I watched a bit of Danya's final stream after watching this video. I'm not easily affected by things but that honestly disturbed me to see him in that state. I only really know him from the happy self I've seen in his YouTube videos.
I went back and watched tried to watch a video of his from 2 years ago, and I couldn’t get through more than a few minutes. It didn’t help that he started off by talking about how he’d made a joke on stream about Kramnik and that of course he didn’t actually think badly of him.
Actually kind of made me wonder if that one joke is what caused him to be a target.
I'm a psychologist who trained in a few acute environments and man... that stream was tough to watch as well. Tough enough where I opened my phone that morning to see "Daniel Naroditsky has passed away" I was deeply hurt but not surprised.
I feel so bad for Mr. Naroditsky, he genuinely was a socially struggling genius. I got to interact with him on stream and he was so good natured and understanding. RIP, he’s sorely missed by me.
You’re partially right. If you watch his last stream you’ll see that the Kramnik situation and the communities response was a factor. It was an existential threat to his career and survival, movers in the chess space took Kramnik’s accusations seriously. The community could have been more supportive. At the same time he wouldn’t talk about it due to his sense of honor and fairness. So this was eating him up for months and he couldn’t talk to anyone about it because he didn’t want to hear the community say, “ignore it” “stop crying” “stop asking for sympathy”. He also wanted Hans Nieman to speak in his defense.
I watched this with my dinner last night and meant to link it when I saw no one else had. Really great lecture. I couldn't bring myself to listen to the viewer section, but the games were great.
Magnus said that he'd play Danya a lot, and when he played Danya, would play weird, and have worse positions, and he'd lose, unless he mated Magnus. He basically said Danya was very creative and could pull winning attacks out of very unexpected places. Watching this lecture by Ben, I kind of understand what Magnus was saying more. Danya had some weird positions, and finds some wild ass attacks.
Also, Ben Blunders at something like 32:40 or 34:20. He allows black to play a dangerous looking knight fork, and then gets out of it by hanging Danya's queen. The knight fork was bad, because bishop check is still super winning(forced mate IIRC), but Ben playing bishop takes bishop was a losing move.
Good catch, for the curious, below is the starting position Derek is talking about. White to move , and the hypothetical try shown in the video is Ne6. As Derek mentioned, the defense for black is to play Be4+ and not BxB, which would drop the queen. Ben was moving at a pretty good clip to cover a lot of games so no biggie.
Good thing mods have created a megadead to stop everyone holding people accountable for this horrible situation /s. Mods should be ashamed by their behavior.
I watched a bit of Danya's final stream after watching this video. I'm not easily affected by things but that honestly disturbed me to see him in that state. I only really know him from the happy self I've seen in his YouTube videos.
I thought the same thing, quite sad this whole thing.
One of the most disturbing things I’ve ever seen. Made me literally sick to my stomach.
I’ll make sure to never watch it then :/
Great idea. It’s what makes his death hurt even more.
I went back and watched tried to watch a video of his from 2 years ago, and I couldn’t get through more than a few minutes. It didn’t help that he started off by talking about how he’d made a joke on stream about Kramnik and that of course he didn’t actually think badly of him.
Actually kind of made me wonder if that one joke is what caused him to be a target.
Fuck Kramnik man
I'm a psychologist who trained in a few acute environments and man... that stream was tough to watch as well. Tough enough where I opened my phone that morning to see "Daniel Naroditsky has passed away" I was deeply hurt but not surprised.
Fuck Vladimir Kramnik.
I feel so bad for Mr. Naroditsky, he genuinely was a socially struggling genius. I got to interact with him on stream and he was so good natured and understanding. RIP, he’s sorely missed by me.
And so many others. Truly a gem of a man.
Can you tell us about your interaction with him on stream ?.
Streaming and interacting with chat was the problem, it became an echo chamber and measurmement for his image and self worth
He had life and much love from friends and his partner, so I disagree.
You’re partially right. If you watch his last stream you’ll see that the Kramnik situation and the communities response was a factor. It was an existential threat to his career and survival, movers in the chess space took Kramnik’s accusations seriously. The community could have been more supportive. At the same time he wouldn’t talk about it due to his sense of honor and fairness. So this was eating him up for months and he couldn’t talk to anyone about it because he didn’t want to hear the community say, “ignore it” “stop crying” “stop asking for sympathy”. He also wanted Hans Nieman to speak in his defense.
Chat would always trigger his psychological weak spots, not just during last stream, but plenty times before that too
I watched this with my dinner last night and meant to link it when I saw no one else had. Really great lecture. I couldn't bring myself to listen to the viewer section, but the games were great.
Magnus said that he'd play Danya a lot, and when he played Danya, would play weird, and have worse positions, and he'd lose, unless he mated Magnus. He basically said Danya was very creative and could pull winning attacks out of very unexpected places. Watching this lecture by Ben, I kind of understand what Magnus was saying more. Danya had some weird positions, and finds some wild ass attacks.
Also, Ben Blunders at something like 32:40 or 34:20. He allows black to play a dangerous looking knight fork, and then gets out of it by hanging Danya's queen. The knight fork was bad, because bishop check is still super winning(forced mate IIRC), but Ben playing bishop takes bishop was a losing move.
Good catch, for the curious, below is the starting position Derek is talking about. White to move , and the hypothetical try shown in the video is Ne6. As Derek mentioned, the defense for black is to play Be4+ and not BxB, which would drop the queen. Ben was moving at a pretty good clip to cover a lot of games so no biggie.
Pretty fun and interesting position.
https://lichess.org/analysis/5rk1/ppp3b1/3p3p/3P1bN1/2Pq4/1P1B2PP/P2Q4/2R4K_w_-_-_0_1?color=black#0
Rest in Peace Danya
Fen Binegold was pretty funny to me.
It's apparently the name of one of his channel mods
Man, always feels a little weird to realize he died younger than I am.
fuck kramnik
Any action against Kramnik?
Good thing mods have created a megadead to stop everyone holding people accountable for this horrible situation /s. Mods should be ashamed by their behavior.
Yeah if the megathread isn't going to stay pinned the mods might as well let us have at it as far as making posts about that tragedy.
Do you see this?
https://imgur.com/a/0V5K6DQ
https://imgur.com/a/BTXKsZ3
Not the same for everyone.
What do you use?
Nope. Megathread should be right at the top regardless of what I use.
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Shame on you.
Did you watch even the first 10 seconds? He literally makes jokes throughout the entire video.
Like what..?
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I’m not a regular viewer of Ben, but I believe Fen Binegold is just the username of one of his most active viewers/mods. Not a joke by Ben.
This is correct