My problem with this is simple: Epstein had dirt on hundreds of powerful people at least, but somehow he couldn't leverage any of it to get out of being killed in his cell? No "dead man's switch" was activated? No automatic release by friends or even some automated system? Nothing about this makes sense.
Instead, we're supposed to believe that a guy with this much blackmail data just allowed himself to be caged like an animal and strangled in his cell. I reject the absurdity of the official claims on this matter. Epstein is still alive and he probably walked into Kash Patel's office and gave him the "we can get you anywhere" talk.
I don't think you get it. The people who are actually in charge still have this on Donald Trump. He was still the president even if Epstein is dead. It fixed Epstein coming out with it, but that's it. He wasn't number one, he was number two.
Now you can imagine whoever you want who was #1, but whoever that person, country, organization or whatever is, they still have the same compromat on Donald Trump. So everything worked out right, just that they don't have their guy still.
I'm very willing to bet that there is a new guy somewhere that we don't know about yet.
Yes I was simplifying it as best as I could. Just saying there was someone above Epstein that has control over these things, an organization of some sort. He supplies the kompromat, they protect him up until a point and enable his sick desires. The point was reached where he wasn't protected anymore, but they still hold the cards that were dealt.
You're thinking too small. This isn't mafia this is like 5 steps above that, with people who had near total influence over entire countries. There would be no Deadman's switch that wouldn't be intercepted and stopped because they'd use the full force of many entire nations intelligence agency resources to stop it.
Our elites couldn't even take down the Russians even though they're mostly using 1970s technology. I am certain our leaders are spoiled children with lots of power, but limited wisdom.
Epstein most likely relied on Maxwell, who cut a separate shady deal with Trump. If Maxwell was safeguarding Epsteinās private trove of blackmail then keeping Epstein alive was no longer necessary.
This would make sense to me. Remember how Trumpās pedo birthday poem to Epstein got leaked right before she was sent to the minimum security prison (in violation of federal law)? She sent a message to Trump so he keeps his side of the bargain.
Michael Wolff has said his sources in the Trump admin believe that leak came from Maxwell.
Maxwell was in prison, but is now allowed to go home each day on āwork releaseā despite the fact she doesnāt work. Which again, is a violation of federal law for her to be granted that.
Whatever you believe, here is the uncomfortable truth: our current DOJ is a criminal organization tasked with protecting a child trafficking, pedophile POTUS.
Their only other directive is exacting revenge on Trumpās foes.
I get that they werenāt perfect before but this is a staggering, massive change for that institution. Garland was too cowardly to even investigate Trump because he thought it would look partisan.
Now the FBI & DOJ donāt give AF that they are openly acting as a pedo-protecting Gestapo force. Most successful cult in human history.
Epstein is dead along with justice for the victims, his handlers didnāt need him anymore. Epstein wasnāt his own person and was just a perverted asset that could be leveraged to manufacture evils that can be hung over the heads of heads of states, tech bros, bankers, and other elites. The truth is the world is governed by powerful pedophiles and the CIA and Mossad are more than happy to oblige in evil desires of men if it means they have blackmail.
I even agree that Epstein wasn't "the man". I think Maxwell probably outranked him and had the legacy intelligence ties. It still makes no sense that he'd be so passive about all of this.
You have no idea the capabilities of our "intelligence agencies". They can squash what they want as dis or mis information, but that kill switch also works on valid legal claims. Why else did they move to block/censor TikTok and dozens of news outlets? Because information and knowledge is power, and those of us that can see the connections are under attack.
They are hoping that everyone that has the attention of a Snapchat will remain as such. Smarter dissidents remain silent.
I have watched our "intelligence community" bumble their way around the globe for decades. They are evil, craven, and utterly controlled by mafia. There are a few talents among them, but it can't be easy to have a good talent pool when you want someone who is really smart but also willing to do absolutely anything you command of them.
I assume it'd be incredibly difficult to create a dead man's switch when youre in that group. Im sure youre monitored 24/7. The first glimpse youre going to speak someone's name, youre done
You donāt think the vast resources of the US intelligence community could not discover and render inert any deadman switch, under the direction of the president?
I think jeff is still alive and his brother knows that. He will always side with jeff. Their bubba convo was released and he said it wasnt clinton lol. I dont think epstein would talk to kash patel at this point lol. Heād prob just talk to China and let China handle it lol
Realistically, because he got such lenient treated when he was arrested in Florida, Epstien probably thought the last thing that was going to happen was that someone would try to kill him.
You mentioned Epstein not having a dead manās switch. I like the theory that Covid was someoneās lab made dead man switch, or more likely a distraction to take momentum away from this case. More likely it was Bill Gates or our own intel agencies who funded or green lit the release of Covid as a distraction/dead man switch. Epstein getting killed or getting away with a body double was maybe another piece of the plan to snuff out his cooperation to save himself the hardest time. All of it , covid and Epstein death, was happening in the fall of 2019
Can you link where this is in the files? Interesting post if true, just a lot of people have been posting things claiming they are in the files lately with no source.
I feel like I'm eating crazy pills. How is it that half of people don't understand what is going on? How clear can this be before people start reacting? This isn't even a new clip, it's been out since forever.
SS: Trump is BFF's with Epstein. Trump names Bill Barr (whose dad hired Epstein as a high school teacher) as DOJ director. Epstein dies in Bill Barr's jail right before he is about to squeal.
it's interesting that there was a dispute between Barr and the rest of the board the year before, which caused Barr to retire and this person Epstein to be hired without credentials.
you think Barr's last accomplishment was to get him hired, or to fight him from being hired?
Barr retired in Feb of '74, Epstein was hired to start in Sept of '74. Barr retired because he felt a lack of control over the school.
Trump is the biggest scandal to ever happen to the USA. Trump want to make History, as the sick narcissist that he is, well he will make History for sure, for the worse politician to ever walk in D.C.
anyone with a brain knew that since before his first term... But it seems a lot of Americans are brainless
Because he made the stupid decision of appointing Merrick Garland as AG, wasn't strong enough to assert control of the DOJ himself, and wanted to be an uncontroversial "unity" president. Plus, people on both sides would be implicated of course.
Yep. fwiw this is what Kamala said when recently asked about it:
āTo give you an answer that will not satisfy your curiosity, we - perhaps to our damage - but we strongly, and rightly, believed that there should be an absolute separation between what we wanted as an administration and what the Department of Justice did,ā said Kamla Harris.
Kimmel asked Harris if she believed the Trump administration would release the Epstein files. She said that it was imperative for Donald Trump, who ran a campaign on the Epstein files, to deliver on his promise. But she also asserted that Trump was weaponising the Department of Justice and using it for his own vendetta, which the Biden administration never did.
the trial was going on at the time wasn't it? Also Biden didn't run on Epstein stuff, Trump did. And the Biden admin thought the Trump threat was basically gone and done, until like 2023 or 2024.
Too bad companies selling information to third parties don't redact the cellular telephone number, email account, and IP addresses. They can even find the names of my first pet and favorite TV series!
Why it it deemed something redacted in this case, while they can freely sell mine and compromise my security?
It's very clear that some of these companies have been aiding any foreign group with very little restraint and giving them access to customer information while having very little regard for the security of their accounts, yet being aware of their own internal account recovery practices. It's not like you can really do anything to prevent someone from taking a photo of your vehicle and posting such images to their accounts, yet you often see these questions pop up!
Not only is Trump a disgusting Pedophile, he's a cold blooded killer. An independent investigation needs to also be opened up on Ivana's 'fall' down the stairs.
I donāt think Epstein is dead. There is no footage of his cell, and the missing gap is suspicious. Look at the ears from the dead body and compare with Epstein. The ears donāt match. Epstein is probably on an island somewhere or holed up in Israel.
This is all BS. It doesn't matter who says what. If it is sworn testimony or just wild rumors. What matters is that the FBI found all the rooms in Manhattan wired for video, but they say they didn't seize any videos.
Whoever has those videos is who is calling the shots.Lists and the shit being released don't mean squat.
Iām starting to get real suspicious of this guy. How is it that he knows all of this stuff and he hasnāt been investigated to see what his level of involvement is?
But on a side note, someone in trumps admin had to have been dirty, whether it was him directly or someone else to pull off what they did.
But I donāt really believe heās dead though, I think they got him out instead.
The Dems are hilarious, they've spent their whole lives about how conspiracy are a stupid right thing, and now that the confirmation is out, they're only bringing Trump into the mix, becoming the sickest theorists in existence. Haha, the true defenders of criminal corruption are always you in history. but you'll all be fooled by your stupidity.
This reeks as bullshit. "...he was about to name names...." c'mon man. The spooks are just opening up a new angle on JE's non-suicide and the fact he's still alive. Are we to believe Mark would fill out an FBI web form about this? Seriously.
Now that the "Epstein files" are public, anyone can put something together like this and make it look like it's some part of it and deserving legitimacy. Dangerous times for lovers of truth.
Honest question, what makes you still believe a single word he says? Can count a thousand times but today he literally said he never went on Epsteins plane.
There is literal proof he did. They have proof of over 20 times one yearā¦.i think he would remember that.
Thatās one I could name 1,000ā¦ why do you believe him any of the time? Just one lie makes your entity testimony subject to being ignored in court. And he does it to the public every chance he gets.
You think heās a good person to be in that role?not a good person, he obviously isnāt, but a good person for that position?
Your tag is donāt be a sheep, I suggest you follow yourself, look at bill Clinton, why donāt you democrats say anything about bill clinton in those files? Maybe itās bc you donāt have Clinton syndrome
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My problem with this is simple: Epstein had dirt on hundreds of powerful people at least, but somehow he couldn't leverage any of it to get out of being killed in his cell? No "dead man's switch" was activated? No automatic release by friends or even some automated system? Nothing about this makes sense.
Instead, we're supposed to believe that a guy with this much blackmail data just allowed himself to be caged like an animal and strangled in his cell. I reject the absurdity of the official claims on this matter. Epstein is still alive and he probably walked into Kash Patel's office and gave him the "we can get you anywhere" talk.
Kash: š š
He always looks like he shit himself at Applebees and is too embarrassed to clean up.
Loll
Itās comments like this that make me pissed off that the subs moderators donāt allow awards. This is solid gold right here lmao
Haha Iām here all week.
He literally looks like that, how!
I think you're confused.
It was not a personal blackmail operation.
It was (and likely still is) a highly sophisticated, state sponsored intelligence operation.
There would be no dead man's switch - would defeat the point.
That's not how mafia works. Epstein wasn't a "fall on my sword" kind of guy.
I don't think you get it. The people who are actually in charge still have this on Donald Trump. He was still the president even if Epstein is dead. It fixed Epstein coming out with it, but that's it. He wasn't number one, he was number two.
Now you can imagine whoever you want who was #1, but whoever that person, country, organization or whatever is, they still have the same compromat on Donald Trump. So everything worked out right, just that they don't have their guy still.
I'm very willing to bet that there is a new guy somewhere that we don't know about yet.
Personally, I very much doubt Epstein was number two. As the figure very much in the public eye, he'd be at the absolute bottom of the list.
It all goes back to the Panama papers.
Or Pandora papers
Ghislain was number one. She's getting special treatment.
Yes I was simplifying it as best as I could. Just saying there was someone above Epstein that has control over these things, an organization of some sort. He supplies the kompromat, they protect him up until a point and enable his sick desires. The point was reached where he wasn't protected anymore, but they still hold the cards that were dealt.
If ever
You're thinking too small. This isn't mafia this is like 5 steps above that, with people who had near total influence over entire countries. There would be no Deadman's switch that wouldn't be intercepted and stopped because they'd use the full force of many entire nations intelligence agency resources to stop it.
Our elites couldn't even take down the Russians even though they're mostly using 1970s technology. I am certain our leaders are spoiled children with lots of power, but limited wisdom.
I think youāre the one confused buddy
Thanks Champ.
Epstein most likely relied on Maxwell, who cut a separate shady deal with Trump. If Maxwell was safeguarding Epsteinās private trove of blackmail then keeping Epstein alive was no longer necessary.
This would make sense to me. Remember how Trumpās pedo birthday poem to Epstein got leaked right before she was sent to the minimum security prison (in violation of federal law)? She sent a message to Trump so he keeps his side of the bargain.
Michael Wolff has said his sources in the Trump admin believe that leak came from Maxwell.
All speculation though.
This is all assuming Maxwell is also actually in prison.
Maxwell was in prison, but is now allowed to go home each day on āwork releaseā despite the fact she doesnāt work. Which again, is a violation of federal law for her to be granted that.
Whatever you believe, here is the uncomfortable truth: our current DOJ is a criminal organization tasked with protecting a child trafficking, pedophile POTUS.
Their only other directive is exacting revenge on Trumpās foes.
I get that they werenāt perfect before but this is a staggering, massive change for that institution. Garland was too cowardly to even investigate Trump because he thought it would look partisan.
Now the FBI & DOJ donāt give AF that they are openly acting as a pedo-protecting Gestapo force. Most successful cult in human history.
āwork releaseā despite the fact she doesnāt work.
Itās actually worse than that. Her job title is child sex trafficker.
I laughed at this WAY more than I should haveā¦. Thank you fellow Redditorā¦.
Epstein wasn't the mastermind, it was Maxwell (along with Mossad support).
Epstein is dead along with justice for the victims, his handlers didnāt need him anymore. Epstein wasnāt his own person and was just a perverted asset that could be leveraged to manufacture evils that can be hung over the heads of heads of states, tech bros, bankers, and other elites. The truth is the world is governed by powerful pedophiles and the CIA and Mossad are more than happy to oblige in evil desires of men if it means they have blackmail.
I even agree that Epstein wasn't "the man". I think Maxwell probably outranked him and had the legacy intelligence ties. It still makes no sense that he'd be so passive about all of this.
You have no idea the capabilities of our "intelligence agencies". They can squash what they want as dis or mis information, but that kill switch also works on valid legal claims. Why else did they move to block/censor TikTok and dozens of news outlets? Because information and knowledge is power, and those of us that can see the connections are under attack.
They are hoping that everyone that has the attention of a Snapchat will remain as such. Smarter dissidents remain silent.
I have watched our "intelligence community" bumble their way around the globe for decades. They are evil, craven, and utterly controlled by mafia. There are a few talents among them, but it can't be easy to have a good talent pool when you want someone who is really smart but also willing to do absolutely anything you command of them.
Dude is probably walking among us right now.
All that's really needed is new identity documents and the best facial reconstruction surgeon from Korea. š·
Or maybe a room with a surgical chair and a bunch of faces all over the walls...
Face off wasn't just a movie. THIS is where that idea most likely came from
I'm sure Jeff E was really sad to have to give up his beautiful face
Not when its the president of the US and your cell in is in the US....
Donald Trump does what he is told. Bibi owns his soul and Epstein was clearly a j-mob asset.
I assume it'd be incredibly difficult to create a dead man's switch when youre in that group. Im sure youre monitored 24/7. The first glimpse youre going to speak someone's name, youre done
You donāt think the vast resources of the US intelligence community could not discover and render inert any deadman switch, under the direction of the president?
The US intelligence community is controlled by the same mafia that Epstein worked for.
Israel's network includes all the major IT businesses. Including Oracle owner as one of main donors to IDF.
I think jeff is still alive and his brother knows that. He will always side with jeff. Their bubba convo was released and he said it wasnt clinton lol. I dont think epstein would talk to kash patel at this point lol. Heād prob just talk to China and let China handle it lol
Ghislane had a horse named Bubba...
No, she did not.
Did we ever see the body?
The media was shown a body briefly from a distance. Things were not consistent with his known features(his ears were especially wrong)
Is he dead though???
Realistically, because he got such lenient treated when he was arrested in Florida, Epstien probably thought the last thing that was going to happen was that someone would try to kill him.
He has to still be alive imhho
You mentioned Epstein not having a dead manās switch. I like the theory that Covid was someoneās lab made dead man switch, or more likely a distraction to take momentum away from this case. More likely it was Bill Gates or our own intel agencies who funded or green lit the release of Covid as a distraction/dead man switch. Epstein getting killed or getting away with a body double was maybe another piece of the plan to snuff out his cooperation to save himself the hardest time. All of it , covid and Epstein death, was happening in the fall of 2019
This is what I thought at the time, and Iām surprised this is the first time Iāve seen anyone else mention the idea.
Same boat, man! I am very frustrated that this is not a common speculation/conclusion drawn from that episode
Yup, couldn't agree with you more.
Epstein pissed off his boss: Ehud Barak
Agree. Of course they bailed him out. They loved him and are probably hiding him. Simple equation
Right if everything think Epstein was killed than we've probably already been fooled.
Dude it's probably alive and well living away from the public eye.
Iām still convinced heās alive. So this whole thing is irrelevant
covid was his dead mans switch
Can you link where this is in the files? Interesting post if true, just a lot of people have been posting things claiming they are in the files lately with no source.
Edit: found varous sources discussing it by googling epstein's brother. EFTA00038986
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article313920022.html
2010
"have you ever socialized with Donald Trump In the presence of females under the age of 18"
"Though I'd like to answer this question but at least today I'm going to have to assert my 5th, 6th and 14th amendment rights today sir."
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jQhaKgdK2oY?feature=share
I feel like I'm eating crazy pills. How is it that half of people don't understand what is going on? How clear can this be before people start reacting? This isn't even a new clip, it's been out since forever.
Not gonna lie. Ever since I saw this years ago, if I ever get questioned, for anything, this will be my answer.
30~40% of Americans still think Trump is great. Itās extremely difficult to leave a cult.
I felt like it was an exaggeration when people started calling it a cult. But that is literally what it is.
SS: Trump is BFF's with Epstein. Trump names Bill Barr (whose dad hired Epstein as a high school teacher) as DOJ director. Epstein dies in Bill Barr's jail right before he is about to squeal.
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Have you seen the fucked up book that Bill Barr's father wrote?
Space Relations
Blimey this is sick.
Have an updoot cause Jesus Christ just the synopsis was a slog. Quite the novel.
True storyā¦
What the cinnamon toast fuck?
Barr's dad did not hire JE. Barr retired the year before JE was hired. that is all.
Interesting that many sources say that Barr did hire Epstein.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisettevoytko/2019/07/09/bill-barr-wont-recuse-himself-from-epstein-sex-trafficking-case/
yes it is interesting.
it's interesting that there was a dispute between Barr and the rest of the board the year before, which caused Barr to retire and this person Epstein to be hired without credentials.
you think Barr's last accomplishment was to get him hired, or to fight him from being hired?
Barr retired in Feb of '74, Epstein was hired to start in Sept of '74. Barr retired because he felt a lack of control over the school.
HEY GROK IS THIS REAL?
Grok replies:
No, there is no evidence that Donald Trump is a pedophile, nor is his brilliant friend Elon Musk.
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"presient" Trump eh
Original link : https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%208/EFTA00038986.pdf
Cover up by Israel, I mean Trump, I mean Israel.Ā
Charlie Kirk worked out what Trump was before someone got rid of him.
Epstein was M0. S sad
Trump was installed as president by Is.Ā Real
Why would is.Ā Ā Real allow Trump to be racked over the coals by the media if he was their controlled manchurian candidate?
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Strange place this is
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Lol he isnt dead
Trump is the biggest scandal to ever happen to the USA. Trump want to make History, as the sick narcissist that he is, well he will make History for sure, for the worse politician to ever walk in D.C.
anyone with a brain knew that since before his first term... But it seems a lot of Americans are brainless
What I don't understand is why the Biden administration never released these files?
Because left and right are the sides of the same snake
I don't believe it's up to any American leaders. I think the whole operation is a humiliation ritual against America.Ā
Because he made the stupid decision of appointing Merrick Garland as AG, wasn't strong enough to assert control of the DOJ himself, and wanted to be an uncontroversial "unity" president. Plus, people on both sides would be implicated of course.
Yep. fwiw this is what Kamala said when recently asked about it:
Exactly. If I was Kamala Harris in October 2024 this would be like finding a pot of gold
Youll get downvoted for this but its just a pure fact at this point. Kamala would have had the W.......so.....
To protect clinton?
Protect Clinton from what? Trumps DOJ has all of the Epstein files, yet theyāve not levied a single crime against Clinton.Ā
the trial was going on at the time wasn't it? Also Biden didn't run on Epstein stuff, Trump did. And the Biden admin thought the Trump threat was basically gone and done, until like 2023 or 2024.
Maxwells trial was over in 2021, judge Allison Nathan said the details were too impure to release to the general public. Make sense of that https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/judge-rules-some-ghislaine-maxwell-details-are-too-sensational-and-impure-to-be-revealed-to-the-public/
How would he know.
Too bad companies selling information to third parties don't redact the cellular telephone number, email account, and IP addresses. They can even find the names of my first pet and favorite TV series!
Why it it deemed something redacted in this case, while they can freely sell mine and compromise my security?
It's very clear that some of these companies have been aiding any foreign group with very little restraint and giving them access to customer information while having very little regard for the security of their accounts, yet being aware of their own internal account recovery practices. It's not like you can really do anything to prevent someone from taking a photo of your vehicle and posting such images to their accounts, yet you often see these questions pop up!
Not only is Trump a disgusting Pedophile, he's a cold blooded killer. An independent investigation needs to also be opened up on Ivana's 'fall' down the stairs.
I donāt think Epstein is dead. There is no footage of his cell, and the missing gap is suspicious. Look at the ears from the dead body and compare with Epstein. The ears donāt match. Epstein is probably on an island somewhere or holed up in Israel.
This is all BS. It doesn't matter who says what. If it is sworn testimony or just wild rumors. What matters is that the FBI found all the rooms in Manhattan wired for video, but they say they didn't seize any videos.
Whoever has those videos is who is calling the shots.Lists and the shit being released don't mean squat.
Can't spell for shit
I believe Epstein is still alive āŗļø
Iām starting to get real suspicious of this guy. How is it that he knows all of this stuff and he hasnāt been investigated to see what his level of involvement is?
But on a side note, someone in trumps admin had to have been dirty, whether it was him directly or someone else to pull off what they did.
But I donāt really believe heās dead though, I think they got him out instead.
Heās was also going to be 86 from Hop Sings!
Ok, just one question..
August 9 2019?
Letās k*ll the pedophiles.. unless itās ordered by Trump
How does Epsteinās brothers have this info suggesting Trump authorized it? Why wasnāt this released by Biden admin?
Weāve known this. Do people think itās just a coincidence that the pedo trump was president while he was killed in federal custody?
Trump will blame Biden
Oh ya epstien brother really trustable.. Just like how trump reportedly turned his limo around Jan 6th. More hearsay propaganda.
Funny cos when interviewed in person for 2 hours he said Trump wasn't involved
Why didn't dems release this when they had it? Obviously fake and inserted
Was not killed in 2019 though.
Trust me bro
Wow all after Trump ran for president, what a coincidence
The Dems are hilarious, they've spent their whole lives about how conspiracy are a stupid right thing, and now that the confirmation is out, they're only bringing Trump into the mix, becoming the sickest theorists in existence. Haha, the true defenders of criminal corruption are always you in history. but you'll all be fooled by your stupidity.
This reeks as bullshit. "...he was about to name names...." c'mon man. The spooks are just opening up a new angle on JE's non-suicide and the fact he's still alive. Are we to believe Mark would fill out an FBI web form about this? Seriously.
Now that the "Epstein files" are public, anyone can put something together like this and make it look like it's some part of it and deserving legitimacy. Dangerous times for lovers of truth.
Two birds with one stone? Trumps association is being inflated to scapegoat him so people dont look elsewhere
This shit is a filth pool of just anti Trump. Reddit is cancer
Honest question, what makes you still believe a single word he says? Can count a thousand times but today he literally said he never went on Epsteins plane.
There is literal proof he did. They have proof of over 20 times one yearā¦.i think he would remember that.
Thatās one I could name 1,000ā¦ why do you believe him any of the time? Just one lie makes your entity testimony subject to being ignored in court. And he does it to the public every chance he gets.
You think heās a good person to be in that role?not a good person, he obviously isnāt, but a good person for that position?
Your tag is donāt be a sheep, I suggest you follow yourself, look at bill Clinton, why donāt you democrats say anything about bill clinton in those files? Maybe itās bc you donāt have Clinton syndrome
they are trying to distract you with trump again