He had some children come out against the ones that claimed abuse and say they never witnessed anything outside of the normal discipline for parents at the time.
Lemme tell you guys. I was also a product of a father that decided I was the one who would get it worse than the rest of my siblings. Wish I could tell you why. I just know my sister who’s the same age range as me doesn’t remember any abuse either.
My dad made a conscious effort to make sure I was the only one suffering. I was his private punching bag.
Not that the rest of my siblings had great lives either. They just weren’t getting beat for washing the dishes wrong.
My dad also always had the one he attacked and the one he favored. That lasted until we were adults, but the person lowest on the totem pole often switched. Until I became old enough to say fuck it, let’s dance old man.
Was there a big age difference between you and your siblings? Reading that I would guess that either he decided for some reason that he was jealous of you or he got some ideas in his head that you may not be his so he was gonna punish you.
The author was abused to hell by his mother in the most disgusting and cruel ways but didn't lay so much as act cross with his older siblings. After he was finally saved thanks to teachers who saw the signs of his abuse, he asked to visit his family once that he had escaped. His younger sibling, only a toddler when the kid got away, became his mother's replacement punching bag was then the one being starved, beatened, forced to eat his own sick..
But never the older siblings. They got to have a normal childhood.
can you point to where they’re saying anything even close to that? or is it more likely that they’re saying just because all the kids in a family aren’t abused, doesn’t mean that one can’t be singled out by a parent?
He’s implying that just because there is no evidence and no one else in Bing's family saw anything that Bing still beat his son like had happened to him. That is why one would insert that particular comment on this post in this thread.
He’s stating that if one abuser can use one child as a victim and another as a shield, maybe a halfway sentient person would extrapolate that just because someone wasn’t abused by a person, that doesn’t refute allegations against that person?
Like, seriously, how bad at reading are you that you’ve missed almost all abusers cultivate people who will say nice things about them, to protect them in the future if the abuse is investigated?
Stop accusing people of not understanding things when you just want them to think the same as you. Someone is accused of something that is your pet subject so you believe them with no evidence, no concurrence from anyone else. Don't expect everyone else to do so.
This thread is about Bing Crosby. There is no other proof. Create a thread about your trauma and dump all you want.
I tell myself that most comments spouting contrarian nonsense (e.g. 'victims of past, long accepted abusers are liars') are just bots. I never saw discourse like that until very recently so I'm not convinced most are natural.
It is debated. A few years after Bing died, his son Gary firmly alleged that he was abusive, both physically & emotionally. As I understand, it was at least partially corroborated by 2 of his other children but flatly denied by a fourth. All of these children were with his first wife.
His second wife and three children with her say the experienced nothing like what Gary alleged. Bing's brother also rejected Gary's accusations saying that Bing was strict similar to other parents of the era, but not abusive.
Gary later said (according to his Wikipedia.article):
Bing "was like a lot of fathers of that time. He was not out to be vicious, to beat children for his kicks
After Gary died, his own son seemed to walk back some of the claims his father made. It seems like modern biographers of Bing also seem to believe Gary's claims to be somewhat exaggerated.
I'm no expert on Crosby; I was in the same boat as you and saw this allegation a year or two ago so read a bit about it. I obviously abhor child abuse and was incredibly disappointed to learn about what Gary.said about his father.
By all accounts, der Bingle was a good dad to his second family. His youngest son insists Bing never hit him. Maybe he realized he made mistakes with his first family and changed for the better.
In a group text this week my mom commented Bing looked so much older than my 51 year old sister (who naturally looks youthful, the jerk she is) and I replied, "drinking and beating your children can age you quickly" and my sister added "smoking didn't help". Then my mom seemed sad we ruined her favorite Christmas movie so we told her it was something funny from family guy. She's religious so it's easy for her to ignore the truth and enjoy her own idea of reality.
Edit- my mom and anyone who knows a little about Crosby knows he beat his kids and was a dick.
This is bullshit. Read a fucking book and not internet trash for points. Garry Giddens biography’s are very good and does get into it. The good and bad. It’s not what you think. But the internet is just modern tabloid journalism for easy points.
For example, I’m sure you also know about John Lennon just absolutely beating the shit out of Cynthia and Julian. Except that’s not exactly true either. Do you know why we know about John being abusive? From John himself who talked about in an interview in 1969/70. He talked about how he was an awful person in his early 20’s. He also talked about how he was really working on being a better person. Which is what we all want right? Someone to see the error of the ways and try to change? The next we hear of it is in Cynthia’s book from 1978. People can read it and see what she says, but they don’t because the internet loves a lynch mob.
This has always bothered me about the discourse around John Lennon. He had a traumatic upbringing and then the cycle continued with him being abusive to his wife and child. BUT he realised this wasn't right and so CHANGED. This should be applauded in any sane society. Unless we don't actually want people to change, and prefer to point fingers instead.
Well, he was born in Tacoma and grew up in Spokane. Hollywood wasn’t Hollywood when he was coming up. It was still new. He spent more time in the Jazz clubs in Chicago and New York. Hoagy Carmichael turned him to pot at a Louis Armstrong show in Chicago in ‘26. If all you know is his kids book, it’s not worth much. You need to dig deeper. Otherwise it’s just hearsay and not worth much. You need multiple perspectives.
It’s horseshit that his kid’s book is “not worth much” when discussing his treatment of his kids. I’m sure a dead domestic abuser appreciates your defense from down below.
Read the Giddens biographies. I guarantee you it’s an even and measured account. You shout if you want to actually look into it. Otherwise, it’s a kid who was cut off and angry.
Wow, this is a lot to defend, arguably not that great of a singer or actor. Like what’s the real reason you feel so strongly about Bing? Are you actually Bing Crosby?
My grandfather was one. He enlisted at 17. He was on the beach in Normandy and before he went home his boots were on German soil. If you ever had the privilege of listening to one of them talk, they will tell you they quickly became men. I will add great men at that. RIP grandpa. Miss you this time of year
My grandfather was also a WW2 vet and also enlisted when he was underage. I’ve found out over the years that was an incredibly common thing. I don’t think the armed forces checked too much into someone’s age, just so long that you were healthy and could carry a gun. My oldest kid is not much younger than my grandfather was when he enlisted and I cannot imagine him going off to war on another continent. He’s still so young.
At the beginning of the war it was much stricter. But as time went on, we were running out of resources and so anyone could enlist.
My grandad was in the British Merchant Navy before WWII broke out. Was torpedo twice (possibly three times, I can't remember the story) very early in the war. He was on shore leave when Dunkirk happened recovering from a torpedo attack. Still jumped in his fishing boat to go and rescue men from Dunkirk. He didn't even do it to be a hero. He just loved sailing and any excuse to be on the water he would jump at it. Due to how much of a target the UK was, non-military sailing opportunities were few and far between. He didn't think twice. Just jumped in his boat and off he went. He was a teenager too.
One of my late grandmas’ brothers was in the merchant navy, on the USS Nereus. The ship vanished in November ´41 between the virgin islands and the mainland, likely torpedoed by an Axis sub. He was 21 years old at the time.
While that’s true and 17 is young, for that time period, it was different. When my grandpa enlisted, he had a job at a mechanic shop that he’d been working at since he was 14 or 15 years old. He was a middle child and his oldest sister helped raise him and all their siblings. He’d been treated like a man, not a child for years prior to enlisting. It was the depression families did what they had to do to make ends meet. Not my family, but people really truly did sell their kids to put food on their tables during that time. My grandpa came home from the war, his mental health was wrecked. He didn’t talk about the war until his cancer became terminal. He’d lived a full live in that mean time. Five kids, worked in an International Harvester factory until it closed and he retired early, he built my mom’s family house with some of his friends from a Sears Catalog. Those guys never really got to be kids because they came up in the aftermath of WWI and came of age during the Great Depression. Seventeen now vs seventeen then are/were entirely different lives
“I do not say that children at war do not die like men, if they have to die. To their everlasting honor and our everlasting shame, they do die like men, thus making possible the manly jubilation of patriotic holidays. But they are murdered children all the same” -Kurt V
Bing Crosby, when his son, Mayor Gary Crosby, published an autobiography titled Going My Own Way. In the book, Gary described his father as a cold, distant, and authoritarian man who beat them with a studded belt until they bled, and who used hurtful nicknames like "Bucket Butt.
"Gary is a whining, bitching crybaby, walking around with a two-by-four on his shoulder and just daring people to nudge it off."[128] Nevertheless, Phillip did not deny that Crosby believed in corporal punishment.[128] In an interview with People magazine, Phillip stated that "we never got an extra whack or a cuff we didn't deserve".
Lol it's called "corporal punishment." Corporate punishment is when your company withholds bonuses and gives out jelly of the month memberships instead.
To them, they don’t view it as abuse, even though it was.
Now this is an extreme here, but if you would’ve asked any of the participants of the Kristallnacht, they would call it justice. No matter how cruel and totally unjust.
The point is moral relativism.
If you go down the rabbit hole of “Well, it was kind a norm at the time” you can justify a whole list of heinous things.
Slavery throughout time.
Any king taking a child bride throughout the medieval ages.
The persecution of any religious minority.
Bing Crosby beating his kids, but furthermore, you could go back to the Ottoman Empire, and justify them keeping their extra sons in house arrest from puberty until death, where they would either be killed by their father or their brother once he took the throne, as to reduce the number of claimants as to reduce the risk of war and even more death.
And again, why shouldn't he? Why is that a bad thing? You refuse to make the actual point you want to make because you're too cowardly to come out and say it lmao.
That's right, Peter. And if your kids give ya any lip, you can beat 'em with a sack of sweet valencia oranges. They won't leave a bruise, and they'll let 'em know who's boss. There's noooo doubt about it.
"We never got an extra whack or a cuff we didn't deserve."
Yeah sounds like his brother Phillip is an asshole like their father, Bing.
Dennis Crosby reportedly "said his older brother (Gary) was the most severely treated of the four boys. 'He got the first licking, and we got the second.'"
So it sounds like Dennis is able to back up what Gary says and why the children may have had different experiences and memories of it.
My grandpa was a WWII vet and he never really spoke about the war and I never really asked. He did tell me about his first Christmas after he joined the navy but before he was deployed. He remembered hearing bing crosby’s white Christmas on the radio and he went to his bunk and cried.
He was the product of his times and upbringing. As was my father, George Washington, JFK, FDR, Obama, Regan, MLK, Mother Theresa and Trump. The positives are always fodder for truths grist mill. Take what you want throw the rest where the tall grass grows
It’s about yearning for the old times and old ways, times when racial hierarchies were more rigid. The movie has a black face performance and performs Mandy. It is an overt nod to the racist minstrel tradition.
Bing Crosby was an alcoholic monster! Always, assaulting his family. Cops were constantly called to his compound in Pebble Beach cuz of his rampages. Never arrested because of his celebrity.
Many of those soldiers were basically children.
Like the children Bing Crosby went home and beat because he was a piece of shit.
Edit; Wow. I didn’t realize there were so many people out there saying “That kid is a liar.” Not just about Crosby, but other known abusers!
I’m sure he choked back tears beating them, though. s/
Him, probably: “Why are you Binging yourself?”
Is this why Microsoft calls their Bing, Bing?
Yeah because of child abuse
Tears of joy.
The reports of the abuse completely tarnished whatever good will I had towards der Bingle
He had some children come out against the ones that claimed abuse and say they never witnessed anything outside of the normal discipline for parents at the time.
Lemme tell you guys. I was also a product of a father that decided I was the one who would get it worse than the rest of my siblings. Wish I could tell you why. I just know my sister who’s the same age range as me doesn’t remember any abuse either.
My dad made a conscious effort to make sure I was the only one suffering. I was his private punching bag.
Not that the rest of my siblings had great lives either. They just weren’t getting beat for washing the dishes wrong.
Ditto. Daddy always had his favorites. One for whipping and one for spoiling.
This is what my mom experienced with her dad, and her younger sister was rarely hit.
My dad also always had the one he attacked and the one he favored. That lasted until we were adults, but the person lowest on the totem pole often switched. Until I became old enough to say fuck it, let’s dance old man.
It's not your fault..
Was there a big age difference between you and your siblings? Reading that I would guess that either he decided for some reason that he was jealous of you or he got some ideas in his head that you may not be his so he was gonna punish you.
With mine it was all psychological and I had the same experience, none of my siblings remember much of it because they weren't the target.
Did you escape making a plane from a radio flyer with your dog?
So you’re projecting?
You should read A Child Called It.
The author was abused to hell by his mother in the most disgusting and cruel ways but didn't lay so much as act cross with his older siblings. After he was finally saved thanks to teachers who saw the signs of his abuse, he asked to visit his family once that he had escaped. His younger sibling, only a toddler when the kid got away, became his mother's replacement punching bag was then the one being starved, beatened, forced to eat his own sick..
But never the older siblings. They got to have a normal childhood.
Someone brought that book to school in elementary, and gosh I read that book way too young.
The frozen hotdogs. Having to touch the stove. Just horrifying beyond comprehension.
Lol what
He’s assuming everyone else is like his dad…
can you point to where they’re saying anything even close to that? or is it more likely that they’re saying just because all the kids in a family aren’t abused, doesn’t mean that one can’t be singled out by a parent?
He’s implying that just because there is no evidence and no one else in Bing's family saw anything that Bing still beat his son like had happened to him. That is why one would insert that particular comment on this post in this thread.
He’s stating that if one abuser can use one child as a victim and another as a shield, maybe a halfway sentient person would extrapolate that just because someone wasn’t abused by a person, that doesn’t refute allegations against that person?
Like, seriously, how bad at reading are you that you’ve missed almost all abusers cultivate people who will say nice things about them, to protect them in the future if the abuse is investigated?
Stop accusing people of not understanding things when you just want them to think the same as you. Someone is accused of something that is your pet subject so you believe them with no evidence, no concurrence from anyone else. Don't expect everyone else to do so.
This thread is about Bing Crosby. There is no other proof. Create a thread about your trauma and dump all you want.
Does it hurt to have a brain the size of a peanut ?
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Yikes dude
I tell myself that most comments spouting contrarian nonsense (e.g. 'victims of past, long accepted abusers are liars') are just bots. I never saw discourse like that until very recently so I'm not convinced most are natural.
Forgive my ignorance, but did he really beat his kids? Kinda (sadly) par for the course back in those days, but didn’t know he was known for that
It is debated. A few years after Bing died, his son Gary firmly alleged that he was abusive, both physically & emotionally. As I understand, it was at least partially corroborated by 2 of his other children but flatly denied by a fourth. All of these children were with his first wife.
His second wife and three children with her say the experienced nothing like what Gary alleged. Bing's brother also rejected Gary's accusations saying that Bing was strict similar to other parents of the era, but not abusive.
Gary later said (according to his Wikipedia.article):
After Gary died, his own son seemed to walk back some of the claims his father made. It seems like modern biographers of Bing also seem to believe Gary's claims to be somewhat exaggerated.
I'm no expert on Crosby; I was in the same boat as you and saw this allegation a year or two ago so read a bit about it. I obviously abhor child abuse and was incredibly disappointed to learn about what Gary.said about his father.
By all accounts, der Bingle was a good dad to his second family. His youngest son insists Bing never hit him. Maybe he realized he made mistakes with his first family and changed for the better.
Kinda falls in line with when he got his drinking under control
I thought his first wife was the alcoholic.
My step dad didn’t beat his kids…
Family guy taught me that one. Use a sack of sweet Valencia oranges, it won’t leave a mark.
In a group text this week my mom commented Bing looked so much older than my 51 year old sister (who naturally looks youthful, the jerk she is) and I replied, "drinking and beating your children can age you quickly" and my sister added "smoking didn't help". Then my mom seemed sad we ruined her favorite Christmas movie so we told her it was something funny from family guy. She's religious so it's easy for her to ignore the truth and enjoy her own idea of reality.
Edit- my mom and anyone who knows a little about Crosby knows he beat his kids and was a dick.
Why are you surprised? Look at the people defending the pdo rapist Dumpster.
Beat ‘em with a sack of sweet Valencia oranges. Won’t leave a bruise and it’ll really show ‘em who’s boss.
Gaht damn I really liked this dudes music. Didn’t know about the violence
Evidently when asked by his siblings why he would make claims of abuse, he said the publisher/writers told him it would make him more money
This is bullshit. Read a fucking book and not internet trash for points. Garry Giddens biography’s are very good and does get into it. The good and bad. It’s not what you think. But the internet is just modern tabloid journalism for easy points.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1295213.Going_My_Own_Way
There’s the book.
I’ll take the first hand account over the swooning biographer.
How many kids of stars wrote damaging books?
Probably a lot. Because Hollywood breeds monsters.
For example, I’m sure you also know about John Lennon just absolutely beating the shit out of Cynthia and Julian. Except that’s not exactly true either. Do you know why we know about John being abusive? From John himself who talked about in an interview in 1969/70. He talked about how he was an awful person in his early 20’s. He also talked about how he was really working on being a better person. Which is what we all want right? Someone to see the error of the ways and try to change? The next we hear of it is in Cynthia’s book from 1978. People can read it and see what she says, but they don’t because the internet loves a lynch mob.
This has always bothered me about the discourse around John Lennon. He had a traumatic upbringing and then the cycle continued with him being abusive to his wife and child. BUT he realised this wasn't right and so CHANGED. This should be applauded in any sane society. Unless we don't actually want people to change, and prefer to point fingers instead.
Well, he was born in Tacoma and grew up in Spokane. Hollywood wasn’t Hollywood when he was coming up. It was still new. He spent more time in the Jazz clubs in Chicago and New York. Hoagy Carmichael turned him to pot at a Louis Armstrong show in Chicago in ‘26. If all you know is his kids book, it’s not worth much. You need to dig deeper. Otherwise it’s just hearsay and not worth much. You need multiple perspectives.
It’s horseshit that his kid’s book is “not worth much” when discussing his treatment of his kids. I’m sure a dead domestic abuser appreciates your defense from down below.
Read the Giddens biographies. I guarantee you it’s an even and measured account. You shout if you want to actually look into it. Otherwise, it’s a kid who was cut off and angry.
So the author you like is a measured account but the one you don’t is an angry kid who was cut off. Got it. Thanks for the info!
Wow, this is a lot to defend, arguably not that great of a singer or actor. Like what’s the real reason you feel so strongly about Bing? Are you actually Bing Crosby?
Merry Christmas!
I hate calling them troops. They are boys. They are their mother's children
My grandfather was one. He enlisted at 17. He was on the beach in Normandy and before he went home his boots were on German soil. If you ever had the privilege of listening to one of them talk, they will tell you they quickly became men. I will add great men at that. RIP grandpa. Miss you this time of year
My grandfather was also a WW2 vet and also enlisted when he was underage. I’ve found out over the years that was an incredibly common thing. I don’t think the armed forces checked too much into someone’s age, just so long that you were healthy and could carry a gun. My oldest kid is not much younger than my grandfather was when he enlisted and I cannot imagine him going off to war on another continent. He’s still so young.
At the beginning of the war it was much stricter. But as time went on, we were running out of resources and so anyone could enlist.
My grandad was in the British Merchant Navy before WWII broke out. Was torpedo twice (possibly three times, I can't remember the story) very early in the war. He was on shore leave when Dunkirk happened recovering from a torpedo attack. Still jumped in his fishing boat to go and rescue men from Dunkirk. He didn't even do it to be a hero. He just loved sailing and any excuse to be on the water he would jump at it. Due to how much of a target the UK was, non-military sailing opportunities were few and far between. He didn't think twice. Just jumped in his boat and off he went. He was a teenager too.
One of my late grandmas’ brothers was in the merchant navy, on the USS Nereus. The ship vanished in November ´41 between the virgin islands and the mainland, likely torpedoed by an Axis sub. He was 21 years old at the time.
While that’s true and 17 is young, for that time period, it was different. When my grandpa enlisted, he had a job at a mechanic shop that he’d been working at since he was 14 or 15 years old. He was a middle child and his oldest sister helped raise him and all their siblings. He’d been treated like a man, not a child for years prior to enlisting. It was the depression families did what they had to do to make ends meet. Not my family, but people really truly did sell their kids to put food on their tables during that time. My grandpa came home from the war, his mental health was wrecked. He didn’t talk about the war until his cancer became terminal. He’d lived a full live in that mean time. Five kids, worked in an International Harvester factory until it closed and he retired early, he built my mom’s family house with some of his friends from a Sears Catalog. Those guys never really got to be kids because they came up in the aftermath of WWI and came of age during the Great Depression. Seventeen now vs seventeen then are/were entirely different lives
My grandfather and his best friend fought the Japanese in China when they were 16 and 15 respectively.
They both got to fulfill the American dream, thankfully!
It really was a privilege. Most of those old guys are gone, now. I’ll pour one out for grandpa Keith, tonight.
“I do not say that children at war do not die like men, if they have to die. To their everlasting honor and our everlasting shame, they do die like men, thus making possible the manly jubilation of patriotic holidays. But they are murdered children all the same” -Kurt V
And 60% of them were enslaved into the war
But they are troops. Way is fought by the young.
Bing Crosby, when his son, Mayor Gary Crosby, published an autobiography titled Going My Own Way. In the book, Gary described his father as a cold, distant, and authoritarian man who beat them with a studded belt until they bled, and who used hurtful nicknames like "Bucket Butt.
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His siblings were in favor of child beatings:
"Gary is a whining, bitching crybaby, walking around with a two-by-four on his shoulder and just daring people to nudge it off."[128] Nevertheless, Phillip did not deny that Crosby believed in corporal punishment.[128] In an interview with People magazine, Phillip stated that "we never got an extra whack or a cuff we didn't deserve".
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Corporal punishment is by no means of the way.
It results in nothing more than an erosion of trust, low self-esteem, and typically heightened aggression in kids.
It’s built on nothing but bullshit. Beating them with a strap or belt was callous and cruel within any context.
It’s weak to beat a child.
Lol it's called "corporal punishment." Corporate punishment is when your company withholds bonuses and gives out jelly of the month memberships instead.
r/BoneAppleTea for that blunder on my part lol
It’s the gift that keeps on giving !
Obviously that it well known now, but it was the norm 75 years ago, if not more recent.
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To them, they don’t view it as abuse, even though it was.
Now this is an extreme here, but if you would’ve asked any of the participants of the Kristallnacht, they would call it justice. No matter how cruel and totally unjust.
The point is moral relativism.
If you go down the rabbit hole of “Well, it was kind a norm at the time” you can justify a whole list of heinous things.
Slavery throughout time.
Any king taking a child bride throughout the medieval ages.
The persecution of any religious minority.
Bing Crosby beating his kids, but furthermore, you could go back to the Ottoman Empire, and justify them keeping their extra sons in house arrest from puberty until death, where they would either be killed by their father or their brother once he took the throne, as to reduce the number of claimants as to reduce the risk of war and even more death.
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Yep but I’m sure his son still took his inheritance
He didn’t, they were estranged
And? If I had a shitty dad who abused and beat me and never changed or apologized I would want a payout for it too
Exactly my point. He took the money.
And again, why shouldn't he? Why is that a bad thing? You refuse to make the actual point you want to make because you're too cowardly to come out and say it lmao.
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That’s no excuse.
He didn't, its the only reason he wrote that book
He was choking back tears because his knuckles hurt so bad.
From beating his kids.
Fuck Bing Crosby.
"You giving me lip boy?"
“You giving me lip buh-buh-buh-buh-boy?”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3E37RmfgK0o
There were a lot of women that did that , he and Bob Hope used to have competitions.
No one names their kid bing anymore, thanks a lot Microsoft
That’s pretty heartbreaking to read
Almost as heartbreaking as reading about the times Bing Crosby beat up his kids
You give "Man gets thrill out of telling people John Lennon beat his wife" vibes
I don’t know who this guy is/was, but after a minute in this thread, safe to say he beat his kids.
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Damn you’re really defending a child abuser
Oh hey, thanks for correcting us, kind redditor.
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1983/03/14/Crosbys-children-claim-he-abused-them/5007660964411/
Then he went home and beat his kids. Merry Christmas.
That's right, Peter. And if your kids give ya any lip, you can beat 'em with a sack of sweet valencia oranges. They won't leave a bruise, and they'll let 'em know who's boss. There's noooo doubt about it.
B(eat)ing (His Kids) Crosby
Okay, I need to eat his kids. Never considered myself a cannibal, but Shia Laboeuf has been an inspiration.
(S)he (s)hit her(self)
wasn't he infamous for choking his own children?
You mean this Bing Cosby?
When i listen to him i remember how he destroyed his family
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I grew up in the fifties. His abuse was well documented. He was cruel
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Yeah sounds like his brother Phillip is an asshole like their father, Bing.
So it sounds like Dennis is able to back up what Gary says and why the children may have had different experiences and memories of it.
And two of them committed suicide. So sounds happy.
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Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm still sounds like the guy sucked.
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From child beater to still a child beater. Sucks to know that about your hero was a piece of shiiitee.
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Oh yeah that is a totally exonerating statement! No further questions. /s
I didn't include it because it isn't substantive whatsoever.
Gary’s brothers backed him up. The second family disputes it, but they weren’t there, were they?
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Research it. It was well known at the time. It is documented on the internet.
I wonder if he choked back tears while beating his children?
Then he went back and abused his kids!
Read Bing Crosby's wiki page, dont let the reddit hive mind tell you what to think.
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1983/03/14/Crosbys-children-claim-he-abused-them/5007660964411/
Why did he kill them? Weren’t they clapping or something?
When I started to read the headline I thought the last two words were gonna be "his kids".
My grandpa was a WWII vet and he never really spoke about the war and I never really asked. He did tell me about his first Christmas after he joined the navy but before he was deployed. He remembered hearing bing crosby’s white Christmas on the radio and he went to his bunk and cried.
Then he went home and beat his kids with a bag of Valencia oranges.
I love how this turned into a Shit on Bing thread!
He was the product of his times and upbringing. As was my father, George Washington, JFK, FDR, Obama, Regan, MLK, Mother Theresa and Trump. The positives are always fodder for truths grist mill. Take what you want throw the rest where the tall grass grows
Every funeral needs a sermon..thanks Bing..
White Christmas is a racism inspired song. Bing Crosby does black face in the movie ffs.
It’s not about wanting snow on Christmas Day?🥹
It’s about yearning for the old times and old ways, times when racial hierarchies were more rigid. The movie has a black face performance and performs Mandy. It is an overt nod to the racist minstrel tradition.
I swear, people want to find racism so bad in things that aren't there. That songs about snow.
Racists are still human.
Bing Crosby was an alcoholic monster! Always, assaulting his family. Cops were constantly called to his compound in Pebble Beach cuz of his rampages. Never arrested because of his celebrity.
Cing Brosby didn't play
He should have kicked the shit out of that David Bowie punk.