That's cool, but it still doesn't explain the bigger question of why the guy on the right can't slow down for all of 30 seconds to allow the pass to happen then get back up to speed
Ego doesn’t belong on the highway. Especially amongst grown adults. Ridiculous to think a truck driver is out there acting like a 12 year old bc another truck is dwiving fAsTah.
There is much more to it for a truck driver. If they slow down then they may not get that speed back for kilometers. Or even miles. Especially on an incline where the foot is already pinned to the floor.
Truck drivers are not permitted to lack understanding of typical highway conventions in my view. Cars can get a pass bc there are literally entire states that do not understand the left lane is different than the right lane. Looking at you West Virginia.
Having said that, I treat everyone that wants to go faster than me like they’re going to the hospital.
might be some of it but a lot of it is They don't want to slow down because then they have lost that momentum and it will take a while or maybe quite awhile to build it back up. Or if they are on an incline losing that speed may mean they have to gear down even further and slow down more to make the climb. That truck will already have his foot pinned to the floor to make the climb. Slowing down is not what you want to do.
Nor why the new cammed out trucks still have drivers jumping in front of you coming up in the left lane, so they can proceed to logjam you for ten minutes.
And sometimes the pass fails and the jerk ends up falling behind the right truck.
Did you type a reply and then delete? I've only got a sentence or so in my inbox, but it had me smiling already because it was so catty. I'd love to see the rest
Ugh, you replied but they nuked you again so I only got 1 sentence. I'd be talking about this via private message but I'm not seeing the option. What if you tried taking out the racial slurs?
Edit: lol this guy did an "I don't even CARE" and then had a whole-ass meltdown
Someone that finds humor in casual sexual harrassment, not surprising. I hope all the decent people in your life have wised up by now. Betting from your behavior and proclaimed job, no doubt whatever family you got is happy when you are gone.
Harrassing me ain't fixing none of that.
But keep playing dumb if ya want, learned it from "the best", no doubt.
I'm moving on, these words are for anyone unfortunate enough to scroll here, you're garbage I don't have energy to care about when you don't care about yourself.
So they're an asshole if they stick with the pass and an asshole if they decide they made a mistake and back off? You're kinda making it so there's no reason to care
As someone who drives a slow truck id say its most likely because it takes forever to get up to 63 mph and if you slow down to 58-59 or so its going to take ages to get back up to 63. I am a local driver so for me im never on the highway long so its no big deal, but for someone driving cross country in a slow truck I could see why when youre paid by the mile.
The main pressure against this (besides ego) is the last pass the guy on the right executed. Imagine you took too long to get past the last guy, so now you don't want to drop your speed right in front of them, because that's also kind of a dick move.
It's all down to selfishness for everyone. Everyone wants to be able to drive unhindered by anyone else and absolutely cannot stand even one second of not getting what they want. The passing trucker is selfish for not slowing down until he can pass completely. The second trucker for not allowing the pass. And the car drivers for getting pissed at not being able to do 90 every second they're on the road.
They don't want to slow down because then they have lost that momentum and it will take a while or maybe quite awhile to build it back up. Or if they are on an incline losing that speed may mean they have to gear down even further and slow down more to make the climb.
Slowing down and speeding back up uses more fuel. These guys are either paying for that fuel out of pocket or it's being tacked and they get penalized for using "too much".
Combination of some of them being jerks, some not caring anymore and some being forced to do so.
One reason is it takes trucks a long time to speed back up, probably more than 30 seconds. But beyond that, why should they slow down? They are in the right lane, they're going at a legal speed. They have no obligation to slow down so others can pass more easily. The other driver could just as easily cut his speed by 0.5 mph and probably be fine not passing, and he's the one actually holding up traffic.
Again, why don't you apply that to the trucker that's passing? The one that's actually holding up traffic?
And they're not "technically following the rules" lol. They are following the rules, period, they're doing nothing wrong, just cruising in the right lane minding their own business.
Everybody here expecting truckers to slow down when theyre being passed - i wonder whens the last time one of them did somehting to ease someone else passing them. When i overtake another "normal" car driver i see all kinds of shit people do to actively hinder me in passing them.
I like how they talk about the limitations are solely because of greed instead of the fact that without industry regulations, truckers would haul ass while popping uppers to stay awake 18+ hours a day
They're not talking about regulations on how long they can drive, they're talking about why companies voluntarily disable a temporary "governor override" that would otherwise be useful for passing another truck in a timely fashion. The word 'regulation' doesn't even appear in the post.
The greed aspect is that the governors allow the company subsidizing the fuel costs to force the truck to only operate at a supposed max efficiency window within the "powerband". Most modern engines for highway use have benn tuned to have the best long trip mpg around 60-70mph.
The companies are so cheap they'd rather force the drivers to not even accelerate hard nor exceed 70mph without a downhill.. all to save the relative pennies in fuel.
It does add up, but I have no small doubt these contributions to driving frustrations have led to many lost lives as well.
Even if it didn't save money, I'd rather not have semis going over 70 mph. That would result in accidents being more lethal. They would also be more likely due to the need for extra braking distance.
I'd rather truck drivers be allowed their own judgement for when they need to accelerate.
We have something worse than automated driving mixed with regular bad drivers. The truckers of today are very different from 20 years ago, but not as different as the cabs have gotten. Either way, they have to prove they can drive better than most people, especially if driving for a company governing the engines.
I'll take drivers licenses being more difficult to get and more public transit options over this sliding slope of nonsense.
One time I was toodling down the interstate when I saw a semi with a trailer going 80-85 in a 70 zone(for cars, trucks were supposed to go only 60) while swerving in and out of lanes like he was in a tricked out Civic.
Edit: To make more deliveries, faster? They lobbied hard for interstate speeds, and would gladly engineer faster powerband engines if allowed. What we have now is a regulatory captured field where they are simply waiting to phase the drivers out.
They only regulate so hard because there were so many accidents the regs started to tighten. Don't believe for a second they care about the drivers or any of us without being forced to.
10mph over the speed limit on a highway saves 15m every hundred miles. Meanwhile, it disproportionately increases crashes, especially when hauling 40,000-80,000 pounds. Ethics aside, purely from a risk standpoint it doesn’t make any sense. 100 truckers doing 10,000,000 miles a year, you now have several more destroyed loads, employees on disability or dead, and more lawsuits.
And how much do you think they twist this to figure the "slippage" they allow?
Because if your reasoning was genuinely aligned with the monied interests, why not force trucks to go 55 only? Then, surely the drop in load loss matters?
Or my cynical take, this is the best they can currently "game the game" by min-maxing loss and speed.
Most countries also have regulations saying trucks are not allowed in the left lane at all, ever. Big trucks shouldn’t be passing other big trucks and blocking all traffic.
All that wall of text explaining why the truck can’t go faster and no explanation for why the passing truck had to pass to begin with and couldn’t have just stayed in their fucking lane and turned down the cruise by 1mph.
I might be able to shed some light on this. You can have two trucks driving down the highway with vastly different loads and truck capabilities.
So for example you might be driving in hilly terrain with lots of ups, downs, and flats. You are catching up to a truck that is heavily loaded and takes a while to go up, but on the flats and downhills they can go as fast as you. So every time you get to an incline you have to slow down significantly or pass them. So maybe nobody is behind you, you switch lanes and start to overtake, but when you get to the top of the hill you just aren't quite past them yet. They accelerate and match your speed. Now you look like an asshole, when really the trucker in the right lane who knows he is slower should let you finish your pass.
So instead you have to either continue to try to overtake, or slow down and merge behind him. But now there is a row of cars behind him so you can't exactly slow down and just force your way in. Now you have two lanes of cars who hate you.
It's the trucker on the right who is being the dick in this situation.
Bare in mind that these vehicles accelerate and slow down very slowly. Being stuck behind a slow truck as a trucker is way more miserable for them than it is for you in a car that can quickly overtake. Imagine dealing with all the shit you normally deal with on the road except now you're driving a really heavy slow boat that responds slowly. It just makes driving way more miserable. I feel bad for truckers and how much hate they get from ignorant people.
It's a giant truck, just stay in the right lane. There's no reason, barring an accident or other emergency, to ever pass. Going a mile slower or faster isn't going to make a meaningful difference.
We're doing slogans? It's called a "truck route," therefore I'm right! Yeehaw
...and if it's got more than 1 "truck lane," the civil engineers that designed it had to explain why they needed to spend millions or billions of extra dollars on that second truck lane, way way more than it costs to build and maintain a car lane. You don't know better than they do.
I love these highly polarized arguments. I truely do.
You can either look at them as everyone is making good points but everyone is voting on the populairty of opinions biased for car drivers because there are few to no actual truckers here. It's just pro driver comments get upvotes. Comments calling for driver introspection and patience get downvotes. Then there is me. I'm probably going to get hate for this comment... but facts! :)
My own unpopular opinion but the truth. You can admit that everyone just spent more time reading and writing comments then they were delayed by truckers this year. Your time is not to damn important to slow down 5-10mph for 5 or 10 minutes.
Here's the math. Five minutes at 10mph slower is costing you slightly less then a minute. Ten whole minutes going 10mph slower is costing you litterally a one minute and 55 seconds. You just spent more time reading and writing comments.
OR! Admit that you had to slow down 15-20mph because you were f*cking speeding, lol. Truth bomb! Ouch.
Personally I have an old axiom. If you are getting that riled up driving then you are probably driving to much. Take a f-cking train. A plane. Or my personal favoriite. Ride a bike or even just an ebike. Hell even just a mororcycle on occasion changes it up and makes you more aware. What is "aware". Aware is realizing your saftey and your mortality is worth more then two f-cking minutes of time you spent tailgating a truck. Slow down. Drop back. Let the line of impatient people tailgate the truck until they can pass. It's healthier and you'll spend less time staring at the -ss end of the car in front of you. That line of tailgatoers is made up of irritable people whom drive to much just like you! Who wants to be around all those impatient people?
I like work from home and not because I get to work from home. I have to go to the office. I like WFH because the real world benefit is less people feel like they have to drive. There are less impatient mofos on the road.
Pivot. I think its why I also love snow storms. And f-cking saturdays and sunday morning. We should all take a snow day and let people whom actually have to drive do their thing on less busy roads. Then there is me. I am that ahole who spent a whopping $2.5k on a nice "expensive" mid drive ebike that costs a tiny fraction of your average car and a couple hundred dollar on fancy f-cking studded tires so I can get "first tracks" on the bike path on my blue bird powder day. And you better believe I am happy as a tap dancing Danny f-cking K because its every bit as fun as when I used to spent stupid ass shit money on lift tickets and snowboard sh-t so I could get first tracks in perfect f-cking powder at expensive ass ski resorts when I was young and foolish with my time and money.
Personally, since its my day off I am going to get up in the morning and ride my slowest f-cking bike to the f-cking gym. Cause we have fresh snow overnight and its going to be beautiful as f-ck. I could ride my ebike with studded tires i use for commuting but I am riding my fatty with 27.5x4.5 f-cking tires because its my day off and I want to both enjoy being outside in the snow and work out more then my legs cause I am an old f-cker now that I turned fifty. Age-ed gen X a-hole that I am. I need to actually "round out my fitness" and do shit like go the gym and work on my flexibility by doing yoga and stupid shit instead of just "riding my bicycle everywhere" like most people drive their car. Then I will go over to r/fatbike and post a photo so I can get some upvote karma to offset my downvotes for making unpopular comments to people whom drive to damn much just like me. Good riddence me!
Also.. I do own a car. It has 240,000 miles on it. That's not from driving to often. You can get thet many miles out of a car when instead of daily driving it you only use it when you have to for long trips. Just ask truckers. Freeway miles are easier on engines and brakes and all that shit. Did I just say that!? Yes I did! Freeway miles are the easy miles. So take a chill pill. Sit back and let the line of tailgaters behind the ahole truck driver pass. It's not worth the aggrevation. ;)
You either replied to the wrong comment or you're calling others selfish because they don't treat your business with more importance than you treat theirs
For both drivers, their financial well being is being directly affected. So why should either of them be expected to handle the situation differently? Are you in such a hurry that you can’t be to your destination a couple minutes later?
"Are you in such a hurry that you can’t be to your destination a couple minutes later?" says the trucker who clogs up the highway because they can't be at their destination a couple of minutes later. lol.
Is the absence of self-awareness a prerequisite for the job?
Dude, I’m not even kidding you but just last night I was driving back to the yard when this person got in front of me and then slowed down. Every time I tried to pass them they would speed up so I just hung out in the left lane to keep them going faster. I will also say, I’m a tow truck driver and I pick up people every day that are stranded in dangerous places on the freeway so I do kinda figure in that context that my time is more important. The sooner I get to them, the less chance for someone hitting them on the side of the road. The thing with safety is that you can’t quantify the effect because if you successfully prevent something, you’ll never know because it never happened. Maybe me getting to someone 5 seconds sooner and then picking up their car and leaving sooner has saved their life or even my own. No way to tell.
LOL, I know why you are being downvoted but you are right. Lets say you have to slow down for five or ten minutes from 75 to 65. That's 10mph for ten minutes. The real impact on your trip is one minute and 55 seconds. Of course what people are saying is they were doing 85mph and this has inconvenienced them by four minutes, lol.
Oh shit, that's a billion dollar idea! You should march into city hall and tell them their civil engineers are idiots for spending all that extra money on building and maintaining more than one truck lane. They definitely haven't thought of that
I don't mind letting truckers pass. They're the only vehicles on the road that will vacate the left lane 99% of the time when they're done passing. I'd much rather have that than someone who starts to pass the matches speed to the car next to them.
I don't mind when they actually pass; I've slowed down to let semis in so they could pass. It's the "I was gonna pass at .5 mph faster than the other truck, but then I hit a 1 degree incline, so now we're driving side by side for the next 5 minutes" that annoys me.
Personally, it's not even that which pisses me off.
It's when traffic builds behind them and people think they're fucking clever getting in the RH lane behind the slower truck and wedge in at the front of everyone stuck behind passing truck.
That's what pisses me off, mostly because on the stretches of road where this happens (fuck you SB I-5) it happens repeatedly.
I think the point is that it doesn't really help when it takes two or three minutes to pass each other. If they were cars, by then you could have passed the slow car in the passing lane on the right somewhere.
Lol. Most based comment here.
Shall I complain that there are too many comments!? LOL.
Seriously though. I have loved the comments in this thread. The wall of text is far more fun then tailgating the car in front if me and clutching my pearls... lol... sorry I meant "clutching my steering wheel" Sure I did. Wink wink.
And none of us redditors would dare speed either. ;)
Pressure from the last pass. Imagine you took too long to pass the last guy and you just pulled in front of them. Then you see the truck on the left struggling to pass. Do you slow down in front of the driver you just passed like some kind of asshole or do you hang the guy on the left out to dry like some kind of asshole
I feel guilty whenever I see cars start to stack up because a pass is taking too long. They're just normal folks who decided to take the truck route. But when I do decide to tough it out, I imagine they're a bunch of redditors and it makes me feel WAY better
Governors in trucks have passed their days of usefulness. With GPS and cameras the trucking companies can easily see which trucks are speeding. The extra speed would be very useful to truckers in situations where they have to pass and much safer than sticking out there in the passing lane for 5 minutes.
Keep our lives moving over in the right lane, and keep your slow ass out of the passing lane. Truckers are some of the dumbest people in American society.
That's cool, but it still doesn't explain the bigger question of why the guy on the right can't slow down for all of 30 seconds to allow the pass to happen then get back up to speed
10 pages of text to say, "shitty drivers"
With corporate up their ass stating F other people so we have our numbers look good.
The post said often it's ego. They just don't want to let someone else easily pass.
Ego doesn’t belong on the highway. Especially amongst grown adults. Ridiculous to think a truck driver is out there acting like a 12 year old bc another truck is dwiving fAsTah.
Car drivers pull this shit all the time too. It’s like “oh no, you’re not passing me!”
Been going 2 miles under the limit for the last 15 minutes, you see me trying to pass and all the sudden you find the gas pedal?
Sometimes these ego morons will then risk life and limb to pass you again…just to drop to their original speed.
Unfortunately, it’s common. People see the road as some sort of competition to win.
or the pass is the signal to check their speed and they notice they're driving slower than they meant to
There is much more to it for a truck driver. If they slow down then they may not get that speed back for kilometers. Or even miles. Especially on an incline where the foot is already pinned to the floor.
Tell that to the people doing 5 under in the left lane. At least the truck is attempting to pass someone
Truck drivers are not permitted to lack understanding of typical highway conventions in my view. Cars can get a pass bc there are literally entire states that do not understand the left lane is different than the right lane. Looking at you West Virginia.
Having said that, I treat everyone that wants to go faster than me like they’re going to the hospital.
NJ understands…
<glares over at NY and PA drivers>
We understand.
Those folks are not difficult to deal with - pass on the right, then get in front of them and slow down until they notice.
If you can't pass on the right, it's heavy enough traffic that you need to just accept it
It's not limited to truck drivers. I frequently see people in the right lane speed up when someone tries to pass them.
might be some of it but a lot of it is They don't want to slow down because then they have lost that momentum and it will take a while or maybe quite awhile to build it back up. Or if they are on an incline losing that speed may mean they have to gear down even further and slow down more to make the climb. That truck will already have his foot pinned to the floor to make the climb. Slowing down is not what you want to do.
Nor why the new cammed out trucks still have drivers jumping in front of you coming up in the left lane, so they can proceed to logjam you for ten minutes.
And sometimes the pass fails and the jerk ends up falling behind the right truck.
Did you type a reply and then delete? I've only got a sentence or so in my inbox, but it had me smiling already because it was so catty. I'd love to see the rest
Ugh, you replied but they nuked you again so I only got 1 sentence. I'd be talking about this via private message but I'm not seeing the option. What if you tried taking out the racial slurs?
Edit: lol this guy did an "I don't even CARE" and then had a whole-ass meltdown
This is much more important to you than me, oh well.
Well yeah, you sounded so mad =)
Says the butthurt cyberstalker.
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Someone that finds humor in casual sexual harrassment, not surprising. I hope all the decent people in your life have wised up by now. Betting from your behavior and proclaimed job, no doubt whatever family you got is happy when you are gone.
Harrassing me ain't fixing none of that.
But keep playing dumb if ya want, learned it from "the best", no doubt.
I'm moving on, these words are for anyone unfortunate enough to scroll here, you're garbage I don't have energy to care about when you don't care about yourself.
So they're an asshole if they stick with the pass and an asshole if they decide they made a mistake and back off? You're kinda making it so there's no reason to care
Ego, ignorance, apathy...pick one.
As someone who drives a slow truck id say its most likely because it takes forever to get up to 63 mph and if you slow down to 58-59 or so its going to take ages to get back up to 63. I am a local driver so for me im never on the highway long so its no big deal, but for someone driving cross country in a slow truck I could see why when youre paid by the mile.
The main pressure against this (besides ego) is the last pass the guy on the right executed. Imagine you took too long to get past the last guy, so now you don't want to drop your speed right in front of them, because that's also kind of a dick move.
It's all down to selfishness for everyone. Everyone wants to be able to drive unhindered by anyone else and absolutely cannot stand even one second of not getting what they want. The passing trucker is selfish for not slowing down until he can pass completely. The second trucker for not allowing the pass. And the car drivers for getting pissed at not being able to do 90 every second they're on the road.
They don't want to slow down because then they have lost that momentum and it will take a while or maybe quite awhile to build it back up. Or if they are on an incline losing that speed may mean they have to gear down even further and slow down more to make the climb.
It gives several different reasons, maybe try reading first next time.
Slowing down and speeding back up uses more fuel. These guys are either paying for that fuel out of pocket or it's being tacked and they get penalized for using "too much".
Combination of some of them being jerks, some not caring anymore and some being forced to do so.
One reason is it takes trucks a long time to speed back up, probably more than 30 seconds. But beyond that, why should they slow down? They are in the right lane, they're going at a legal speed. They have no obligation to slow down so others can pass more easily. The other driver could just as easily cut his speed by 0.5 mph and probably be fine not passing, and he's the one actually holding up traffic.
"why should someone be considerate of others, they're technically following the rules so they can ignore the real world effects of their actions"
Again, why don't you apply that to the trucker that's passing? The one that's actually holding up traffic?
And they're not "technically following the rules" lol. They are following the rules, period, they're doing nothing wrong, just cruising in the right lane minding their own business.
Everybody here expecting truckers to slow down when theyre being passed - i wonder whens the last time one of them did somehting to ease someone else passing them. When i overtake another "normal" car driver i see all kinds of shit people do to actively hinder me in passing them.
I help people pass me all the time. The roads here are shit and the quicker I can get you past me or I can get past you the better.
I like how they talk about the limitations are solely because of greed instead of the fact that without industry regulations, truckers would haul ass while popping uppers to stay awake 18+ hours a day
They're not talking about regulations on how long they can drive, they're talking about why companies voluntarily disable a temporary "governor override" that would otherwise be useful for passing another truck in a timely fashion. The word 'regulation' doesn't even appear in the post.
Here, at least, those only exist on trucks because of government regulations
"Here" where?
The greed aspect is that the governors allow the company subsidizing the fuel costs to force the truck to only operate at a supposed max efficiency window within the "powerband". Most modern engines for highway use have benn tuned to have the best long trip mpg around 60-70mph.
The companies are so cheap they'd rather force the drivers to not even accelerate hard nor exceed 70mph without a downhill.. all to save the relative pennies in fuel.
It does add up, but I have no small doubt these contributions to driving frustrations have led to many lost lives as well.
Even if it didn't save money, I'd rather not have semis going over 70 mph. That would result in accidents being more lethal. They would also be more likely due to the need for extra braking distance.
I'd rather truck drivers be allowed their own judgement for when they need to accelerate.
We have something worse than automated driving mixed with regular bad drivers. The truckers of today are very different from 20 years ago, but not as different as the cabs have gotten. Either way, they have to prove they can drive better than most people, especially if driving for a company governing the engines.
I'll take drivers licenses being more difficult to get and more public transit options over this sliding slope of nonsense.
One time I was toodling down the interstate when I saw a semi with a trailer going 80-85 in a 70 zone(for cars, trucks were supposed to go only 60) while swerving in and out of lanes like he was in a tricked out Civic.
Drugs are bad(mmmmmkay?), semis with trailers and physics do not work like that.
Edit: *for very long.
Yeah, I just kept the cruise on and let his crazy ass go screaming ahead.
Always a good idea with the crazies, let them go be crazy somewhere far away from me.
Way to lose that spontaneous race! That trucker made yall eat dust from your safe vehicles!
/s
Even if fuel was free, why would a company want their drivers to speed?
You serious?
Edit: To make more deliveries, faster? They lobbied hard for interstate speeds, and would gladly engineer faster powerband engines if allowed. What we have now is a regulatory captured field where they are simply waiting to phase the drivers out.
They only regulate so hard because there were so many accidents the regs started to tighten. Don't believe for a second they care about the drivers or any of us without being forced to.
10mph over the speed limit on a highway saves 15m every hundred miles. Meanwhile, it disproportionately increases crashes, especially when hauling 40,000-80,000 pounds. Ethics aside, purely from a risk standpoint it doesn’t make any sense. 100 truckers doing 10,000,000 miles a year, you now have several more destroyed loads, employees on disability or dead, and more lawsuits.
And how much do you think they twist this to figure the "slippage" they allow?
Because if your reasoning was genuinely aligned with the monied interests, why not force trucks to go 55 only? Then, surely the drop in load loss matters?
Or my cynical take, this is the best they can currently "game the game" by min-maxing loss and speed.
I think there's a big citation needed in your last post. Pretty poor assumption that lives would be saved by letting trucks go faster.
If a guy wants to pass a truck that's governed to the same speed as him, he shouldn't be passing.
Most countries also have regulations saying trucks are not allowed in the left lane at all, ever. Big trucks shouldn’t be passing other big trucks and blocking all traffic.
All that wall of text explaining why the truck can’t go faster and no explanation for why the passing truck had to pass to begin with and couldn’t have just stayed in their fucking lane and turned down the cruise by 1mph.
Well that clearly wasn’t an option in their mind.
I might be able to shed some light on this. You can have two trucks driving down the highway with vastly different loads and truck capabilities.
So for example you might be driving in hilly terrain with lots of ups, downs, and flats. You are catching up to a truck that is heavily loaded and takes a while to go up, but on the flats and downhills they can go as fast as you. So every time you get to an incline you have to slow down significantly or pass them. So maybe nobody is behind you, you switch lanes and start to overtake, but when you get to the top of the hill you just aren't quite past them yet. They accelerate and match your speed. Now you look like an asshole, when really the trucker in the right lane who knows he is slower should let you finish your pass.
So instead you have to either continue to try to overtake, or slow down and merge behind him. But now there is a row of cars behind him so you can't exactly slow down and just force your way in. Now you have two lanes of cars who hate you.
It's the trucker on the right who is being the dick in this situation.
Bare in mind that these vehicles accelerate and slow down very slowly. Being stuck behind a slow truck as a trucker is way more miserable for them than it is for you in a car that can quickly overtake. Imagine dealing with all the shit you normally deal with on the road except now you're driving a really heavy slow boat that responds slowly. It just makes driving way more miserable. I feel bad for truckers and how much hate they get from ignorant people.
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But you'll never be stuck behind someone for ten hours.
It's a giant truck, just stay in the right lane. There's no reason, barring an accident or other emergency, to ever pass. Going a mile slower or faster isn't going to make a meaningful difference.
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It's called a "passing lane", not a "fuck everyone else lane".
We're doing slogans? It's called a "truck route," therefore I'm right! Yeehaw
...and if it's got more than 1 "truck lane," the civil engineers that designed it had to explain why they needed to spend millions or billions of extra dollars on that second truck lane, way way more than it costs to build and maintain a car lane. You don't know better than they do.
No because I don’t have a wall of text of excuses for why my car can’t make a pass.
If you don't care about their time, why would they care about yours?
I love these highly polarized arguments. I truely do.
You can either look at them as everyone is making good points but everyone is voting on the populairty of opinions biased for car drivers because there are few to no actual truckers here. It's just pro driver comments get upvotes. Comments calling for driver introspection and patience get downvotes. Then there is me. I'm probably going to get hate for this comment... but facts! :)
My own unpopular opinion but the truth. You can admit that everyone just spent more time reading and writing comments then they were delayed by truckers this year. Your time is not to damn important to slow down 5-10mph for 5 or 10 minutes.
Here's the math. Five minutes at 10mph slower is costing you slightly less then a minute. Ten whole minutes going 10mph slower is costing you litterally a one minute and 55 seconds. You just spent more time reading and writing comments.
OR! Admit that you had to slow down 15-20mph because you were f*cking speeding, lol. Truth bomb! Ouch.
Personally I have an old axiom. If you are getting that riled up driving then you are probably driving to much. Take a f-cking train. A plane. Or my personal favoriite. Ride a bike or even just an ebike. Hell even just a mororcycle on occasion changes it up and makes you more aware. What is "aware". Aware is realizing your saftey and your mortality is worth more then two f-cking minutes of time you spent tailgating a truck. Slow down. Drop back. Let the line of impatient people tailgate the truck until they can pass. It's healthier and you'll spend less time staring at the -ss end of the car in front of you. That line of tailgatoers is made up of irritable people whom drive to much just like you! Who wants to be around all those impatient people?
I like work from home and not because I get to work from home. I have to go to the office. I like WFH because the real world benefit is less people feel like they have to drive. There are less impatient mofos on the road.
Pivot. I think its why I also love snow storms. And f-cking saturdays and sunday morning. We should all take a snow day and let people whom actually have to drive do their thing on less busy roads. Then there is me. I am that ahole who spent a whopping $2.5k on a nice "expensive" mid drive ebike that costs a tiny fraction of your average car and a couple hundred dollar on fancy f-cking studded tires so I can get "first tracks" on the bike path on my blue bird powder day. And you better believe I am happy as a tap dancing Danny f-cking K because its every bit as fun as when I used to spent stupid ass shit money on lift tickets and snowboard sh-t so I could get first tracks in perfect f-cking powder at expensive ass ski resorts when I was young and foolish with my time and money.
Personally, since its my day off I am going to get up in the morning and ride my slowest f-cking bike to the f-cking gym. Cause we have fresh snow overnight and its going to be beautiful as f-ck. I could ride my ebike with studded tires i use for commuting but I am riding my fatty with 27.5x4.5 f-cking tires because its my day off and I want to both enjoy being outside in the snow and work out more then my legs cause I am an old f-cker now that I turned fifty. Age-ed gen X a-hole that I am. I need to actually "round out my fitness" and do shit like go the gym and work on my flexibility by doing yoga and stupid shit instead of just "riding my bicycle everywhere" like most people drive their car. Then I will go over to r/fatbike and post a photo so I can get some upvote karma to offset my downvotes for making unpopular comments to people whom drive to damn much just like me. Good riddence me!
Also.. I do own a car. It has 240,000 miles on it. That's not from driving to often. You can get thet many miles out of a car when instead of daily driving it you only use it when you have to for long trips. Just ask truckers. Freeway miles are easier on engines and brakes and all that shit. Did I just say that!? Yes I did! Freeway miles are the easy miles. So take a chill pill. Sit back and let the line of tailgaters behind the ahole truck driver pass. It's not worth the aggrevation. ;)
This was a whole bunch of words blaming greedy corporations meanwhile either driver could just slow down a tiny bit and resolve it for everyone
They could just tell you to wait your turn. Nobody actually owes you an explanation for there being trucks in truck lanes on truck routes.
Lot of “why should I care about anyone else?” comments
You either replied to the wrong comment or you're calling others selfish because they don't treat your business with more importance than you treat theirs
For both drivers, their financial well being is being directly affected. So why should either of them be expected to handle the situation differently? Are you in such a hurry that you can’t be to your destination a couple minutes later?
"Are you in such a hurry that you can’t be to your destination a couple minutes later?" says the trucker who clogs up the highway because they can't be at their destination a couple of minutes later. lol.
Is the absence of self-awareness a prerequisite for the job?
Dude, I’m not even kidding you but just last night I was driving back to the yard when this person got in front of me and then slowed down. Every time I tried to pass them they would speed up so I just hung out in the left lane to keep them going faster. I will also say, I’m a tow truck driver and I pick up people every day that are stranded in dangerous places on the freeway so I do kinda figure in that context that my time is more important. The sooner I get to them, the less chance for someone hitting them on the side of the road. The thing with safety is that you can’t quantify the effect because if you successfully prevent something, you’ll never know because it never happened. Maybe me getting to someone 5 seconds sooner and then picking up their car and leaving sooner has saved their life or even my own. No way to tell.
LOL, I know why you are being downvoted but you are right. Lets say you have to slow down for five or ten minutes from 75 to 65. That's 10mph for ten minutes. The real impact on your trip is one minute and 55 seconds. Of course what people are saying is they were doing 85mph and this has inconvenienced them by four minutes, lol.
Yep. I just do what I gotta do. They will just have to live with it and be miserable. lol
That was a horrible read and I learned nothing. Can I have a refund?
Good explanation...but the truck on the left doing 57 m/h trying to pass the guy in the right doing 56 m/h is MADDENING.
Trucks should all be forced to use the far right lane and stay there.
This is the law in many countries and should be the law everywhere.
Oh shit, that's a billion dollar idea! You should march into city hall and tell them their civil engineers are idiots for spending all that extra money on building and maintaining more than one truck lane. They definitely haven't thought of that
Dude, calm down.
Dude. Bro. Dudebro. Malebrother. I love how good you are at detecting seriousness. You shouldn't even be doing this for free, testiclesibling
I don't mind letting truckers pass. They're the only vehicles on the road that will vacate the left lane 99% of the time when they're done passing. I'd much rather have that than someone who starts to pass the matches speed to the car next to them.
I don't mind when they actually pass; I've slowed down to let semis in so they could pass. It's the "I was gonna pass at .5 mph faster than the other truck, but then I hit a 1 degree incline, so now we're driving side by side for the next 5 minutes" that annoys me.
Personally, it's not even that which pisses me off.
It's when traffic builds behind them and people think they're fucking clever getting in the RH lane behind the slower truck and wedge in at the front of everyone stuck behind passing truck.
That's what pisses me off, mostly because on the stretches of road where this happens (fuck you SB I-5) it happens repeatedly.
I think the point is that it doesn't really help when it takes two or three minutes to pass each other. If they were cars, by then you could have passed the slow car in the passing lane on the right somewhere.
summary (without reading): money
cant arrive there 3 min late. so of course someone will overtake a slightly slower truck to not be 3min late
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Lol. Most based comment here. Shall I complain that there are too many comments!? LOL.
Seriously though. I have loved the comments in this thread. The wall of text is far more fun then tailgating the car in front if me and clutching my pearls... lol... sorry I meant "clutching my steering wheel" Sure I did. Wink wink.
And none of us redditors would dare speed either. ;)
Comments got spicy fast
Yea doesn't explain why the truckers ego doesn't allow them to let the faster truck by by slowing down, instead causing massive traffic backups.
Pressure from the last pass. Imagine you took too long to pass the last guy and you just pulled in front of them. Then you see the truck on the left struggling to pass. Do you slow down in front of the driver you just passed like some kind of asshole or do you hang the guy on the left out to dry like some kind of asshole
If they slow down they have to use more fuel to speed up again.
On long haul automobile trips I grew to dislike this behaviour. I10 I40 out west.
Elefantenrennen as the Germans call it.
I feel guilty whenever I see cars start to stack up because a pass is taking too long. They're just normal folks who decided to take the truck route. But when I do decide to tough it out, I imagine they're a bunch of redditors and it makes me feel WAY better
Governors in trucks have passed their days of usefulness. With GPS and cameras the trucking companies can easily see which trucks are speeding. The extra speed would be very useful to truckers in situations where they have to pass and much safer than sticking out there in the passing lane for 5 minutes.
I'd rather see this than being tailgated by a semi, which happens WAAAAY more often.
Or just, and hear me out, don't pass somebody if they are already going the maximum speed your truck can go.
Guy blames corporations? What the actual fuck.
Is going one (or five) mile further in an hour justification for holding back 100 cars? I don’t think so
Whole lot of entitled people that don't understand that these people are what keeps our lives moving
Sorry you had to go the speed limit for a bit bran
There's often a lower speed limit for trucks. So yeah, get the fuck out of the way.
Keep our lives moving over in the right lane, and keep your slow ass out of the passing lane. Truckers are some of the dumbest people in American society.
Lmfao yes privilege in action
Tons of Karen's up in here