Or he wrote it before he killed himself and it didn't get in the mail until 3 days later. He killed himself on a Friday, prisons inspect mail before being sent.
Ha ha ha, maybe when you get to prison for those type of charges they hand you a print out titled “List Of Fellow Prisoners That Don’t Want to Kill You With Their Bare Hands AKA OTHER PEDOPHILES And Their Mailing Addresses”.
“Oh gee, erm, thank you. Hmm… Nassar! Always admired his HANDIwork, if you know what I mean. I’d like to ask him about those prepubescent gymnasts he got his paws on.”
I mean who else do you talk to about CSA when you're an abuser... not like he going to write a letter to someone about SA to some random dude who isn't involved at all.
I think to note about CSA a lot of people feel the need to talk about it so they can feel normal. It's like reddit, we surround ourselves with people that agree with our point, except these disgusting peoples point is CSA and not like what kind of bread is best.
Didn't Epstein say multiple times in the past that he wants to talk about what Trump has done, "just not at this time" or something? Or all the times Michael Wolff has tried to convince Epstein to expose Trump and Epstein refusing to out of fear of consequence? This really feels like Epstein finally saying what he wanted to say on his way out. Write the letter and end it all knowing the letter would come to light eventually. Especially with it being written to the other most notorious child predator in recent memory. It feels very purposeful
Exactly. If this letter was from the 90s or 2000s theb it would be more believable. The fact he wrote this while Trump was president seemed more like he was trying to frame Trump. From emails he seemed to hate Trump.
REVEALED: In Data Set 8 of the Epstein files release, which was briefly posted on the Justice Department's website today, there is a letter alleging to be sent from Jeffrey Epstein to convicted sex offender Larry Nassar.
The letter, which is postmarked just days after Epstein died, reads:
"Dear L. N.
As you know by now, I have taken the "short route" home. Good luck! We shared one thing . . . our love & caring for young ladies at the hope they'd reach their full potential.
Our president shares our love of young, nubile girls. When a young beauty walked by he loved to "grab snatch," whereas we ended up snatching grub in the mess halls of the system.
Life is unfair.
Yours
J. Epstein”
The letter was returned to sender.
Reporting indicates that Epstein sent a letter to Nassar from prison before his suicide. The contents of that letter were never revealed.
Additional documents show that the letter was submitted for handwriting analysis, though it is unclear if investigators reached a conclusion on whether or not this was definitively written by Epstein.
These images are from EFTA00036086 and EFTA00036085.
Always believed that he was pushed into offing himself while no one bothered to stop him. This means it was still a conspiracy with bad actors involved that wanted him gone.
Conspiracy theories are fun, but it was always the most realistic option that he killed himself in that cell. If you take his known libertine character and extreme lifestyle put against the prospect of rotting away in pedo prison, suicide is a somewhat "reasonable" response.
This letter supports that view. We've all had our "Liberty or Death" daydreams...
The question always rather was if this happened with encouragement and/or support from someone else.
How do you explain the cameras all going down at exactly the time he supposedly committed suicide? Just 100% coincidence and that’s that? I’m not saying you’re wrong, but the level of certainty some people have is crazy to me.
People cite things like “Occam’s Razor”, and act as if that’s some uber sophisticated explanation for everything that happens (or doesn’t happen).
It doesn’t hold water when the people in question are powerful psychopaths with friends in extremely high places and that participate in blackmail operations. These people are used to bending the rules to get what they want.. the threat of getting a smack on the wrist doesn’t mean anything to them.
It was pretty clear from the start that he killed himself because Trump wasn't going to bail him out, after Epstein blackmailed him during 2016. This letter and his suicide was his last fuck you that would force people to pay attention.
He tried to talk but people just ignored him, and if he tried to make a statement under oath it wouldn't happen because it would all be under seal and with a Trump friendly judge that would keep out the media and prevent him from talking about Trump.
I think people really wanted it to be a murder, because they knew Trump was involved but their internal bias tried to make it happen in anyway that wasn't clearly about Trump.
It's fucking hilarious that the top post on the conservative sub today was goofballs insisting that, in this context, "nubiles" means "marriageable women"
Now I’m not saying any of these fuckers did or didn’t partake in this shit. But I do find a lot of this evidence weird. Honestly would someone be so blatant and flat out say this in a letter that could easily be intercepted or lost?
The emails literally prove this. They talked with 0 opsec, and 0 care in the world. Even now, when we know numerous pedophiles in the government and rich are out free, why would they try to hide it? They know we aren't doing anything about it.
One of the final nails in the coffin for the whole Pizzagate thing for me is the number of hoops you have to jump through in terms of secret codes and symbols that are supposedly hidden in Hillary's/Podesta's emails
And here you have Epstein's emails looking like "hi. wanna have sex with a young nubile girl on my island? k. thx. see ya later."
I mean, they pretty much are. Even after all of this the only person serving any time is Ghislaine and she's in a minimum security prison feeding puppies or something like taht
Because they are. 2008 - 2009 proved this. Obama ran on holding Wall St accountable and then didn't do shit. Trump was friends with Epstien and has lied about when he stopped talking to him multiple times and MAGA just puts their heads in the sand. Netenyahu murdered thousands of innocent babies and children and nothing will happen to him. We gave powerful nazis plea deals to work for us after Nuremberg.
Capitalism only cares about profit, that the only moral we have in our government. As long as it increases the bottom line and the shareholders make more money anything is in the table.
Trump did relatively recently say he knew Epstein was trafficking kids from Mar a Lago back in 2000, two years before he said "Jeff is a terrific guy who likes em on the younger side" and seven years before they revoked epstein's membership
This was allegedly written while he was in prison.
After you have become used to living on your own island, being under guard 24/7 in a federal institution is not what anyone would consider "untouchable".
Epstein's "suicide" happened in Federal custody under Barr's protection literally the same night the first Lolita Express flight logs with Trump's name were unsealed by the courts.
Flight logs with Trump's name first unsealed on August 9, 2019.
Here are the actual Lolita Express flight logs from the first unsealing .
This log just had one flight with his name, but he had lied about ever even being on the plane before this flight log was unsealed.
The flight logs are Exhibit BB which begins on page 463 of the pdf. Page 13 of the flight logs list 'Donald Trump' as a passenger on flight number 934 alongside longtime Epstein pedophile ring regulars, Glen and Eva Dubin. That will be page 470 in the pdf.
Remember, Estein's "suicide" happened literally the night this flight log was unsealed.
These are the newest flight logs that were unsealed and released after Maxwell's trial.
Our previous President appears in these new flight logs 6 times.
His name first comes up twice on page 18, flights 310 and 311.
The first of those two flights is just Epstein, Donald, and "Erin Nance."
The second flight is Epstein, Maxwell, Donald, and some redacted name(s) at the end of the line.
This redacted flight log entry of Trump's ride is by far the most suspicious. In these flight logs, only the names of certain victims and offenders were redacted.
The next two appearances are on page 24, flights 409 and 413.
These are somehow just as shady and our previous President is the only name on the first of these two flight that isn't just cryptic initials.
The last two, and least suspicious, appearances are on page 27, flights 516 and 517. These two flights with his family are the only two appearances included in the package released by Bondi. 🤔
Why not? Obviously the rules don’t apply to the ruling class, the only consequences are if your friend turns against you and has you whacked in prison and orders it called a suicide.
Here’s the proof from the DOJ website you’re welcome and can stop spamming this thread now with misinformation.
However, if an inmate consents to sending or receiving mail at the institution, the inmate’s mail, both incoming and outgoing is subject to being opened, examined, and censored, and until the mail is handed over to the U.S. Postal Service, it is the property of the institution.
When you're above the law you can do whatever you want, these dudes were addicted to scrapbooking their pedophilia and all of them need to be thrown under the jail Trump Clinton ALL OF THEM
Why would they rape kids? They don't care about the rules nor do they think they'll ever suffer from their actions regardless of how evil and or stupid they are
If there's anything I've learned over the years, it's that people like this rarely talk in code. They don't hide their behavior from each other. They know what they're doing is wrong, they just inherently believe they are above the law, are special, and believe it is their right to operate outside the bounds of acceptable behavior.
Honestly would someone be so blatant and flat out say this in a letter that could easily be intercepted or lost?
Yes! They don't believe they will ever be held accountable.
My favorite this smells off is. The leaks have basically confirmed everyone we knew. Clinton Andrew. Ya know to build credibility. Then trump. No one else new? Are we to believe this. I don't.
Completely agree with you. Think you’re onto something. It’s ammo of some sort brewing. And bots throwing AI generated pics in the mix is another thing to add.
Because they don't give a fuck, they think they'll never save consequences. Also, none of the wording in this letter is inherently incriminating. It's subtle enough
Yeah, this one doesn’t make sense. If you look at the top the stamp date on what looks to be the photo of the envelope is dated 13 Aug 2019 but Epstein supposedly died on 10 Aug 2019. He could’ve mailed it before he died and they didn’t process it until the 13th, but that’d mean it was probably one of the last letters he sent. And why would THAT be one of the last things he said while in prison contemplating suicide? It doesn’t make sense. Unless he wasn’t contemplating suicide. (I’m not convinced Epstein killed himself. It was WAY too suspicious.)
Second, it was returned to sender because Nassar wasn’t at that address in Tucson anymore. But a quick google search shows Nassar was moved from Tucson, AZ to Sumterville, FL in Aug. 2018 and Epstein was arrested in Jul. 2019. THAT’S the letter Epstein wrote to him after a YEAR of not speaking to Nassar? I’m assuming he hadn’t written to him in a year, otherwise he would’ve known Nassar wasn’t at the prison in Tucson anymore, right?
This letter just seems…strange. It doesn’t make sense.
I mean at this point, he’s gotta feel pretty f’ed over by all of his kid-f’er buddies and even his non-kid-f’er buddies for disavowing him and waiving at him as he was hauled off to prison. I could see how he might’ve started trying to get any and all of them tangled up in his mess. “Oh I’ll just casually mention, in a letter to a fellow imprisoned pedophile, that my old pal Don loved sexually assaulting minors. That bastard…”
Furthermore, this was after he was in custody. His return address is from “manhattan correctional” and they read every piece of mail incoming or outgoing.
I like how this sub has turned in to he may or may not have done this but when it was Hillary under scrutiny she was definitely raping kids in a pizza parlour basement
Well, in his case, its a “Well, what do I have to lose?” he’s already caught, definitely was gonna be in jail for a long time (if not for his ‘incident’).
This was basically him saying “Come out bro, they caught US.”
He of course means "Women over the age of consent in whatever country or state one resides in and with 100% consent between adults of an equal maturity level with no coercion on either part. "
Was DJT not the president when this man was killed? I just know if Obama or Biden were in office the conspiracy theories would be wild about them but because it was Trump that must mean the Clinton’s did it!
The only thing that makes sense is that MAGA really never cared about freedom, or patriotism or the Constitution or the rule of law or child rape, they just hate "the other side". MAGAs support Trump raping kids and getting away with it.
It seems as if everyone is trying to find a reason to clear Trump. This doesn’t prove he did anything. However, if you’re going to accept the “evidence” for Clinton, this has to be taken as seriously. The reality is, all of this needs to be looked into and verified. Releasing all of this now seems like a shit show. It is interesting that Biden had access to release all of this and did not. Trump must be convinced whatever is released isn’t enough to convict or sway his voters
Posted this elsewhere in the comments, but curious about your thoughts:
Assuming this letter was found returned to sender at Epstein’s prison, there are two possibilities.
This was written by Epstein.
The most logical reason I can think that he would write this to Nassar, who we’ve seen no previous evidence that Epstein had ties to, would be to give a last minute double middle finger to Trump.
Epstein would’ve known this would be intercepted. This lumps Trump in with himself and the second most notorious sexual abuser in modern America. Maybe he was lying, maybe he was telling the truth, but it’s cryptic and not overly incriminating or revealing. Importantly, though, it implies that Epstein was about to commit suicide.
If taken as written by Epstein, the suicide narrative looks legit. If it were a double middle finger to Trump, though, I can think of much more effective ways to go about that, especially if he were about to off himself and, in turn, alleviate himself of a liability for false claims.
This was not written by Epstein.
In this case, what would the motive be? If to make Trump look bad, then this doesn’t go far enough as to be incriminating to Trump.
What it does do is support the suicide narrative, while being just damaging enough to Trump so as to assuage theories that it’s a cover up attempt by the Trump admin. The forger’s thought process could be - let’s make it look really bad for Trump, but have it be non-incriminating and give Trump plausible deniability as per possibility 1 above. Then we can slide in the pseudo forged suicide statement. That draws more attention to the claims against Trump than the part that promotes the suicide narrative.
But no need to release it unless the public keeps asking questions about the suicide narrative. Use it as a sort of backstop.
No matter what administration released them, it would be the same way. There is always a timeline that needs to be met. Doesn’t matter who is “in power” at the time, it happens because something else needs to happen behind closed doors.
Funny how Trump has rape allegations, owned a beauty pageant for girls, is a known billionaire playboy, said he can grab em by the pussy, and the list goes on, yet people think he's clean.
And same for Clinton. He had rape allegations against him from his time as governor.
Trump could have a video of him with an 11 year old girl and he’d still be celebrated. He could shoot someone in the head in Tome Square. There’s nothing too low for him that his cult will break their obsession
The only obvious thing is that Trump is equally bad at art and poetry.
Frankly though, this card, and some of the tone Epstein takes when talking about Trump, makes me wonder if their shared enigma was a few inches of flesh, and Epsteins at that.
Whether you love Trump or hate him, the problem with this letter is it was written by Epstein, in prison, where he knew it would be intercepted and read, after having been prosecuted and convicted by the feds while Trump was president.
I wouldn't be taking any claims at face value from the guy. He had a lot of motivation to lie and strike out at people he didn't like and plenty of time to do it.
The totally not biased DOJ said that this is fake and that Lord and Savior Trump, the guy who was found to have ridden on the Lolita Express "more than we first realized", is not suspected of any wrongdoing
The inconsistency of files being released could be an intentional move to depose Trump. He’s becoming more of a problem day after day. Internal circles putting pressure on him to step down due to “health” reasons or “in the interests of America”.
Its amazing how some people have more hate for the people doing the jobs THEY DONT WANT, then they do for elites robbing them blind and ordering cheese pizza on the regular and laughing in their faces. Strange world.. Anyone supporting this guy is a straight up pedo lover and maybe one themselves.
The confusing part is that I hear equally that they have taken trump out of everything on the files but have left in a large number of these things like 'this', whatever this is, just hanging out there....I miss the days of old internetting when you could believe with your whole heart everything you saw..
you didnt believe daddy gubberment with covid or anything else in the last few years but you believe these "files" and this whole fakestein thing is real? its all a giant distraction long con game that has been scripted and designed years in the making. All actors on a stage. its funny how people all of a sudden trust the goverment when it gives them things they want a proves theories they want proved this goes for both the left and right side of the 2 headed snake.
Trump banned Epstein in 2007. By August 2019, he had been arrested for trafficking. Anything he wrote, he knew would become evidence so most likely this was just an attempt to embarrass Trump. Good job in falling for it OP.
Why didn't the Democrats use this against Trump when Biden was President? It would have been much easier to secure the nomination in 2020 rather than having to steal it?
This has been my question regarding everything Epstein related involving Trump. Like many of others have said, there are plenty of reasons to have problems with Trump, but I just think a connection to Epstein or whatever they find in these files isn't going to be what so many people want it to be, considering how badly they wanted any little reason at all to either jail him or at the very least disqualify him from running a second time, that if they had anything incriminating on him in those files they absolutely would have gleefully released any and all of it when Biden was still president and the Democrats still had power in the government.
Bear with me here. Assuming this letter was found returned to sender at Epstein’s prison, there are two possibilities.
This was written by Epstein.
The most logical reason I can think that he would write this to Nassar, who we’ve seen no previous evidence that Epstein had ties to, would be to give a last minute double middle finger to Trump.
Epstein would’ve known this would be intercepted. This lumps Trump in with himself and the second most notorious sexual abuser in modern America. Maybe he was lying, maybe he was telling the truth, but it’s cryptic and not overly incriminating or revealing. Importantly, though, it implies that Epstein was about to commit suicide.
If taken as written by Epstein, the suicide narrative looks legit. If it were a double middle finger to Trump, though, I can think of much more effective ways to go about that, especially if he were about to off himself and, in turn, alleviate himself of a liability for false claims.
This was not written by Epstein.
In this case, what would the motive be? If to make Trump look bad, then this doesn’t go far enough as to be incriminating to Trump.
What it does do is support the suicide narrative, while being just damaging enough to Trump so as to assuage theories that it’s a cover up attempt by the Trump admin. The forger’s thought process could be - let’s make it look really bad for Trump, but have it be non-incriminating and give Trump plausible deniability as per possibility 1 above. Then we can slide in the pseudo forged suicide statement. That draws more attention to the claims against Trump than the part that promotes the suicide narrative.
But no need to release it unless the public keeps asking questions about the suicide narrative. Use it as a sort of backstop.
Fuck epstein and every single name on that list. Every single one of them needs to be made public and brought to justice. Real justice, not the kind rich folks normally get. But real justice.
Every single ounce of their wealth seized, reputations ruined, history books rewritten, and they never breathe a single breath of free air ever again. They need to be tossed into a hole and we throw away the hole.
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Omg to add insult to injury this letter is written to Larry Nassar … 🥴🤮
Like if Ted Bundy and Ed Gein were penpals.
Holy actual F this might be one of the most disgusting connections.
The letter was also postmarked 3 days after the “suicide”… maybe this letter is what prompted the hit…
Or he wrote it before he killed himself and it didn't get in the mail until 3 days later. He killed himself on a Friday, prisons inspect mail before being sent.
It was allegedly sent to the wrong prison originally. Nassar was being held at a different facility.
why are they even allowed to exchange mail or keep pictures of their victims in their cells
Ha ha ha, maybe when you get to prison for those type of charges they hand you a print out titled “List Of Fellow Prisoners That Don’t Want to Kill You With Their Bare Hands AKA OTHER PEDOPHILES And Their Mailing Addresses”.
“Oh gee, erm, thank you. Hmm… Nassar! Always admired his HANDIwork, if you know what I mean. I’d like to ask him about those prepubescent gymnasts he got his paws on.”
Disgusting. Nothing surprises me anymore.
I mean who else do you talk to about CSA when you're an abuser... not like he going to write a letter to someone about SA to some random dude who isn't involved at all.
I think to note about CSA a lot of people feel the need to talk about it so they can feel normal. It's like reddit, we surround ourselves with people that agree with our point, except these disgusting peoples point is CSA and not like what kind of bread is best.
Debunked
Debunked by who
When you’re in prison all of your correspondence is read. He knew this. He wrote that to be seen. He knew what he was doing.
Yep, it was his middle-finger to Trump, likely.
And yet we're just now seeing it five years later.
And likely its a mistake that it didn't get entirely redacted
It was reported on three years ago.
The contents were not, only that it existed.
Didn't Epstein say multiple times in the past that he wants to talk about what Trump has done, "just not at this time" or something? Or all the times Michael Wolff has tried to convince Epstein to expose Trump and Epstein refusing to out of fear of consequence? This really feels like Epstein finally saying what he wanted to say on his way out. Write the letter and end it all knowing the letter would come to light eventually. Especially with it being written to the other most notorious child predator in recent memory. It feels very purposeful
Very purposeful. Agreed.
Exactly. If this letter was from the 90s or 2000s theb it would be more believable. The fact he wrote this while Trump was president seemed more like he was trying to frame Trump. From emails he seemed to hate Trump.
Direct links to the letter:
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%208/EFTA00035768.pdf
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%208/EFTA00035769.pdf
SS: https://x.com/MeidasTouch/status/2003334181217271872
Does this mean Epstein wasn't murdered/or survived, or just bit early for debunking those ideas formally?
Always believed that he was pushed into offing himself while no one bothered to stop him. This means it was still a conspiracy with bad actors involved that wanted him gone.
Why else give him enough rope to hang himself?
Conspiracy theories are fun, but it was always the most realistic option that he killed himself in that cell. If you take his known libertine character and extreme lifestyle put against the prospect of rotting away in pedo prison, suicide is a somewhat "reasonable" response.
This letter supports that view. We've all had our "Liberty or Death" daydreams...
The question always rather was if this happened with encouragement and/or support from someone else.
How do you explain the cameras all going down at exactly the time he supposedly committed suicide? Just 100% coincidence and that’s that? I’m not saying you’re wrong, but the level of certainty some people have is crazy to me.
People cite things like “Occam’s Razor”, and act as if that’s some uber sophisticated explanation for everything that happens (or doesn’t happen).
It doesn’t hold water when the people in question are powerful psychopaths with friends in extremely high places and that participate in blackmail operations. These people are used to bending the rules to get what they want.. the threat of getting a smack on the wrist doesn’t mean anything to them.
The cameras would be the "encouragement/support from someone else" part
At the least, CYA by the prison guards who had to "support" it
It was pretty clear from the start that he killed himself because Trump wasn't going to bail him out, after Epstein blackmailed him during 2016. This letter and his suicide was his last fuck you that would force people to pay attention.
He tried to talk but people just ignored him, and if he tried to make a statement under oath it wouldn't happen because it would all be under seal and with a Trump friendly judge that would keep out the media and prevent him from talking about Trump.
I think people really wanted it to be a murder, because they knew Trump was involved but their internal bias tried to make it happen in anyway that wasn't clearly about Trump.
'Nubile' is one of those words that is almost exclusively used by creeps nowadays. Major red flag if you ever see it used in earnest.
You know the more I hear about this Epstein guy the less I care for him…seems like kind of a creep this guy
Jeff Epstein? The financier?
The one with the island?
Read this as Norm Macdonald
I didn't even know he was sick!
It's fucking hilarious that the top post on the conservative sub today was goofballs insisting that, in this context, "nubiles" means "marriageable women"
But what if these nubile girls are really mature for their age? It’s just a number after all.
Now I’m not saying any of these fuckers did or didn’t partake in this shit. But I do find a lot of this evidence weird. Honestly would someone be so blatant and flat out say this in a letter that could easily be intercepted or lost?
Doesn't the "short route" part mean suicide? In which case, he probably didn't care.
Rich people who think they’re untouchable
The emails literally prove this. They talked with 0 opsec, and 0 care in the world. Even now, when we know numerous pedophiles in the government and rich are out free, why would they try to hide it? They know we aren't doing anything about it.
One of the final nails in the coffin for the whole Pizzagate thing for me is the number of hoops you have to jump through in terms of secret codes and symbols that are supposedly hidden in Hillary's/Podesta's emails
And here you have Epstein's emails looking like "hi. wanna have sex with a young nubile girl on my island? k. thx. see ya later."
I mean, they pretty much are. Even after all of this the only person serving any time is Ghislaine and she's in a minimum security prison feeding puppies or something like taht
*Psyopping on reddit.
Maxwellhill I know you're reading this
and as you see, they are untouchable
Because they are. 2008 - 2009 proved this. Obama ran on holding Wall St accountable and then didn't do shit. Trump was friends with Epstien and has lied about when he stopped talking to him multiple times and MAGA just puts their heads in the sand. Netenyahu murdered thousands of innocent babies and children and nothing will happen to him. We gave powerful nazis plea deals to work for us after Nuremberg.
Capitalism only cares about profit, that the only moral we have in our government. As long as it increases the bottom line and the shareholders make more money anything is in the table.
Trump did relatively recently say he knew Epstein was trafficking kids from Mar a Lago back in 2000, two years before he said "Jeff is a terrific guy who likes em on the younger side" and seven years before they revoked epstein's membership
This was allegedly written while he was in prison.
After you have become used to living on your own island, being under guard 24/7 in a federal institution is not what anyone would consider "untouchable".
*know
Epstein's "suicide" happened in Federal custody under Barr's protection literally the same night the first Lolita Express flight logs with Trump's name were unsealed by the courts.
Flight logs with Trump's name first unsealed on August 9, 2019.
Epstein's "suicide" announced early morning on August 10, 2019.
Here are the actual Lolita Express flight logs from the first unsealing .
This log just had one flight with his name, but he had lied about ever even being on the plane before this flight log was unsealed.
The flight logs are Exhibit BB which begins on page 463 of the pdf. Page 13 of the flight logs list 'Donald Trump' as a passenger on flight number 934 alongside longtime Epstein pedophile ring regulars, Glen and Eva Dubin. That will be page 470 in the pdf.
Remember, Estein's "suicide" happened literally the night this flight log was unsealed.
These are the newest flight logs that were unsealed and released after Maxwell's trial.
Our previous President appears in these new flight logs 6 times.
His name first comes up twice on page 18, flights 310 and 311.
The first of those two flights is just Epstein, Donald, and "Erin Nance."
The second flight is Epstein, Maxwell, Donald, and some redacted name(s) at the end of the line.
This redacted flight log entry of Trump's ride is by far the most suspicious. In these flight logs, only the names of certain victims and offenders were redacted.
The next two appearances are on page 24, flights 409 and 413.
These are somehow just as shady and our previous President is the only name on the first of these two flight that isn't just cryptic initials.
The last two, and least suspicious, appearances are on page 27, flights 516 and 517. These two flights with his family are the only two appearances included in the package released by Bondi. 🤔
Also epstein barr is the name of the herpes virus coincidence.
You're doing God's work brother ✊
That seems to be the goal, he was already going down and wanted to bring Trump with him.
Which is probably why he is dead.
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is that what he meant by ""short route" home"?
https://i.imgur.com/8A8hHov.png
yup
Why not? Obviously the rules don’t apply to the ruling class, the only consequences are if your friend turns against you and has you whacked in prison and orders it called a suicide.
A letter he wrote from jail knowing all his mail would be read no matter what
That's not how it works. Outgoing correspondence is not screened.
Yup you’re wrong.
Here’s the proof from the DOJ website you’re welcome and can stop spamming this thread now with misinformation.
Tell me more again how “it works” though.
When you're above the law you can do whatever you want, these dudes were addicted to scrapbooking their pedophilia and all of them need to be thrown under the jail Trump Clinton ALL OF THEM
Why would they rape kids? They don't care about the rules nor do they think they'll ever suffer from their actions regardless of how evil and or stupid they are
If there's anything I've learned over the years, it's that people like this rarely talk in code. They don't hide their behavior from each other. They know what they're doing is wrong, they just inherently believe they are above the law, are special, and believe it is their right to operate outside the bounds of acceptable behavior.
Yes! They don't believe they will ever be held accountable.
You mean like storing classified government documents on the bathroom floor of your golf clubhouse?
My favorite this smells off is. The leaks have basically confirmed everyone we knew. Clinton Andrew. Ya know to build credibility. Then trump. No one else new? Are we to believe this. I don't.
Completely agree with you. Think you’re onto something. It’s ammo of some sort brewing. And bots throwing AI generated pics in the mix is another thing to add.
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Because they don't give a fuck, they think they'll never save consequences. Also, none of the wording in this letter is inherently incriminating. It's subtle enough
This is the fakest “letter” I’ve ever seen
Agreed.
Exactly. Shits obviously fake.
Final "fuck you" to Trump.
Yeah, this one doesn’t make sense. If you look at the top the stamp date on what looks to be the photo of the envelope is dated 13 Aug 2019 but Epstein supposedly died on 10 Aug 2019. He could’ve mailed it before he died and they didn’t process it until the 13th, but that’d mean it was probably one of the last letters he sent. And why would THAT be one of the last things he said while in prison contemplating suicide? It doesn’t make sense. Unless he wasn’t contemplating suicide. (I’m not convinced Epstein killed himself. It was WAY too suspicious.)
Second, it was returned to sender because Nassar wasn’t at that address in Tucson anymore. But a quick google search shows Nassar was moved from Tucson, AZ to Sumterville, FL in Aug. 2018 and Epstein was arrested in Jul. 2019. THAT’S the letter Epstein wrote to him after a YEAR of not speaking to Nassar? I’m assuming he hadn’t written to him in a year, otherwise he would’ve known Nassar wasn’t at the prison in Tucson anymore, right?
This letter just seems…strange. It doesn’t make sense.
I guess not of they planned to suicide
He was already in prison.
I mean at this point, he’s gotta feel pretty f’ed over by all of his kid-f’er buddies and even his non-kid-f’er buddies for disavowing him and waiving at him as he was hauled off to prison. I could see how he might’ve started trying to get any and all of them tangled up in his mess. “Oh I’ll just casually mention, in a letter to a fellow imprisoned pedophile, that my old pal Don loved sexually assaulting minors. That bastard…”
Seems like he was about to kill himself or thought trump was going to have him killed, so he wanted to put him on blast
Furthermore, this was after he was in custody. His return address is from “manhattan correctional” and they read every piece of mail incoming or outgoing.
A suicide note you mean? Why wouldn't you?
Whats weird is you trying to deny whats in front of your own eyes.
I like how this sub has turned in to he may or may not have done this but when it was Hillary under scrutiny she was definitely raping kids in a pizza parlour basement
Well, in his case, its a “Well, what do I have to lose?” he’s already caught, definitely was gonna be in jail for a long time (if not for his ‘incident’).
This was basically him saying “Come out bro, they caught US.”
And only coming out now. It’s all bullshit
Its a fucking postcard?
He of course means "Women over the age of consent in whatever country or state one resides in and with 100% consent between adults of an equal maturity level with no coercion on either part. "
- it's code.
Obviously, you’d have to be a libtard to read it any differently
This is nothing but a democratic hoagie sandwich
Larry Nassir was the gymnastic coach pedo. Epstein is going to be sending him open faced post cards?
Look just ask the victims who diddled them. You will have your answers.
It was inside an envelope. You can literally see the envelope at the top of the image OP posted.
that's not an envelope, that's the other side of the postcard
They were asked. Wonder why everything is sloppily redacted that answers that question.
These are y'all's Kings that are gonna drain the Swamp 🤣🤣🤣
Grab ‘em by the pussy
I’ve always wondered why maga didn’t make this into tshirts. It would definitely sell
if you look enough, they probably have.
Was DJT not the president when this man was killed? I just know if Obama or Biden were in office the conspiracy theories would be wild about them but because it was Trump that must mean the Clinton’s did it!
The only thing that makes sense is that MAGA really never cared about freedom, or patriotism or the Constitution or the rule of law or child rape, they just hate "the other side". MAGAs support Trump raping kids and getting away with it.
Of course they do. And they are dumb as rocks so very easy to manipulate to believe anything.
It seems as if everyone is trying to find a reason to clear Trump. This doesn’t prove he did anything. However, if you’re going to accept the “evidence” for Clinton, this has to be taken as seriously. The reality is, all of this needs to be looked into and verified. Releasing all of this now seems like a shit show. It is interesting that Biden had access to release all of this and did not. Trump must be convinced whatever is released isn’t enough to convict or sway his voters
The records were under seal because of Maxwell's pending case + the appeals afterwards.
Y’all aren’t asking the real questions.
Posted this elsewhere in the comments, but curious about your thoughts:
Assuming this letter was found returned to sender at Epstein’s prison, there are two possibilities.
The most logical reason I can think that he would write this to Nassar, who we’ve seen no previous evidence that Epstein had ties to, would be to give a last minute double middle finger to Trump.
Epstein would’ve known this would be intercepted. This lumps Trump in with himself and the second most notorious sexual abuser in modern America. Maybe he was lying, maybe he was telling the truth, but it’s cryptic and not overly incriminating or revealing. Importantly, though, it implies that Epstein was about to commit suicide.
If taken as written by Epstein, the suicide narrative looks legit. If it were a double middle finger to Trump, though, I can think of much more effective ways to go about that, especially if he were about to off himself and, in turn, alleviate himself of a liability for false claims.
In this case, what would the motive be? If to make Trump look bad, then this doesn’t go far enough as to be incriminating to Trump.
What it does do is support the suicide narrative, while being just damaging enough to Trump so as to assuage theories that it’s a cover up attempt by the Trump admin. The forger’s thought process could be - let’s make it look really bad for Trump, but have it be non-incriminating and give Trump plausible deniability as per possibility 1 above. Then we can slide in the pseudo forged suicide statement. That draws more attention to the claims against Trump than the part that promotes the suicide narrative.
But no need to release it unless the public keeps asking questions about the suicide narrative. Use it as a sort of backstop.
Any holes in this thought process?
They released this because the administration is incompetent and their redacting efforts missed a hand written note. Not too complicated.
No matter what administration released them, it would be the same way. There is always a timeline that needs to be met. Doesn’t matter who is “in power” at the time, it happens because something else needs to happen behind closed doors.
This reminds me of the Delta Project somehow. Fuck this world man, they are all part of the same cult. Which also involves serial killers
they're all satanists and ped0's
Don't go insulting Satanists like that!
Bro you need to go on the road
Dude is still alive somewhere (probably Israel) just laughing his ass off and raping more kids..
Yep
Funny how Trump has rape allegations, owned a beauty pageant for girls, is a known billionaire playboy, said he can grab em by the pussy, and the list goes on, yet people think he's clean.
And same for Clinton. He had rape allegations against him from his time as governor.
Drain the swamp.
Owned multiple beauty pagaents and modeling agency... They know he's guilty, they just really never cared about children.
After the Billy Bush Access Hollywood bus tape, it's truly a shame that Americans subjected every girl and young woman to grow up in this environment.
This is probably the letter that got him killed to be honest
Really puts "grab 'em by the pussy" into context.
It should, it was written after the audio came out.
MAGA was the greatest psyop and many people fell for it lol 😂
I'm curious: you don't 'burn' your prime asset.
There is no reason for Mostsad/CIA/whichever to further incriminate Trump.
This is a personal attack: I'm going to die - I'm taking you down with me, Trump.
We'll see what turns up:)
Trump could have a video of him with an 11 year old girl and he’d still be celebrated. He could shoot someone in the head in Tome Square. There’s nothing too low for him that his cult will break their obsession
You’re 100% right. The cult would still defend and make excuses for him lol.
BUT BILL!
That is far too on the nose to be real
It's practically a suicide note. I don't believe it at all.
This would make sense why covid happened when it did. I thought for sure he was subdivided after words like a year or two
I could write a letter to the ghost of Michael Jackson accusing Mother Teresa of hand cranking goats. Does that make her guilty?
The "gamines" thing is looking more likely...
It's very obvious that this is about little girls
The only obvious thing is that Trump is equally bad at art and poetry.
Frankly though, this card, and some of the tone Epstein takes when talking about Trump, makes me wonder if their shared enigma was a few inches of flesh, and Epsteins at that.
Whether you love Trump or hate him, the problem with this letter is it was written by Epstein, in prison, where he knew it would be intercepted and read, after having been prosecuted and convicted by the feds while Trump was president.
I wouldn't be taking any claims at face value from the guy. He had a lot of motivation to lie and strike out at people he didn't like and plenty of time to do it.
This shit is getting fucking hilarious
Taking anything that man says as reliable is not a Hill in willing to die on.
If you casually throw the word “nubile” around in conversation, you should automatically be on the list.
Best comment so far. 100%
Seriously, how are trump supporters so delusional? The US deserves significant retribution as a nation, no way around it. We are what we tolerate
Twitter thread has a pretty convincing conspiracy that this note was written by William Barr
The totally not biased DOJ said that this is fake and that Lord and Savior Trump, the guy who was found to have ridden on the Lolita Express "more than we first realized", is not suspected of any wrongdoing
Guys,
There is plenty of actual evidence agaisnt trump . ....its just that its not tied to the epstien files (specifically).
Its tied to John Casablancas, Gerald Marie and David Copperfield and Elite Modelling agency (etc.)
The inconsistency of files being released could be an intentional move to depose Trump. He’s becoming more of a problem day after day. Internal circles putting pressure on him to step down due to “health” reasons or “in the interests of America”.
The stamp has written 'USA FOREVER RODGER DODGER' , dated 2018, so the President in question here is Trump
No one is shocked to hear this
Why is the date on top is of 13th august 2019, 3 days after he died??
Takes time for mail to filter through the prison mail system and get to the post office where it is post marked
Okay thats a good explanation
Original reporter who took Epstein down says she thinks it’s not actually Epstein who wrote this
If Epstein didn’t write this then it’s a fake suicide note, which supports the claim he was murdered.
Its amazing how some people have more hate for the people doing the jobs THEY DONT WANT, then they do for elites robbing them blind and ordering cheese pizza on the regular and laughing in their faces. Strange world.. Anyone supporting this guy is a straight up pedo lover and maybe one themselves.
The confusing part is that I hear equally that they have taken trump out of everything on the files but have left in a large number of these things like 'this', whatever this is, just hanging out there....I miss the days of old internetting when you could believe with your whole heart everything you saw..
You absolutely could not.
This shit is too on the nose… no way DOJ releases if true.
I’m betting it’s fake and they’ll use this to discredit any real files with Trump in it.
Would a guy this DEEP into blackmail and espionage lie to you?
you didnt believe daddy gubberment with covid or anything else in the last few years but you believe these "files" and this whole fakestein thing is real? its all a giant distraction long con game that has been scripted and designed years in the making. All actors on a stage. its funny how people all of a sudden trust the goverment when it gives them things they want a proves theories they want proved this goes for both the left and right side of the 2 headed snake.
You people fall for anything as long as it soothes your TDS.
Trump banned Epstein in 2007. By August 2019, he had been arrested for trafficking. Anything he wrote, he knew would become evidence so most likely this was just an attempt to embarrass Trump. Good job in falling for it OP.
That’s what would be in my last not to the world, “ahh our president and I enjoy the same things, so long cruel world”
It's really unfair to post this before the bots and shills are set up with their talking points. You need to wait until at least 11am Moscow time
Why didn't the Democrats use this against Trump when Biden was President? It would have been much easier to secure the nomination in 2020 rather than having to steal it?
This has been my question regarding everything Epstein related involving Trump. Like many of others have said, there are plenty of reasons to have problems with Trump, but I just think a connection to Epstein or whatever they find in these files isn't going to be what so many people want it to be, considering how badly they wanted any little reason at all to either jail him or at the very least disqualify him from running a second time, that if they had anything incriminating on him in those files they absolutely would have gleefully released any and all of it when Biden was still president and the Democrats still had power in the government.
Honeypot and 00 comment zero mention who
Bear with me here. Assuming this letter was found returned to sender at Epstein’s prison, there are two possibilities.
The most logical reason I can think that he would write this to Nassar, who we’ve seen no previous evidence that Epstein had ties to, would be to give a last minute double middle finger to Trump.
Epstein would’ve known this would be intercepted. This lumps Trump in with himself and the second most notorious sexual abuser in modern America. Maybe he was lying, maybe he was telling the truth, but it’s cryptic and not overly incriminating or revealing. Importantly, though, it implies that Epstein was about to commit suicide.
If taken as written by Epstein, the suicide narrative looks legit. If it were a double middle finger to Trump, though, I can think of much more effective ways to go about that, especially if he were about to off himself and, in turn, alleviate himself of a liability for false claims.
In this case, what would the motive be? If to make Trump look bad, then this doesn’t go far enough as to be incriminating to Trump.
What it does do is support the suicide narrative, while being just damaging enough to Trump so as to assuage theories that it’s a cover up attempt by the Trump admin. The forger’s thought process could be - let’s make it look really bad for Trump, but have it be non-incriminating and give Trump plausible deniability as per possibility 1 above. Then we can slide in the pseudo forged suicide statement. That draws more attention to the claims against Trump than the part that promotes the suicide narrative.
But no need to release it unless the public keeps asking questions about the suicide narrative. Use it as a sort of backstop.
Any holes in this thought process?
Now the FBI is saying it’s fake for what that’s worth!
more stuff to distract from the abuse of infants and pre pubescent children
This forum probably: "Who is this Sender and why is he getting everyone's mail?!"
"life is unfair"
Fuck epstein and every single name on that list. Every single one of them needs to be made public and brought to justice. Real justice, not the kind rich folks normally get. But real justice.
Every single ounce of their wealth seized, reputations ruined, history books rewritten, and they never breathe a single breath of free air ever again. They need to be tossed into a hole and we throw away the hole.
Real or not? MSM is crying fake.
Where are all the other handwritten notes by him? Just compare the handwriting... (I would like to if anyone has links)
It may as well have been a bill of sale for a bridge.
I think it is quite juicy the bondi cult is trying to say this is fake.
I have a hard time believing they would have been saving trash.
Burn it all down and restart!
Wasn't this confirmed fake already
Debunked.
If trump was in the files the dems would have released them years ago.
This is literally Trump in the files. That's where this came from.
wth?
MAGA haven’t been given updated talking points so their sticking with the old ones
That doesn’t even make sense. He’s in the files, you’re looking at it right now! The DOJ released this from the files!
They couldn't due to the ongoing trial.