What the fuck is going on in the UK? Why are they all of a sudden making oligarchs blush with how quickly they are trying to achieve an Orwellian hellscape?
The UK is a totalitarian dictatorship, but the worst kind, anarcho-tyranny.
Anarcho-tyranny is gaining a foothold in the US as well, but further along in the UK.
Anarcho-tyranny is the unique combination of extreme rule enforcement and extreme lack of rule enforcement, usually selectively. Like in the UK, you utter wrong-think, you are going to prison. But if you rob or stab someone, leniency is the rule, if the cops even show up when you report it.
You could also call it "Swiss cheese society" - there's segments of society and aspects of the law where law enforcement is extremely strict. And then there's the segments of society where law enforcement is basically nonexistent.
The police is basically overwhelmed by severe crime, and has reacted to that by cutting back on addressing anything involving gangs and violent career criminals.
But speeding tickets, though? Those are a low-risk source of income, so they get enforced with maximum priority.
An additional factor is that the judiciary and the law simply don't have what it takes to deal with organized crime and genuinely dangerous individuals. A year-long prison sentence is a deterrent to a law-abiding citizen without a criminal record - but it's laughable to a career criminal.
To varying extents, this situation also exists throughout continental Western Europe.
Sam Francis wrote a long piece about anarcho-tyranny in a syndicated news column in the early 90s. I read it a few years ago, a great read and I'm pretty sure it is still online.
Your examples are perfect. That is exactly what it is. But I think the speech crime aspect is most illustrative.
Interesting they mention desktop environments, it'd be difficult to enforce it for every flavour of linux not only that it'd be more difficult to ensure it's not removed post installation somehow.
Yeah we'll see which is more convincing to big tech, EU-style "we'll fine you a zillion dollars per violation" or Brexit's straightens tie "now listen here, good chaps..."
I don't think it's a bad thing for any company or corporation to have fines that are significant for actual misconduct. If it's for frivolous reasons, then that's obviously bad, but America has a history of very slap on the wrist fines for corporations' misconduct. Exxon barely suffered financially at all from the Valdez disaster. They still turned a huge profit that far exceeded their fines, and thats fairly par for the course here.
I’m sure a Minister recently announced they were also going to announce a requirement for a common phone charger. USB C is it yeah? Better be, otherwise it ain’t happening!
What's mad is that many places won't even let you buy a phone (or set up an internet connection) if you're under 18. It would be very easy for ISPs and mobile providers to set up some sort of end-user verification system that's based on profiles administrated by the 'verified 18+' person that the contract is actually with, but I think governments would just prefer to have our internet history tied to our IDs under the guise of 'protecting kids'
Well aware of the global mass surveillance initiatives. Just surprised at the speed the UK is moving on it, after already having cameras everywhere for years.
These “censorship” initiates are just a way to get a foot in the door on your phones to be able to identify you if you want to organize against power.
All the initiatives add up to being able to de-anonymize you so that you can be pinned down at any moment for any reason.
This shit has been constant battle here in the US for years.
A lot of us are wondering, there seems to be a crazy pish for mass surveillance worldwide and it is not a natural move. I'd like to know who's paying the labour peers backing this and also Blair.
It’s not goody two shoes it’s just companies like palantir that see mass surveillance as a profitable business model. Your politicians are showing you who they really work for.
Nah, I wouldn't put it beyond them but I think this comes from ham-fisted, over caring rather than enabling mass data harvesting. Altho the result's the same
Encourage = force
I don't care, I don't use my phone for porn, the screen is too small.
The country UK won't be encouraging the nudity block, do you mean the Government?
What's wrong with nudity?
WONT SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE KIDS
Trump does
Apple has already made its phones unsecure worldwide because of the UK.
Apple and Google need to pull out of the UK market. It is a totalitarian dictatorship anyway.
time to dust off up my DVD player
What the fuck is going on in the UK? Why are they all of a sudden making oligarchs blush with how quickly they are trying to achieve an Orwellian hellscape?
The UK is a totalitarian dictatorship, but the worst kind, anarcho-tyranny.
Anarcho-tyranny is gaining a foothold in the US as well, but further along in the UK.
Anarcho-tyranny is the unique combination of extreme rule enforcement and extreme lack of rule enforcement, usually selectively. Like in the UK, you utter wrong-think, you are going to prison. But if you rob or stab someone, leniency is the rule, if the cops even show up when you report it.
You could also call it "Swiss cheese society" - there's segments of society and aspects of the law where law enforcement is extremely strict. And then there's the segments of society where law enforcement is basically nonexistent.
The police is basically overwhelmed by severe crime, and has reacted to that by cutting back on addressing anything involving gangs and violent career criminals.
But speeding tickets, though? Those are a low-risk source of income, so they get enforced with maximum priority.
An additional factor is that the judiciary and the law simply don't have what it takes to deal with organized crime and genuinely dangerous individuals. A year-long prison sentence is a deterrent to a law-abiding citizen without a criminal record - but it's laughable to a career criminal.
To varying extents, this situation also exists throughout continental Western Europe.
Sam Francis wrote a long piece about anarcho-tyranny in a syndicated news column in the early 90s. I read it a few years ago, a great read and I'm pretty sure it is still online.
Your examples are perfect. That is exactly what it is. But I think the speech crime aspect is most illustrative.
They imprison people for wrongthink and speech they don't like. The country has been dead for a while now.
why even have a phone at that point
Interesting they mention desktop environments, it'd be difficult to enforce it for every flavour of linux not only that it'd be more difficult to ensure it's not removed post installation somehow.
Another chance for Brexit Britain to discover how much power it has to influence anyone to do anything…
Yeah we'll see which is more convincing to big tech, EU-style "we'll fine you a zillion dollars per violation" or Brexit's straightens tie "now listen here, good chaps..."
I don't think it's a bad thing for any company or corporation to have fines that are significant for actual misconduct. If it's for frivolous reasons, then that's obviously bad, but America has a history of very slap on the wrist fines for corporations' misconduct. Exxon barely suffered financially at all from the Valdez disaster. They still turned a huge profit that far exceeded their fines, and thats fairly par for the course here.
I’m sure a Minister recently announced they were also going to announce a requirement for a common phone charger. USB C is it yeah? Better be, otherwise it ain’t happening!
I would be less furious if this was implemented like buying alcohol; the shop checks your over 18 and you walk out with a working product.
What's mad is that many places won't even let you buy a phone (or set up an internet connection) if you're under 18. It would be very easy for ISPs and mobile providers to set up some sort of end-user verification system that's based on profiles administrated by the 'verified 18+' person that the contract is actually with, but I think governments would just prefer to have our internet history tied to our IDs under the guise of 'protecting kids'
What is going on in the UK?
it's not just UK, it's everyone started repeat after Russia and North Korea
Well aware of the global mass surveillance initiatives. Just surprised at the speed the UK is moving on it, after already having cameras everywhere for years.
These “censorship” initiates are just a way to get a foot in the door on your phones to be able to identify you if you want to organize against power.
All the initiatives add up to being able to de-anonymize you so that you can be pinned down at any moment for any reason.
This shit has been constant battle here in the US for years.
Almost like books were written on this.
And by British authors too.
A lot of us are wondering, there seems to be a crazy pish for mass surveillance worldwide and it is not a natural move. I'd like to know who's paying the labour peers backing this and also Blair.
Well, all of the major superpowers are dictatorships or steering into one. There's a lot of people we could accuse, maybe all at once
The Goody Two-Shoes lot have formed a human centipede with their heads up each other's arseholes
It’s not goody two shoes it’s just companies like palantir that see mass surveillance as a profitable business model. Your politicians are showing you who they really work for.
Nah, I wouldn't put it beyond them but I think this comes from ham-fisted, over caring rather than enabling mass data harvesting. Altho the result's the same
First they came for my nudity, and I said nothing
Because you're a never-nude?