mires = plural of noun "mire" (stretch of swampy land) or conjugated form of verb "mire" (to be stuck in mud, or in some metaphorically difficult situation)
miser = person who hoards wealth and refuses to spend whenever possible
You can always increase the odds. First 2 guesses I always spam random letters blindly, last 2 letters in must be the first letter + a letter within the guess. Limits your flexibility early and ensures you can actually lose.
Like others said, Hard Mode is still hard to lose on, but at least it's possible. If you get bad luck early on and get stuck on the train tracks of doom, then, for once, you feel at least a bit of pressure, at least a bit of skill and luck needed.
Without hard mode, I had an unending streak of getting the word in 2, 3, or 4, and it had become so boring.
I don't see how it decreases the strategy involved, it just prevents you from doing the easiest strategy, which is trying words vith few common letters. It's hard mode because it's more limiting which makes it harder.
It can often make it impossible to garuntee a win because you got a decent or great first (and / or) second guess. For example if the word is bough, dough, tough, cough, laugh, gouge, (and quite a few others), and then you gues something like adieu, and then any of the above to check some extra consenants and a new position for o and u, youre stuck with 3 or 4 greens and no way to check what it might be.
Technically, this means you have to think ahead and completely avoid guesses like this, but there are a ton like it and you can only avoid so many sets that have 1 or 2 letter differences, so realisticallt you get more games where you get unlucky with a good first or second guess and it screws you.
I can't tell if you're trying to agree or disagree with me.
Yes, it can make it easier to fall into traps that technically prevent a win. That makes it technically harder. You might claim this isn't fair, but hard mode is optional. I agree that it's frustrating to be stuck in one of those, but I chose to do that.
Start with the word horse. Horse opener will never fail you. Next, use the name of a small creature. The critter followup will never fail you. You will guess the correct word on the third attempt.
I’m American and that shit pisses me off cuz I don’t care about professional sports enough to know that obscure shit either.
Buttttt I also know there’s times where I see something immediately because of a niche interest that others probably wouldn’t so I think that’s just part of the game.
Also it’s by the NEW YORK times, so kinda expected it would be US-centric, and can’t blame them for going with a NY team.
Connections is fun tho. A more fun way to play it is to purposefully try to guess the categories in order of hardest to easiest. I've only been able to pull that off like 4-5 times in 2 years of playing.
Yeah once you've beaten it a handful of times, the fun is how quickly you can solve it which requires gamble. Not whether you can just finish it, which you basically can 100% of the time if you throw out extra words.
After the initial guess, "round", there are only seven words in the English dictionary which it could be: bound, mound, pound, sound, wound, hound, or found. If you started guessing these in any order (as is shown in the left half of the snafu), odds are 2 out of 7 (29%) that you will get it within the first three guesses, which as you say is the goal. (This is because you get the opportunity to guess two more of these seven words, after your initial guess, before it would become "subpar".) Odds are also 2 out of 7 (29%) that you don't get the correct word at all, and lose your Wordle streak. (Because you only get the opportunity to guess 5 more out of the 7 words which it could be, before you lose the game.) Following the method on the right, guessing the word "bumps" eliminates 4 out of the 7 options, and so odds are 4 out of 7 (57%) that you will get it within the first three guesses (on the third try), because these are the odds of either B, M, P, or S turning yellow. The other 3 out of 7 times (43%) (which happens when none of the aforementioned four letters are yellow), you are guaranteed to get it on the fourth try, because no matter what, guessing "wharf" will reveal to you what the answer is, by process of elimination.
Left strategy:
29% chance of winning within 3 guesses
43% chance of subpar win
29% chance of losing (this possibility is shown in the snafu)
Right strategy:
57% chance of winning within 3 guesses
43% chance of subpar win (this possibility is shown in the snafu)
0% chance of losing
B-but I can win at step 2 only with left strat!
Best case scenerio of it is better!
Average case scenerio doesn't matter cuz... gamblers.. quit... something something...
I use a random starter every day. Doesn't matter how terrible it is, just the first 5 letter word that pops into my head that day is what I use. Nothing will top the dopamine spike I got when I one-tapped with "apron".
Long story short: the optimal word to use is arose.
Long story long: my family was having a discussion about what the best word to start with was, and differing tactics in how to beat wordle. I wrote a python script which looked through all 5 letter words, ranked all the letters in order of the frequency they appeared, and where each letter appeared. Then found the word with the highest score. You can then repeat this process with the remaining letters when some are eliminated. I can't remember if it was intelligent enough to try other words (words without confirmed letters in their set positions) just to find / eliminate more letters. Wish I kept it around honestly. I wrote it on my phone cuz I wanted to prove my point but never transferred it over
Coming up with a word that has as many possible letters for the word you're trying to guess is an interesting puzzle. Guessing is just guessing. Which is more fun?
What's everyone's favourite opener? I use RACES. The most common letters in English are, I think, RSTLNE (per Wheel of Fortune's final puzzle). This word uses 3x of those, plus another vowel, plus C, which is also quite common. I've found it to be a strong opener, and it hasn't been yhe WOTD yet, so I still have a chance at getting a 1. I also like KNELT. But it has been the WOTD so it'll never get me a 1.
In the first strat, it's possible to get the answer after the first guess. Second strat makes that impossible. You're just trading mean for standard deviation.
https://preview.redd.it/6ux0qm7pgy6g1.jpeg?width=1047&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cc8ebe06245ccf0d0d90d58ce19dc0522d80b4da
Legendary JUMBO PENIS opener
https://preview.redd.it/fnuq5b31qy6g1.jpeg?width=1217&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9a454e05a97a802107b59c1477eae7dc018c550c
LBJ Wordle strat??
Try burps “bunghole”
Big boss
legendary benis jumbo?
Holy shit
https://preview.redd.it/zwnu7judsy6g1.jpeg?width=1056&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d7d92e1ac2b2881ce5a956ca0a8dcfec808a0f4d
Wow, I tried it with the github version and it actually drew me a jumbo penis...
https://preview.redd.it/2el4phwk4z6g1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cc89c67157c307e6fffe87e2b17dbecca7f9a8cd
You didn’t follow the reddit post 💔💔💔
But that wouldn’t have made a penis silhouette
Why does it look like a jumbo penis if titled 90 degrees 😭
Edit; I didn’t see the comment they before the imagine, I am so fucking stupid.
helps it fit on the grid
average at least
Spoiler much
Not expecting Wordle spoilers in a Wordle-themed post is a rookie mistake
It was pretty early in the day. To be honest, though, I didn't realize it until my third guess anyway
Dude I just did the same exact thing lmao
He’s too much
Lmao I immediately tried this too, you got me beat tho:
https://i.imgur.com/Mlt6GQQ.jpeg
You may have a jumbo penis, but I am the
https://preview.redd.it/4lh6n80qcz6g1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5c88ce7a0aa8cf7d56adc35a9631f308bf1fcbbc
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Had this a few weeks ago. It has become a popular euphemism in my house
I love playing hard mode with only funny words and trying to build funny phrases.
https://preview.redd.it/njvnum09lz6g1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=a54de90c7ac8e6ac55843fc8e77e5558e458a8cc
"licks boner" would be better / avoid redundant e
But this is hard mode.
Wait this is actually a stellar opener
-four vowels
-four high-volume consonants
-s in the last spot
-two vowels in the second spot
Wow it works great on today’s!
I use aisle and then chomp.
That’s a good one. Today I did JUMBO PENIS and got it on the third…
holy shit it worked
https://preview.redd.it/17cwozvs5z6g1.jpeg?width=772&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=23bb55536334dedb1a928eb89a3195a10b4a3a89
This just in jumbo penis strat works
they rarely if ever do plural or conjugated versions of words, so "mires" was always a much less likely answer than "miser"
Im gonna be so honest i didnt know mires or miser were words and was hoping something would happen
mires = plural of noun "mire" (stretch of swampy land) or conjugated form of verb "mire" (to be stuck in mud, or in some metaphorically difficult situation)
miser = person who hoards wealth and refuses to spend whenever possible
I only know it because of Red Hot Chili Peppers
Holy shit it actually works
https://preview.redd.it/5r3wbnw57z6g1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=05972f66448240b7d2c28c89c15e030b2b670a49
Damn it even works in other languages
Works
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https://preview.redd.it/4zzvxlaacz6g1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fdd92d4ef2167cbdb03037004055c9e9500df83c
Works
https://preview.redd.it/g0awb824iz6g1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=cfc1139f4193f6f73c4b513f334f617d269fce55
No way!
https://preview.redd.it/uf3m9d7bmz6g1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=45e2827b370b765990a19974f4dda4d9fefb0ba7
I've never not opened with penis
https://preview.redd.it/mkovn0vccz6g1.png?width=372&format=png&auto=webp&s=db8197d155bc6a468174afda0e30b0d1bbbcba65
Well damn
https://preview.redd.it/le3i00mckz6g1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=487181e663e56d11bd8ee15c16c67dfe5ca88622
Bruh
Aight im stealing that opener
The best opener!
https://preview.redd.it/g8j5c6u9vz6g1.jpeg?width=1320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0e5401158f73d63690d7038dbc7a6f7afda20c92
Oddly enough, I got TULIP in one guess bc I like to use two words to open each Wordle
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nah u just ain't trying hard enough
Is it Horse?
It was, yeah
You might like the game horsle.
I can't find the original anymore oddly enough, a different one called Horsle that's really ass comes up now instead
https://preview.redd.it/39xryeqw9y6g1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4424b430c4029dd252f5744d8d1d63274f61c110
I'm way too employed to understand this
Equius Zahhak from Homestuck. Guy likes horses a lot, maybe a bit too much.
Surprised his name isn't mr hand
His online username is centaursTesticle if that's any consolation
Surprised he isn’t a Boeing engineer
get this man an umamusume
Doesn't that only have horse girls?
This is the guy who has a room full of wall sized portraits of naked muscular horse men in his mansion.
it’s quite the amusing mental image, wouldn’t you agree?
Why did Hussie do this ?
he based equius off of himself
._.
I thought he based Doc Scratch off himself.
Dont tell me...
I am jealous
NO
LMFAO
Oh my God I did not expect this
Dirty, dirty, Homestuck
hello, homestuck
https://preview.redd.it/8gy4qpvla07g1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=48b4935b607e20cc319a25cb55fb9d1cc8372513
https://preview.redd.it/grs84uioyy6g1.png?width=600&format=png&auto=webp&s=530a414074ca02f6ecd9f09da1c04e021c01863e
two sides of the same coin
Homestuck
Me when awesome lesbian couple:
https://preview.redd.it/w1h0kk46127g1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ba365627d178026fed13a3b42df32f26c904470d
this is why horse is my starter word
https://preview.redd.it/yngob2krm77g1.jpeg?width=1155&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e5d88fe34702c2a2cea6e7cff33e3f5b6fb0e69a
Hard mode is just a symptom of the gambling epidemic 😔
It's ridiculous it's called hard mode when it often decreases the strategy involved.
It's hard mode because it's damn near impossible to lose wordle without it.
Kinda difficult even with it
After some hundred games you know the letter distribution well enough to both avoid stalemates and weak plays
When you see that words like "HORSE" have too many one letter variations, you just avoid them
You can always increase the odds. First 2 guesses I always spam random letters blindly, last 2 letters in must be the first letter + a letter within the guess. Limits your flexibility early and ensures you can actually lose.
You underestimate how dogass I am at wordle
Yeah this.
Like others said, Hard Mode is still hard to lose on, but at least it's possible. If you get bad luck early on and get stuck on the train tracks of doom, then, for once, you feel at least a bit of pressure, at least a bit of skill and luck needed.
Without hard mode, I had an unending streak of getting the word in 2, 3, or 4, and it had become so boring.
I don't see how it decreases the strategy involved, it just prevents you from doing the easiest strategy, which is trying words vith few common letters. It's hard mode because it's more limiting which makes it harder.
It can often make it impossible to garuntee a win because you got a decent or great first (and / or) second guess. For example if the word is bough, dough, tough, cough, laugh, gouge, (and quite a few others), and then you gues something like adieu, and then any of the above to check some extra consenants and a new position for o and u, youre stuck with 3 or 4 greens and no way to check what it might be.
Technically, this means you have to think ahead and completely avoid guesses like this, but there are a ton like it and you can only avoid so many sets that have 1 or 2 letter differences, so realisticallt you get more games where you get unlucky with a good first or second guess and it screws you.
I can't tell if you're trying to agree or disagree with me. Yes, it can make it easier to fall into traps that technically prevent a win. That makes it technically harder. You might claim this isn't fair, but hard mode is optional. I agree that it's frustrating to be stuck in one of those, but I chose to do that.
It’s hard mode in the sense that it is harder to win. *trying to not disclose any more information* it is harder to win, yes.”
I made a snafu on this already
That's coincidental! I made this snafu in response to this post.
I have never beaten a Wordle in my life. Tried it once or twice and it was literally just this:
https://i.redd.it/iwxb8ej05y6g1.gif
Bro I just woke up from one of those accidental naps and my mind for some reason thought this was a chicken
Like, this was what the outline looked like at first
https://preview.redd.it/qb0rfrgr7y6g1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=07f99f083a2994e2e0118fe092a82e4f4c04929e
I love your brain
A zombie trying to flirt.
r/recontext
I also choose this guy's brain
How did you see a chicken? that looks more like a crow.
A crow's just a goth chicken
u need to go to that subreddit where u upload photo of what u thought what it was at first until u realized it's a different picture
Same, a crow with a hand as a beak
They need to bring you in for testing
hahahahha I thought it was a crow
Crow not a chicken for me but yeah. Definitely a bird not a monkey, my brain wouldn't lie to me after all.
Start with the word horse. Horse opener will never fail you. Next, use the name of a small creature. The critter followup will never fail you. You will guess the correct word on the third attempt.
I use steam as my starting word.
adieu is my opener.
Audio is my starting word. Same reason as I imagine you have, get the vowels straight away.
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The goon folder?
You don't want me to answer that.
it's a matter of practice. i got gradually better as i kept doing them back when i used to do the daily. pretty fun game
You should try dont wordle
It honestly changed my perspective on how wordle should be played.
Wordle is doable for me. Connections on the other hand........
Connections is heavily US-sided
Shit like "MLB teams" "NBA mascots" "Starting lyrics from [American singer not well known abroad]"
Today's was especially shitty tbh for both yellow and purple
Today's blue was fucking insane (NY Mets legends lmao. The fuck is my godless euro commie ass supposed to do with that?!)
I’m American and that shit pisses me off cuz I don’t care about professional sports enough to know that obscure shit either.
Buttttt I also know there’s times where I see something immediately because of a niche interest that others probably wouldn’t so I think that’s just part of the game.
Also it’s by the NEW YORK times, so kinda expected it would be US-centric, and can’t blame them for going with a NY team.
Connections is fun tho. A more fun way to play it is to purposefully try to guess the categories in order of hardest to easiest. I've only been able to pull that off like 4-5 times in 2 years of playing.
Congrats, you're retarded
I figured it out long ago.
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There is no hard mode in Coaxle
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Yeah but then you can't get it in 2 smh
Always gamble
Yeah once you've beaten it a handful of times, the fun is how quickly you can solve it which requires gamble. Not whether you can just finish it, which you basically can 100% of the time if you throw out extra words.
I prefer watching my big number go bigger.
Coaxed into playing the game like a little bitch
https://preview.redd.it/8uhpevwfgy6g1.jpeg?width=1098&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a7b55e68dfcef22404fef9f1db14a351ef90ad8d
"In wordle, you can not use basic strategy. You have to rely on luck or else it is dishonor on three generations of your family"
There's still strategy in hard mode though, just don't use words that has a lot of valid rhymes
I have not seen this lady since 2022. Where the hell did she go?
People realized she was just lying
sure if i eliminate answers i can guarantee i get it in no more than four, but i also guarantee i can't get it in two.
https://preview.redd.it/gddszo7wz07g1.png?width=719&format=png&auto=webp&s=61e16982684f7c8ec4504324b5c23582083f8282
if you used summons you didn’t really beat the wordle…
People who play wordle on hard mode don't fucking love themselves
What the fuck is hard mode? Did they make an easier mode so people call normal wordle hard, or did they actually make it hard somehow?
On hard mode, you have to play greens where they belong and yellows have to be used somewhere in the next word you guess.
Oh that’s wild, and indeed harder.
Also, thanks for a straight answer even though I asked a question with swears
I felt a little strange replying straightforward to your comment. I should of fucking swore, too, dammit.
People who play wordle on not-hard mode don't
if the word was BOUND left wouldve been faster. keep gambling
>Turn off Hard Mode to make game easier
>Say those who do not play in Easy Mode are suffering from skill issue when the game is hard
But now you only got wordle in 4 which is subpar. The goal is to get it in 3 or less
a true wordle player only needs a single guess
After the initial guess, "round", there are only seven words in the English dictionary which it could be: bound, mound, pound, sound, wound, hound, or found. If you started guessing these in any order (as is shown in the left half of the snafu), odds are 2 out of 7 (29%) that you will get it within the first three guesses, which as you say is the goal. (This is because you get the opportunity to guess two more of these seven words, after your initial guess, before it would become "subpar".) Odds are also 2 out of 7 (29%) that you don't get the correct word at all, and lose your Wordle streak. (Because you only get the opportunity to guess 5 more out of the 7 words which it could be, before you lose the game.) Following the method on the right, guessing the word "bumps" eliminates 4 out of the 7 options, and so odds are 4 out of 7 (57%) that you will get it within the first three guesses (on the third try), because these are the odds of either B, M, P, or S turning yellow. The other 3 out of 7 times (43%) (which happens when none of the aforementioned four letters are yellow), you are guaranteed to get it on the fourth try, because no matter what, guessing "wharf" will reveal to you what the answer is, by process of elimination.
Left strategy:
29% chance of winning within 3 guesses
43% chance of subpar win
29% chance of losing (this possibility is shown in the snafu)
Right strategy:
57% chance of winning within 3 guesses
43% chance of subpar win (this possibility is shown in the snafu)
0% chance of losing
wordle cant be this serious man
Insurance won't cover ADHD meds
fair enough
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golden response
People have made an "optimal" guess calculator
Exactly - that's why I have 24 "2 guesses" wins.
Anything other than Wordle in 2 feels like failure now.
B-but I can win at step 2 only with left strat!
Best case scenerio of it is better!
Average case scenerio doesn't matter cuz... gamblers.. quit... something something...
I should've won step-1 but i changed my starter that day, i need help
I use a random starter every day. Doesn't matter how terrible it is, just the first 5 letter word that pops into my head that day is what I use. Nothing will top the dopamine spike I got when I one-tapped with "apron".
Aw man what do you mean it wasn't adieu, pzzaz, xylyl, nudzh or xviii this game sucks
NERD
https://i.redd.it/csjcev15fy6g1.gif
WE GET THE WORDLE BY GUESSING EVERY LETTER INDIVIDUALLY OR WE DON'T GET IT AT ALL
I’m addicted to playing ADIEU as my first move every time, it feels like a cheat code to cram all the vowels into the first turn
audio is a good alternative too
HOW DID I NOT THINK OF THAT I WORK IN AUDIO 🤯
Wow you're lucky. I work in a HOUSE
I play AUREI as my first guess. Similar to yours but with an R instead of a D which is a more frequent letter
All 4-vowel words are bad. All of them.
But at least you're using one of the 3 best of these bad words. Upvote for that 🔺️
(There's like 30 4-vowel words. The 3 best are, in no particular order, AUREI URAEI NAIEO)
Edit: fixed the 2nd AUREI to URAEI
Long story short: the optimal word to use is arose.
Long story long: my family was having a discussion about what the best word to start with was, and differing tactics in how to beat wordle. I wrote a python script which looked through all 5 letter words, ranked all the letters in order of the frequency they appeared, and where each letter appeared. Then found the word with the highest score. You can then repeat this process with the remaining letters when some are eliminated. I can't remember if it was intelligent enough to try other words (words without confirmed letters in their set positions) just to find / eliminate more letters. Wish I kept it around honestly. I wrote it on my phone cuz I wanted to prove my point but never transferred it over
Coaxed into not if wordle hard mode is on
hard mode is definitely harder but you dont have to think as much
I would argue, because it's usually harder to come up with the next word
And then the game is a solved problem and there’s no fun at all
Something something about gamers optimizing the fun out of the game
Coming up with a word that has as many possible letters for the word you're trying to guess is an interesting puzzle. Guessing is just guessing. Which is more fun?
as if i have every five letter word in english memorized. there’s still thinking involved even if the strategy part is mostly done
https://preview.redd.it/e5zwbrljny6g1.jpeg?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e685d79d6c7fa6298106f47ce01be53b29de749a
Yeah but more green across all guesses = better. No? That's how you win the game right? /s
I have played Wordle once, got it right immediately, and have never touched it again
Assuming you got 4 right in the first 2 tries
i love it when its some word ive never heard before
i prefer gambling
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anyone do a CRANE WILTS DOUGH opening?
Coaxed into there's a wordle hardmode that everyone forgets about in this discussion
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Just realized i'm too stupid for wordle
I race With my friend to see Who can get the Word in less guesses, if i can get the Word in 2 guesses, i Will try it
I for one play on hard mode (without actually enabling it because I'm lazy)
Is this a parody subreddit or a logic subreddit?
Ok but how is this less cringe than just using the list of five words that covered 25 letters to just guarantee every win.
Wordle is sorta like bowling in that it's only fun when you're bad at it.
Reddit needs more stuff like this. A skill or random bit of information that might come in handy one day.
Isn't this just information?
The swift brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.
You either gamble to get the lowest amount of guess try possible, or play it safe and get average results
Coaxed into the fucking fallout terminal game
That is my strategy, almost no matter what I guess Bling, Farts, and Chode as there is no overlap
What's everyone's favourite opener? I use RACES. The most common letters in English are, I think, RSTLNE (per Wheel of Fortune's final puzzle). This word uses 3x of those, plus another vowel, plus C, which is also quite common. I've found it to be a strong opener, and it hasn't been yhe WOTD yet, so I still have a chance at getting a 1. I also like KNELT. But it has been the WOTD so it'll never get me a 1.
i open almost every game with
F A R T S
G N O M E
C H I L D
in that order
Slate mourn my beloved opening
Power
Slink
Yacht
Dumbs
19 letters gone, 2 tries available.
Yeah but if I just guess I could get it and brag to my friends that it was in 2
round bumps huh...
https://preview.redd.it/1hor521y607g1.png?width=706&format=png&auto=webp&s=0b18da8910132c03fb0b741106db68ae7751ed38
All praise the bewup, the one who swims
In the first strat, it's possible to get the answer after the first guess. Second strat makes that impossible. You're just trading mean for standard deviation.