I don't think this is intended to be transphobic, if only because I think the author of this comic is so backwards as to not even consider the idea of trans folks.
The joke would still be queer=predator. Could maybe be done in a tasteful way if that was the intent and made by an actual lesbian and not an old straight man, but equating lesbians to predators is an old trope that still causes active harm
It's quite telling that whoever made this chose to draw the cis woman in an unnecessarily sexualised way. Obviously we can't be letting those pesky trans women into changing rooms, on account of all of them being perverts who lust over women, but it's okay when we do it.
You painted a naked woman because you enjoyed looking at her, put a mirror in her hand and you called the painting “Vanity,” thus morally condemning the woman whose nakedness you had depicted for you own pleasure.
This! The artist is the one sexualizing a girl changing clothes in a locker room. Assuming this is supposed to be college and not high school, this girl would be 22 or younger - I wonder how old the artist is?
I'm a trans woman in a womens team and the other girls are actively telling me that it's okay to use the same changing room as them and are inviting me to after game spa days while I keep insisting that I'd prefer to get my own changing room
That's because you're not a pervert, you're a woman. These are the same people that just think of anal sex when asked about homosexuality, disregarding everything else that comes with it.
Yeah, I'm fine with being in the team, the other women are fine with me being in the team, the staff is fine with me being in the team. But some boomer across the sea didn't consent to me being there.
Trans women aren't the problem, men abusing the system are
Trans people in sports discourse is the biggest psy op I've ever seen.
If you listen to the right you'd think that there's a generation of trans women plotting and scheming to enter women's sports so they can cheat and sexually abuse women.
Not only is it completely and utterly untrue, it's the biggest exaggeration ever. There are so few trans athletes that it's actually idiotic to treat it as anything with this much importance and attention
I am guessing that those are straight guys just dressed as girls to watch the actual girl change in the locker room. They appear to have stubble drawn on their faces based on the shading.
this has nothing to do with trans athlete controversy. that’s concerned with fairness (as in, do trans people have an advantage), while this comic is concerned with the idea of men pretending to be trans to peep on women in washrooms and changerooms.
i’m aware! i’m trans. my point is that many transpobes act like trans women are just that, crossdressing, in order to spy on women. which is what this comic is about.
My impression was they viewed it as isolated instances of predatory behaviour, but even then I don't think they believe people are simply pretending to be the other gender with malicious intent, but that's simply AA negative side effects.
However I'm happy to concede I may not have a firm grasp of what transphobes think.
yeah i think your grasp of transphobic thought and rhetoric is a bit lacking; transphobes have been trying (and succeeding in a few countries, at least) to push the narrative that trans women specifically are all men masquerading as women to get access to womens spaces.
media representation of us is and has been frequently either as sexual "traps" for men (look up the trans panic defense), or men crossdressing in an attempt to voyeuristically groom women, and unfortunately even less explicit cartoons like this will be used as examples of our inherently "predatory" nature.
But they believe it's a minority problem don't they? Like, 1 in 100 might be a bloke in a dress and therefore the whole thing should be cancelled? I'm not sure any of them think literally all trans women are pretending, particularly when it gets to the point of surgery
they prefer the terms deluded or confused, which are functionally no different; and no they believe this about all trans women. to them we are all men in womens spaces.
Dear boomers, this shit is called projection.
You know YOU would abuse the situation in this way, so you assume everyone is as depraved as you
I remember a thing from Mike Huckabee saying this is exactly what he’d do given the chance.
It’s always projection with these people. They can’t fathom a world where people aren’t giant sacks of shit like they are.
This isn’t even good locker room porn.
This dude drew comics between 1962 and like 1977. This was in no way intended to be a critique of transgender people in women's sports.
Maybe it was not intended.
But it WILL get used as "critique" by people today
I don't think this is intended to be transphobic, if only because I think the author of this comic is so backwards as to not even consider the idea of trans folks.
well, probably he thinks that about gay women
He died in 1990.
That's the period
It’s so telling that they had to make sure her nipples we’re visible.
Larry Nassar!
They are just good old peeping toms in wigs. There is no other meanings that male fantasies.
I thought the joke was that there’s so many lesbians in women’s sports. :/ Would still not be funny of course but at least better than transphobia.
The joke would still be queer=predator. Could maybe be done in a tasteful way if that was the intent and made by an actual lesbian and not an old straight man, but equating lesbians to predators is an old trope that still causes active harm
Yeah I agree, that’s why I said it would still not be funny
Oh sorry, no idea why but I read “at least it would be funny.” That’s what I get for being on Reddit before I take my adderall lol
No problem haha your comment was still a good addition with the explanation as to why it would be problematic either way. :)
It's quite telling that whoever made this chose to draw the cis woman in an unnecessarily sexualised way. Obviously we can't be letting those pesky trans women into changing rooms, on account of all of them being perverts who lust over women, but it's okay when we do it.
— John Berger, Ways of Seeing
This! The artist is the one sexualizing a girl changing clothes in a locker room. Assuming this is supposed to be college and not high school, this girl would be 22 or younger - I wonder how old the artist is?
Well the artist also Wyatt Manned everyone else's nose except hers
Boomers got so little going on, they even have to invent problems to be mad at
I'm a trans woman in a womens team and the other girls are actively telling me that it's okay to use the same changing room as them and are inviting me to after game spa days while I keep insisting that I'd prefer to get my own changing room
That's because you're not a pervert, you're a woman. These are the same people that just think of anal sex when asked about homosexuality, disregarding everything else that comes with it.
Yeah, I'm fine with being in the team, the other women are fine with me being in the team, the staff is fine with me being in the team. But some boomer across the sea didn't consent to me being there. Trans women aren't the problem, men abusing the system are
r/boomerhentai ?
Trans people in sports discourse is the biggest psy op I've ever seen.
If you listen to the right you'd think that there's a generation of trans women plotting and scheming to enter women's sports so they can cheat and sexually abuse women.
Not only is it completely and utterly untrue, it's the biggest exaggeration ever. There are so few trans athletes that it's actually idiotic to treat it as anything with this much importance and attention
why is she caked as shit
Thought this was a meta joke about them being in a comic strip at first, now I’m disappointed
Ladies and gentlemen, Larry Nassar
Just like Juwanna Mann.
I think most people are aware that this is exactly why they put on this act.
That's actually pretty funny...
-joker
I am guessing that those are straight guys just dressed as girls to watch the actual girl change in the locker room. They appear to have stubble drawn on their faces based on the shading.
yes, but there’s a VERY good chance it’s connected to the narrative that trans women transition to get into women’s spaces for nefarious reasons
Depends on when it was drawn I suppose.
no? the trope of trans women being portrayed as predators has been around for centuries
prejudice and stereotypes against trans people isn’t a new thing at all
Many of these playboy and hustler style comics were drawn decades before trans athlete controversy was a thing.
this has nothing to do with trans athlete controversy. that’s concerned with fairness (as in, do trans people have an advantage), while this comic is concerned with the idea of men pretending to be trans to peep on women in washrooms and changerooms.
Cross dressing (dressing in drag) is not the same as being trans.
i’m aware! i’m trans. my point is that many transpobes act like trans women are just that, crossdressing, in order to spy on women. which is what this comic is about.
Don’t be dense
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why do men always tell on themselves? a nude body isn't a sexual body
You know a joke is funny when the comments look the way they do
Everyone seems to have reacted like this is a trans thing, but I think it's just about a few pervy blokes in dresses having sneaked in to trick her
is that not what transphobes call us?
My impression was they viewed it as isolated instances of predatory behaviour, but even then I don't think they believe people are simply pretending to be the other gender with malicious intent, but that's simply AA negative side effects.
However I'm happy to concede I may not have a firm grasp of what transphobes think.
yeah i think your grasp of transphobic thought and rhetoric is a bit lacking; transphobes have been trying (and succeeding in a few countries, at least) to push the narrative that trans women specifically are all men masquerading as women to get access to womens spaces.
media representation of us is and has been frequently either as sexual "traps" for men (look up the trans panic defense), or men crossdressing in an attempt to voyeuristically groom women, and unfortunately even less explicit cartoons like this will be used as examples of our inherently "predatory" nature.
But they believe it's a minority problem don't they? Like, 1 in 100 might be a bloke in a dress and therefore the whole thing should be cancelled? I'm not sure any of them think literally all trans women are pretending, particularly when it gets to the point of surgery
they prefer the terms deluded or confused, which are functionally no different; and no they believe this about all trans women. to them we are all men in womens spaces.
Because that's exactly what the transphobic narrative is.
Is it? That requires you to think men are deliberately pretending and don't actually believe it. I don't think that's what they actually think
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What’s the joke?
No more woke 🦅🇺🇸