The card does not show what route you went to get the card. The only thing they care about for renewal is that you meet the residency requirements. I got my PR via the spousal route and when I went to renew to get the new 5 star card I wasn't required to show any proof that I was still married.
And the card does specifically say permanent residence card. Here's the back of my card:
oh boy. this is one of my pet peeves about modern china. especially post-covid, many popular travel locations in china now require that you book a slot (for one person) in advance, even if the site is entry ticket free (supposedly this keeps the numbers inside a building or location "low" (it's not low)). Usually this is done within Wechat (or maybe meituan, douyin, alipay, or w/e they want you to use). I have been to multiple locations where they just don't provide a passport option on the app (I swear it's high, like 50% of them don't provide this option), which usually requires manual service at a window where I usually get help. But yeah it's very frustrating looking through all the apps to find out that I can't fill out any of the forms (cuz the app doesn't have a passport option), and then needing either my girlfriend to figure something out (with a phone call to customer service who also don't know how to handle passports) or waiting in line at a window to get permission to visit a place that is free and 7 years ago didn't require this hassle. oof. triggers me.
More than once I've tried to register a spot at a location online just to see that I couldn't register with a passport, went to the nearest guard or clerk to tell him about my predicament and then being just directly let in lol
As long as I have been able to get to a window/ticket gate and there are still spots available for that day, I've always been helped (although I might not be able to take advantage of a meituan deal).
However, traveling during busy holidays (like qingmingjie) often requires you book a slot in advance (otherwise they will all be taken). and for those, I've just be out of luck. sorry foreigner, no slots available day of and you can't book in advance because our app doesn't have a passport option.
This is why I (expat, and foreign permanent resident of China) left China. Even with the 5SC the situation is still broken on many use cases. Either accept this broken life or move to another country
Abu Dhabi, UAE. Constrictive criticism, but I think China could learn a lot from UAE Pass and how UAE has issued an emirates ID to all residents regardless of citizenship.
What app is this? You can try emailing sometimes for someone to override it and manually do the KYC, but to be honest China should just work out a non-permanent resident card so apps don’t have to do this.
Passport stickers? I’ve never seen a country that has ID cards do this for residents. Especially when they have ID cards for permanent residents
Probably because employers just illegally kept it anyways.
China should be adding all of this information into a central identity card and making that the primary form of ID for resident foreigners in China (as opposed to passport).
We’d end up with all the benefits and the employers could suck my balls
Correct. Unable to register.
Pretty much yeah, sometimes you can email for someone to check but 95% of the time you'll get ignored
Right, if there's no option for foreign passport, you are unable to use the app
Unless you have permanent residence, that is - that's the second last option.
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Chinese permanent residence is as permanent as permanent residence in other countries.
You renew it every ten years, and as long as you meet the residence requirements (3 months per year minimum) there will be no renewal issues.
Other countries also require you to renew your permanent residence periodically. My father is a permanent residence of Canada and he has to do so.
I have seen people on here saying that their permanent residency card doesn't work properly like a national ID does though, for stuff like apps
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The card does not show what route you went to get the card. The only thing they care about for renewal is that you meet the residency requirements. I got my PR via the spousal route and when I went to renew to get the new 5 star card I wasn't required to show any proof that I was still married.
And the card does specifically say permanent residence card. Here's the back of my card:
https://preview.redd.it/sh8lcg8sh8cg1.png?width=732&format=png&auto=webp&s=68ae4d15dd9d630283052f19b7cce98d47de5f2b
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Nope, I'm a white Canadian.
oh boy. this is one of my pet peeves about modern china. especially post-covid, many popular travel locations in china now require that you book a slot (for one person) in advance, even if the site is entry ticket free (supposedly this keeps the numbers inside a building or location "low" (it's not low)). Usually this is done within Wechat (or maybe meituan, douyin, alipay, or w/e they want you to use). I have been to multiple locations where they just don't provide a passport option on the app (I swear it's high, like 50% of them don't provide this option), which usually requires manual service at a window where I usually get help. But yeah it's very frustrating looking through all the apps to find out that I can't fill out any of the forms (cuz the app doesn't have a passport option), and then needing either my girlfriend to figure something out (with a phone call to customer service who also don't know how to handle passports) or waiting in line at a window to get permission to visit a place that is free and 7 years ago didn't require this hassle. oof. triggers me.
More than once I've tried to register a spot at a location online just to see that I couldn't register with a passport, went to the nearest guard or clerk to tell him about my predicament and then being just directly let in lol
yep, i've had this happen too.
As long as I have been able to get to a window/ticket gate and there are still spots available for that day, I've always been helped (although I might not be able to take advantage of a meituan deal).
However, traveling during busy holidays (like qingmingjie) often requires you book a slot in advance (otherwise they will all be taken). and for those, I've just be out of luck. sorry foreigner, no slots available day of and you can't book in advance because our app doesn't have a passport option.
like i said, it really grinds my gears.
this is already a very charitable app lol. many apps (literally taobao included) don't even allow taiwan/macau/hk travel IDs
You suck it up.
I have the same problem with my car app, planning to go the 12345 route but still lazy to do.
This is why I (expat, and foreign permanent resident of China) left China. Even with the 5SC the situation is still broken on many use cases. Either accept this broken life or move to another country
where did you move for a better life?
Abu Dhabi, UAE. Constrictive criticism, but I think China could learn a lot from UAE Pass and how UAE has issued an emirates ID to all residents regardless of citizenship.
What app is this? You can try emailing sometimes for someone to override it and manually do the KYC, but to be honest China should just work out a non-permanent resident card so apps don’t have to do this.
Passport stickers? I’ve never seen a country that has ID cards do this for residents. Especially when they have ID cards for permanent residents
Is a digital Id apps for people who live in China live Permit Residency
Rumour was that the Work Permit Card was supposed to fulfil this function, but they chickened out, and we got a useless piece of plastic instead.
The work permit is a physical card now?
It was for a few years, I think they eventually scrapped it and made everything digital a couple of years ago
Probably because employers just illegally kept it anyways.
China should be adding all of this information into a central identity card and making that the primary form of ID for resident foreigners in China (as opposed to passport).
We’d end up with all the benefits and the employers could suck my balls
It was still a physical card when I began working in China last year (late August 2024 to be precise). I assume it still is today.
Taiwanese Hong Kong Macao Tourist Visit China Mainland they can use this app
depend on what apps
I recognize that app, why are you trying to issue a digital ID lmao
Guys, this is for watching and tracking peoples. not for reserve a place. if you are a foreign, it can force you to make a record in person.
You accept that you are a second class person and give up.
Backup of the post's body: What do you do when an app asks for verification like this? Not allowed to use the app?
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if this is a government app just call 12345