I wonder what part of browsing the web requires AI, agentic or not. If I have a question that required AI I open the AI website of choice and ask the question.
At the absolute fucking most build a fucking sidebar that opens up another website which the user can configure. Similar to how bookmarks work.
Then the user can choose which AI (if any) to use.
Also, the same sidebar can be used to for other purposes. Maybe the user wants to monitor their mail/social media. Perhaps have a news feed running in it. Once again, user configurable.
Your skepticism is valid because you are viewing AI as a "Knowledge Engine" (ChatGPT). If you just want an answer, yes, go to the website. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
But "Agentic AI" in a browser isn't about "answering questions".
For example it can be used for navigating "dark patterns" and ui bloat.
The modern web is hostile. Cookie banners, 15-step cancellation flows, overlapping pop-ups.
The Browser Agent Advantage: Agentic AI can visually interpret the page layout.
The Use Case: "Cancel my Planet Fitness membership."
The Agent Action: The AI knows that the "Cancel" button is greyed out and hidden behind three "Are you sure?" modals. It clicks through them for you.
Brave's Specific Angle: Brave already blocks ads. An agentic AI goes a step further by auto-rejecting cookie consents or auto-closing newsletter popups by simulating user clicks, not just blocking network requests.
Ok now what about "mUh pRivACy!?".
If you use ChatGPT, you send your data to OpenAI's servers.
Brave (and others) are pushing for SLMs (Small Language Models) that run directly on your CPU/NPU (Neural Processing Unit).
The data never leaves your machine. The "brain" is inside the browser application, processing the text in your local RAM.
Lots of people seem to love to hate. Sure, any old foss browser can be more "private" and "secure" with some tinkering, but Brave does very well. Also, no one seems to have read anything about how this actually works. It will use isolated data storage and uses a separate browser profile with no access to your normal browsing or local data (unless you put it in there, of course). It's also entirely opt-in. Am I happy they're putting it in there? No. But I'm also not surprised and won't really be worried about it (until/unless I need to be, and that point I promise Firefox won't be far behind).
Post that one their subreddit, you will get cancelled so dann hard its sad.
i absolutely hate using Brave on Desktop, ITS Interface Just seems so inconsistent on there.
But I use it on android as its pretty much the only usable Browser on there with adblock.
It looks like Firefox with the rounded tabs and like Chrome with the rounded top corners on the bar beneath. And the tab accentuation colors with a dark theme are horrendous.
And i dont know If its in tablet mode in my surface or Something but the address field and every thing is bigger than the top bar that holds it and Menus Open weirdly and Buttons are Not aligned properly in settings for example
Its just totally weird (Just Like my german autocorrect when typing English)
IF you are a iphone user you can use ad guard and turn it on in safari as an extension believe it or not. I just found this out a few months ago and honestly couldn't believe I'd never seen anyone talk about it.
You know there's already AI in the browser, right? Like, Leo AI has been there since quite a while now. That didn't stop Brave from being "secure and private", maybe back up your claims?
"Brave's agentic AI works in an isolated profile. This uses a separate storage to ensure cookies, caches, logins, etc., from your regular browsing data are protected. When you enable the agentic AI feature, the browser creates a separate profile that is exclusively used for the AI agent."
On the privacy side it helps, but not 100%. On the security side, it does absolutely nothing to protect the many security issues with the current state of agentic browsing, which also could lead to breaching the main profile. But it is in testing, so I won't blast them for it yet. But it is a dangerous move for them.
Chrome will be getting AI agents with another AI agent monitoring it. Google announced it a while ago. Disco is something else, different purpose right now. Probably will get blended.
Fun fact, while millennials and gen z are extremely tech literate, everyone after them have grown worse and worse with tech due to companies oversimplifying and locking everything down.
With that in mind, what do you guys expect to happen when people grow up with the ability to say "buy me the best food for cheap" instead of doing any critical thinking in the slightest?
Well, at least they admit it's very dangerous and a restrictive approach to security is needed. However, I fail to see the need for creating this problem to solve it to begin with. The practical benefits of "agentic ai browsing" is debatable.
I was sooooo fascinated by AI when I discovered DALL-E and when ChatGPT came out and even before that with GPT-2 (I think?) on OpenAI Playground, but I never expected it to go as far as it did…
I believe they released multiple posts on Twitter about Comet Browser AI issues. However, a few months later, they released their own version. I guess I’ll be switching to Helium.
I wonder what part of browsing the web requires AI, agentic or not. If I have a question that required AI I open the AI website of choice and ask the question.
I wonder myself. Fuck AI because I don't want it or asked for it.
I've disabled all the crypto and AI crap in settings and in Brave://flags.
At the absolute fucking most build a fucking sidebar that opens up another website which the user can configure. Similar to how bookmarks work.
Then the user can choose which AI (if any) to use.
Also, the same sidebar can be used to for other purposes. Maybe the user wants to monitor their mail/social media. Perhaps have a news feed running in it. Once again, user configurable.
Fuck off with fucking AI everywhere.
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Your skepticism is valid because you are viewing AI as a "Knowledge Engine" (ChatGPT). If you just want an answer, yes, go to the website. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
But "Agentic AI" in a browser isn't about "answering questions".
For example it can be used for navigating "dark patterns" and ui bloat.
The modern web is hostile. Cookie banners, 15-step cancellation flows, overlapping pop-ups.
The Browser Agent Advantage: Agentic AI can visually interpret the page layout.
Ok now what about "mUh pRivACy!?".
If you use ChatGPT, you send your data to OpenAI's servers.
Brave (and others) are pushing for SLMs (Small Language Models) that run directly on your CPU/NPU (Neural Processing Unit).
The data never leaves your machine. The "brain" is inside the browser application, processing the text in your local RAM.
so brave will always claim that it is the most secure and private?
..are they?
All we know is that they claim to be!
Maybe not the most , but it's one of the best out of the box privacy browsers right now.
No clue how it changes with agentic and how they implement it.
Lots of people seem to love to hate. Sure, any old foss browser can be more "private" and "secure" with some tinkering, but Brave does very well. Also, no one seems to have read anything about how this actually works. It will use isolated data storage and uses a separate browser profile with no access to your normal browsing or local data (unless you put it in there, of course). It's also entirely opt-in. Am I happy they're putting it in there? No. But I'm also not surprised and won't really be worried about it (until/unless I need to be, and that point I promise Firefox won't be far behind).
They never have been and never will be. Period.
They'll claim they are the most secure and private agentic browser. I hope you can disable this with a registry key.
another ai slop
Loaded with Crypto and soon to be AI. When can we stop saying "the most secure and private browser"?
Post that one their subreddit, you will get cancelled so dann hard its sad.
i absolutely hate using Brave on Desktop, ITS Interface Just seems so inconsistent on there. But I use it on android as its pretty much the only usable Browser on there with adblock.
It looks like Firefox with the rounded tabs and like Chrome with the rounded top corners on the bar beneath. And the tab accentuation colors with a dark theme are horrendous.
And i dont know If its in tablet mode in my surface or Something but the address field and every thing is bigger than the top bar that holds it and Menus Open weirdly and Buttons are Not aligned properly in settings for example
Its just totally weird (Just Like my german autocorrect when typing English)
IF you are a iphone user you can use ad guard and turn it on in safari as an extension believe it or not. I just found this out a few months ago and honestly couldn't believe I'd never seen anyone talk about it.
You know there's already AI in the browser, right? Like, Leo AI has been there since quite a while now. That didn't stop Brave from being "secure and private", maybe back up your claims?
Whatever happened to removing the crypto part of brave?
Nothing it got more, its Like skin cancer, If you irritate a small bit it gets even worse
Hahaha. It’ll be great. And very private. The most private you ever seen.
"Brave's agentic AI works in an isolated profile. This uses a separate storage to ensure cookies, caches, logins, etc., from your regular browsing data are protected. When you enable the agentic AI feature, the browser creates a separate profile that is exclusively used for the AI agent."
On the privacy side it helps, but not 100%. On the security side, it does absolutely nothing to protect the many security issues with the current state of agentic browsing, which also could lead to breaching the main profile. But it is in testing, so I won't blast them for it yet. But it is a dangerous move for them.
I'm pretty sure it'll be optional and opt-in anyway.
Spyware.
You didn't understand a single word, did you?
I know this is far too much to ask of a Redditor, but you should probably read the article.
I did. And?
Same model as chrome. AI with more AI plus crypto bloat.
AI browser from Google is called Disco.
Chrome will be getting AI agents with another AI agent monitoring it. Google announced it a while ago. Disco is something else, different purpose right now. Probably will get blended.
So they saw the Edge Co-Pilot agentic assistant and said "yea we can do that better"....
And then weren't able to. Also weren't able to notice it isn't welcome. Fucking spacca led browser for 5 year old spaccas.
Cant wait to see the post from Brendan Eich saying something along the lines of "we missed the mark on this"
No need to convince me further to avoid Brave
Fun fact, while millennials and gen z are extremely tech literate, everyone after them have grown worse and worse with tech due to companies oversimplifying and locking everything down.
With that in mind, what do you guys expect to happen when people grow up with the ability to say "buy me the best food for cheap" instead of doing any critical thinking in the slightest?
We're evolving, but backwards.
No evolution has taken place for multiple decades. Gen z and younger are thicker than a fucking brick. Tech is destroyed.
you either are secure and private or you use AI agents. You can't be both
Actually, you can with local AI, but this isn’t the case in Brave. It is in BrowserOS though.
AI bad! Updoots to the left <-
"AI bad!" bad! Updoots to the left <-
Well, at least they admit it's very dangerous and a restrictive approach to security is needed. However, I fail to see the need for creating this problem to solve it to begin with. The practical benefits of "agentic ai browsing" is debatable.
Debatable? It's dog shit. No debate needed.
I was sooooo fascinated by AI when I discovered DALL-E and when ChatGPT came out and even before that with GPT-2 (I think?) on OpenAI Playground, but I never expected it to go as far as it did…
It's garbage. Did you expect it to be garbage?
All anti firefox AI guys the last few days...
oh boy, it's time to move to another browser.
Vivaldi?
I believe they released multiple posts on Twitter about Comet Browser AI issues. However, a few months later, they released their own version. I guess I’ll be switching to Helium.
Absolute dog shit browser. Only people singing it's praises are 5 year old simps.