I had some heavy shopping to unload so I parked near the door to my building. I was aware that I was blocking a car (not a designated space, they were also parked illegally) but I see builders and delivery trucks parked there temporarily all the time so I thought it would be fine for 5 minutes while I unload the shopping.
Anyway, as soon as I get to my apartment my phone rings and it's the guards asking me to move. So I come down straight away and apologize to the woman who I was blocking. However, instead of that being the end of it, she starts shouting about foreigners and threatening me with her guanxi. She also poured her tea with lemons over my windscreen. So I got a pack of tissues and asked her to clean the windscreen. At this point she completely loses it, shouting and screaming and runs away. Comes back in another car and then blocks me!
In the end her sugar daddy comes and calms her down and reluctantly pretends to clean my windscreen before moving her second car so we could all get on with our days.
I know I was in the wrong to park there but holy **** her reaction was just so petty. What would you do in this situation? Am I right for standing my ground and not cleaning her mess? And should I be worried about her threats?
Eh. Unfortunately we do have our share of Karens here.
Do they have a special name?
People who rage like that don't have power in their lives, and so they go off on foreigners because they can.
Nothing to do with you. The only thing you should do is pity them, because they're miserable.
>People who rage like that don't have power in their lives
Yeah, I've seen gate guards abuse delivery workers, because that's who the guards have the most leverage over.
Same. Saw one of our gate guards giving some poor workman dude a totally unnecessary hard time.
Please. She's a nutcase.
People block other people in all the time. All. The. Time. There's even a hotline number you can call which will contact the driver and tell them to move their car. That's how common it is.
Her reaction was unwarranted and overdramatic by an exponential amount.
I got pissy with a guy who was blocking me in one time because he took his sweet time coming downstairs and then made his annoyance at being bothered clear by stopping to light a cigarette and take a few drags in the parking lot a few steps from his car. He got both barrels from me & then got angry himself (the clown). Mr Cool was not so cool when the laowai was yelling at him in the community parking lot in earshot of a significant number of residents.
Other times I may have an annoyed look on my face, but if they move quickly that's that. It's life in China. I had someone apologize profusely once (also unusual) and so I said, "Don't worry about it - it happens."
Unless you got a really crazy one, her antics were performative & that's the last you'll hear of it. If she IS crazy, she'd have done something further anyway regardless of your response. I would not let it worry you much. In the end, there will be security footage from 62 different angles if she tries something in the future, so let her.... but she won't.
Honestly I wanted to laugh but I thought that might send her over the edge. The guard even told me "you're lucky she didn't try to break the windscreen with her bottle"
She wouldn't. It's a slam dunk she'd have to pay for it.
I wouldnt even have given her my time of day. No need to say anything.
Have you noticed that people's cars have a special holder on their dash to hold a placard with their phone number? The first time I saw that I asked someone what it was and they told me that it was there so when they parked blocking someone in the blocked person could call them (in a store or supermarket) to come move? I had never seen anything like that before.
Yeah, it's crazy. In the US, you'd be afraid (especially as a woman) that some weirdo would take your number and start stalking you. In China it is considered totally normal.
You did great š and no donāt be afraid of her threats because this is china šØš³.
Karens are everywhere.
Make sure you have a camera recording your car. She lost face and she knows what your car looks like so there's a chance she retaliates.
I had a neighbour who poured paint on another neighbour's car, in retaliation for... publicly asking her not to let her children shit in the garage. There was video showing she was only person who passed the car during the time the paint incident could have happened but none of her directly doing it so the police said nothing could be done.
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What a strange comment. You can believe what you want. The situation was resolved but it didn't need to escalate in the first place. Property management were well aware and informed me that they captured everything on CCTV should I wish to raise a complaint, which I do not because I'm not that petty.
Worried about her threats. No. Unless she's psychotic, then maybe, lol.
I probably would have lost it when she poured, even if I was in the wrong, but I'm a bit insane. But I've been in her shoes, and i lose it on others when they do this, so?!??!
Youāre still an asshole. You knew you blocked someone in. 5min is actually a very long time. She is also a Karen
She could hold a grudge and make your life difficult. As a foreigner, I would never do something to inconvenience the locals no matter what country I am in. Even I have to walk far or do many trips I would never choose to put myself in this situation. But yes her reaction sounds like a child having a tantrum.
Yes I regret parking there and won't do so again. Hopefully the guards didn't tell her my apartment number
Chinese women and immature behavior, name a more iconic duo
No need to worry about the threats but thatās exactly what risk you take when you take the short cut. If you donāt have the stomach for a vindictive petty neighbor coming after you, play by the rules. You are not from here. You are not equipped with what it needs to differentiate real threat from void ones or other subtle things.
I get your point but foreigners are not perfect. We all make mistakes. In this situation, should I have kowtowed to her craziness and let her think it's acceptable to vandalize others property over something so trivial?
No of course you shouldnāt, that woman was crazy. Iām just saying maybe itās wise to err on the caution side. Being an expat is hard.
Right. Parking like the locals is not something I'll do again that's for sure
Backup of the post's body: I had some heavy shopping to unload so I parked near the door to my building. I was aware that I was blocking a car (not a designated space, they were also parked illegally) but I see builders and delivery trucks parked there temporarily all the time so I thought it would be fine for 5 minutes while I unload the shopping.
Anyway, as soon as I get to my apartment my phone rings and it's the guards asking me to move. So I come down straight away and apologize to the woman who I was blocking. However, instead of that being the end of it, she starts shouting about foreigners and threatening me with her guanxi. She also poured her tea with lemons over my windscreen. So I got a pack of tissues and asked her to clean the windscreen. At this point she completely loses it, shouting and screaming and runs away. Comes back in another car and then blocks me!
In the end her sugar daddy comes and calms her down and reluctantly pretends to clean my windscreen before moving her second car so we could all get on with our days.
I know I was in the wrong to park there but holy **** her reaction was just so petty. What would you do in this situation? Am I right for standing my ground and not cleaning her mess? And should I be worried about her threats?
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Gonna be awkward next time you see her
Iāll invite her for tea š
I probably would have just moved my car immediately. Sure a lot of people in China do it, but there are double standards and if you act the way some locals do you are going to get called out on it. People might think you're a bit of a douche, but she came out of this looking worse. I wouldn't worry about the threats unless you're doing something illegal.
Sometimes I worry about humanity. I know these troubled people are only a small portion, but it's disheartening.
fight fire with fire, just act more ridiculous next time.
its like seeing a bear in the wild, you just have to make yourself really big and make loud grunting noises.
run-of-the-mill chinese chavettes don't take too well to apologies;Ā you think you're being polite and/or diffusing the situation, but that's their signal to go for the throat.Ā lesson learned.
Itās crazy, if you were just another Chinese guy, it wouldnāt have been an issue at all
Hard to say. I see Chinese people argue over traffic situations, all the time.. That woman was just looking for an excuse to blow her fuse, and foreigners are often seen as easy pickings.
Very true, seems yelling at strangers in general here is pretty common practice.