You think it's a coincidence we have a football team called the Giants? Yea just so happens we have real names for all the other teams, but then giants are the only ones that ARENT real?
We used to elect our biggest and strongest. Remember learning about Abraham Lincoln in school? He was known for the tall hat, his large hands, and being 475 feet tall.
maybe if they took an art class instead of flunking through a “scientist” degree they would understand what the difference between marble and clay with joists is
It's not just nonstandard, it's incorrect. 'Casted' is not a word in the English language except idiomatically colloquially, and any time it's used, a Grammar Angel loses their wings...
Edit - apparently casted is a past tense formation of caste (see below), which is probably a rare use case in general.
I hate that I know this because of HR but casted is a term that refers to past tense classification of caste. I live in America but have A LOT of Indian coworkers being shitty to one another.
'Casted' is not a word in the English language except idiomatically
...sorry is that not the definition of a word being used and thus not incorrect?
Anyway, Wiktionary has "casted" listed as a past tense of "cast", with the note "common, but sometimes proscribed". Which checks out with how I've heard it used.
If they were a bunch of fucking corpses instead of marble, then minor damage would have made this obvious CENTURIES ago. Unless of course the all-powerful sneople kept burying the secret every time it got out. Except for this heroic scientist!
No, it's above the elbow. It's not the statue in the forefront, whose arm is complete. It's a second one behind it, missing most of it's arm, above the elbow
You missed the best part of that joke. He actually might have called 411.
"Is it 411 or 911 in New York?"
Edit:
Which is even funnier than how I said it because if he got 911 right his answer to "911 where's the location of your emergency" is "New York" or he was with 411 and giving the right answer to the question "what state?"
Lolol, my bad. I love Dr. Spaceman so much. Beyond the 4th wall, Parnell does an amazing job playing the role. He’s so sincere in his delivery, I love it.
He was amazing on the live episode. Like I know they're going for the SNL vibe specifically on the live episode, but he was just like "oh...in the polished regular episodes you're still just the exact same over the top live sketch character" lol. Like there was no difference. Same enunciations, same mannerisms, whereas almost everyone else you can tell it's different for them in front of an audience versus a, as Jenna would say, CAMERAH
Top five sitcoms ever and I am something of a connoisseur
To be really smartass about it, in anatomy the 'arm' specifically refers to what you call the upper arm. The, uh, lower arm is correctly called the forearm.
Nah they're just hockey players. A forecheck and a back check for example. By this logic the top arm will be called the back arm to avoid confusion going further
Let's put aside for a second the fact that that's not what the inside of the lower arm looks like. Let's even put aside the fact that marble statues break so easily that if this was what the artists of old were doing, it would be common knowledge centuries ago. If you were going to cheat with cadavers, this isn't the way to go.
Marble isn't like clay. You can't just slap it on top of a form and have it wrap around that form and take on the shape of it. It's a rock. There's a reason that the traditional tools of marble carving are chisels, not pottery tools.
Even if you could make a fake "marble" that acted like clay but looked like marble down to the molecular level? You couldn't just slap it on a form and expect to get all the details. You would have to carve those details back into your sculpture.
Your best bet would be to pose the cadaver and then create a mold. Wait for the mold to set, then remove the cadaver and pour your "marble" and make a cast. Oh, and go ahead and destroy your mold after one use, because if two "sculptures" show up that are completely identical, the gig is up.
None of this makes any sense if you sit down and think about it for longer than five seconds. This goes beyond even flat earth. This is "the moon is made of cheese" levels of stupidity.
Most likely not a dong and maybe some fabric or something. They weren’t big into large manhoods with these statues because it was considered a negative trait
Many theories like that about old art and architecture. People today can't comprehend that something can be made without the help of modern technology because they lack the skills that people before had.
Literally impossible, soft tissue can not petrify into marble. Marble is made of quartz, mica, clay minerals, iron oxides, pyrite, and graphite. While it's not totally impossible to petrify soft human tissue it only happens under extremely specific conditions like quick burial by ash in extremely low oxygen environment. Pompie remains are an example of this. However, those soft tissues can only petrify to silica, pyrite, and apatite. Notice the other ingredients of marble are missing from that list. Like 99% of the time soft tissue can only leave an impression while the bones fossilize.
Marble specifically is only created through a process called metamorphism where limestone is heated under extreme pressure deep in the earths crust. Calcite recrystallizes the already existing crystal structures fusing them together into a much denser stone.
Also under a microscope "true marble" is identified as former limestone due to those preexisting structures before metamorphism occurs. Fossil marble is also identified this way by the absence of those limestone structures.
If I had to guess, differential weathering. There areas that are white are either bleached out by sun/acid rain and the dark areas are more rough and less weathered showing a truer color of the stone. Alternatively, the dark areas could be some sort of discoloration from bacteria or fungus. Could also just be natural color variation in the stone
Some statues aren't carved stone, but plastered clay. The clay would be formed around some structure, an armature. This may be what you are seeing - the armature, covered in clay, and then plastered.
Alternately, it may have been fixed in the past - a hole bored into both pieces, a rod placed to support it, and bonded with an adhesive or mortar.
As this statue is inside, it is probably fairly new. But I don't recognise it, so I can't tell you where it is.
Plenty of more likely ungulates to choose before you assume it is a zebra.
Looks more Like a statue in the Marly or Puget Courtyard in the Louvre Museum.
Looks more like the Marly Courtyard and if so these are the original Statues that were in the Gardens of the Marly Domain under the time of Louis the XIV. (It's probably a representation of Neptune)
TLDR: The statues we know today are hardly a representation of what they looked like when they were created.
Long Explaination:
Most Roman and Greek statues had arms originally and they were often ornately painted. But if you leave a statue in say - a public square, a garden, an arena, or outside a political building - deterioration takes place.
Not only that, some artists carved the arms separated and attached them onsite because marble is fragile.
Some statues were vandalized over time as well. Some statues were in cities that were conquered and became damaged. Some people took the pieces of different statues.
Some statues were vandalized for political or religious reasons. Pope Paul IV ordered all ancient male statues have the genitals removed in the mid 1500s for indecency or immortality. Most of the statues that have fig leaf covered genitals were given the fig leaves by Pope Innocent X and Pope Clement XIII. Pope Pius IX actually had multiple full sculptures destroyed in the mid 1800s for similar reasons.
The Romans themselves reused statues. Some statues of the emperor's had the heads removed so they could place the head of the new emperor on it.
What we go to the museum to see today, is far from what the statues looked like at the time of their creation.
As a non-scientist, I find it amazing they could breed humans so thin and sinewy that when you put them in clay they look like regular humans instead of humans covered in clay.
Rodin worked in a variety of scales because he too faced this accusation. Many of his statues are larger than life, proving it was all sculpted and not cast.
A Bucket of Blood is basically this and it's great (and snippy at like, 60-something minutes long). It was directed by the legendary Roger Corman and it's also hilarious if you like (or hate) Beat culture.
I don’t think I’ve ever heard an actual scientist lower themselves to calling themselves a “scientist”. They either specify their field/credentials, or just speak their point lol.
... What does this mean about Mt. Rushmore?
Giants. That closely resemble former presidents.
The Illuminati hired guys who looked like the giants and made them presidents to cover up the giants existed.
Please don't let flat earthers see this. It will be their next thing to latch on to.
But the earth is flat! The proof is that I can walk forward. I couldn’t do that on a round surface. 🤓🤣
Got me. Can't refute that. /s
Fucking BRILLIANT!
People say LOL all the time. I never laugh audibly at something I’ve read online. This made me LOL
You are joking but open up Instagram and there will be at least 5 people who would genuinely take this as a fact
I submit Trolls, and direct you to the Netflix Original for proof.
That’s a plausibility.
Ohhh just like the those mountains that are actually “ancient trees.”
Like AOT. One day the true founding father will return and set off the second pioneering, wiping the country all but clean of its prior inhabitants.
Manifest Destiny 2: Electric Boogaloo
"all but clean"
So you mean 'not clean' ?
Clean but not fully clean
Have you ever seen those presidents in person? How do you know they ever existed!
People were just bigger back then.
Attack on Titan is a historical documentary
HAVE WE LEARNED NOTHING FROM DISNEY'S HERCULES?
I learned I have a thing for brunettes
I think we all learned that brother
I learned I have a thing for Danny Devito as a Satyr.
Giants... Dingus..
You think it's a coincidence we have a football team called the Giants? Yea just so happens we have real names for all the other teams, but then giants are the only ones that ARENT real?
Wake up.
📢 Rumbling, Rumbling! 🎵🎶
Thar's skulls in them thar hills
He was the scariest president. They had to imprison him in a mountain to end his rampage
Washington, Washington. 6 foot 8 weighs a fucking ton.
These enormous presidents will devour us all!
Have you ever watched attack on titan?
Omg mizu 5 pfp
We used to elect our biggest and strongest. Remember learning about Abraham Lincoln in school? He was known for the tall hat, his large hands, and being 475 feet tall.
Yes, attack on titan is real
Tiny giants made of tinier giants.
Before the faces were carved into the mountain, it’s beauty was unpresidented
They're not marble, so that doesn't apply.
The mountain just did that, it wasnt man made
People used to be a little bit bigger than they are today
https://preview.redd.it/h49vp9ng7v6g1.jpeg?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a6cfc0d8527a7a9854ab18ea42f241153c20a505
To this day I say “I SCIENTIST, YOU SCIENTIST. SCIENCE!” when my kid talks about science class. Nobody gets it though
Omg someone beat me to it, I love this sub sometimes
I don't get the reference
It’s a reference to this skit.
Thank you
Guys guys guys… but they’re a scientist
https://i.redd.it/301azlrx7v6g1.gif
The hell is this from lmao
Dumb and Dumber.
...in social sciences
Art history is a social science, I suppose. Pretty sure this guy is not an art historian. Or a geologist—casting marble?
....because they've tried and failed at being social, several times
(more on x.com)
I mean, thats technically a massive compliment to the artist
He’s discrediting their work (I’m a artist)
The maker is dead (I'm alive)
They's not just dead—they're no longer living (I'm an LLM)
I'm an LLM too, but here that means a postgrad law degree 🤷♂️
Nah, he’s just an idiot (I’m an idiot).
Can confirm )I'm an stupid dumbass)
he's attempting to. but he's actually telling everyone it's so life like he got fooled.
About time these guys got some recognition!
Casted marble?
maybe if they took an art class instead of flunking through a “scientist” degree they would understand what the difference between marble and clay with joists is
And an english class to know the past tense of "cast" is "cast"
You do see "casted" once in a while but it's nonstandard and, to my ear, kinda grating lol
It's not just nonstandard, it's incorrect. 'Casted' is not a word in the English language except
idiomaticallycolloquially, and any time it's used, a Grammar Angel loses their wings...Edit - apparently casted is a past tense formation of caste (see below), which is probably a rare use case in general.
I hate that I know this because of HR but casted is a term that refers to past tense classification of caste. I live in America but have A LOT of Indian coworkers being shitty to one another.
Interesting. TIL.
...sorry is that not the definition of a word being used and thus not incorrect?
Anyway, Wiktionary has "casted" listed as a past tense of "cast", with the note "common, but sometimes proscribed". Which checks out with how I've heard it used.
You don't understand! It's not a real word, it's just a thing people say! /s
This makes me nonplussed
Funny, I use cast as past tense for casting concrete and casted as past tense for casting an actor, but I guess I was wrong
Wait, Scientology doesn't make you a real scientist?
The “ancient lost technology” of cast marble s/
If it were part of the lower arm, wouldn't it have two bones (the radius and ulna)?
Do you doubt a scientist?
Only exclusively
Harvard PhD over here
He did his own research!
Unless you’re a scientist shut up.
I'm not a scientist but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express one time.
If they were a bunch of fucking corpses instead of marble, then minor damage would have made this obvious CENTURIES ago. Unless of course the all-powerful sneople kept burying the secret every time it got out. Except for this heroic scientist!
Also, that would mean everyone in this era was jacked
clearly these are victims of gorgons
I think the thousands of scholars would've noticed if the statues had fucking fingerprints
sneople
that's literally not the lower part of the arm
Its past the elbow, regardless there should have been 2 bones
No, it's above the elbow. It's not the statue in the forefront, whose arm is complete. It's a second one behind it, missing most of it's arm, above the elbow
Ah yes my arm also only has one bone
edit: yes, smartasses the upper arm has one
The arm bone
Is connected to the... Leg bone! I'm something of a doctor myself
https://i.redd.it/k26ejhjmev6g1.gif
Surgeon simulator 3000
“Science is…whatever we want it to be”
“Hello, 911? Uhh…diabetes repair I guess…”
You missed the best part of that joke. He actually might have called 411.
"Is it 411 or 911 in New York?"
Edit:
Which is even funnier than how I said it because if he got 911 right his answer to "911 where's the location of your emergency" is "New York" or he was with 411 and giving the right answer to the question "what state?"
Lolol, my bad. I love Dr. Spaceman so much. Beyond the 4th wall, Parnell does an amazing job playing the role. He’s so sincere in his delivery, I love it.
He was amazing on the live episode. Like I know they're going for the SNL vibe specifically on the live episode, but he was just like "oh...in the polished regular episodes you're still just the exact same over the top live sketch character" lol. Like there was no difference. Same enunciations, same mannerisms, whereas almost everyone else you can tell it's different for them in front of an audience versus a, as Jenna would say, CAMERAH
Top five sitcoms ever and I am something of a connoisseur
I'm not a doctor but I do dabble in pharmaceuticals
To be really smartass about it, in anatomy the 'arm' specifically refers to what you call the upper arm. The, uh, lower arm is correctly called the forearm.
Well that's just directionally confused these doctors are a buncha dickheads
Nah they're just hockey players. A forecheck and a back check for example. By this logic the top arm will be called the back arm to avoid confusion going further
That part of the arm? Yeah, it does. The humerus.
Quite funny
That part of the arm on the sculpture is the forearm, which has 2 bones
Your upper arm does in fact only have one bone.
No duh. This is clearly below the elbow
Same (I’m a scientist)
That's quite humerus
Let's put aside for a second the fact that that's not what the inside of the lower arm looks like. Let's even put aside the fact that marble statues break so easily that if this was what the artists of old were doing, it would be common knowledge centuries ago. If you were going to cheat with cadavers, this isn't the way to go.
Marble isn't like clay. You can't just slap it on top of a form and have it wrap around that form and take on the shape of it. It's a rock. There's a reason that the traditional tools of marble carving are chisels, not pottery tools.
Even if you could make a fake "marble" that acted like clay but looked like marble down to the molecular level? You couldn't just slap it on a form and expect to get all the details. You would have to carve those details back into your sculpture.
Your best bet would be to pose the cadaver and then create a mold. Wait for the mold to set, then remove the cadaver and pour your "marble" and make a cast. Oh, and go ahead and destroy your mold after one use, because if two "sculptures" show up that are completely identical, the gig is up.
None of this makes any sense if you sit down and think about it for longer than five seconds. This goes beyond even flat earth. This is "the moon is made of cheese" levels of stupidity.
Waitaminute...the moon is made of cheese?! /s
It’s a natural process, the Milky way churns up cheesy moons all over the firmament
*Pfff* You believe in the MOON? Really?
That’s why they don’t allow anyone to return there. The cheese is still curing. /s
I think it’s “the jig is up” *
The “lost technology“ of ancient marble cast s/
Obviously you don't believe in science, then.
Well, he does have PhDs in parapsychology and psychology.
But his theories are the worst kind of popular tripe, his methods are sloppy, and his conclusions are highly questionable.
Night in the museum plot be like
Wtf is that massive dong coming into frame from the left?
I think you answered your own question.
Most likely not a dong and maybe some fabric or something. They weren’t big into large manhoods with these statues because it was considered a negative trait
That is a geoduck. This statue is in Malaysia where they are used spiritually.
casted human dong, duh
THANK YOU. That’s all I could see in the pic!
There are a number of books that actually claim many marble "statues" are merely the petrified remains of people.
Oh, well if a number of books say it then it's clearly not batshit insane
Not saying its not insane. But I find it funny others also came to the same conclusion.
Many people came to the conclusion that the Earth is flat
Australians would fall off if it wasn’t
Always knew they were full of shit
It’s actually a very big compliment. The sculptor did such a great job it made people think it’s a real body.
Some of these sculptures are amazing to look up close. Photos or video can’t really capture how they look in real life.
Many theories like that about old art and architecture. People today can't comprehend that something can be made without the help of modern technology because they lack the skills that people before had.
Yeah books like the Odyessey
Some statues even contain actual human remains. But I'm gonna guess that's not typical.
https://www.cnn.com/2015/02/27/asia/mummified-monk-statue
Thats ritualistic intent, not artistic pieces
yes it is very rare these days (banned during the Meiji restoration 😞)
Can't put corpses in sculptures anymore. Cuz of woke
First they came for the sculptures…
Literally impossible, soft tissue can not petrify into marble. Marble is made of quartz, mica, clay minerals, iron oxides, pyrite, and graphite. While it's not totally impossible to petrify soft human tissue it only happens under extremely specific conditions like quick burial by ash in extremely low oxygen environment. Pompie remains are an example of this. However, those soft tissues can only petrify to silica, pyrite, and apatite. Notice the other ingredients of marble are missing from that list. Like 99% of the time soft tissue can only leave an impression while the bones fossilize.
Marble specifically is only created through a process called metamorphism where limestone is heated under extreme pressure deep in the earths crust. Calcite recrystallizes the already existing crystal structures fusing them together into a much denser stone.
Also under a microscope "true marble" is identified as former limestone due to those preexisting structures before metamorphism occurs. Fossil marble is also identified this way by the absence of those limestone structures.
TL:DR nah dawg
Pretty sure there was a crap horror movie based on that premise too.
House of wax? Lol
That was it! God I sometimes miss those shitty old movies.
Okay, but why does it look like that? Did it snap off at some point in history and get chipped pereptually?
If I had to guess, differential weathering. There areas that are white are either bleached out by sun/acid rain and the dark areas are more rough and less weathered showing a truer color of the stone. Alternatively, the dark areas could be some sort of discoloration from bacteria or fungus. Could also just be natural color variation in the stone
Some statues aren't carved stone, but plastered clay. The clay would be formed around some structure, an armature. This may be what you are seeing - the armature, covered in clay, and then plastered.
Alternately, it may have been fixed in the past - a hole bored into both pieces, a rod placed to support it, and bonded with an adhesive or mortar.
As this statue is inside, it is probably fairly new. But I don't recognise it, so I can't tell you where it is.
Plenty of more likely ungulates to choose before you assume it is a zebra.
I'm guessing it's 19th century and in the Musée d'Orsay.
Looks more Like a statue in the Marly or Puget Courtyard in the Louvre Museum.
Looks more like the Marly Courtyard and if so these are the original Statues that were in the Gardens of the Marly Domain under the time of Louis the XIV. (It's probably a representation of Neptune)
That’s actually calcified lumps of aluminum foil wrapped around the steel wire used as a frame. They were pretttty advanced back then.
A "scientist" that can't research.
TLDR: The statues we know today are hardly a representation of what they looked like when they were created.
Long Explaination:
Most Roman and Greek statues had arms originally and they were often ornately painted. But if you leave a statue in say - a public square, a garden, an arena, or outside a political building - deterioration takes place.
Not only that, some artists carved the arms separated and attached them onsite because marble is fragile.
Some statues were vandalized over time as well. Some statues were in cities that were conquered and became damaged. Some people took the pieces of different statues.
Some statues were vandalized for political or religious reasons. Pope Paul IV ordered all ancient male statues have the genitals removed in the mid 1500s for indecency or immortality. Most of the statues that have fig leaf covered genitals were given the fig leaves by Pope Innocent X and Pope Clement XIII. Pope Pius IX actually had multiple full sculptures destroyed in the mid 1800s for similar reasons.
The Romans themselves reused statues. Some statues of the emperor's had the heads removed so they could place the head of the new emperor on it.
What we go to the museum to see today, is far from what the statues looked like at the time of their creation.
I’m just a tist but that don’t seem correct o mundo.
Let them explain how one wraps a body in marble 🤔
Oh you don’t know? They just dip them in molten marble. I’m a marblologist, so that’s how I know LOL!
You can tell they’re a scientist because they see one datapoint that matches their hypothesis and immediately declare success.
Regular people would never understand
https://i.redd.it/p8shs4ekiv6g1.gif
Okay.. so the statute of liberty… oh no..
So they had tiny penises for real then. (I'm a penis connoisseur)
People are spectacularly dumb
Source: went to classical sculpting school in Europe where you start by making copies of David in your first term
Me when I mold the clay to a bone to give it structure “I wonder if anyone’s gonna think I’m a psychopath when this cracks open one day”
As a non-scientist, I find it amazing they could breed humans so thin and sinewy that when you put them in clay they look like regular humans instead of humans covered in clay.
Wait, so if the statue of David is a cast then how fuckin' tall was Goliath?
Mmm yes let me just cast some lads with my molten marble
Such an odd cliff to die on
Weeping angels 🤓
Rodin worked in a variety of scales because he too faced this accusation. Many of his statues are larger than life, proving it was all sculpted and not cast.
Bro sounds like Mr. Fantastic from New Vegas lol
That’s actually a cool horror concept. An artist serial killer that casts human bodies.
A Bucket of Blood is basically this and it's great (and snippy at like, 60-something minutes long). It was directed by the legendary Roger Corman and it's also hilarious if you like (or hate) Beat culture.
Doctooor Valturia…
https://i.redd.it/ffk93ynriv6g1.gif
But the kids love us.
Anyone out there who is a scientist (but actually), would you ever introduce yourself as "a scientist" rather than by your field in a serious context?
Can you cast marble and have it come out decently?
He’s a scientist!
I mean I wanted to argue against it but what could I say to a scientist ?
My main field of study was dead body statue physics.
Ah yes scientist. Like we talking biologist, chemist, astronomer? Just scientist doesn't mean you know what you're talking about
Glad they clarified they were a scientist, now I believe them 100%
I mean they could very well have used dead bodies to reference while making the statue but thats about it
The ghoulish truth: Medusa was the artist
He must think mt rushmore is the decapitated heads of giant presidents.
I’m a scientist
"I KNEW IT [for years] and now I have evidence!" is a the opposite of the scientific method.
I don’t think I’ve ever heard an actual scientist lower themselves to calling themselves a “scientist”. They either specify their field/credentials, or just speak their point lol.
Why did they take the globe out of classrooms
Thats clearly below the elbow and would have the Radius and ulna bones and not just a cartoon one big bone. Trust me im a cartoonist.