicians and company leaders to collaborate with dictatorships instead. Meanwhile, they are throwing their own people under the bus.
I wish I could say that the EU could take their place in geopolitics, but it can't. The EU is not as unified of an organization as the United States is, being a country. The EU is 27 individual countries all with their own politics and agendas, it cannot take this responsibility. So who's left to fill the vacuum? China, who's in their hayday.
All I want from the EU now is that we keep standing for democracy, human rights, individual freedoms, and open societies - and that we deepen our relations with outside parties who share the same values and principles, like Canada, Australia, Japan, and so on. We've gotta ride this wave and come out of it as undamaged as possible, that should be our goal right now.
By overthrowing democratically elected leaders in Iran, Guatemala, Brazil, Chile and installing dictatorships while cooperating with Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Franco's regime, Suharto's regime, South Korean dictatorships and many others. They always helped themselves, lol. Just now they dropped the subtleness and do everything with the grace of an elephant in a porcelain shop. They don't want a strong EU that can retaliate against them. Divide and conquer, nothing new.
Yes, there's a large list of shitty things they've done. I should have phrased that differently.
I just wrote all that in anger and confusion over what I'm seeing the US do right now with regards to countries who've always been there allies. So every word is not perfectly well thought out.
But yes, they dropped their subtleness.
I just wrote that out because I truly believe that they've done some great things in the past, and it was these great things that made them powerful and rich, not the shitty things that they've done in the past or are doing right now. They're only done for the personal gain of a few selected individuals.
Well, I agree that they made themselves powerful and rich by making the great things in the past. But I think it is 'great' not in the 'good' meaning, but more like 'appropriate'. Anyway, I get your feelings and I also want the same. The EU in particular and the whole world in general being free, democratic and standing for the universal human rights. Unfortunately, cyberpunk-like scenarios are more likely to happen. I just hope, not Fallout-like ones.
Fully agreed, let's hope for the best. It would be great if we could keep Cyberpunk and Fallout to the screen.
I hear their president has been very inspired by such countries.
It's very easy to make business with dictatorships, you just call the top guy, buy him a plane or something, and they will give you contracts.
Or gold bars and a Rolex, I heard those work great as well...
It is called diplomacy. Europeans were doing similar things for centuries.
Your "diplomacy" seems to be only reserved for the most vile regimes and parties in the world, while you give every democracy a hard time. Didn't know that diplomacy had to be so selective...
The US already had nominal diplomatic relations with something like 80% of the world’s authoritarian regimes so this is more a return to form rather than a bold new stance. The only reason we care now is because it directly impacts our [EU] domestic and foreign policies.
Everyone has relations with these countries, including the UK and the rest of Europe. Let’s not forget that your country gave Iran 400 million $s to get back a falsely held prisoner just a couple years ago. At least there was no direct money transferred in this case.
DJT and his billionaire buddies want to, I dont think normal americans want any of this (americans who are not cult fanatics).
Olympic official says it's better to deal with dictatorships
It’s alway the power and money hungry. And their own useful idiots.
Looks like world war is back on the menu.
Trading humans for sanctions. Basically same as paying for slavery. Will only encourage dictators to imprison more and more people, so they could be traded for something.
What do you propose, let them do their time in full, and then some?
Unfortunately yes. This will only result in more political prisoners as they're now confirmed to be a useful currency against the US.
An alternative would be to use the pressure/threat of additional sanctions to gain their release. Clearly the reactions had an effect if they want them eased. So instead of offering to lift, threaten to double down if they don't release political prisoners. Or a hundred other tools the state department has.
This is the stuff I've heard for 5 years. People spent five years in prison without any chance of getting out. Lukashenka now is very strong and there's no amount of pressure EU/US could reasonably create that would change his mind. Except for maybe a decisive military victory in Ukraine.
If you see a thug raping a girl and you prick him in his buttocks with a pin, it will also have an effect. He obviously would not like it, would he? But would it, in itself, stop him?
I don't think anybody can reasonably claim that sanctions do not work. Whether they achieve, or can theoretically achieve, what they ostensibly were meant to, is another matter.
What do you propose?
I propose that free and democratic societies smash autocrats and nefarious oligarchs
Have the Belarusian policies that led to said sanctions changed? If you cave in on sanctions they become meaningless.
If it's a quid pro quo for the potash, well, that's just using sanctions as extortion.
Trump has played in to Putin's hand here
Jfyi, potash sanctions were introduced before this phase of war in Ukraine started and had nothing to do with Putin.
Belarusian policies indeed haven't changed, but I see nothing wrong with trading lifting sanctions for prisoners, if you have no other means to influence their release. And you can't sanction what's already sanctioned, can you? And then, if you don't, as you put it, "cave in", what would be the incentive to release them then? More sanctions? Okay, then what? Either they release and you lift some sanctions, or you, again, don't lift. Then what?
What you are essentially proposing is throwing these people under the bus for the sake of looking righteous and unyielding.
Fuck off. The sanctions didn't put these people in jail, Lukashenko did.
If you can't see how any relaxation on Belarus benefit Putin, I don't see why you are comment on this.
The break between the US and the EU on these sanctions are a sign of bad things to come for Europe.
Relaxation on Belarus can benefit Putin, or it can not benefit Putin. You can't know for sure. If anything, sanctions and international isolation were one of the things that pushed Lukashenko into Putin's embrace, don't you agree? I could actually imagine him becoming more independent from Putin, not less, if he gets a free hand with his main exports. So it is a double-edged sword.
The corollary? Fuck off youself, ya dobber.
I propise to use forse if they want to free those hostages. More sanctions, block belaruss totaly. This is just a joke. Only with trump as president america became this joke.
What a braindead proposal. Supposing you block Belarus totally - supposing it is even technically possible. What will then make them release those prisoners, if you don't even offer lifting sanctions for that? I mean, okay, supposing you can make it really really painful for them, which I doubt by the way, then they release a few, but you say, fuck off, we are not going to lift sanctions no matter what you do. What then? Let them rot in jail, you okay with that?
Do you know how many people have been imprisoned in russian and belarusian jails, and how many of them have been tortured or murdered? Okay, a hundred was saved, what about the thousands of others? Don’t you realize that lifting sanctions only encourages those dictators to imprison even more people, causing even more suffering? If you don’t want people to rot in a tyrant’s prison, you should fight the tyrant instead of giving him money, strentghtening his position and legitimizing his behavior.
You would not be saying that if you were falsely imprisoned lol
If a person is threat to the government or very useful to the West, they would get imprisoned either way, and Belarus probably know that the US won't trade for people who are not important, so I don't see how this would act as encouragement.
Also what other way would you use to save those people?
The main criricism should be that Belarus and Russia are under economic pressure and we shouldn't break that. After the war it might make sense to make deals like this one, but right now it's not very clear.
USA joining the new EVIL AXIS as we speak. Seriously USA is more like Germany 1930's every day that passes.
Is axis of evil is literally getting political prisoners released for sanctions that were already being by passed ?
Why would Belarus want to lift sanctions if they were bypassed?
sanctions passed by whom
The release of political prisions has nothing to do with good will but everything to do with Trump trying to cosy up to another dictactorship in his Axis of Evil. He dropped sanctions on a country that has been a willing partner in killing 1,000 in Ukraine.
Just let people have their angry circlejerk, it’s easier that way, and it’s why they come here for these stories. Doesn’t change the fact that a bunch of political prisoners are going home.
You don't know what you are talking about. No one is going home. Everybody is banished out of the country. If they will return they will immediately be put back in prison
And the US enabled a dictatorship in the process.
Would you have let Sadam stay in power if he released political prisoners?
They were best buddies with Saddam while he unleashed chemical warfare on the Kurds in Iraq, it was when he went after 'their' oil the relationship soured.
They don't care about anything but their bottom line, not then, not now. The release is window dressing for profiting of the lifting of sanctions.
And Europeans are doing nothing to help us. Keep buying goods from the USA, no sanctions, not even harsh words anymore. We've helped Europe so many times and how do they repay us? Trash talk us on reddit but then do nothing to help us. You don't think we're suffering, too? Our people who are going homeless at an alarming rate. We're losing our jobs, our families, our homes. But yes, please keep telling us how evil we are, when the majority of us are opposed to this happening and we have no agency in our lives because.... The entire rest of the world abandoned us when we needed them
America is the richest country on earth. Americans are not struggling due to anything but their upper class's greed.
Where are the riches? Because 90% of the country owns less than 1% of the wealth. It's really stupid to call us the richest country on earth, when the majority of the country is broke and much more poor than anyone in Europe. People in Germany are walking around free to live their lives, one to two months of vacation a year. You know how much vacation a struggling mother gets? None because we have no vacation guaranteed by law. Hide behind your sound bite if you really want. We're not the richest. Just because less than 100 people are rich, doesn't mean we are the richest country on earth
Put those people back in prison now!
Never trust a goddamn yank.
Trump lifted sanctions for potassium, but IMO, that's not the news that should be on the radar. During trip to Oman, Lukashenko suddenly went to Libya. This actually lies well with release of prisoners - Libya build big fertilizer plant and then SUDDENLY dictator with one of the largest deposits of potassium salts arrives immediately for a deal with promises of "establishing great cooperation in 1-2 years". This timeline is consistent with speeches of Luka or recent year. Year ago, during "government" sessions he mentioned 2-3 years plans and estimates to do the job. His whole rhetoric changed after November 2024, after discussion of field training "West 2025" with russian generals. And this is the biggest problem there - this fucker knows better than any person outside of Russia that Kremlin will definitely strike in 1-2 year timeline and he gobbles up as much money as he can, probably visits Oman to ensure his sons have unlimited access to stolen money and quickly wraps up deals. Also, that makes a cruel point of why Andrzej Pochobut was not in exchange - when time will be right, that bastard could rat away to Poland all plans of Krelmin in exchange of his own safety. Most likely, question is, would putler dash to Suwalki or not.
Europoor never fails.
I’m not here to fraternize with the enemy.
Never trust a KGBist.
this just screams at using belarus to get around sanctions on russia
And will imprison 10fold again.
Exactly. This sets the precedent that detaining people is a means to easing sanctions.
It is sort of funny that so many people were all "Hurr durr Germoney will betray Ukraine and go back to buying Russian gas, we trust USA more than Western Europe" and then it turns out that Germany steadfastly supports Ukraine, while USA betrays them and folds under zero pressure for no rational reason.
That's because nobody thought they'd elect Trump the second time.
You have to admit pre 2024 Biden's America was perceived as more reliable ally to Ukraine than Germany. Though I'm not sure if as an outsider if I like Scholz or Merz more.
Now though, no counting on Americans.
Joe Biden was doing amazing work for us Americans. The Republican Party is the world’s cancer.
Hell, those people were imprisoned for the pursuit of a free and democratic Belarus. The absolute majority of them are anti-Putin, pro-Ukraine and pro-EU (some of them were even deported straight to Ukraine) and that's why they were thrown in jail. Some of them were jailed for 4-5 years. But r/europe is as always "Orange man bad."
Both can be true. Trump cronies benefit from cheap fertilizer and that could be simplest and probably only thing they care about. Shitty deals of shitty men resulted in positive outcome, but still produce shit and that positive bit doesn't change perception of these people.
Letting Putin bypass sanctions through his puppet for people that will absolutely just be arrested again for protesting for a democratic and Putin free Belarus is not a W.
And what's going to prevent people like this from being imprisoned again in the future? Has anything changed structurally in Belarus? If anything, this just makes Lukashenko's position more stable in the long run.
This sub is the fucking worst
Do you really belive trump did this to get the prisoners released or to cosy up with the dictatorship ? Trump is basically sucking off Putin and now giving out hand jobs to putins best mates.
Putin is running American sad to see how bad they have folded yet again.
He could’ve lifted the sanctions with nothing in return….
It’s so exhausting, they literally have no idea how to react to any good news if it involves orange man.
Thousands could (and likely will) die in exchange for setting those people free, because now the doors are wide open for Russia to import US goods for their war effort, including hybrid war efforts against countries that were allied to the US up until 2025.
This is only good news for those prisoners, and that's assuming that they now get to live their life with dignity and won't just get imprisoned again.
"Never trust a goddamn yank" Like there is absolutely ZERO nuance to things
Americans are the same, they all support Trump. Russians are the same, they all support Putin. Ukrainians are the same, they all support Zelensky. There are no nuances, only black and white.
Russians had their chance, they don't get to enjoy the benefit of the doubt anymore. As for the yanks, they are working on it.
Yes! That's a perfect example of a generalization. All the Russians including those under 35's who never had a chance to vote in democratic elections, and those who are sitting in jails for protest are to blame for Putin's actions. As all the Americans (including 48% of those who voted for Harris) are to blame for Trump's.
Yes, that's how it works in a democracy and outside of one. You don't get to say "This guy is not my president, I didn't vote for him." You are in, whether you like it or not. Now take some responsibility and stop your whining.
Putin only does good things by accident or coincidentally.
But in exchange they're cutting sanctions on Belarus and even allowing them to begin exports of potash and other materials to the west. Why are we rewarding Lukashenko?
They were thrown in jail because Luka wanted to stay in power. During the last election, his cronies completely failed to present even a bogus appearance of a fair vote, so he asked his buddy Vlad for help. Vlad, who had nothing to worry about at home because, you know, russians, sent some of his loyal goons to crush the protests. And 140 million Russians said nothing. So who is to blame for Belarusians being jailed?
...
A person with ru flair blames europe.
I’m simply pointing out that the only people to blame here are the russians. If they hadn’t interfered in the belarusian protests, Lukashenko might already be gone, and thousands of unjustly imprisoned people would have been released, not just a hundred. Thousands more are still rotting in belarusian jails, while someone like you comes here trying to defend a decision that will only empower luka.
You're not right by putting all blame on the Russians. Belarus' police and army were under a tight Lukashenko's grip. Of course, if Russia was a democratic country, and supported the real winner instead of Lukashenko, then he probably was already gone and I wouldn't be writing this comment... Anyway, don't wanna argue anymore, you can just run a fact check of your comment through any modern LLM (for example, Mistral since it's from the EU).
I guess the bot farms are still active and upvoting drivel like this meant for low iq audiences with no critical thinking.
Oh, Potash--the new oil...
People living comfortably in their houses passing judgement that trump removed some sanctions to get political prisoners free, I think I would rather hear from the people locked up.
Doing so sets the precedent that detaining people is a means to easing sanctions pressure. This will only result in more detentions. So while 123 may be free, another 200 will soon be arbitrarily locked up in their place.
And the sanctions go back up, have you asked maybe there is a clause that say sanctions go back if they continue to detain political prisoners ? Yeah people only care about precedent when they themselves or family members are not the ones being oppressed and arrested, I for one I am happy that the people that were release get to go home to their loved ones
One can be happy for the individuals and uncertain or nervous about the consequences at the same time.
The estimates are that Belarus is currently detaining 1200 political prisoners. So it's not an if, the US has decided that it's fine to continue to do that and they're willing to let go of the sanctions for 10% of that. I wonder what Lukashenko will sell the remaining 90% for? Or will they just rot?
I wonder if the 1000+ people still locked up are happy that Belarus is no longer under these sanctions and they still remain in prison, like you said, instead of the freed ones, "I think I would rather hear from the people locked up."
inb US forces Lithuania to open Klaipėda port for Belaruskali
And that's the most interesting thing: without Klaipėda Belarusian potash is in limited access for the world: now Belarus can only use Russian ports for the export, but Russia has its own manufacturer, and there's still a subtler trade war betwen Russia and Belarus.
Anyway, get your snacks and waterproof coats, because what's about to happen is going to be one hell of a shitshow.
80 years of Cold War and Russia wins with a social media troll army.
Y'all were just as mad at Biden over https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Bout%E2%80%93Brittney_Griner_prisoner_exchange, right?
Um, yes? People on this sub were mad about it, and rightly so.
You kind of morons can’t imagine that we don’t view politics as sports, or a cult. We criticize decisions of the leadership we elect, all the time. It’s because we can think, and are not bumbling idiots like you, in case you’re wondering (as if you’re capable of that)
To those who are outraged by Trump's negotiations with Lukashenko, which resulted in the release of about 200 people, I would like to remind you that the EU continues to buy oil and gas from dictatorships such as Russia, Azerbaijan and Qatar.
I guess those no maidan protests did their jobs. The US just accepted Lukashenka is there to stay.
Belarus 😂
Pretty sure these sanctions broke the Budapest memorandum
ITT: gross Euros that would rather have people be kept unfairly in prison, rather than let Trump get a win.
Think people are angry about the lifting of sanctions not the release of those prisoners.
There is always a trade off and I believe this one is worth.
It's people that had the courage to stand up to a dictator and have been locked away for that.
Idc if it's Trump or Biden or Hegseth or whoever.
Given the close relationship between Belarus and Russia and the role Belarus has played in Russia's war on Ukraine, setting aside the release of these prisoners I think it's worrying.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belarusian_involvement_in_the_Russo-Ukrainian_war_(2022%E2%80%93present)
https://www.npr.org/2022/03/11/1085548867/belarus-ukraine-russia-invasion-lukashenko-putin
Those people (hostages) did nothing, 6 years passed and lukashenkp still in charge, belaruss now has no democracy. All those protests, so many people died, lost freedom etc. If you want to remove dictator you cant come with flowers to him. And now ....
Sanctions that Belarus also evaded
It’s rewarding hostage taking. It’s how you end up with more hostages.
Literally negotiating with terrorists. Good job
ahha yes, Europe is known for never negotiating with terrorists,
Usually the US is funding them so I wouldn't talk tok much
Unfortunately releasing people so sets the precedent that detaining people is a means to easing sanctions pressure. This will only result in more detentions. So while 123 may be free, another 200 will soon be arbitrarily locked up in their place.
Always trust a Euro to explain why it makes more sense to do nothing.
I'm an American lol. Nor did I advocate for doing nothing, just that this is the wrong lever to pull.
It’s not guaranteed that this will only result in more detentions, and furthermore America’s response isn’t guaranteed. While today it lifted some sanctions it could have a significantly larger sanction package should Belarus try again.
Then the sanctions go back on until those prisoners are also released. No, you’re right, better to just let innocent political prisoners suffer
There can be no illusions that the US administration is compromat.
usa getting blackmailed by potato republic
Trump admired dictatorships in his first term. I remember him talking endlessly about Duarte of the Philippines killing drug dealers without due process. He wanted to know why the U.S. couldn’t do something similar. Apparently, his new, loyal to him, staff think killing fishermen in the Caribbean fits the bill and now trumps a “very strong leader”.
Is he gonna count this as another “war” he solved?
Fucking galaxy-brain yanks. All this does is encourage them to take more hostages, as they know they'll be rewarded.
Heads up guys the Scotsman on Reddit has an opinion on Geopolitics. Everyone listen closely, we're in the presence of an expert here.
America is a fucking joke. They are not our allies. They are our adversaries now that trumps criminal and fascist administration is dismantling US democracy and destroying its alliances. it’s international standing is done. it’s absolutely disgraceful
You gonna cry?
You gonna elect a president that’s not a criminal pedo? No? Then stfu
"Hostages". Luka is a criminal.
This is the wrong move. Instead, the west should completely embargo belarus (and I'm meaning a total embargo - a border closure, a ban on flights flying overhead, even a ban on IT services). Let's see how well they survive without their precious western tech. Russia is already flailing and Belarus will take a big hit if the free world tightens the controls on belarus.
The title is missing that every single one of them was banished out of the country. No one will see the country anymore without being afraid to be put in prison
And Europeans are doing nothing to help us. Keep buying goods from the USA, no sanctions, not even harsh words anymore. We've helped Europe so many times and how do they repay us? Trash talk us on reddit but then do nothing to help us. You don't think we're suffering, too? Our people who are going homeless at an alarming rate. We're losing our jobs, our families, our homes. But yes, please keep telling us how evil we are, when the majority of us are opposed to this happening and we have no agency in our lives because.... The entire rest of the world abandoned us when we needed them
I have to wonder why Trump even cares about these people, he hates liberals like them, and they didn't even jerk him off from prison. I can think of one reason for such exchanges, but it's not too flattering to former political prisoners.
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Putler get lost