Westerners are never able to differentiate between Chinese, Japanese, Korean, and Vietnamese. To them we are ALL Asian. They will NEVER be able to understand the subtle cultural difference, for another century at least.
Just want to say that I live in Finland and everyone I have talked to is mortified.
The government officials doing that bullshit are disliked by many, and far right.
That said, of course they were elected by people. So the point stands.
We are embarrassed over here. And sorry for them :(
Proportional representation in our voting system. The racists got 20,1% of the vote at the last parliamentary election. They are however disliked by basically the entire left wing and by many elements of the right. Unfortunately the right formed a government with them anyway, which is what's paining many Finnish people.
I suppose a combination of voter apathy (person does not really care so they do not vote) versus a minority who are racist or xenophobic and passionate (for example a lot of people have thoughts about refugees since e.g. 2015) and those with strong opinions are more likely to vote. Finland is also in an economic downturn now, with 10% unemployment. Stupid folk go with foreigners as an easy scapegoat.
Others may think that the system is so corrupt that there is little point.
Also I think one of those idiots is an MEP (minister of European parliament) and they aren't elected by popular vote at all.
Why do the stupid slanted eyes thing? I have no fucking idea how a person could do that end not cringe about their own behaviour for the rest of their lives.
Anyway, it isn't to justify. I just wanted to say that these fuckos do not represent Finland at large even if it may seem that way.
You're free to judge and disagree and that's fine. Even boycott Finland. I just wanted to say it đ
can't boycott a country you never intend to go to...i think most are in this boat.
It's not just Finland, most whites are like them, they just aren't stupid enough to act it out in public. Asians acting all shocked shows they romanticize whities.
I just asked chat GPT, here's the following products you can boycott from Finland:
Electronics:
Nokia
Game company:
Supercell owns Clash of Clans, Clash Royale
Rovio owns Angry Bird
Daily tools & cloth brand:
Fiskars(scissors)
Marimekko(clothes)
Arabia(tableware)
Fazer(candy)
Iittala(ceramic tableware)
Airline:
Finnair
There are many more products and brands and companies from Finland to boycott, but they're mostly Business to Business, not Business to Consumer, so you as a consumer, you have limited items to boycott from, as Finland is a small country with small population and doesn't have much day to day products and services in our day to day life in North America and Asia.
Most of their export goods go to Europe, the major trade partner in Asia is China, so Chinese government and Chinese consumers need to take actions or Finland suffers with no consequences and they'd do it again.
So far only Japanese government expresses their concern to Finland's behavior, despite the Finland prime minister apologized to Asian countries, Japan government is the only one that still pressing Finland so far.
I expect more Asian countries would join Japan too, and more Asians in Asia and oversea boycott their products and services.
I, for one, think this is an undesirable battle to pick. Many of us are from the anglosphere and aren't familiar at all with the sociopolitical landscape of Finland; not only figuring out the perpetrators and their allies, but also if they can be economically impacted is pretty daunting, more so if attempting larger organized action.
Supporting tourism boycotts, diaspora who live in Finland, and the people who are calling them out may be the extent of contributions for most of us here, unless circumstances allow greater involvement. I don't even think most people use any of these products provided by ChatGPT. Still, nice information and news to know about this, will try to do what I can.
We have to boycott Finland to show that we are not passive in the face of racism.
A boycott is a legitimate and often the only way asian people can meaningfully resist and make it clear that racist behavior will not be tolerated.
Calling Finland a âshitholeâ is funny coming from an American. Weâre not that different, but if thereâs one clear difference between Asians here in Europe and Asians in the U.S.It's ego,Asian Americansâ egos are significantly bigger. Finland ranks higher than the United States in nearly every quality-of-life metric: higher taxes, yes, but they actually pay for healthcare, education, public services, and real workâlife balance instead of forcing people into lifelong debt. Racism here barely registers compared to how bad it is over there. And unlike the U.S., Finland doesnât export its culture wars, politics, and identity issues to the rest of the world through cultural imperialism. At least our country also isnât run by Epstein / Eyes Wide Shutâadjacent elite circles.
Was there recently and have to say it was by far the most boring place Iâve ever been to lol I was there for just two days and I was literally wanting to leave so bad on the second like I couldnât find anything to do. Plenty of much better countries nearby to visit like Norway, Poland, or Iceland.
Calling a boycott of Finland âtoo extremeâ ignores the fact that systemic racism doesnât change without real consequences.
When politicians face no meaningful backlash, history shows they donât reflect or reformâpressure like a boycott is often the only language power actually responds to.
A significant chunk of their parliament rallied around her by mimicking the exact thing she did. If people whose job it is to represent a country can do that, what do you think the average guy on the street is going to be like?
Not to mention the huge amount of Finnish people online defending, downplaying, or justifying with the typical âwell Asians are the most racist, so they deserve it!â bullshit. Had no opinion of Finland before, but this ordeal seems to have shown the character of the people there. Fuck them, really hope Asian people stop traveling there.
Four people. Four. They're all part of an alt-right party, who usually lose elections, and all of Finland is enraged at them. Fuck off with your lies. I wonder what your agenda is?
You don't really know a lot about Nordic political demographics, do you? About how every country up here has a village idiot party that pulls 20-30% of the national vote and is basically a smorgasbord of the worst racist trash imaginable? Then on top of that there's normally another 20-30% of the country who are largely fine with that kind of racism, as long as it's done discretely?
You guys can decide to do what you want. First guy posts a link that equals less than 25%. Now itâs a significant part. Either way, unless youâre going to meet parliament, itâs a boycott for nothing.
Downvote all you want, just saying I went there, no issues, nice people, didnât go to parliament.
I'm thankful for Asians like you because in the upcoming war america will declare against china, you will volunteer to go into the showers first as the test subject for the rest of us XD
It's true if when they go low, and we go high, Asians lose out. Reciprocity is necessary, but it should be a case-by-case decision, not an automatic mirroring of what the other does, simply for reasons of efficacy.
It's not one person. It's a huge chunk of their government, elected by a huge chunk of Finns. How big exactly? The last estimate I heard for this faction of government was...20%. More. 46 out of 200 parliament seats. That's an insane number of people who practice and support open racism against Asians.
Everyone generalizes, some just have more power to influence society with them. I'll rather trust Finnish people to correct their own public perception and support whoever lives in Finland, since the relationship between many of us and them is pretty tenuous.
Westerners are never able to differentiate between Chinese, Japanese, Korean, and Vietnamese. To them we are ALL Asian. They will NEVER be able to understand the subtle cultural difference, for another century at least.
Why are you acting like you care about anti-Asian racism when your username literally mocks Asian names?
Finland natives kinda look Asian though.
they're a haplogroup that literally came from East Asia, they have a genetic range of 8%-30% Asian but Eurocentrists dont want to admit it.
Their language is derived from Uralic/Siberian languages and has some mongolian loanwords. They are literally eurasian.
So does Russia
Literally đđ
Just want to say that I live in Finland and everyone I have talked to is mortified. The government officials doing that bullshit are disliked by many, and far right. That said, of course they were elected by people. So the point stands.
We are embarrassed over here. And sorry for them :(
If they are disliked by many like you claim, then how did they even get elected in the first place?
i'm from same country as her and for your question,i think it's just simply because of the ignorance
Proportional representation in our voting system. The racists got 20,1% of the vote at the last parliamentary election. They are however disliked by basically the entire left wing and by many elements of the right. Unfortunately the right formed a government with them anyway, which is what's paining many Finnish people.
let them know
I suppose a combination of voter apathy (person does not really care so they do not vote) versus a minority who are racist or xenophobic and passionate (for example a lot of people have thoughts about refugees since e.g. 2015) and those with strong opinions are more likely to vote. Finland is also in an economic downturn now, with 10% unemployment. Stupid folk go with foreigners as an easy scapegoat.
Others may think that the system is so corrupt that there is little point.
Also I think one of those idiots is an MEP (minister of European parliament) and they aren't elected by popular vote at all.
Why do the stupid slanted eyes thing? I have no fucking idea how a person could do that end not cringe about their own behaviour for the rest of their lives.
Anyway, it isn't to justify. I just wanted to say that these fuckos do not represent Finland at large even if it may seem that way.
You're free to judge and disagree and that's fine. Even boycott Finland. I just wanted to say it đ
Thanks for the insight!
Bro, your username is also kinda racist towards asians :D
can't boycott a country you never intend to go to...i think most are in this boat.
It's not just Finland, most whites are like them, they just aren't stupid enough to act it out in public. Asians acting all shocked shows they romanticize whities.
There needs to be addressing in Asia for romanticizing whiteness in Asia , self love should be prioritize and golden skin should be number 1 in Asia .
I honestly can't come up with any other reasons to go to Finland as a tourist other than the natural environment.
Driver training. Finland produces some of the best rally drivers
group b racers were is perfect example of it
I just asked chat GPT, here's the following products you can boycott from Finland:
Electronics:
Nokia
Game company:
Supercell owns Clash of Clans, Clash Royale
Rovio owns Angry Bird
Daily tools & cloth brand:
Fiskars(scissors)
Marimekko(clothes)
Arabia(tableware)
Fazer(candy)
Iittala(ceramic tableware)
Airline:
Finnair
There are many more products and brands and companies from Finland to boycott, but they're mostly Business to Business, not Business to Consumer, so you as a consumer, you have limited items to boycott from, as Finland is a small country with small population and doesn't have much day to day products and services in our day to day life in North America and Asia.
Most of their export goods go to Europe, the major trade partner in Asia is China, so Chinese government and Chinese consumers need to take actions or Finland suffers with no consequences and they'd do it again.
So far only Japanese government expresses their concern to Finland's behavior, despite the Finland prime minister apologized to Asian countries, Japan government is the only one that still pressing Finland so far.
I expect more Asian countries would join Japan too, and more Asians in Asia and oversea boycott their products and services.
I, for one, think this is an undesirable battle to pick. Many of us are from the anglosphere and aren't familiar at all with the sociopolitical landscape of Finland; not only figuring out the perpetrators and their allies, but also if they can be economically impacted is pretty daunting, more so if attempting larger organized action.
Supporting tourism boycotts, diaspora who live in Finland, and the people who are calling them out may be the extent of contributions for most of us here, unless circumstances allow greater involvement. I don't even think most people use any of these products provided by ChatGPT. Still, nice information and news to know about this, will try to do what I can.
I'm surprised chatgpt answered your question. Usually when it senses you are anti white it will refuse to answer
You don't ask it like you're anti-white, you simply ask if you want to boycott, what's the exporting items you can boycott as an individual.
And this is not anti-white, this is punish racists.
We have to boycott Finland to show that we are not passive in the face of racism. A boycott is a legitimate and often the only way asian people can meaningfully resist and make it clear that racist behavior will not be tolerated.
Never had any interest in going to that shithole anyways
Calling Finland a âshitholeâ is funny coming from an American. Weâre not that different, but if thereâs one clear difference between Asians here in Europe and Asians in the U.S.It's ego,Asian Americansâ egos are significantly bigger. Finland ranks higher than the United States in nearly every quality-of-life metric: higher taxes, yes, but they actually pay for healthcare, education, public services, and real workâlife balance instead of forcing people into lifelong debt. Racism here barely registers compared to how bad it is over there. And unlike the U.S., Finland doesnât export its culture wars, politics, and identity issues to the rest of the world through cultural imperialism. At least our country also isnât run by Epstein / Eyes Wide Shutâadjacent elite circles.
Frozen shithole.
I'd go there to liberate the SĂĄmi. That's about it.
Was there recently and have to say it was by far the most boring place Iâve ever been to lol I was there for just two days and I was literally wanting to leave so bad on the second like I couldnât find anything to do. Plenty of much better countries nearby to visit like Norway, Poland, or Iceland.
For work, or do you often voluntarily give your Asian money to anti-Asian racists?
Why? What did they do?
Some previous discussions about it: 1 2
Far right Finnish politicians were making slanted eye gestures on social media last week.
Wondering the same thing
We already donât interact with them lol
Honestly didn't even know Finland was on anyone's bucket list to begin with
Finland was a very popular tourist destination for East Asians prior to the Ukraine-Russia war due to proximity and cheap flights
https://english.news.cn/20230614/01cf7f3f018749a2941e331f8b306da4/c.html
If it was Iceland then yeah we might be in trouble but Finland? đ. Whatâs there?
We really shouldn't be giving our money to any of them.
I don't even know how to boycott. What am I buying from Finland?
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Ah you are one of those pick me Asians first to walk into the showers XD
Calling a boycott of Finland âtoo extremeâ ignores the fact that systemic racism doesnât change without real consequences. When politicians face no meaningful backlash, history shows they donât reflect or reformâpressure like a boycott is often the only language power actually responds to.
A significant chunk of their parliament rallied around her by mimicking the exact thing she did. If people whose job it is to represent a country can do that, what do you think the average guy on the street is going to be like?
Not to mention the huge amount of Finnish people online defending, downplaying, or justifying with the typical âwell Asians are the most racist, so they deserve it!â bullshit. Had no opinion of Finland before, but this ordeal seems to have shown the character of the people there. Fuck them, really hope Asian people stop traveling there.
Four people. Four. They're all part of an alt-right party, who usually lose elections, and all of Finland is enraged at them. Fuck off with your lies. I wonder what your agenda is?
You don't really know a lot about Nordic political demographics, do you? About how every country up here has a village idiot party that pulls 20-30% of the national vote and is basically a smorgasbord of the worst racist trash imaginable? Then on top of that there's normally another 20-30% of the country who are largely fine with that kind of racism, as long as it's done discretely?
Why use the F word? Sounds like you are pressed. Are you what a white liberal fin is like? XD
You guys can decide to do what you want. First guy posts a link that equals less than 25%. Now itâs a significant part. Either way, unless youâre going to meet parliament, itâs a boycott for nothing.
Downvote all you want, just saying I went there, no issues, nice people, didnât go to parliament.
I'm thankful for Asians like you because in the upcoming war america will declare against china, you will volunteer to go into the showers first as the test subject for the rest of us XD
Asians get judged as a monolith so we can't judge YTs the same way?
It's true if when they go low, and we go high, Asians lose out. Reciprocity is necessary, but it should be a case-by-case decision, not an automatic mirroring of what the other does, simply for reasons of efficacy.
It wasnât just Ms Finland. Members of the Finnish government also did the same thing
It's not one person. It's a huge chunk of their government, elected by a huge chunk of Finns. How big exactly? The last estimate I heard for this faction of government was...20%. More. 46 out of 200 parliament seats. That's an insane number of people who practice and support open racism against Asians.
So 25% of parliament. Hate to tell you, thereâs racism everywhere. Youâre going to have to boycott the world buddy.
That's what I'm saying. Most Asian children aren't born with the assumption that most of the world is racist toward them. They are wrong.
I'm convinced that practically every White person sees nothing of us except our eyes. The nice ones just keep it to themselves.
That's why you should boycott them all and seek asymmetric avenues of attack.
just like u generalize white people, they generalize u and me. like are u not able to see the bigger picture ugh honestly kinda dummy
False equivalence. Whites have the privilege of being seen as individuals more than any colored people.
the way you generalize whites is not a good example for that supposed phenomenon!
Everyone generalizes, some just have more power to influence society with them. I'll rather trust Finnish people to correct their own public perception and support whoever lives in Finland, since the relationship between many of us and them is pretty tenuous.