I’m all for government stupidity and exposing whoever, but I think there’s a conspiracy within this itself.
According to the world of x and TikTok, the reason they were able to copy and paste the redactions was because Elon Musk cancelled the adobe subscription and they “goofed” when they saved the files.
Why is it that if they goofed so bad that you can just copy and paste MOST of it, but certain things are properly redacted. It’s almost as if they wanted you to see this information and kept the real shit hidden. Like an agenda to expose a portion of it specifically.
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Don't listent to fucking tiktok. God I hope you don't think there is any truth or reality to the subscription thing, lol.
This is likely incompetence but could also be people inside wanting this shit exposed, not wanting to be part of the cover up. I'm sure someone will get fired or worse for this.
I kinda like your idea here
Sure the government is MOSTLY evil, but I don't think it's everyone
My brother used to be a naval master at arms, he's not evil
Those are the two most logical options.
Most people have a conscious, and most of the competent government workforce got fired by Elon.
I don’t necessarily listen to TikTok, however it would be stupid to discount good information in general. But I do recall Elon cancelling the adobe subscription at Doge and can see that being a scapegoat as the reason 🤷♂️
Like I said, it’s strange that some things aren’t able to be unredacted though if the incompetence was that severe
Good information should never be used in the same sentence with tik tok.
You’re right bro, cuz Reddit is much better
Comparatively… yes, sister.
With the amount of propaganda bots, it’s roughly the same
I don’t understand the hate for TikTok on this app, it must not be from people that know how to use it to find actually useful info. It’s how I was able to awaken. Plus I’ve seen more on the ground reporting there than anywhere else. Well, until this year anyway :/
My friend, tiktok was designed to disrupt Western democracies. The algorithms. Reddit communities are moderated by the users who manage them. Very very different.
If you think Reddit is very very different and moderated by the users then you have some more digging to do.
No it's not, you can actually tell on reddit if a person is a bot or not. Tiktok is just brainrot.
DOGE did cut subscriptions to Adobe but it was because they realized they were paying for tens of thousands of unused licenses across a bunch of different agencies. It would be really weird if they just swore off Adobe for a giant project involving PDFs instead of just adding licenses if needed. But who knows. These people are weird.
I've had a look at a PDF. The methods used to redact text were amateuristic and inconsistent. As if given the order to censor the files and told to figure it out themselves, without any proper instructions on how to use Acrobat.
Not only did they not use the proper way to redact. They placed black rectangles on top, but sometimes also under the text. Just extremely sloppy.
They then neglected to flatten the file before exporting, leaving text and rectangles intact as separate editable elements.
It all just screams incompetence. People inexperienced with Acrobat overestimating themselves.
Trust me it's by design its another PSYOP
I think you're underestimating how dense some people are. We had a solar eclipse in like 2015 or 16, visible in the UK, and I worked in aerospace at the time. I saw people look directly at the sun through gaps in their fingers, another guy had slits in cardboard, these people were engineers, technical experts etc
I worked in IT in aerospace too, "my emails aren't working". One guy had his phone in airplane mode, another guy had his inbox sorted by oldest emails first.
“Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.”
or it's malicious compliance, and someone did this intentionally
I'm from the UK as well and I 100% remember people doing silly things like this 😂 however I never saw anyone I would consider intelligent do the above things you said that is crazy man!
Yeh I work in IT on a support desk so I understand all about the intelligent people not being able to do basics on a computer 😂.
Honestly I had to stop working in IT, it was soul destroying haha
Same here. Although I rebuilt my soul back up afterwards.
I'm not too convinced. Think you're giving them too much credit.
This looks like one of those typical cases of ignorant "management" arrogantly cutting costs, but on a government scale. Ignoring professional advice and ordering layoffs, only for it to come back and bite them in the ass.
The inconsistencies in censoring methods within the same file are easily explained by incompetence. Possibly done by different people who figured out their own wrong 'methods' while being completely unaware that elements in Acrobat basically exist on layers and can be edited if not properly secured and exported.
From what I've seen so far, it's really just a massive fuck up. I might have a more thorough look through more of the file(s) later and see what else stands out.
I hear your point and I understand completely why you would feel that way. Im just not convinced it could be a huge fuck up seems far too "convenient".
This also could just be used as another method to divide us as well remember that ? There could be massive division with in the community off the basis that they are really stupid and don't know how to redact properly vs this is just a PSYOP to divert attention.
you underestimate how stupid some people are lol
Maybe someone working with trump wanted to expose him for being a pedo?
Honestly? Probably because they had different people working on different datasets with different levels of competence.
Here’s the thing I don’t get. I’m pretty darn sure that if you highlight text with black in acrobat, you receive a warning pop up saying that it’s not an actual redaction, prompting you to use the redact tool. Someone would have had to ignore that pop up to save it as-is.
I agree. Seems a little to easy. Almost like they need good evidence out on DT being guilty without a doubt in the public eye. This helps 2 ways. Other people involved likely don’t get brought up and called out now, they get missed because everyone is just looking for trumps name and then they will move on . Two, this is perfect timing for them to move the Maga vote to JD vance with the endorsement for his election starting.
I think the second point is the most important. DJTs mental decline is going to fast for the Project 2025 shadow-government and now they get ready to put Vance in his position.
They knew about this issue over a decade ago.
https://www.washingtontechnology.com/2009/12/in-wake-of-tsa-breach-a-refresher-on-redacting-pdfs/322955/
Epic
I download the Obama birth certificate from official gov website and it too had layered edits that was just to easy to see. That debacle was enough for the white house to know exactly what they were doing this time for sure. My guess is both times. This another look right here and what the fuck are you going to do about it? Nothing!!
I like to think they did it on purpose, inconsistent to look like incompetence and some properly redacted to protect victims maybe.
it could also be people resisting Trump by redacting it wrong
LOL this was not by accident. watch wag the dog. Shit like this is always planned beforehand.
I thought it might be related to Bongino’s exit stage right.
Poor employee training leads to inconsistency. You give people an objective without explicit means to implement, and they will each find their own way to arrive at the goal you set. That extends to the people who test others’ work too.
If your objective is “make line of text look black” and somebody else is verifying “yes it does look black”, you’re going to get this situation some of the time.
One way big organizations solve this is to standardize around a specific product and process, and add more specific goals and metrics to verify it was done right. (Instead of “verify that line is black”, you now have “copy and paste text; verify that every character has been replaced with an X”, as an additional requirement; and the process becomes specifically “redact the text using this specific button in Adobe”).
One way big organizations fail is to cut a tool out of a critical workflow without providing an adequate replacement, or without properly training employees to use the replacement. Or if there’s poor documentation, you end up with everybody getting trained on a new tool and/or process that doesn’t meet all the old requirements. (Ie “oh we can take out the ‘every character replaced by X rule. That was an Adobe thing. Just make sure the line looks black”. The person making the decision doesn’t know the reason the old rule was in place, and makes an incorrect assumption about it)
Anyhow, at the end of the day you might have some employees who end up doing it right despite the poor process, while others are doing it wrong, leading to inconsistent results.
I don’t know specifics about how much of that happened, but it certainly could have.
Trump is a sick man. Epstein too
You mean, a conspiracy of the conspiracy. Getting weird complicated tbh...
My theory on all of it;
Career agents who do not align with the administration and know that Trump deserve to be in prison are purposely sabotaging the releases to ensure as much disclosure as possible while not incriminating themselves. They’re playing dumb so that the truth can be revealed.
This is exactly the answer.
Has there been a single thing this admin has done competently?
I'd like to believe the people being payed to redact this have a heart and intentionally did a sloppy job.
110% agree this whole thing is fake and meant to be used as a distraction.
It's not fake. Your president is a pedo, the true pedoelite
But what has been found after the copy and paste. I see nothing fundamental has not revealed
Almost as if they were...intended to be found?
“Consistency has never been a mark of stupidity. If they were merely stupid, they would occasionally make a mistake in our favor.”
-James V. Forrestal
1st Secretary of Defense
When my brother used to take heroine, he would tell us he was as tripping on mushrooms (and would say it like he way finally being honest). Then we wouldnt catch on to the fact that he was addicted to something way worse, that caused way more dark and seedy situations for him. Instead we were viewing him as just tripping his balls off and really stupid but weren't looking for further reasons to get involved or help him. That's what the government is doing right now. This is intended to get us to full stop finding other people involved that we may have not even thought of.
The name of the game is put out good information with the bad information so you never know which one is real.
The poorly redacted pages were released in 2023 apparently. Not government redactions. They received the files that way, just like everyone else.
There are only 2 points of thought. Both are bad. Either:
Am I missing anything?