JJJ is the exact player we need but would be very expensive. If new ownership wants to show that they are dedicated to winning they could do it.
Trade would have to be something like Simons, Walsh and three firsts. The rest of the salary could fit into the KP trade exception.
That would lock us into this team for the next few years which isn’t the worst thing.
With Simons playing so well I would rather look for a big man that gets bought out or trade for a backup center. Neemias and Garza have exceeded all expectations, but we still need more depth and ideally more of a bruiser or taller guy to play some of the bigger guys for 10 minutes a game.
Ironically Kornett would be perfect but I don’t think anyone saw us being this good.
I do think there is a chance that we bring back Simons. If we could offer 3 years for $50mill ($15mill, $15mill, $20mill player option) that could make sense for both sides. He has always been a bucket but you can see big improvement on defensive effort. With his size there will always be limitations but you can tell he is putting in work and effort on that side of the ball.
Imo no you have to be very careful about who you give that kind of money to with this new CBA. Obviously JJJ is a good player in general but he can be inconsistent and has had a lot of injuries. He also isn't a good rebounder for his size, one of the things that bugs Grizzlies fans.
He's making $35m this season, so Simons + Hauser would work as salary matching. His salary jumps next season though. Next 4 seasons he's making $49m, 50m, 52m, 53m which is rough
Yeah, fuck that noise. No thanks. At that cap hit, he’d need to be better than he is. That’s max level money essentially, we already have two max guys and can’t afford them as it is.
I commented this elsewhere on the thread but the short version is that his salary increase is not a concern because all the cap figures are inflating at a rate higher than all three of the J’s contracts. We wouldn’t even be in the first apron next year before signing additional free agents and draft picks assuming the trade includes one of the young wings
I’ve always wanted JJJ. He was always touted as a Horford-like player back in the day and we know the type of player fits well on our team.
I hate his future contract, though. It’s just not feasible with all 3 of Tatum, Brown, and White. And I don’t know that you really want to give up White or Brown for him
Personally I'm not too worried about his lack of rebounding. Horford and Porzingis were never great rebounders either and we have a history of being good at rebounding by committee. Tatum, Brown, White, and Pritchard all rebound well for their size and positions, so I wouldn't expect that to be a major issue with this core.
I actually think JJJ would be kind of a dream fit for this team, it's just his contract that's the issue. The only way I could see it working is if the salary cap jumped by an abnormally large amount in the next year or two, like it did in 2016-2017 when the Warriors signed KD. I'm not sure how that stuff works but I imagine it's unlikely.
To be fair, Horford and Zinger were centers that could at least bring in over 7 boards a game. Something seems odd about a PF/Center entering his prime that has averaged over 6 rebounds once in his career. Especially one that would be the youngest and tallest player of all the ones you mentioned.
We need someone to make sure Mitchell Robinson doesn’t destroy us on the offensive boards. All those guys are good rebounders for their position but they’re not gonna stop robinson
JJJ is super talented but his contract is a serious eyesore. It's hard enough to field a deep, balanced roster to contend around two supermax guys in Tatum and Brown - adding a third guy in JJJ at essentially 30% max and paying a combined $164 million between them makes it near impossible. Add in White and that number balloons to $195 million, which is $7 million under the tax line.
Simons + Hauser works as a salary match this season, but the 26-27 roster would almost certainly be over the second apron. We should be willing to pay for a contending team, but the team building constraints this would put on our ability to further shift and add talent can't be understated.
His shot making and defense are obviously great, but I don't know how I feel about paying $49 million for a big that cannot rebound for the life of him. In spite of his size and everything he brings, it's tough to play him at the 5 for that reason. I know some of that could be mitigated having Tatum - who is a plus defensive rebounder at his position - at the 4 next to him, but I think right now we need defensive rebounding solutions at that spot.
The 26-27 figures have the 2nd apron projected to be at $228M. We won’t even be touching the first apron before signing any additional free agents and draft picks. I posted a multi-year cap projection in another comment. Money won’t be an issue because all three J’s are already locked up long term and won’t need extensions for a while
Assuming the player cost is only Simons + Hauser - if you swap out Hauser for JJJ on the 26-27 payroll, you’re at $218.8m with only 11 guys rostered. If you add only 2 vet minimums at league average, you’re over the second apron at $223.7m and still one player short for the legal roster minimum of 14 players
Thanks for the spotrac link. Even with that in mind I think that’s worth it tbh and with the inflation we likely wouldn’t be a 2nd apron team going into 27-28. We’ve always been a rebound by committee type of squad anyways and JJJ’s rim protection and popping makes him like our Superpowered version of Chris Bosh
JJJ goes full time at the 4 with Queta and even Garza being able to be played next to him. Start White/Brown/Tatum/JJJ/Queta with PP/Hugo/Walsh/Minott/Garza off the bench.
JJJ can't rebound, so you'd rather have him at the 4, but can definitely play the 5 when needed
You've also got the option of running JJJ at the 5 and putting someone like Tatum or Minott at the 4 and running the two positions interchangeably, like we did with Tatum/Horford.
Yea, the biggest issue is that JJJ is even a worse rebounder than Horford was. I don't think people realize just how bad JJJ is on the boards. Like, Al and Porzingis aren't great rebounders for bigs, but JJJ is closer to Pritchard in terms of rebounding than he is KP or Horford.
Horford Reb% in our title run: 11.6%
KP Reb% in our title run: 11.5%
PP Reb% in our title run: 7.1%
JJJ current Reb%: 8.4%
JJJ + Tatum will not be able to rebound enough in the front court, even though Tatum is actually good at it. JJJ at the 5 for stretches is fine, but to use that to the extent we used Horford just doesn't seem viable.
No you wouldn’t. The second apron is going to be a lot higher in 2 years than it was a year ago. Three $50M aav contracts is absolutely affordable as soon as next year and the year after that going forward. It works. I posted cap figures on another comment
When you look at what it would cost salary-wise, that whole rotation ends up being a defensive juggernaught.
This trade would force us to give up Simons + Hauser, which means all their minutes are being pumped into the young defensive wings. We wouldn't just be adding a DPOY contender to the starting lineup, we'd be making the bench a lot more defensively oriented as well.
One super underrated fact here; we could get him without giving up any of our top 4
Simons/hauser/1-2 of Walsh/minott/baylor/tillman works financially, and we’d probably attach a first and that’s a fair offer
Honestly I’d 100% do it as a plan B to Zubac, his rebounding isn’t good but neither was horfords and he was our most effective big for the last decade and we won a chip with him at the 5
Good deal for rhe Celts, but why is this a good deal for rhe Grizzlies? JJJ is good for them and doesn't come with the Morant character questions. Walsh may be a lower ceiling replacement, but I could see them wanting Walsh, Hugo and Hauser just for value, then there's Simons contract to match but is not really a positive.
Then toss in multiple first rounders (since even this year, without the Celts built to compete, the draft pick will still be well outside the lottery). Doesn't seem with the way the rosters constructed today there's a good deal there unless you slip out Simons for White or PP who actually have value, when include all the above, and picks.
I mean it depends what the market is; for as useful a player as JJJ is he comes with some big negatives; big that can’t rebound, very injury prone, very expensive(50 mill a year is superstar money)
So like i said depends on what other teams would give up vs this offer, but i think what I said is at least competitive
Hauser and Simon’s are just two solid role players who can both start if need be, a young wing flier, and a first(maybe 2 firsts if need be)
It’s not awful when you consider the downsides to Jackson
Big downsides for us and our cap space, he'd be exactly what a lot of other teams are looking for as they continue to improve and could use a talent like JJJ. If Memphis moves on from both he and Morant, our role players and our picks aren't a top 5 rebuilding/retooling offer.
That only works for this year, then you'd essentially have to blow up the team in a year or two. His cap hit goes to $49 million next year...he's not worth that.
You’re not wrong, but while technically true I don’t think it’s as simple as “he makes double and isn’t twice as good.”
Zubac is for sure the better “value” in those terms, but I hate his fit on the team and don’t have as much interest in him as many others. He’s an exploitable paint clogger, non-versatile defender, and space killer. JJJ’s potential in the C’s system is much more intriguing to me as a long term answer.
I don’t think it’s possible to acquire him and reset the tax this year which makes it more of a pipe dream than reality, but I’m also not a cap expert. I do know I’d feel much better about a lineup of PP/White/JB/Tatum/JJJ than with Zubac, and if at all possible money wise would much rather that as a plan A
He earns too much, which would make a trade financially difficult; you'd basically just be renting him for a season and it changes the dynamic of the team.
Also, was listening to Zach Lowe and Goldsberry and there were some points that Kirk raised that were concerning, like how JJJ is pretty unreliable inside and that he's not really a player you can have at the 5 even in small lineups, like Team USA learned. There was one example Kirk made that JJJ will sometimes try to do these Giannis-like drives and spectacularly fail.
So if you want a Porzingis replacement, meaning reliable down low in mismatches to get easy buckets when the defense keys in on the Jays or just change the offense, JJJ is probably not the answer. He's really more of a 'name' guy that fans think is really great but probably not the fit you want at the price he commands. The Celtics really can't have 3 guys making upwards of $50 million.
I’ve watched a decent amount of grizzlies games this year and I personally wouldn’t be interested. He fouls a lot, can’t rebound, and his contract is ridiculous
Thank you! I feel like I'm taking crazy pills looking at the comments here. I seriously don't think you can win a chip when your 6'10" big averages less than 6 RPG while also averaging 4 fouls per game.
I'll be the downer. I don't want a 5 that plays like a 4, cannot stay out of foul trouble and averages less than 6 rebounds per game. Dude literally averages 3.8 fouls and 2.2 TOV, all to grab down 5.6 RPG.
Celtics fans would JJJ. It’s a really bad culture fit.
JJJ is also a very tough player to build around. His defense only shows up when he’s playing the floor next to a traditional big. That means you’re giving up spacing at two slots and committing a max contract slot to a guy who requires complimentary pieces that you’d rather not acquire.
JJJ is a better idea than he is a player, specifically for this team.
I doubt we have the pick capital to get it done, but theoretically I think he’d be a good fit. Getting an elite rim defender and a stretch big would fit the KP shaped hole in our hearts, and I think we have enough rebound in the rest of the lineup to make up for his biggest flaw. Doubt it’ll happen, but it’d be neat if it did!
True, but I’d still be surprised if he went for anything less than 2frp, and if he’s on the market, there are definitely team who could offer more valuable picks than ours
It’s hard to say that worth any kind of confidence when all the big money guys don’t bring back multiple firsts. Not Luka, Not Trae. Two way guys on bargain contracts seem to be the only ones bringing multiple firsts.
To anyone concerned about the cap figures, I’ll post the projections below. But in short, the 2nd apron restrictions basically resolve themselves since all three J’s are long term deals.
2024-25 Season
Salary Cap: $140.59
Luxury Tax: $170.81M
First Apron: $178.13M
Second Apron: $188.93M
2025-26 Season
Salary Cap: $154.6M
Luxury Tax: $187.9M
First Apron: $195.9M
Second Apron: $207.8M
Formulas
Salary Cap: Prev Yr Salary Cap * 1.10
Luxury Tax: Current Yr Salary Cap * 1.215
1st Apron: Last Yr 1st Apron * (CYSC/LYSC)
2nd Apron: Last Yr 2nd Apron * (CYSC/LYSC)
I’ve been wanting Jaren on this team for a while and I can confidently say yes the money DOES work long term. Off the top of my head we’d be under the first apron next season (assuming the deal is Simons Hauser and one of the young wings) before signing any additional free agents and draft picks
I posted cap figures in another comment but short answer is that the $50m per year isn’t a concern since the cap inflation makes it a lot more comfortable to hold 3 of those every year. They’re all locked in so no one is going to be touching that 70 per year range anytime soon. We wouldn’t even be in the first apron next year if we traded Simons Hauser and one of the young wings
If I'm Memphis I d at least ask for Matching salary Walsh/Hugo and 3 firsts. JJJ has value and our picks aren't good and won't be for years. Anyone willing to do that?
Hopefully not here, he fouls too much, he couldn’t grab a rebound to save his damn life, and he’s a terrible decision maker constantly either fouling or throwing the ball away out of double teams. Keep this man far away from the c’s.
That and, I’m hyper critical of center sized dudes who refuse to play center. Like, what do you mean you can’t box out and grab boards against people of comparable size?? What do you do then??
Is he worth 50 mil??? I’d rather that money be spread out among a few role players.
Not to mention we don’t have that kind of money anyway. Remember, we are still currently over the first apron.
JJJ is the exact player we need but would be very expensive. If new ownership wants to show that they are dedicated to winning they could do it.
Trade would have to be something like Simons, Walsh and three firsts. The rest of the salary could fit into the KP trade exception.
That would lock us into this team for the next few years which isn’t the worst thing.
With Simons playing so well I would rather look for a big man that gets bought out or trade for a backup center. Neemias and Garza have exceeded all expectations, but we still need more depth and ideally more of a bruiser or taller guy to play some of the bigger guys for 10 minutes a game.
Ironically Kornett would be perfect but I don’t think anyone saw us being this good.
I do think there is a chance that we bring back Simons. If we could offer 3 years for $50mill ($15mill, $15mill, $20mill player option) that could make sense for both sides. He has always been a bucket but you can see big improvement on defensive effort. With his size there will always be limitations but you can tell he is putting in work and effort on that side of the ball.
Can't combine a TPE with other salaries. Also, I don't really think a big that doesn't rebound is exactly what we need.
Yeah he’d be perfect if he wasn’t such an underwhelming rebounder
Kinda feels they bring back Simons. His defense has improved.
JJJ would be a premium price. I don't know if Celtic 1st round picks have much value. I b
Imo no you have to be very careful about who you give that kind of money to with this new CBA. Obviously JJJ is a good player in general but he can be inconsistent and has had a lot of injuries. He also isn't a good rebounder for his size, one of the things that bugs Grizzlies fans.
Feel like he'll be too expensive for us
I don’t feel like he solves any of problems anyways
He’s a very versatile defensive big, but not at all a center and a terrible rebounder for his size, unfortunately.
Exactly. This sub pleads for size and rebounding but wants a tall wing that can’t rebound?
He's making $35m this season, so Simons + Hauser would work as salary matching. His salary jumps next season though. Next 4 seasons he's making $49m, 50m, 52m, 53m which is rough
That's too much.
Don’t see Brad even considering this.
Yeah, fuck that noise. No thanks. At that cap hit, he’d need to be better than he is. That’s max level money essentially, we already have two max guys and can’t afford them as it is.
I thought I read somewhere that you can't combine salaries to match?
That's one of the 2nd apron restrictions, but it wouldn't affect us.
That’s a lot.
I commented this elsewhere on the thread but the short version is that his salary increase is not a concern because all the cap figures are inflating at a rate higher than all three of the J’s contracts. We wouldn’t even be in the first apron next year before signing additional free agents and draft picks assuming the trade includes one of the young wings
I’ve always wanted JJJ. He was always touted as a Horford-like player back in the day and we know the type of player fits well on our team.
I hate his future contract, though. It’s just not feasible with all 3 of Tatum, Brown, and White. And I don’t know that you really want to give up White or Brown for him
Jjj can’t rebound, which is kinda what we need a new big to do
Personally I'm not too worried about his lack of rebounding. Horford and Porzingis were never great rebounders either and we have a history of being good at rebounding by committee. Tatum, Brown, White, and Pritchard all rebound well for their size and positions, so I wouldn't expect that to be a major issue with this core.
I actually think JJJ would be kind of a dream fit for this team, it's just his contract that's the issue. The only way I could see it working is if the salary cap jumped by an abnormally large amount in the next year or two, like it did in 2016-2017 when the Warriors signed KD. I'm not sure how that stuff works but I imagine it's unlikely.
To be fair, Horford and Zinger were centers that could at least bring in over 7 boards a game. Something seems odd about a PF/Center entering his prime that has averaged over 6 rebounds once in his career. Especially one that would be the youngest and tallest player of all the ones you mentioned.
Not disagreeing w you, just saying, pretty sure Tingus pingus is like 7’3, and jjj is about 6’10.
We need someone to make sure Mitchell Robinson doesn’t destroy us on the offensive boards. All those guys are good rebounders for their position but they’re not gonna stop robinson
JJJ is super talented but his contract is a serious eyesore. It's hard enough to field a deep, balanced roster to contend around two supermax guys in Tatum and Brown - adding a third guy in JJJ at essentially 30% max and paying a combined $164 million between them makes it near impossible. Add in White and that number balloons to $195 million, which is $7 million under the tax line.
Simons + Hauser works as a salary match this season, but the 26-27 roster would almost certainly be over the second apron. We should be willing to pay for a contending team, but the team building constraints this would put on our ability to further shift and add talent can't be understated.
His shot making and defense are obviously great, but I don't know how I feel about paying $49 million for a big that cannot rebound for the life of him. In spite of his size and everything he brings, it's tough to play him at the 5 for that reason. I know some of that could be mitigated having Tatum - who is a plus defensive rebounder at his position - at the 4 next to him, but I think right now we need defensive rebounding solutions at that spot.
The 26-27 figures have the 2nd apron projected to be at $228M. We won’t even be touching the first apron before signing any additional free agents and draft picks. I posted a multi-year cap projection in another comment. Money won’t be an issue because all three J’s are already locked up long term and won’t need extensions for a while
Spotrac lists projected second apron for 2026-27 at $223.081m: https://www.spotrac.com/nba/boston-celtics/cap/_/year/2026/sort/cap_total
Assuming the player cost is only Simons + Hauser - if you swap out Hauser for JJJ on the 26-27 payroll, you’re at $218.8m with only 11 guys rostered. If you add only 2 vet minimums at league average, you’re over the second apron at $223.7m and still one player short for the legal roster minimum of 14 players
Thanks for the spotrac link. Even with that in mind I think that’s worth it tbh and with the inflation we likely wouldn’t be a 2nd apron team going into 27-28. We’ve always been a rebound by committee type of squad anyways and JJJ’s rim protection and popping makes him like our Superpowered version of Chris Bosh
White/Brown/Tatum/JJJ is nasty. I’d do it
JJJ goes full time at the 4 with Queta and even Garza being able to be played next to him. Start White/Brown/Tatum/JJJ/Queta with PP/Hugo/Walsh/Minott/Garza off the bench.
JJJ can't rebound, so you'd rather have him at the 4, but can definitely play the 5 when needed
Good lineup but u still have to give up more then just Simmons
How does Amari Williams and a 2nd round pick sound?
You've also got the option of running JJJ at the 5 and putting someone like Tatum or Minott at the 4 and running the two positions interchangeably, like we did with Tatum/Horford.
Yea, the biggest issue is that JJJ is even a worse rebounder than Horford was. I don't think people realize just how bad JJJ is on the boards. Like, Al and Porzingis aren't great rebounders for bigs, but JJJ is closer to Pritchard in terms of rebounding than he is KP or Horford.
Horford Reb% in our title run: 11.6%
KP Reb% in our title run: 11.5%
PP Reb% in our title run: 7.1%
JJJ current Reb%: 8.4%
JJJ + Tatum will not be able to rebound enough in the front court, even though Tatum is actually good at it. JJJ at the 5 for stretches is fine, but to use that to the extent we used Horford just doesn't seem viable.
Not with that salary, you’d have to blow the whole team up in 2 years to get under the apron.
That’s just going to be the reality of our situation with Brown and Tatum’s contracts regardless
No you wouldn’t. The second apron is going to be a lot higher in 2 years than it was a year ago. Three $50M aav contracts is absolutely affordable as soon as next year and the year after that going forward. It works. I posted cap figures on another comment
When you look at what it would cost salary-wise, that whole rotation ends up being a defensive juggernaught.
This trade would force us to give up Simons + Hauser, which means all their minutes are being pumped into the young defensive wings. We wouldn't just be adding a DPOY contender to the starting lineup, we'd be making the bench a lot more defensively oriented as well.
White / Walsh / Brown / Tatum / JJJ
Pritchard / Scheierman / Gonzalez / Minott / Queta
That's a 10-man rotation and 9 of those guys could be given the primary defensive assignment each night.
More than the cap right there
Tasty
Ooooooh I like this
I like it. Gonna be hard as shit to make work, but I like it.
One super underrated fact here; we could get him without giving up any of our top 4
Simons/hauser/1-2 of Walsh/minott/baylor/tillman works financially, and we’d probably attach a first and that’s a fair offer
Honestly I’d 100% do it as a plan B to Zubac, his rebounding isn’t good but neither was horfords and he was our most effective big for the last decade and we won a chip with him at the 5
Good deal for rhe Celts, but why is this a good deal for rhe Grizzlies? JJJ is good for them and doesn't come with the Morant character questions. Walsh may be a lower ceiling replacement, but I could see them wanting Walsh, Hugo and Hauser just for value, then there's Simons contract to match but is not really a positive.
Then toss in multiple first rounders (since even this year, without the Celts built to compete, the draft pick will still be well outside the lottery). Doesn't seem with the way the rosters constructed today there's a good deal there unless you slip out Simons for White or PP who actually have value, when include all the above, and picks.
I mean it depends what the market is; for as useful a player as JJJ is he comes with some big negatives; big that can’t rebound, very injury prone, very expensive(50 mill a year is superstar money)
So like i said depends on what other teams would give up vs this offer, but i think what I said is at least competitive
Hauser and Simon’s are just two solid role players who can both start if need be, a young wing flier, and a first(maybe 2 firsts if need be)
It’s not awful when you consider the downsides to Jackson
Big downsides for us and our cap space, he'd be exactly what a lot of other teams are looking for as they continue to improve and could use a talent like JJJ. If Memphis moves on from both he and Morant, our role players and our picks aren't a top 5 rebuilding/retooling offer.
problem here is that the grizz are really good at drafting/developing guys, so theyd want quality over quantity if theyre blowing it up
That only works for this year, then you'd essentially have to blow up the team in a year or two. His cap hit goes to $49 million next year...he's not worth that.
Money aside, which is a big factor, I'd prefer JJJ over Zubac
I mean yeah but money is everything, Jackson makes more than double what Zubac makes and he’s absolutely not double the player
You’re not wrong, but while technically true I don’t think it’s as simple as “he makes double and isn’t twice as good.”
Zubac is for sure the better “value” in those terms, but I hate his fit on the team and don’t have as much interest in him as many others. He’s an exploitable paint clogger, non-versatile defender, and space killer. JJJ’s potential in the C’s system is much more intriguing to me as a long term answer.
I don’t think it’s possible to acquire him and reset the tax this year which makes it more of a pipe dream than reality, but I’m also not a cap expert. I do know I’d feel much better about a lineup of PP/White/JB/Tatum/JJJ than with Zubac, and if at all possible money wise would much rather that as a plan A
He earns too much, which would make a trade financially difficult; you'd basically just be renting him for a season and it changes the dynamic of the team.
Also, was listening to Zach Lowe and Goldsberry and there were some points that Kirk raised that were concerning, like how JJJ is pretty unreliable inside and that he's not really a player you can have at the 5 even in small lineups, like Team USA learned. There was one example Kirk made that JJJ will sometimes try to do these Giannis-like drives and spectacularly fail.
So if you want a Porzingis replacement, meaning reliable down low in mismatches to get easy buckets when the defense keys in on the Jays or just change the offense, JJJ is probably not the answer. He's really more of a 'name' guy that fans think is really great but probably not the fit you want at the price he commands. The Celtics really can't have 3 guys making upwards of $50 million.
Isn’t he allergic to rebounding for a 4/5?
Feel like that’s one of our weak points. No thanks.
I’ve watched a decent amount of grizzlies games this year and I personally wouldn’t be interested. He fouls a lot, can’t rebound, and his contract is ridiculous
Thank you! I feel like I'm taking crazy pills looking at the comments here. I seriously don't think you can win a chip when your 6'10" big averages less than 6 RPG while also averaging 4 fouls per game.
I'll be the downer. I don't want a 5 that plays like a 4, cannot stay out of foul trouble and averages less than 6 rebounds per game. Dude literally averages 3.8 fouls and 2.2 TOV, all to grab down 5.6 RPG.
Celtics fans would JJJ. It’s a really bad culture fit.
JJJ is also a very tough player to build around. His defense only shows up when he’s playing the floor next to a traditional big. That means you’re giving up spacing at two slots and committing a max contract slot to a guy who requires complimentary pieces that you’d rather not acquire.
JJJ is a better idea than he is a player, specifically for this team.
the Porzingis replacement. I'm not worried about the rebounding, our starting 2, 3, and 4 are all great rebounders.
We’ve also proven we can win a chip handily with a below average rebounding center
Al wasn’t a great rebounder by any means
The man got up for it in the playoffs
I doubt we have the pick capital to get it done, but theoretically I think he’d be a good fit. Getting an elite rim defender and a stretch big would fit the KP shaped hole in our hearts, and I think we have enough rebound in the rest of the lineup to make up for his biggest flaw. Doubt it’ll happen, but it’d be neat if it did!
I doubt he’s worth a lot of picks. His salary in this cap era is already a huge negative.
True, but I’d still be surprised if he went for anything less than 2frp, and if he’s on the market, there are definitely team who could offer more valuable picks than ours
It’s hard to say that worth any kind of confidence when all the big money guys don’t bring back multiple firsts. Not Luka, Not Trae. Two way guys on bargain contracts seem to be the only ones bringing multiple firsts.
To anyone concerned about the cap figures, I’ll post the projections below. But in short, the 2nd apron restrictions basically resolve themselves since all three J’s are long term deals.
2024-25 Season Salary Cap: $140.59 Luxury Tax: $170.81M First Apron: $178.13M Second Apron: $188.93M
2025-26 Season Salary Cap: $154.6M Luxury Tax: $187.9M First Apron: $195.9M Second Apron: $207.8M
2026-27 Season Salary Cap: $170.06M Luxury Tax: $206.62M 1st Apron: $215.44M 2nd Apron: $228.52M
2027-28 Season Salary Cap: $187.07M Luxury Tax: $227.29M 1st Apron: $236.98M 2nd Apron: $251.37M
2028-29 Season Salary Cap: $205.78M Luxury Tax: $250.02M 1st Apron: $260.68M 2nd Apron: $276.51M
Formulas Salary Cap: Prev Yr Salary Cap * 1.10 Luxury Tax: Current Yr Salary Cap * 1.215 1st Apron: Last Yr 1st Apron * (CYSC/LYSC) 2nd Apron: Last Yr 2nd Apron * (CYSC/LYSC)
I’ve been wanting Jaren on this team for a while and I can confidently say yes the money DOES work long term. Off the top of my head we’d be under the first apron next season (assuming the deal is Simons Hauser and one of the young wings) before signing any additional free agents and draft picks
I would be down but hed be a pretty obvious 3rd best player.
Hes pretty overrated and very expensive.
$50M for a big that fouls too much and doesn’t hit the glass. NEXT!
Zubac does just as much defensively, and adds more as a rebounder and screen setter.
Can we get Edey instead? 👀
Would rather have Zubac even if the salary was the same.
Floppen Flopson Jr ...
No thanks
JJJ is a great player and a great fit on the team but OOF that extension after his current contract is ROUGH
I posted cap figures in another comment but short answer is that the $50m per year isn’t a concern since the cap inflation makes it a lot more comfortable to hold 3 of those every year. They’re all locked in so no one is going to be touching that 70 per year range anytime soon. We wouldn’t even be in the first apron next year if we traded Simons Hauser and one of the young wings
Was there a morant deal? Am I missing something? Or is Memphis just hopefully someone will take that asshole from them?
Sounds like they are publicly shopping him. I bet a deal gets done
50 mill for a big who is known for not rebounding, no thanks
Hard no. He fouls too much, not a great passer and gets injured a lot.
He had injury concerns early in his career but ever since that 21-22 season he’s been substantially more available
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Hes had some good years. After tonights performance I'd try anything.
No way should the Celtics be anywhere near this
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Brad make the call next
Good player, but pass on that contract
I never want to have to root for his jump shot.
If I'm Memphis I d at least ask for Matching salary Walsh/Hugo and 3 firsts. JJJ has value and our picks aren't good and won't be for years. Anyone willing to do that?
No Hugo. Anyone but Hugo.
Denver moved on from MPJ and replaced that salary with valanciunas Bruce brown THJ and cam Johnson
We need a move like that over a very good player who doesn’t get a fair whistle most of the time and doesn’t rebound as a big
50m a year for a forward who doesn't rebound, no thanks
Would be a great fit for the C's
With the new CBA, he is too expensive.
I do not think we are one JJJ away from winning banner 19 but this isn’t a bad lineup. Assuming we have to move off Simons and Minott.
Starters: White, Brown, Walsh, Tatum, Jackson
Bench: Pritchard, Hauser, Hugo, Garza, Queta
Hopefully not here, he fouls too much, he couldn’t grab a rebound to save his damn life, and he’s a terrible decision maker constantly either fouling or throwing the ball away out of double teams. Keep this man far away from the c’s.
That and, I’m hyper critical of center sized dudes who refuse to play center. Like, what do you mean you can’t box out and grab boards against people of comparable size?? What do you do then??