They think that millennials are people born during the turn of the millennium. This person is obviously a child. But, what gets me is how do you not Google stuff to double check if what youre saying is correct? It takes a real self-righteous egotistical prick to just think that everything that comes out of their mouth is true and accurate.
Plenty of people ask AI instead now, and just assume it is correct. And the double check is asking the AI if it's sure. The problem is that AI wants to tell you what you want to hear. Phrase it the right way, and you'll get the answer you want.
This can be a problem with Google too, especially with divisive subjects. If the query isn't neutral, you risk getting only or mostly results that reinforce your opinion. Learning how to do neutral searches is so important.
I consider the cutoff to the millenial generation to be around 1981, as at that time IBM moved into the personal computing market and apple had a competitor. Thats what ultimately spurred the introduction of the mac, and modern gui's; and led to us being the first generation of digital natives.
My partner is 81 and Iām 84. He considers himself gen X and I claim millennial, so we totally agree with you on the timeline. Our reasoning is slightly different though: he remembers Challenger and the Berlin Wall, while the first major international event I remember would probably be Bosnia (I read Zlataās Diary at school). I wasnāt interested in the news as a kid though, and he was.
Yeah im 82 and remember the wall coming down. The adults seemed so relieved.
EDIT: Ok ill put it this way- Millenials are the only generation who were children during civilisational peace. After the Berlin wall came down, the west was ascendant, and for 12 years we knew peace. It ended on september 11 2001, and we were thrust into a conflict with islamic civilisation. By the time we were wrapping up that conflict, China had already arisen, and Russia was once again making moves to bring eastern europe back into its sphere of influence under Putin.
I would never argue in favour of cold wars or hot wars, but I would definitely warn gen alpha that if this ever happens again the real hard work starts only after the war is over. The millenials lived to see the West lose the peace, and know that while war is hell, peace isnt all that either.
That's fair.Ā Ā In my head I've always split it by the popular music.Ā I was born in 81 and my brother was born in 83.Ā For the most part I listen to the same music my mom does, when I grew up the popular music was Metallica, etc.Ā 80s rock was what all the kids were listening to.Ā When my brother was hitting the same age, all the kids were listening to Tupac and Biggy.Ā There was a very clear and distinct cultural shift between us from the rock generation to the rap generation.Ā Fast forward to my youngest sister, she grew up a decade later in the boy bands era.Ā Culturally, I feel like I have significantly more in common with my mom than either of those siblings and always felt like the music of the era was a visible indicator.
The very existence of GenX is already revisionism, as we used to be the "Baby Bust generation". So when people dismissively call us "Boomer", they really should be using "Buster" ā already a dismissive term, so it all works out.
The only thing I can maybe think they're getting confused is that GenX "came of age" circa 1980's. Maybe they're conflating born in the 80's with coming of age around the 80's. Only way their confusion makes some sense to me. Lol.
That seems unlikely since they do reference being a kid in the 90's and early 2000's (which someone born in -86 very much was, source: I was born in -86). I think maybe they just can't count high enough to make sense of the years.
I donāt think they ever said specific ages for Steve and Nancy but based on what years of high school they are in on the various seasons, Iām guessing heās probably a year or so older than me which puts him probably 67 or 66.
The current season is late 87 when I was already graduated, and the younger kids are well into high school.
The kids were about 11-12 (not Steve, he was at least 4 years older) in the first season. My age. I literally started watching Steanger things because the trailer had Mike holding Demegorgon and I had just started playing D&D in 1983. At age 11.
And stretch Armstrong was a 1970s thing. I was born in 1979 and am aware of them but Iāve never seen one in person that I can remember. They stopped making them in 1980.
I feel like they made a small comeback sometime in the late 90s? I remember my parents and older siblings complaining that they weren't quite the same material though.
Someone else commented on the 90s: they did re-release them in 1994. I donāt see any releases between 1980 and 1994 on Wikipedia though thatās obviously not infallible.
I was born in 87 and I had a stretch Armstrong they even introduced a new enemy he was filled with some kind of grain or sand or little balls and came with a pump to suck all the air out and he'd get stiff and weird. Idk how to explain it but they had a come back. It's this guy
https://www.basicfun.com/product/stretch-armstrong-vac-man/
My older brother was born at the end of 80. My parents had bought one for him before he was born, so luckily I did get to play with one. But they were definitely a GenX thing, something most kids born in the 80s-90s didnāt have.
So I guess boomers were born in the 70s, the Silent Generation in the 60s, and of course the Greatest Generation, famously having fought in World War 2, were born starting 5 years after the end of that war.
By age 14 I was a Medical Doctor. I still lived with parents and spent my downtime writing my diary and hanging out with my best friend Vinnie Delpino.
Child labor laws werenāt truly ratified until the no child left behind act. If you didnāt have a cubicle job by 11, you would never be taken seriously for management.
Generations aren't usually 20 years. The specific ranges bounced around for a while, but I think Millennials stabilized on 81 to 96 (inclusive). Gen X 65-80. Gen Z 97-2012/2013
You can squeeze in Gen Jones from 1954-1965. We aren't exactly Boomers - different mindset due to the influence of the anti-war movement and the incoming "sex, drugs, and rock & roll" cultural zeitgeist.
All the time frames post WWII (at least) are too large. Culture changes a lot faster now than it did throughout most of human history. And it's been accelerating.
I'm an 81 millennial, and my formative years are significantly different from people born in the 90s, or even the late 80s. One example: I graduated a couple months after Columbine. Anyone even 4 years younger never knew an open high school, and I never knew a closed one. If we go just half way through the generation, we have kids doing active shooter drills... in elementary school. A completely different world from what I grew up in.
The funny part is that generations are so poorly defined. They're really whatever you want them to be.
The usual length of a human generation is 20 years. What I've always seen is the "millennial" generation began in 1981 (the year I was born) and ended at the end of 2000. 2001 would then have been the start of the generation after that (gen Z). But realistically no one can agree on precise start and end years for these things.
None of it really matters anyway. It's not like my childhood experiences were the same as someone who was born in 1994 or something just because we're in the same "generation." We had wildly different experiences even though we're both millennials.
The funny part is that generations are so poorly defined. They're really whatever you want them to be.
I'll do you one better. The simply do not exist. No scientific evidence of generations has ever been found. Except for specifically baby boom generation. That's the only generation with any scientific justification. Everything after that is purely fanfiction.
The Baby Boom is too long, frankly. I get the "boom" after WWII, but I was born in 1960, yet I'm a Boomer. What do I have in common with someone born in 1946?
I'll never forgive Strauss and Howe for thrusting this bullshit on to us and having to see Gen this and Gen that every day with these dumb arbitrary needlessly divisive categories. One of my biggest pet peeves. Astrology levels of bullshit.
It's gotten so much worse in recent years, as well. Once upon a time, a protest attended primarily by young people would be referred to as a youth protest, or a student protest. Now, every news headline calls it a "Gen Z protest", as if young people protesting is an occurence unique to the current year.
I don't understand, what scientific basis is there for a generation exactly and why would Boomers be the only exception?
There are non-arbitrary lines you can draw from technology or political events like those who grew up with a household computer and Internet access, or the first kids to have a TV in their house, born after 9/11 or COVID etc....
Someone on r/GenZ blocked me because I wrote to them that they were a millennial, they were born in 1996. They then went on to tell me that it's "dependent on the source" and based on vibes and then pulled up some sketchy website while I quoted the Library of Congress.
These types of people just pride themselves on being correct no matter whatever the subject is. Foolish ass pride. The generation you belong to is the one that you are statistically a part of.
I kind of look at it like the Detroit Lions circa 5 years ago or so. Almost no one considered the Lions a big rival, hated them, etc. But like, that's not a compliment to the franchise. It basically means they just made zero waves/impact on anyone.
Ohhods... this is bringing back nothing-burger drama from my craft groups, when someone created a generation specific group for Millenials, and so many people decided to A) take it personally that they weren't included and 2.) made stupid jabs about how "you won't be in your teens forever!" (by that time, even the younger Millenials had reached their 20s) as well as not understanding how generations work. Yes, we'll grow older; we'll still be Millenials.
I took a machine sewing class in the mid-90s at a sewing shop. I think I was the only boy but I remember having a great time. Learned how to make some cool stuff. Rocked my homemade spandex shorts for multiple summers! Crafts rule!
I'm from 84 as well, it's in a weird fluid state between millennial and gen x. I have friends who are gen x and I have friends my age. We've essentially all had the same experience. Older gen x doesn't feel as relatable though.Ā
being one of the youngest of my generation within my extended family influences it a lot too, all my cousins are younger Gen X, I grew up with them. agree on the older gen x.
Millennials are literally almost the entirety of the 80s lmao
Personally, Iām a āxennialā (the cusp of gen X and millennial), and I definitely lived that stereotypical millennial childhood, but with some Gen X thrown in for good measure (mostly music/pop culture tastes, with bits and pieces of other aspects).
Stretch Armstrong came out in 1976 and popularity declined by 1979. There was an attempt to bring it back in the 1990s by Hasbro, but that failed and it didn't truly come back until 2016.
My wife is 1985 I'm 1994... somehow we're both millennials but there are some definite generational differences with our media consumptions and toys growing up.
Understandable. My husband is an 82 baby too and its definitely a different vibe from my 87. I think some people consider 82 to be the cusp and yall would be considered Xennials.
I think I know what their problem is. I was born in 86 into a very poor family. While other millennials were experiencing technological growth first hand, my family couldn't afford such things, so I learned it as an older person, the same way gen x had to. I've never really felt included in the millennial grouping because of this.
Of course, I joined the military and met plenty of people from different backgrounds, like those who could afford progress, and they fit in with the stereotypical millennial crowd easily. But I could see someone without that exposure simply thinking that it was the norm.
genx here. most people born in 86 don't even know what stretch armstrong was, or the green guy that was also in the same line that i've forgotten the name of.
The older kids were juniors in Season 1, 1983. That should make them 16-18, so at the earliest they'd be born in 1965. If they're all very old held-back juniors, they might be the tail end of the Boomer generation, but more likely they'd be early Gen X.
Will was 11 in Season 1, and the other main kids were in the same grade, so they should all be roughly 11, putting them at 1972, solidly in the middle of Gen X.
The main kids are solidly Gen X (yeah, I said "early", that's not really true - more right in the middle), which started in 1965 or 1966 depending on source. That means some of the older "kids" in the movie (the older teens, like Joe, who was 17 in 1983, or Eddie Munson who was 20 in 1985, having been held back) were tail-end boomers or early Gen X. It's debatable since definitions vary, but some are right on the cusp.
Generations are useless, stupidly defined, and mostly just used so every time someone starts to feel old they have a fresh label for "kids these days" to blame it on.
What year were you born? All of my male cousins had them, I remember thinking the commercials were so cool and being pretty underwhelmed at the actual toy.
The generation subset of the culture wars are such a strange bird. None of you are special cos you managed to get shit out at some random point in existence, relax.
Focus on the elite class thats fucking us over, all around the wold, with its sandpaper cock.
The generation-border defense thing, of which we see a particularly weird example here, always reminds me of āMidwest.ā A really surprising range of people in places like Indiana, Texas, and Wyoming describe themselves as living in the Midwest.
These are categories with no clear borders, and the way people interact with them reveals things about our self-images.
I was born in the late 80ās. By age 2, I had left behind the corporate life to pursue my true calling in astro-quantum physics, where I won a Nobel Peace Prize for my efforts in interstellar advocacy.
He's maybe correct in thinking that millennial childhood is around 1990 - 2010, but they are also assuming millennials were born and also become 18 in the same time span. That only allows for two years worth of births. Does he think the youngest Gen X and a oldest Gen Z are 2 generations but only 3 years apart?
The term comes from having the turn of the millenium happen during your "formative years". If that is 5 to 18, then your birth could be from 1982 to 1995; so more '80s births than '90s births.
The confusion might be coming from the fact that some phrases like "[time period] kid" could refer to when you were born or when you experienced childhood or even your teenage years. Considering that you don't remember things reliably until 5, your experience of childhood is ALWAYS several years after your birth.
Determining generation by year is bumb - a rural Alabama kid is going to have a very different experience to a kid raised in Los Angeles.
Gen X childhood:
Grew up with a TV in the home, and the TV became a colour TV at some point. TV is probably a CRT.
Computers began popping up in homes during their childhood. Probably knew someone with a PC.
Phones were on the wall.
Millennial:
TV might be a plasma flatscreen.
Grew up with a home PC.
Mobile phones began popping up during their childhood. Probably knew someone with a smartphone by their late teens/early 20s.
Internet is becoming mainstream but not there yet. Social media unheard of.
Gen Z:
TV is probably an LCD.
Mobile phones ubiquitous - wealthier kids get smartphones some time in their childhoods.
Internet is mainstream - everyone they know uses the internet frequently.
Social media adoption is growing rapidly.
Gen Alpha:
TV is either a budget LCD or an OLED.
Internet ubiquitous.
Social media ubiquitious.
LLMs gaining traction, but still hotly debated.
And that's just for the more mainstream technology. You can apply similar metrics to plenty of walks of life.
Generations are not really real, they are a social construct, two people born the same year could consider themselves a millennial and the other a gen z
And gen alpha would call them both boomers
Millennials were born between 1981 and 1996, according to the Pew Research Center. This generation is also known as Generation Y and is positioned between Generation X (born 1965-1980) and Generation Z (born 1997-2012).
Had a 20 yr old Gen Zer a few years back trying to tell me he was a Millennial. Brother, you missed the boat by a few yrs. Accept that your Gen Z and learn how to Google.
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"whatever else they're showing on stranger things": those characters are GenX.
Yeah I think they are under the impression born in 80s= gen x // born in 90s = millennial
But the kids on Stranger Things (the characters, obviously, not the actors) were born in the 70s or maybe even late 60s.
The first season is set in 1983 - if Steve Harrington is older than 14, he was born in the 60's.
Yeah its honestly impossible to make sense of what this person is really thinking, i think they are severely confused lol
They think that millennials are people born during the turn of the millennium. This person is obviously a child. But, what gets me is how do you not Google stuff to double check if what youre saying is correct? It takes a real self-righteous egotistical prick to just think that everything that comes out of their mouth is true and accurate.
Plenty of people ask AI instead now, and just assume it is correct. And the double check is asking the AI if it's sure. The problem is that AI wants to tell you what you want to hear. Phrase it the right way, and you'll get the answer you want.
This can be a problem with Google too, especially with divisive subjects. If the query isn't neutral, you risk getting only or mostly results that reinforce your opinion. Learning how to do neutral searches is so important.
Let's not needlessly malign children, here. They might simply be an idiot.
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I thought this when the term was first being used. I was slightly upset to learn that I am not gen x, and am indeed a millennial. I hate the term
my twins were born in '96 and think themselves to be "Zennials"
As a Xennial, that's fair honestly.
Hello Fellow Cusper! The best I've heard for us is The Oregon Trail Generation.
Is that pronounced "Zennial" or "Ecks-ennial"?
Xennial and Zennial, your identically-pronounced bookends together at last!
Hopefully they mean Gen Z/Millennial cusp, not Gen X/Millennial cusp (Xennials), because they are definitely not the latter.
no, not "Xennial"
This right here. I was born in 81 and grew up being told I was GenX, then suddenly a few years ago I hear someone redefined it. Nah, no backsies.
I consider the cutoff to the millenial generation to be around 1981, as at that time IBM moved into the personal computing market and apple had a competitor. Thats what ultimately spurred the introduction of the mac, and modern gui's; and led to us being the first generation of digital natives.
My partner is 81 and Iām 84. He considers himself gen X and I claim millennial, so we totally agree with you on the timeline. Our reasoning is slightly different though: he remembers Challenger and the Berlin Wall, while the first major international event I remember would probably be Bosnia (I read Zlataās Diary at school). I wasnāt interested in the news as a kid though, and he was.
Yeah im 82 and remember the wall coming down. The adults seemed so relieved.
EDIT: Ok ill put it this way- Millenials are the only generation who were children during civilisational peace. After the Berlin wall came down, the west was ascendant, and for 12 years we knew peace. It ended on september 11 2001, and we were thrust into a conflict with islamic civilisation. By the time we were wrapping up that conflict, China had already arisen, and Russia was once again making moves to bring eastern europe back into its sphere of influence under Putin.
I would never argue in favour of cold wars or hot wars, but I would definitely warn gen alpha that if this ever happens again the real hard work starts only after the war is over. The millenials lived to see the West lose the peace, and know that while war is hell, peace isnt all that either.
That's fair.Ā Ā In my head I've always split it by the popular music.Ā I was born in 81 and my brother was born in 83.Ā For the most part I listen to the same music my mom does, when I grew up the popular music was Metallica, etc.Ā 80s rock was what all the kids were listening to.Ā When my brother was hitting the same age, all the kids were listening to Tupac and Biggy.Ā There was a very clear and distinct cultural shift between us from the rock generation to the rap generation.Ā Fast forward to my youngest sister, she grew up a decade later in the boy bands era.Ā Culturally, I feel like I have significantly more in common with my mom than either of those siblings and always felt like the music of the era was a visible indicator.
Finally, someone who really gets it
The very existence of GenX is already revisionism, as we used to be the "Baby Bust generation". So when people dismissively call us "Boomer", they really should be using "Buster" ā already a dismissive term, so it all works out.
This is the first time I heard the term Baby Bust.Ā Ā Interesting.Ā Ā
My wife had a brief phase of complaining about millenials, until I broke it to her that we are both millenials
Did she change who she had a grievance with, or did she realize that generations are not monoliths?
That's because they used to be called Gen Y
You could be a xennial
Apparently, it was coined in 1991. I didn't remember hearing it until the late 90s. Generation Y was fine. And Generation NeXt was hilarious.
It was coined in 1987 by Strauss and Howe.
I've met too many young adults that won't Google anything. It's so fking annoying. It's at your fingertips!
The only thing I can maybe think they're getting confused is that GenX "came of age" circa 1980's. Maybe they're conflating born in the 80's with coming of age around the 80's. Only way their confusion makes some sense to me. Lol.
That seems unlikely since they do reference being a kid in the 90's and early 2000's (which someone born in -86 very much was, source: I was born in -86). I think maybe they just can't count high enough to make sense of the years.
I assume theyāre conflating āwas a child/teenager duringā and āwas born duringā.
It's what happens when your entire frame of historical reference is a TV series.
The problem is we changed it from Gen Y to Millenials and there is a negative connotation to being a millennial. š¤·
I donāt think they ever said specific ages for Steve and Nancy but based on what years of high school they are in on the various seasons, Iām guessing heās probably a year or so older than me which puts him probably 67 or 66.
The current season is late 87 when I was already graduated, and the younger kids are well into high school.
The kids were about 11-12 (not Steve, he was at least 4 years older) in the first season. My age. I literally started watching Steanger things because the trailer had Mike holding Demegorgon and I had just started playing D&D in 1983. At age 11.
And stretch Armstrong was a 1970s thing. I was born in 1979 and am aware of them but Iāve never seen one in person that I can remember. They stopped making them in 1980.
Edit: they re-released them in 1994
I feel like they made a small comeback sometime in the late 90s? I remember my parents and older siblings complaining that they weren't quite the same material though.
Looks like they did in 1994. I wasnāt aware of that.
Yeah, they were awesome. I had one until a neighborhood bully tore it apart with his nasty ass nails. I was born in 87 BTW.
Nah, they definitely had a resurgence in the late 80s early 90s. I remember the commercials on my Saturday morning cartoons.
Someone else commented on the 90s: they did re-release them in 1994. I donāt see any releases between 1980 and 1994 on Wikipedia though thatās obviously not infallible.
A buddy had one when we were little, but I probably saw two or three total. I do remember the TV ads for both the original and the newer version.
I was born in 82, and I had one as a kid.Ā I'd say early 90s?
Born in 81 and had one as well. It sat with my My Pet Monster and my Cabbage Patch Kid LOL
I was born in 87 and I had a stretch Armstrong they even introduced a new enemy he was filled with some kind of grain or sand or little balls and came with a pump to suck all the air out and he'd get stiff and weird. Idk how to explain it but they had a come back. It's this guy https://www.basicfun.com/product/stretch-armstrong-vac-man/
My older brother was born at the end of 80. My parents had bought one for him before he was born, so luckily I did get to play with one. But they were definitely a GenX thing, something most kids born in the 80s-90s didnāt have.
they just forgot gen X. as usual.
*drowns feelings in Pretty Hate Machine
GenX is generally 1965-1980, Millenial 1980-1995 (give or take a year) Those kids were born in the 70s, so they're GenX.
The microgeneration of the /r/Xennials covers the less clear period nicely. Definitely a unique, generation-straddling group.
Gen X is roughly 1965 to 1980. Millennials are 1981 to 1996.
Dates are approximate And people will probably fudge them by a year or so either way, but your impression is wrong.
So I guess boomers were born in the 70s, the Silent Generation in the 60s, and of course the Greatest Generation, famously having fought in World War 2, were born starting 5 years after the end of that war.
yeah like. the late 90s is gen Z for those who dont know.
Yes red was calling dark teal GenX. You've pulled them up on the only part of their comments they were correct about
Was I supposed to have a corporate job at age 11?
By age 14 I was a Medical Doctor. I still lived with parents and spent my downtime writing my diary and hanging out with my best friend Vinnie Delpino.
SEPTEMBER 22, 1989...Kissed my first girl. Lost my first patient. Life will never be the same again...
Okay calm down there Doogie Howser, some of us had to complete high school before becoming doctors.
"Strike that. Reverse it."
How do you feel about white castle?
Dude I donāt even know where the fuck I am right now.
Yeah, it was a dick move. Thatās why Iām paying for your burgers.
Doggie Howser MD?
I guess I was supposed to have one by 15 or so.
I was the CEO of a huge conglomerate at 7.
That's where I went wrong.
I was in grade two.
Yeah that's just silly young. Should've pulled back on the reigns a bit.
The funny part is in the US 2nd grade is usually ages 7-8 so for us that's just a different way to say the same thing
Losers
I worked for AMC and then Blockbuster in my teens, and those are/were corporations, so maybe you other millenials were just slacking.
The term "corporate job" has a connotation of white collar work to me. The kind of thing where you would need a college degree
I worked at Subway, but that's a "food service job"
AMC and Blockbuster would be "customer service jobs"
Walmart, Target, Macy's, etc would be "retail jobs"
You're right I was just being pedantic.
You were being technically correct.
āThe best kind of correct!ā
Username checks out!
Isn't that what the economy seems to expect?
Oh no it's the white collar jobs that are gonna all be replaced by ai. This economy wants us all in low wage service jobs.
Child labor laws werenāt truly ratified until the no child left behind act. If you didnāt have a cubicle job by 11, you would never be taken seriously for management.
1986 to 1996 is 20years... Apparently...
Generations aren't usually 20 years. The specific ranges bounced around for a while, but I think Millennials stabilized on 81 to 96 (inclusive). Gen X 65-80. Gen Z 97-2012/2013
I think that was a woosh.
You can squeeze in Gen Jones from 1954-1965. We aren't exactly Boomers - different mindset due to the influence of the anti-war movement and the incoming "sex, drugs, and rock & roll" cultural zeitgeist.
All the time frames post WWII (at least) are too large. Culture changes a lot faster now than it did throughout most of human history. And it's been accelerating.
I'm an 81 millennial, and my formative years are significantly different from people born in the 90s, or even the late 80s. One example: I graduated a couple months after Columbine. Anyone even 4 years younger never knew an open high school, and I never knew a closed one. If we go just half way through the generation, we have kids doing active shooter drills... in elementary school. A completely different world from what I grew up in.
What can I say. The 90s were rough.
This is even dumber than the people who try to make the entire ā90s gen Z birth years.
isnt like '99 the cut off?
i couldve googled this
its 1997
This was a rollercoaster.. out here just quoting my internal monologue. thanks for the laugh š
thank you for laughing š
The funny part is that generations are so poorly defined. They're really whatever you want them to be.
The usual length of a human generation is 20 years. What I've always seen is the "millennial" generation began in 1981 (the year I was born) and ended at the end of 2000. 2001 would then have been the start of the generation after that (gen Z). But realistically no one can agree on precise start and end years for these things.
None of it really matters anyway. It's not like my childhood experiences were the same as someone who was born in 1994 or something just because we're in the same "generation." We had wildly different experiences even though we're both millennials.
I'll do you one better. The simply do not exist. No scientific evidence of generations has ever been found. Except for specifically baby boom generation. That's the only generation with any scientific justification. Everything after that is purely fanfiction.
I mean, take the Silent Generation. Some of those folks never shut up. Although to be fair most of them are deathly quiet.
The Baby Boom is too long, frankly. I get the "boom" after WWII, but I was born in 1960, yet I'm a Boomer. What do I have in common with someone born in 1946?
Edit: spelling
The total lack of scientific evidence has never stopped anyone from pigeonholing people in the past. Don't see why it suddenly would now.
I'll never forgive Strauss and Howe for thrusting this bullshit on to us and having to see Gen this and Gen that every day with these dumb arbitrary needlessly divisive categories. One of my biggest pet peeves. Astrology levels of bullshit.
It's gotten so much worse in recent years, as well. Once upon a time, a protest attended primarily by young people would be referred to as a youth protest, or a student protest. Now, every news headline calls it a "Gen Z protest", as if young people protesting is an occurence unique to the current year.
I don't understand, what scientific basis is there for a generation exactly and why would Boomers be the only exception?
There are non-arbitrary lines you can draw from technology or political events like those who grew up with a household computer and Internet access, or the first kids to have a TV in their house, born after 9/11 or COVID etc....
Well there is a gigantic diffefence between being born in 1940 and 1950
There is a miniscule difference between being born 1980 and 1990.
I'm just glad that almost no one calls us "The mypod generation" anymore.
r/characterarcs
Jk, I love the stream-of-consciousness here though!
For Americans around the zennial cutoff: Do you remember 9/11 happening in real time? If yes: Millennial; if no because too young: Gen Z
Isn't it evern different depending on region/ country?
I'm sure i've heard for germany the split is on the year 2000.
Or 1995?
Someone on r/GenZ blocked me because I wrote to them that they were a millennial, they were born in 1996. They then went on to tell me that it's "dependent on the source" and based on vibes and then pulled up some sketchy website while I quoted the Library of Congress.
These types of people just pride themselves on being correct no matter whatever the subject is. Foolish ass pride. The generation you belong to is the one that you are statistically a part of.
My sister was late GenX and graduated HS in 96...
Do they think the kids in Stranger Things, who were 12 in the first season set in 1983... were born in the 80s?
Yeah he's very confused. Stranger Things is absolutely about Gen X's childhood.
Considering they think a 14 year old would be working a corporate job, yes.
Kid must be genius if he's born in 88 and then started working at corporate in late 90s
You just need to walk into a store, ask to see the manager and give them a firm handshake.
Just another reminder that idiots have thought the word "millennial" was a synonym for "dadgum teenagers!!!" for about thirty years now.
Lol that guy thinks we had corporate gigs while in our teens. I would have a lot more saved up if that were the case!
Iām think that guy canāt math
I think that guy probably has many many problems...math is certainly one of them.
Isn't it spelled "meth"?
No, meth would be one of them problems
Millennial life. Get blamed for everything, then get told your not a Millenial. And people wonder why most of our humor is dark. Lol.
At least people talk about us.
Sorry Gen X.
No need to be sorry. I like it. Who is saying "you know who fuck up the world? Gen X, that's who!"
Boomers and millenials (or younger people) get blamed for everything, not us.
Yeah, but is that good or bad?
I kind of look at it like the Detroit Lions circa 5 years ago or so. Almost no one considered the Lions a big rival, hated them, etc. But like, that's not a compliment to the franchise. It basically means they just made zero waves/impact on anyone.
Yeah, talking about dark humorā¦ I will give that to Gen X
Ohhods... this is bringing back nothing-burger drama from my craft groups, when someone created a generation specific group for Millenials, and so many people decided to A) take it personally that they weren't included and 2.) made stupid jabs about how "you won't be in your teens forever!" (by that time, even the younger Millenials had reached their 20s) as well as not understanding how generations work. Yes, we'll grow older; we'll still be Millenials.
Crafty thinkers! lol
Incorrelty not thinking, in this case
I took a machine sewing class in the mid-90s at a sewing shop. I think I was the only boy but I remember having a great time. Learned how to make some cool stuff. Rocked my homemade spandex shorts for multiple summers! Crafts rule!
Hell yes!
Gatekeeping them, however, sucks
Everyone needs to be invited to do crafts. The world will be a better place almost instantly.
100%!!
Sew a button, build a bird feeder. Regardless of gender.
Both will make a positive change
The Kids Aren't Alright
People try to put us down.
The "early aughts" would have to be no later than '04, and if someone was born in '86 they would have been in highschool in '04.
Source: I was born in January of '86 and graduated Highschool in '04
Millennial years are 81 to 96. This is pretty universally accepted and easily googled lol
80s babies were definitely kids in the 90s. The tail end of Gen X were still kids and teens in the 90s.
Somebody doesn't know how generations, or time, or ages, or math works.
I was born in 84, and relate more to Gen X. I chalk that up to just being poor as fuck and having no supervision though.
I'm from 84 as well, it's in a weird fluid state between millennial and gen x. I have friends who are gen x and I have friends my age. We've essentially all had the same experience. Older gen x doesn't feel as relatable though.Ā
being one of the youngest of my generation within my extended family influences it a lot too, all my cousins are younger Gen X, I grew up with them. agree on the older gen x.
If you're born in the 80s you wouldn't be as old as the kids in stranger things in the 80s
He's right about downfall of society though, especially the internet
If only there were some way to figure out when people who reached adulthood around the turn of the millennium were born
Late 90ās to early aughts? How long do they think a generation spans š
Well theyād be correct about the span.. if they had started at the right year.
Millennials are literally almost the entirety of the 80s lmao
Personally, Iām a āxennialā (the cusp of gen X and millennial), and I definitely lived that stereotypical millennial childhood, but with some Gen X thrown in for good measure (mostly music/pop culture tastes, with bits and pieces of other aspects).
1980 here, got both X and Millenial experiences. Xennial always seemed weird to me as a label though.
Yeah I identify more with GenX but I really donāt care which one somebody calls me
Stretch Armstrong came out in 1976 and popularity declined by 1979. There was an attempt to bring it back in the 1990s by Hasbro, but that failed and it didn't truly come back until 2016.
So even that dig was incorrect.
My wife is 1985 I'm 1994... somehow we're both millennials but there are some definite generational differences with our media consumptions and toys growing up.
They're completely wrong but . . .
I was born in 1982 and absolutely associate more with GenX than Millennial.
Understandable. My husband is an 82 baby too and its definitely a different vibe from my 87. I think some people consider 82 to be the cusp and yall would be considered Xennials.
Join us as xennials!
"whatever else they're showing on stranger things" Which is a show about gen-x kids
You mean the 12-year-olds in the '80s are Gen x? Almost like they were born in the '70s
Technically if you were born in 1980 itself, you are Gen x.... So he's 1/10thright?
I think I know what their problem is. I was born in 86 into a very poor family. While other millennials were experiencing technological growth first hand, my family couldn't afford such things, so I learned it as an older person, the same way gen x had to. I've never really felt included in the millennial grouping because of this.
Of course, I joined the military and met plenty of people from different backgrounds, like those who could afford progress, and they fit in with the stereotypical millennial crowd easily. But I could see someone without that exposure simply thinking that it was the norm.
They're saying they were born in 86 right? That's solidly a millennial
It's the other person who is confidently incorrect
Cool, wikipedia suggests you're dumb af.
Most millennials were born in the '80s. Late '90s are Gen Z
I did work at Blockbuster in 98-99. I guess a few of us xennials were working for large corps.
genx here. most people born in 86 don't even know what stretch armstrong was, or the green guy that was also in the same line that i've forgotten the name of.
Someone finds the concept of being born in one decade, but growing up in another a little hard to comprehend apparently.
Isnāt early 80ās elder millennial? They got a taste of Gen X culture but ultimately were still crapped on.
They have the intelligence of a jizz tissue
Late 90s, the kids born in the mid 70s were graduating high school. None of us were landing corporate jobs at 18.
The calculation is off. Mid 70s to late 90s is a bit more than 20 years. If it was mid 70s and early 90s, though, then yeah.
I meant to say mid 70s to mid 90s. My brother and I are mid to late 70s and graduated mid 90s.
Right. I was born in the early 80s and graduated in the late 90s.
I was born in 1976 and graduated high school in 1993.
Some of the older kids on Stranger Things are arguably Boomers. The actual main kids are all early Gen X.
The older kids were juniors in Season 1, 1983. That should make them 16-18, so at the earliest they'd be born in 1965. If they're all very old held-back juniors, they might be the tail end of the Boomer generation, but more likely they'd be early Gen X.
Will was 11 in Season 1, and the other main kids were in the same grade, so they should all be roughly 11, putting them at 1972, solidly in the middle of Gen X.
The main kids are solidly Gen X (yeah, I said "early", that's not really true - more right in the middle), which started in 1965 or 1966 depending on source. That means some of the older "kids" in the movie (the older teens, like Joe, who was 17 in 1983, or Eddie Munson who was 20 in 1985, having been held back) were tail-end boomers or early Gen X. It's debatable since definitions vary, but some are right on the cusp.
Okay, when you referred to the older kids, I thought you meant Nancy/Jonathan/Steve
Fair enough. Yeah, theyāre all early Gen X.
Generations are useless, stupidly defined, and mostly just used so every time someone starts to feel old they have a fresh label for "kids these days" to blame it on.
Gotta be a smooth shark. The '11-year-olds in corporate jobs' bit flips it.
People really seem to think generations are only 10 years now.
Honestly this just shows why the whole generation thing is stupid.
I have never in my life seen a stretch Armstrong except on TV.
What year were you born? All of my male cousins had them, I remember thinking the commercials were so cool and being pretty underwhelmed at the actual toy.
It was a 70s toy mainly
Xennial
I just want to know where I can find this OOPā¦ š
The generation subset of the culture wars are such a strange bird. None of you are special cos you managed to get shit out at some random point in existence, relax.
Focus on the elite class thats fucking us over, all around the wold, with its sandpaper cock.
They never bother to even check they're right before being so condescending. It's hilarious.
Wtf do they think a millennial is?
The generation-border defense thing, of which we see a particularly weird example here, always reminds me of āMidwest.ā A really surprising range of people in places like Indiana, Texas, and Wyoming describe themselves as living in the Midwest.
These are categories with no clear borders, and the way people interact with them reveals things about our self-images.
... if you were born in the late 80s, then your childhood WAS the 90s and early 00s.... what an idiot.
"millenial[sic] childhood of late 90s to early aughts" Okay so like they just got Gen Z and millennial confused
I was born in the late 80ās. By age 2, I had left behind the corporate life to pursue my true calling in astro-quantum physics, where I won a Nobel Peace Prize for my efforts in interstellar advocacy.
He's maybe correct in thinking that millennial childhood is around 1990 - 2010, but they are also assuming millennials were born and also become 18 in the same time span. That only allows for two years worth of births. Does he think the youngest Gen X and a oldest Gen Z are 2 generations but only 3 years apart?
The term comes from having the turn of the millenium happen during your "formative years". If that is 5 to 18, then your birth could be from 1982 to 1995; so more '80s births than '90s births.
The confusion might be coming from the fact that some phrases like "[time period] kid" could refer to when you were born or when you experienced childhood or even your teenage years. Considering that you don't remember things reliably until 5, your experience of childhood is ALWAYS several years after your birth.
Wasn't Stretch Armstrong a 70s thing? I had one back then.
Someone born in 86 would have been starting high school between 2001-2002 time frame, this person is just fractally wrong.
[Double checks a chart on wikipedia]
Yeah, uhh. . Those are definitely not mysterious downvotes, lol
[1981 to 1996]
Edit: Also, blue name was 14 at best by 2000
Definitely not working any corporate job in the 90s, lol
Determining generation by year is bumb - a rural Alabama kid is going to have a very different experience to a kid raised in Los Angeles.
Gen X childhood:
Grew up with a TV in the home, and the TV became a colour TV at some point. TV is probably a CRT.
Computers began popping up in homes during their childhood. Probably knew someone with a PC.
Phones were on the wall.
Millennial:
TV might be a plasma flatscreen.
Grew up with a home PC.
Mobile phones began popping up during their childhood. Probably knew someone with a smartphone by their late teens/early 20s.
Internet is becoming mainstream but not there yet. Social media unheard of.
Gen Z:
TV is probably an LCD.
Mobile phones ubiquitous - wealthier kids get smartphones some time in their childhoods.
Internet is mainstream - everyone they know uses the internet frequently.
Social media adoption is growing rapidly.
Gen Alpha:
TV is either a budget LCD or an OLED.
Internet ubiquitous.
Social media ubiquitious.
LLMs gaining traction, but still hotly debated.
And that's just for the more mainstream technology. You can apply similar metrics to plenty of walks of life.
Generations are not really real, they are a social construct, two people born the same year could consider themselves a millennial and the other a gen z And gen alpha would call them both boomers
Millennials were born between 1981 and 1996, according to the Pew Research Center. This generation is also known as Generation Y and is positioned between Generation X (born 1965-1980) and Generation Z (born 1997-2012).
Had a 20 yr old Gen Zer a few years back trying to tell me he was a Millennial. Brother, you missed the boat by a few yrs. Accept that your Gen Z and learn how to Google.