Statistic isn’t fake but it does need to be taken with more nuance.
A lot of (younger) lesbians jump into committed relationships way too quick, it makes sense that wlw couples who moved in too quick inevitably grow apart.
M/f relationships also have less freedom for divorce. Often times coming from families or religious expectations to stay together for values or the kids.
It’s incredibly minimizing to say this is all because “haha women be lik”
I called it "questionable" bc I myself am not sure how true the chart is since some people said that there were more factors coming into this stat than presented.
But for me it was mostly the fact that they found a way to turn it against women, whether the chart is true or not
Maybe also how there isn't an equal number of queer marriage to straight ones. Queer marriages also have a lot les children or not at all so it's easier to divorce whereas couples with children often stay married on paper but are separated until the kids are out of the house.
I'm not surprised because no offence, gay men are obssessed with sex just like hetero men, so as long as they get sex they'll stay in toxic relationship.
Eh the stats arent fake but theyre trying to use it to frame women as unresonable and the cause of divorce while ignoring every reason a woman could file for a divorce or that a long marriage does not equal a happy one
Yeah that was the main thing for me. I called it questionable bc I was not sure if it is true and some people said that the general statistic ignored certain factors. And when I read these comments as a woman I don't really feel like "haha this is so funny"
there was a similar tool used for the most men are single sexless/ women get more sex than men, fake graph
the site that hosted the tool. which was a legitimate research site with data removed said tool after that stupid graph has and still is running its course all over the internet because it was used in an unscientific way.
basically you can take any data set any study and compare it to another. this is really bad because not all studies are equal or use the same methods so comparing them like this is fallacious at best and outwright lying and propagandizing/ astroturfing at worst
Does that guy in slide 3 not know that he can totally eat vegan lasagna, build legos, and engage in mutually beneficial oral sex with a woman too? And I’m pretty sure high fiving is also allowed…
Like do men generally just think we aren’t human?
Edit: also when it comes to this data people for some reason never like it when I bring up the fact that women are the most likely to experience poverty and that is a major factor in why many sapphic relationships don’t end up making the distance. Financial stress is very frequently a huge factor in all romantic partnerships that end.
Does that guy in slide 3 not know that he can totally eat vegan lasagna, build legos, and engage in mutually beneficial oral sex with a woman too? And I’m pretty sure high fiving is also allowed…
Impossible, we're women
Like do men generally just think we aren’t human?
Short answer: Yes
Long answer: They believe women are all biologically driven to act the sane way, and that that way is unpleasant to all men
I'm pretty sure his examples are actually really harmless and probably just listing some things that he thinks male gay couples do more often. Like yeah, i bet he knows it is possible to do it with a woman. Just maybe isn't common/usually mentioned etc
Don't really think he's implying that's "better" tbh, imo he's just trying to see the good aspects of it, as he concluded "sounds like a sweet deal to me", not a full-in comparison that only gay men do that and he can't do it cause he's straight, if that makes some sense?
Yes—sort of. Men grow up understanding that women are "humans" but they grow up internalizing they're an 'other', mysterious being that is fundamentally different to men. This is why some men say they get nervous talking to women (not just their crushes) in a way women never do, or men being surprised women do 'x' thing, or they say things like "I don't know how to talk to women" , "I don't know what women want" , ect.
They don't see women as individual people with their own thoughts and personality, they are an "other" being.
We all need to internalize the fact that, outside of biological differences and the way we are raised, socially and culturally, every single person is the exact same mentally and emotionally.
Honestly divorce is not a bad thing. If two people aren’t happy being together anymore, and have tried to make things warm and can’t, divorce can be a lot more healthy than staying in a miserable marriage
If this is the same study I’m pretty sure the numbers appeared in that way because there wasn’t even numbers of same sex and opposite sex couples, something along those lines. Theres been hundreds of these studies by now but people still use this one even though it’s been proven that the stats are bullshit lol
Yeahh and also the fact that they included lesbians and gay men who were in opposite-sex relationships before they came out and put these experiences under the lesbian/gay category, but it is also often missed
Question: is this the "study"/"poll" that failed to specify (conveniently) WHEN the divorce happened and left out the important context that something like HALF the fwmale-female couple respondents got divorced from a MALE partner as they came out?
Statistic isn’t fake but it does need to be taken with more nuance. A lot of (younger) lesbians jump into committed relationships way too quick, it makes sense that wlw couples who moved in too quick inevitably grow apart.
M/f relationships also have less freedom for divorce. Often times coming from families or religious expectations to stay together for values or the kids.
It’s incredibly minimizing to say this is all because “haha women be lik”
I called it "questionable" bc I myself am not sure how true the chart is since some people said that there were more factors coming into this stat than presented.
But for me it was mostly the fact that they found a way to turn it against women, whether the chart is true or not
Maybe also how there isn't an equal number of queer marriage to straight ones. Queer marriages also have a lot les children or not at all so it's easier to divorce whereas couples with children often stay married on paper but are separated until the kids are out of the house.
Also I just found out that gay men are the least likely to get married out of all these groups, so it would also result in less divorces
I wonder why the m/m relationship has the lowest rate of all tho
Homophobia and toxic masculinity pressure = filters for the most compatible? Higher sunk cost?
I'm not surprised because no offence, gay men are obssessed with sex just like hetero men, so as long as they get sex they'll stay in toxic relationship.
Eh the stats arent fake but theyre trying to use it to frame women as unresonable and the cause of divorce while ignoring every reason a woman could file for a divorce or that a long marriage does not equal a happy one
Yeah that was the main thing for me. I called it questionable bc I was not sure if it is true and some people said that the general statistic ignored certain factors. And when I read these comments as a woman I don't really feel like "haha this is so funny"
dw its valid to have emotions
I also got angry at them basically sugesting mlm couples have it easy
theyre using datawrapper
there was a similar tool used for the most men are single sexless/ women get more sex than men, fake graph
the site that hosted the tool. which was a legitimate research site with data removed said tool after that stupid graph has and still is running its course all over the internet because it was used in an unscientific way.
basically you can take any data set any study and compare it to another. this is really bad because not all studies are equal or use the same methods so comparing them like this is fallacious at best and outwright lying and propagandizing/ astroturfing at worst
Phoenix Outwright
I was tired :(
Does that guy in slide 3 not know that he can totally eat vegan lasagna, build legos, and engage in mutually beneficial oral sex with a woman too? And I’m pretty sure high fiving is also allowed…
Like do men generally just think we aren’t human?
Edit: also when it comes to this data people for some reason never like it when I bring up the fact that women are the most likely to experience poverty and that is a major factor in why many sapphic relationships don’t end up making the distance. Financial stress is very frequently a huge factor in all romantic partnerships that end.
Impossible, we're women
Short answer: Yes
Long answer: They believe women are all biologically driven to act the sane way, and that that way is unpleasant to all men
I'm pretty sure his examples are actually really harmless and probably just listing some things that he thinks male gay couples do more often. Like yeah, i bet he knows it is possible to do it with a woman. Just maybe isn't common/usually mentioned etc
But is it really necessary to make such comments to imply it is better with a guy? And also while having a wife?
Don't really think he's implying that's "better" tbh, imo he's just trying to see the good aspects of it, as he concluded "sounds like a sweet deal to me", not a full-in comparison that only gay men do that and he can't do it cause he's straight, if that makes some sense?
Yes—sort of. Men grow up understanding that women are "humans" but they grow up internalizing they're an 'other', mysterious being that is fundamentally different to men. This is why some men say they get nervous talking to women (not just their crushes) in a way women never do, or men being surprised women do 'x' thing, or they say things like "I don't know how to talk to women" , "I don't know what women want" , ect.
They don't see women as individual people with their own thoughts and personality, they are an "other" being.
We all need to internalize the fact that, outside of biological differences and the way we are raised, socially and culturally, every single person is the exact same mentally and emotionally.
Wow pro-gay misogyny is a new one. Colour ne impressed
Honestly divorce is not a bad thing. If two people aren’t happy being together anymore, and have tried to make things warm and can’t, divorce can be a lot more healthy than staying in a miserable marriage
Yeahh but the people who comment won't consider that and will just say "see? women bad!"
Isn’t this the study that had a shitty sample so the numbers are all skewed?
Could be, since apparently same sex marriage got legal only 1 decade ago, and this study shows stats from 20 yrs ago?
If this is the same study I’m pretty sure the numbers appeared in that way because there wasn’t even numbers of same sex and opposite sex couples, something along those lines. Theres been hundreds of these studies by now but people still use this one even though it’s been proven that the stats are bullshit lol
Yeahh and also the fact that they included lesbians and gay men who were in opposite-sex relationships before they came out and put these experiences under the lesbian/gay category, but it is also often missed
Same sex marriage became legal in every state a decade ago. It was legal in certain states and other countries for far longer
"But you motherfucker ate my chocolate bar that one night in 2016!" -My male best friend
Okay that was too much bro basically a war crime
In my defense I didn't know it was his and I did my best to compensate him
And you ate it anyway? Monster!
Yes. I was young and dumb. Now, after gaining another decade of valuable life experience, I am no longer young.
How much do you reckon that statistic would change if it included <1 year relationships
Still find it funny that these are the same men who will clutch their pearls when you bring up crime statistics.
Oh yeah, the classic "bUt wOmEn kIiL TOo."
Question: is this the "study"/"poll" that failed to specify (conveniently) WHEN the divorce happened and left out the important context that something like HALF the fwmale-female couple respondents got divorced from a MALE partner as they came out?