The figures you've given suggest there's actually less water than expected.
If I had a dollar for every time somebody was whinging about the cost of living or the state of the economy but their argument was based on year 3 maths that they failed, I'd have enough money to solve the cost of living crisis.
Yeah he did 133/292... and people will just assume it's correct without checking and react. Look at most of the comments. Typical facebook boomer posting.
Same people that
Complained in math class that they would never need that.
They also frequently complain on Facebook that they were never taught something in school that was taught in school.
Because getting my calculations incorrect means I'm a boomer? ..when I'm not.
Because only boomers make mistakes?
Because you've never made a mistake nor ever used the delete key on your keyboard?
Because your so perfect and everyone else is shit?
It's not a typical boomer posting because its not from a boomer but you are a typical redditor commenter that assumes and labels incorrectly because you are incapable of anything beyond applying labels to people.
You stereo type others whilst being a walking stereo type ..make it make sense.
There seems to be a real disconnect in the comments about how getting some maths wrong means you lost. Lost? like there is some sort of competition with winners and losers?
I was highlighting a high water to Tuna ratio and though my maths were not accurate, at actual 36% water, its still a high ratio and sharing this info may help people make a more informed decision about which brand of Tuna to buy.
Just a quick question: Are you from Melbourne?
I ask because I lived in Melbourne for 5 years and found them extremely competitive with this black and white winner or looser and no middle ground mentality. They see everything as a competition.
No. Being completely wrong about the math literally makes their argument invalid. They are actually getting 20g more tuna and less water than advertised.
Highlighting a high water ratio that they purposely put it in a can the same size of other brands that have a lower water to fish ratio invalidates nothing. Getting math wrong doesn't change this fact.
Tiny small print on the bottom of the label on a can on the bottom shelf of the supermarket that gets read by no one is not advertising.
Thank you ..and the puritanical judgementalists down vote you.
Reddit is full of people imposing strict principles on others, while exempting themselves. Reddit is a cesspit of moral hypocrisy.
I stopped making posts on reddit for this very reason, then I thought "why should the rational people of reddit potentially miss out on things I notice because of the moral hypocrits?"
Reddit is full of people imposing strict principles on others, while exempting themselves. Reddit is a cesspit of moral hypocrisy.
Well at least you know why you're here, hey.
I stopped making posts on reddit for this very reason, then I thought "why should the rational people of reddit potentially miss out on things I notice because of the moral hypocrits?"
Oh thank heavens you changed your mind and decided to start posting your completely-incorrect BS, particularly when it's based on and laden with as much moral outrage backing your incorrect information as possible!
Arguments are best based on facts. If you can't discern a fact then you should stop positing and posting these arguments.
What principles am I imposing on others that I am exempting myself from? Back up your accusations.
The fact is there is a higher ratio of water to Tuna than your average customer would ever know, so the reason for posting it to benefit others still stands.
My math being out means the amount isn't as much as I first thought, but the principle still stands.
Its a tin of tuna and water, that's it ..and people in the group like you have to make everything so personal ..just because of a math mistake.
Lets not lose sight that If I wasn't being attacked by morons, I wouldn't be defending against morons.
You're still just in a tizz trying to defend the fact you started the attack. Stop.
Lets not lose sight that If I wasn't being attacked by morons, I wouldn't be defending against morons.
You've crossed a line from incorrect to abusive. Calling someone's position moronic is one thing, but calling someone a moron is crossing a line and starting to break harassment rules.
Calm yourself. If you need to go away for a short period to do that then do so, but the fact is the greatest service you can do to yourself right now is simply to stop.
Now, last time I wished you luck in your future endeavours. This time I'll just wish you to leave me alone. Stop biting at my ankles like an ill-disciplined terrier.
Calling morons morons isn't abusive its stating a fact. I have crossed no line. A moron takes an adult discussion and turns it into attacks about the person who started the discussion.
Harassment is following/chasing someone and not the defending of yourself against aspersions. I have chased no one, I stand here and defend.
Your whole posting is manipulative and demanding. You are the one in the wrong not me.
You come at me, I defend against your words and you claim to be a victim of harassment, that I'm biting at your ankles and being ill disciplinedm, when you have just done that to me.
Don't attack me and I won't defend, simple
You dismissed it when I said "Reddit is full of people imposing strict principles on others, while exempting themselves. Reddit is a cesspit of moral hypocrisy."
And here you are, trying to impose strict principles upon me ..whilst exempting yourself from them.
Your strategic outrage to silence has no credit at this store.
In addition to the other great replies here, you cannot simply divide the weight of the entire contents of the can and split the cost proportionately accross the weight and state that you've bought $1.33 of water.
That's like buying a Ferrari and ripping the plastic cover off the entertainment screen, weighing it and then confidently stating "I just paid $500 for a piece of plastic to protect the entertainment screen. I'M sO mAD RarRR"
Because noticing one brand of Tuna has its contents floating where another brand is tightly packed so wanting to find out why, has nothing to do with boredom and everything to do with seeking answers. Sharing shady practices with my fellow Australians on reddit to help them make better financial choices is boredom how?
Because making a mistake with my math changes anything about the fact that the tin still has a high water to Tuna ratio?
Have you ever read the small print on a tin of tuna? The label was only read after it was purchased and after I opened it and found tuna floating, not stuffed into the tin.
Eliciting something to have more contents by putting it in an oversized package and filling the space with a low value substance isn't illegal, but its shady.
Because noticing one brand of Tuna has its contents floating where another brand is tightly packed so wanting to find out why, has nothing to do with boredom and everything to do with seeking answers. Sharing shady practices with my fellow Australians on reddit to help them make better financial choices is boredom how?
Yeah.. I thought the same ..then I've been shown my math was incorrect, my bad. It still stands though that this brand has a high water to Tuna ratio that the public should be aware of.
Tbh, from the sketchy shit I've seen going on with things like this over the years, I think consumer affairs are not as strict as they make out themselves out to be ..but that's just my opinion.
The public are aware. The brand makes it very clear that the tuna is in spring water. In addition to being included on the product's name, it's clear from the ingredients list. You can also get a pretty good idea of the liquid contents by just lightly shaking the can.
We are aware though. The can states it's 36% water. Your calculation of the amount of water only gives ~32%. So it's actually LESS water in a can than you're telling us
I got my math wrong, it turns out its 69% tuna taking a 31% saline bath. Opening the tin and seeing the Tuna floating is what spurred me to pull out the scales and check the ratio.
Consistency wise, the SAFCOL has a better texture than Woolworths own. The Woolworths own comes across as what wood shavings are to prime timber.
I'm getting back into Tuna from decades away from it and going up the brands to find a balance of good enough at a decent price point. The floating in the tin SAFOL is what spurred my posting.
Spring water and brined tuna both have some culinary uses for which tuna in oil is inappropriate.
Just buy this instead
Is kind of an annoying response to somebody raising an issue with product labelling and expected purchases.
That said, OP's math is wrong and they've calculated the water as a percent of the amount of tuna, not as a percent of the total weight of the product. There's actually LESS water than labelled on the packaging.
...im kinda afraid to ask what dishes spring/brined tuna is better for. Because I just smack that sirena oiled stuff into everything, and now I'm cringing to think I've probably done it wrong (and hopefully haven't shared a dish with anyone).
The bechamel sauce should be finely balanced so as not to be greasy or oily. Adding a large amount of oil with the tuna can disrupt it and change the flavour, texture and mouthfeel of the dish.
It's also important in any scenario where the tuna's ability to absorb and hold flavours is important - like a lot of lighter Japanese dishes, some types of salads and so on
That said, don't be too worried - there's no "wrong answers" when cooking, you'll just get something else and if you enjoy eating it then that's great: you didn't make a mistake, you tweaked the recipe.
You're a champ, tysm. I was strictly vegetarian for about 15 years so it's only in the past 4? years that I've started cooking with more than vegetables. I have a great vegetarian repertoire and very lacking meat one (which doesn't bother me too much, I actually can't eat a lot now without feeling a bit queasy - like my gut biome just nopes that stuff out, even if I'm absolutely craving it).
All that to say - tuna mornay isnt something I've ever had and now I'm really excited to try! But will probably start with the Japanese salads because the heat is killing me here. Either way, Im so happy to try some non-oily tuna meals - ty!
"like my gut biome just nopes that stuff out, even if I'm absolutely craving it)."
Yes your right. Your biome needs consistant meat intake for a good 3-4 weeks to grow new versions of itself to better handle meat. I had the same with decades away from dairy, I reintroducing it and it wreaked havoc on my guts for the first month or so.
Ah.. that's where my numbers went wrong. Other comments confirmed I was wrong but not where I went wrong, thanks for the breakdown.
I only read the tiny small print at the bottom of the label after I had pulled the scales out and checked the water weight. What got me onto this was opening the tin and seeing the Tuna floating rather than being packed in tight like other brands.
Because thinking I'm wanting a lower ratio water to Tuna means I want dry tuna?
I don't want dry tuna, but if it means I'm not getting ripped off, give me dry tuna ...and I can add my own water.
Sirena is the GOAT, but if you’re into chilli tuna ALDI triple chilli is the bomb, and it’s half the price. Chunk tuna as well, not that flaked bullshit that John West puts out.
I stated in brackets ...just for commenters like you ..but if I don't state molecular weights and mass spectrometry results then people like you are not happy are you?
Factor in that this is Social Media and not Scientific Explorer Monthly magazine.
I’m not asking for percentages, do a mass spec or even conduct a volumetric analysis, I’m simply stating that water is also a key percentage of the tuna that you could also factor in too. When you say ‘it’s actually 45% water, you’re making a statement of fact. However your statement is wrong because you haven’t calculated all the water content.
I said I hadn't squeezed it which acknowledges my opinion doesn't factor in the entire water content. But still you said what you did. You were being pedantic.
I addressed you being pedantic and you call it having attitude and being arrogant.
You then arrogantly call me an arrogant boomer, lol.
If your going to label people at least get the labels correct ..or better still, stop labeling people ..and you won't get the labels wrong.
My due diligence doesn't extend to weighing the amount of water in a can of tuna, although I'm probably going overboard with my gatekeeping of energy usage within the home. For a car purchase I'd be definitely doing my best to get a deal.
The issue is the size of the tin and stated weight compared to Tuna amount making for a high water to Tuna ratio, making it misleading to the buyer.
Who has the time to find out what brand is best value for money? Someone who has intelligence and understands investment of time to save money.
It took me as long to weigh it as it did for you to make your post that attempts to belittle me (it didn't work). My time will save me money, your post saved you nothing ..but cost you time. I invested my time, you wasted your time ..and you think your of superior intellect :D
It seems you don't understand the concept of sharing information to help others make informed decisions on their purchases. Do you understand the concept of helping others ..or just the concept of trying to belittle to make up for your own life's inadequacies?
When I was young I did bodybuilding, 3 tins of Tuna 5 days a week for 7 years ..and then couldn't even smell it without gagging. Tuna overload. Its taken me over a decade to be able to try it again ..and why I'm now trying out every brand for value for money.
Discounting the % / ratio argument, with no scientific evidence, I swear you get more tuna in a Safcol tin if you pick "in Springwater" than you do if it's "in oil."
I got my original maths wrong, its 36% not 45% water ..still a really shitty ratio though. What spurred me to measure was opening the tin and seeing the Tuna floating.
Comparing labels, the oil one claims the same percentage of Tuna as the spring water ..but: Is that percentage by weight or by volume? Were not told.
Look at it this way, when the cost of a lot of other fish are closer to the $50 per kilogram mark, at $4.65 per 292g you are enjoying your tuna at $15.92kg.
Focus your negativity elsewhere, this certainly isn’t worth it 😁
People here are not rich assholes who are laughing at you for being bad at maths, they just wanna be fair so when companies are actually scamming consumers we have the right to call them out
292g/425g=68.7% tuna. 31.3% of the can is water. You’re not paying $1.45 for tinned water, you’re paying for a tin with tuna that is in spring water - which is the healthier alternative to oil or brine.
I noticed for a time that coles was soaking the ginger to increase its sales weight ..at $29 a kilo. Soaking it is obvious as it sheds its skin ..and that they stopped doing it tells me the public knows their ginger and stopped buying it :) ..I love it when the public gives the middle finger to scammy practices.
The reason from my posting still stands that your not getting as much tuna as you think you are because they purposely miss lead you by putting it in a bigger tin and filling it with a significant amount of water. Who reads tiny small print on a can sitting on the bottom shelf?
My numbers were off but its still shady practice that I've highlighted to better inform buyers.
The Tuna was from Thailand ..so your crazy rantings ..sort of ..in a way, sort of, could apply, lol ...but yeah, nah.. bit of a bonkers statement that one.
This guy understands wording manipulation to protect and push an agenda^ :)
Some facts that every citizen should know:
Every aspect of law is the word of the law, the words used in law and that its the lawyers job to pick apart words, to weaken the oppositions words and win. The job of the lawyer is to be a professional word pick apart arguer.
If a law stands in your way, change the wording and the law doesn't apply ..and is why Trump changed the name of the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America ..so any laws applying to it (oil drilling, etc) no longer apply ..because they apply to the Gulf of Mexico, not the Gulf of America.
During a world wide landmine ban, the British government reclassified the Claymore mine ..so it was no longer a landmine so not part of the ban and they could keep on using it. It's all in the naming, the word(s).
Observe the government changing existing wording/naming that at the time seems benign and you will spot their manipulation. The last time I witnessed this was the changing of "My gov ID" to "My ID" ..to distance its association with gov surveillance and make it seem more benign than it actually is. ..to make you more likely to sign up for it.
I used to work with a guy who would bring a salad sandwich to work for lunch and then open a small can of tuna to add to it. I read the label on the can and laughed out loud and when he asked why I laughed I said the cat food that my wife buys for our cat contains twice as much tuna as this does. He didn’t believe me so the next day I brought an empty cat food can and showed him, his can contained 45% tuna and the cat food contained 95% tuna. He was instantly hit with the realisation that his wife was feeding her cat better than she was feeding him.
They stated that you aren't meant to notice that, that being that the tin is half water according to your post. So the rest of the comment talking about how the label is meant to distract you from the contents of the tin is lacking any foundation, the tin has exactly what it says it has, no distraction nessecary
Actually now you mention it, my attention was drawn to how much label real estate was trying to convince me of its honest intentions ..so much that it made me suspicious :)
You also see the bigger picture of manipulation ..unlike those that have down voted you. The blind ridiculing those that see..
After spending some time responding to all the comments and observing some of them with my life long hobby of cultural anthropology and human psychology observed and learned across more than 10+ countries/cultures; who would have ever thought I would learn so much about Australians who frequent reddit by making a posting about the contents of a tin of Tuna.. ..
133/425 is 31.3% where did you get 45% from?
The figures you've given suggest there's actually less water than expected.
If I had a dollar for every time somebody was whinging about the cost of living or the state of the economy but their argument was based on year 3 maths that they failed, I'd have enough money to solve the cost of living crisis.
Yeah he did 133/292... and people will just assume it's correct without checking and react. Look at most of the comments. Typical facebook boomer posting.
Unfortunately when you read the comments you’re correct.
Same people that Complained in math class that they would never need that. They also frequently complain on Facebook that they were never taught something in school that was taught in school.
I never complained about any of that ...and like many people I don't do the math of every social media posting that has math in it.
Not doing the math of every posting doesn't elicit people are that person you claim them to be.
Yet here you are being wrong with what could be an elementary school math problem.
Because getting my calculations incorrect means I'm a boomer? ..when I'm not.
Because only boomers make mistakes?
Because you've never made a mistake nor ever used the delete key on your keyboard?
Because your so perfect and everyone else is shit?
It's not a typical boomer posting because its not from a boomer but you are a typical redditor commenter that assumes and labels incorrectly because you are incapable of anything beyond applying labels to people.
You stereo type others whilst being a walking stereo type ..make it make sense.
Just take the L and move on my man
Take the L? There is no L to take.
There seems to be a real disconnect in the comments about how getting some maths wrong means you lost. Lost? like there is some sort of competition with winners and losers?
I was highlighting a high water to Tuna ratio and though my maths were not accurate, at actual 36% water, its still a high ratio and sharing this info may help people make a more informed decision about which brand of Tuna to buy.
Just a quick question: Are you from Melbourne?
I ask because I lived in Melbourne for 5 years and found them extremely competitive with this black and white winner or looser and no middle ground mentality. They see everything as a competition.
Hard out logic and rational reasoning: shares dumbass take on how he thinks everyone from Melbourne behaves
I'm obsessed with you
This is hilarious, this is why confirming before you post on the internet is important, otherwise you look like an idiot..
“your paying” in the OP tells you all you need to know
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Did you? Do you cross reference and fact check my incorrect numbers? Berating others for something you didn't do?
He didn’t squeeze it, might be a bit more with that. Well done.
This, but does tuna water weigh the same as fresh water.
A 3rd of a tin thats dedicated to water is still a rip off. Just because they've made a small math mistake doesn't make their argument invalid.
All the best in getting canned tuna with no water or oil. 🤢
Yep I’m sure that would taste absolutely delicious. Nothing like bone dry, dehydrated tuna.
Probably something astronauts would love as they reheated it in the ISS microwave..
Because your ridiculous comment attempts to ridicule my rational posting?
Its not about water or not water, rather highlighting the ratio.
Your posting isn’t rational when you’re using incorrect numbers and then crash out when people call you out.
Safcol do tuna pouches that don't require draining. When they're on sale they work out cheaper per 100grams of actual product than any cans.
I like your style :D
It's not about water or not water, rather highlighting the ratio.
OK, but you’ve calculated the ratio wrongly in any case?
And it’s what people expect?
When I buy this category of product there’s an expectation of loss as part of the product presentation/preservation.
If your point was the ratio of one brand to another brand was very different that might be something..
No. Being completely wrong about the math literally makes their argument invalid. They are actually getting 20g more tuna and less water than advertised.
Highlighting a high water ratio that they purposely put it in a can the same size of other brands that have a lower water to fish ratio invalidates nothing. Getting math wrong doesn't change this fact.
Tiny small print on the bottom of the label on a can on the bottom shelf of the supermarket that gets read by no one is not advertising.
Thank you ..and the puritanical judgementalists down vote you.
Reddit is full of people imposing strict principles on others, while exempting themselves. Reddit is a cesspit of moral hypocrisy.
I stopped making posts on reddit for this very reason, then I thought "why should the rational people of reddit potentially miss out on things I notice because of the moral hypocrits?"
Well at least you know why you're here, hey.
Oh thank heavens you changed your mind and decided to start posting your completely-incorrect BS, particularly when it's based on and laden with as much moral outrage backing your incorrect information as possible!
Arguments are best based on facts. If you can't discern a fact then you should stop positing and posting these arguments.
"Well at least you know why you're here, hey."
What principles am I imposing on others that I am exempting myself from? Back up your accusations.
The fact is there is a higher ratio of water to Tuna than your average customer would ever know, so the reason for posting it to benefit others still stands.
My math being out means the amount isn't as much as I first thought, but the principle still stands.
Its a tin of tuna and water, that's it ..and people in the group like you have to make everything so personal ..just because of a math mistake.
Lets not lose sight that If I wasn't being attacked by morons, I wouldn't be defending against morons.
You're still just in a tizz trying to defend the fact you started the attack. Stop.
You've crossed a line from incorrect to abusive. Calling someone's position moronic is one thing, but calling someone a moron is crossing a line and starting to break harassment rules.
Calm yourself. If you need to go away for a short period to do that then do so, but the fact is the greatest service you can do to yourself right now is simply to stop.
Now, last time I wished you luck in your future endeavours. This time I'll just wish you to leave me alone. Stop biting at my ankles like an ill-disciplined terrier.
Calling morons morons isn't abusive its stating a fact. I have crossed no line. A moron takes an adult discussion and turns it into attacks about the person who started the discussion.
Harassment is following/chasing someone and not the defending of yourself against aspersions. I have chased no one, I stand here and defend.
Your whole posting is manipulative and demanding. You are the one in the wrong not me.
You come at me, I defend against your words and you claim to be a victim of harassment, that I'm biting at your ankles and being ill disciplinedm, when you have just done that to me.
Don't attack me and I won't defend, simple
You dismissed it when I said "Reddit is full of people imposing strict principles on others, while exempting themselves. Reddit is a cesspit of moral hypocrisy."
And here you are, trying to impose strict principles upon me ..whilst exempting yourself from them.
Your strategic outrage to silence has no credit at this store.
In addition to the other great replies here, you cannot simply divide the weight of the entire contents of the can and split the cost proportionately accross the weight and state that you've bought $1.33 of water.
That's like buying a Ferrari and ripping the plastic cover off the entertainment screen, weighing it and then confidently stating "I just paid $500 for a piece of plastic to protect the entertainment screen. I'M sO mAD RarRR"
No your paying $1.45 for a guy to catch, process and transport your tuna to you!
So what you're saying, is they gave you an extra 20g more tuna than they needed to ?
SAFCOL doing their part for the cost of living...
No.
But that IS what you're saying... Just sayin
Yes, your just saying ..but its not what I'm saying.
Well then, "You are wrong", said the Fat Controller...
thomas the tank engine references in the wild? this is amazing
Its literally the conclusion your math came to
The math mistake lessened the impact of the issue, but the issue still remains.
How bored are you?
He’s that bored that he can’t even do maths properly.
He needs to hydrate more......
Ahh.. is that why its got so much extra water, to hydrate, my bad.
Because noticing one brand of Tuna has its contents floating where another brand is tightly packed so wanting to find out why, has nothing to do with boredom and everything to do with seeking answers. Sharing shady practices with my fellow Australians on reddit to help them make better financial choices is boredom how?
Because making a mistake with my math changes anything about the fact that the tin still has a high water to Tuna ratio?
How is it a shady practice when it does literally exactly what it says on the tin?
Have you ever read the small print on a tin of tuna? The label was only read after it was purchased and after I opened it and found tuna floating, not stuffed into the tin.
Eliciting something to have more contents by putting it in an oversized package and filling the space with a low value substance isn't illegal, but its shady.
Holy shit this incessant doubling down after realising you were completely wrong is just embarrassing. Straight up childish, like are you 14?
Your mistake in maths is the difference between Big Tuna rorting consumers, and giving consumers exactly what they have agreed to pay for.
Yesterday, you thought it worth measuring the water to confirm if you are being ripped off. Now you don't think the amount of water is relevant?
So why the fuck did you bother measuring the water?
Because noticing one brand of Tuna has its contents floating where another brand is tightly packed so wanting to find out why, has nothing to do with boredom and everything to do with seeking answers. Sharing shady practices with my fellow Australians on reddit to help them make better financial choices is boredom how?
Are you going to weigh the air in a bag of chips and complain about that?
Dismissing observations as complaints are the actions of the easily manipulable.
Hey if the post was correct, then this would seriously need to go to consumer affairs or something because that’d be some bullshit
Yeah.. I thought the same ..then I've been shown my math was incorrect, my bad. It still stands though that this brand has a high water to Tuna ratio that the public should be aware of.
Tbh, from the sketchy shit I've seen going on with things like this over the years, I think consumer affairs are not as strict as they make out themselves out to be ..but that's just my opinion.
The public are aware. The brand makes it very clear that the tuna is in spring water. In addition to being included on the product's name, it's clear from the ingredients list. You can also get a pretty good idea of the liquid contents by just lightly shaking the can.
Tell me you don't understand the basis for the posting ..without telling me you don't understand.
Who shakes every can of food before they purchase it?
We are aware though. The can states it's 36% water. Your calculation of the amount of water only gives ~32%. So it's actually LESS water in a can than you're telling us
Investing time to save money isn't boredom, its being pro active with your spending.
Confidently incorrect
If I wasn't confident I wouldn't have posted ;)
that isn't what that means
is it 45% water or 45% water with tuna bits?
I got my math wrong, it turns out its 69% tuna taking a 31% saline bath. Opening the tin and seeing the Tuna floating is what spurred me to pull out the scales and check the ratio.
That's about $16/kg for tuna, not too bad; for reference, Sirena comes in at about $25/kg once you remove water weight as per the package.
Consistency wise, the SAFCOL has a better texture than Woolworths own. The Woolworths own comes across as what wood shavings are to prime timber.
I'm getting back into Tuna from decades away from it and going up the brands to find a balance of good enough at a decent price point. The floating in the tin SAFOL is what spurred my posting.
Aldi is where i found my price/quality balance.
Thanks, your the second person mentioning Aldi. I will check them out.
You’re actually paying the full amount for the tuna and can and the water is coming free
Your getting same priced Tuna masquerading as cheaper Tuna by high water to Tuna ratio ..is why I made the posting.
Drink the tuna
Believe it or not. I actually drink the water before using the tuna.
I like to get the flavoured John west ones, I just eat the tuna with the water still in the tin.
I’m surprised to see so many people actually drain it.
Hardcore or insane? ..I'm not sure which ;)
What sized straw?
One that goes all the way to the bottom
:D
Hey man, check the maths I don’t think this is correct.
Not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet.
Yeah, plenty have ridiculed and berated (such is reddit), one told me where I went wrong though, which was helpful.
My percentage calculation was incorrectly taken off the weight of the drained tuna and not the entire contents of can.
Water you on about?
Do I sound salty (water)?
Well played sir
Same to you :)
Do yourself a favour and wait for Sirena in oil to be on special. Life is too short for dry sad tuna.
Spring water and brined tuna both have some culinary uses for which tuna in oil is inappropriate.
Is kind of an annoying response to somebody raising an issue with product labelling and expected purchases.
That said, OP's math is wrong and they've calculated the water as a percent of the amount of tuna, not as a percent of the total weight of the product. There's actually LESS water than labelled on the packaging.
...im kinda afraid to ask what dishes spring/brined tuna is better for. Because I just smack that sirena oiled stuff into everything, and now I'm cringing to think I've probably done it wrong (and hopefully haven't shared a dish with anyone).
Tuna Mornay is a reasonably accessible example.
The bechamel sauce should be finely balanced so as not to be greasy or oily. Adding a large amount of oil with the tuna can disrupt it and change the flavour, texture and mouthfeel of the dish.
It's also important in any scenario where the tuna's ability to absorb and hold flavours is important - like a lot of lighter Japanese dishes, some types of salads and so on
That said, don't be too worried - there's no "wrong answers" when cooking, you'll just get something else and if you enjoy eating it then that's great: you didn't make a mistake, you tweaked the recipe.
You're a champ, tysm. I was strictly vegetarian for about 15 years so it's only in the past 4? years that I've started cooking with more than vegetables. I have a great vegetarian repertoire and very lacking meat one (which doesn't bother me too much, I actually can't eat a lot now without feeling a bit queasy - like my gut biome just nopes that stuff out, even if I'm absolutely craving it).
All that to say - tuna mornay isnt something I've ever had and now I'm really excited to try! But will probably start with the Japanese salads because the heat is killing me here. Either way, Im so happy to try some non-oily tuna meals - ty!
"like my gut biome just nopes that stuff out, even if I'm absolutely craving it)."
Yes your right. Your biome needs consistant meat intake for a good 3-4 weeks to grow new versions of itself to better handle meat. I had the same with decades away from dairy, I reintroducing it and it wreaked havoc on my guts for the first month or so.
Spring water version is more of a blank canvas to add your own oils/sauces to.
Ah.. that's where my numbers went wrong. Other comments confirmed I was wrong but not where I went wrong, thanks for the breakdown.
I only read the tiny small print at the bottom of the label after I had pulled the scales out and checked the water weight. What got me onto this was opening the tin and seeing the Tuna floating rather than being packed in tight like other brands.
Because thinking I'm wanting a lower ratio water to Tuna means I want dry tuna?
I don't want dry tuna, but if it means I'm not getting ripped off, give me dry tuna ...and I can add my own water.
Sirena is the GOAT, but if you’re into chilli tuna ALDI triple chilli is the bomb, and it’s half the price. Chunk tuna as well, not that flaked bullshit that John West puts out.
Can someone good at maths tell me how much $ per kilo of tuna this is? Thanks
Once you fix OP’s terrible maths you end up with 292 grams of tuna, which goes in to 1,000 3.42 times, so $15.92KG.
So about 5-7 dollars more per KG than you’d pay for basic bullet tuna if you bought it in bulk.
Buy in bulk. Good idea thanks 👍
Well, it seems I can't ..as my original math was fcked :)
I wasn't saying you can't. Did not say your maths was fkd. Are you being sarcastic 🤔
I just wanna know if it's a good deal haha
I'm saying I can't :)
Not sarcastic, just when you've made a recent math fck up like I did your not in a position to claim knowing math ;)
Have you nothing better to do?
Than finding value for money ..to better spend what money I have during a sky high cost of living crisis?
What percentage of tuna flesh is water?
Some of the liquid came from the fish itself, if you mush it back up then it isn't like eating chalk
Tuna is made of water too. So factor that percentage in as well
I stated in brackets ...just for commenters like you ..but if I don't state molecular weights and mass spectrometry results then people like you are not happy are you?
Factor in that this is Social Media and not Scientific Explorer Monthly magazine.
What’s with the attitude?
I’m not asking for percentages, do a mass spec or even conduct a volumetric analysis, I’m simply stating that water is also a key percentage of the tuna that you could also factor in too. When you say ‘it’s actually 45% water, you’re making a statement of fact. However your statement is wrong because you haven’t calculated all the water content.
No need to be an arrogant boomer dude.
You didn’t even do the math right dude, you have no right being as arrogant as you are.
133g of water / total weight of 425g is 31.3% water.
Your whole post is crap. Instead of criticising others for commenting, learn how to do simple math before you start attacking others you clown.
I said I hadn't squeezed it which acknowledges my opinion doesn't factor in the entire water content. But still you said what you did. You were being pedantic.
I addressed you being pedantic and you call it having attitude and being arrogant.
You then arrogantly call me an arrogant boomer, lol.
If your going to label people at least get the labels correct ..or better still, stop labeling people ..and you won't get the labels wrong.
I’ll stop labelling you incorrectly when you stop stating ‘facts’ incorrectly and learn how to do math.
Wow, my wife calls me a tight arse!
Because finding best value for money is being tight arsed?
If someone pays less for an identical new car as you just bought, are they a tight arse? ..or are you not doing your due diligence?
My due diligence doesn't extend to weighing the amount of water in a can of tuna, although I'm probably going overboard with my gatekeeping of energy usage within the home. For a car purchase I'd be definitely doing my best to get a deal.
"My due diligence doesn't extend to weighing the amount of water in a can of tuna"
Great, but mine does.
Wow, my wife calls me a tight arse!
So now you’ve realised your calculations were wrong, and the % water is essentially exactly what is advertised on the tin, what is your issue?
Also, who has the time to be weighing their tuna with/without water? What did you plan to do with this information beyond looking weird on reddit?
The issue is the size of the tin and stated weight compared to Tuna amount making for a high water to Tuna ratio, making it misleading to the buyer.
Who has the time to find out what brand is best value for money? Someone who has intelligence and understands investment of time to save money.
It took me as long to weigh it as it did for you to make your post that attempts to belittle me (it didn't work). My time will save me money, your post saved you nothing ..but cost you time. I invested my time, you wasted your time ..and you think your of superior intellect :D
It seems you don't understand the concept of sharing information to help others make informed decisions on their purchases. Do you understand the concept of helping others ..or just the concept of trying to belittle to make up for your own life's inadequacies?
But it isn’t misleading at all, as your calculations were incorrect.
Yes they were and it is misleading.
Misleading because it actually has less water (31%)?
I've already stated why it is misleading to the purchaser and which is nothing to do with my shitty attempt at the maths.
If I squeezed it it's most likely to have 36% water ..I stated I didn't squeeze it.
Do you really think I don't see your bs?
How is it misleading when it has the amount of water the tin claims it has?
Isn’t it then just common sense that you are indeed spending some of the price of the overall tin on water?
the only bs people are seeing here is yours.
Your post is misleading, yes.
You should edit it to reflect the fact your can of tuna does, in fact, have the correct ratio of product vs water as advertised.
Someone who has intelligence and understands investments won't make a simple primary school math error.
Your fault for throwing out $1.45 of dolphin safe water.
Lol ..
..no body's perfect ;)
Think yourself lucky, the ratio of water-to-tuna in the ocean is way worse.
What percentage of micro plastics?
Or mercury
..which has crossed my mind :)
Tastes like salty cardboard, horrible stuff
When I was young I did bodybuilding, 3 tins of Tuna 5 days a week for 7 years ..and then couldn't even smell it without gagging. Tuna overload. Its taken me over a decade to be able to try it again ..and why I'm now trying out every brand for value for money.
I found the sirena to be the best.
Thanks, I'll add it to the list.
Discounting the % / ratio argument, with no scientific evidence, I swear you get more tuna in a Safcol tin if you pick "in Springwater" than you do if it's "in oil."
I got my original maths wrong, its 36% not 45% water ..still a really shitty ratio though. What spurred me to measure was opening the tin and seeing the Tuna floating.
Comparing labels, the oil one claims the same percentage of Tuna as the spring water ..but: Is that percentage by weight or by volume? Were not told.
https://preview.redd.it/66y3xa75d98g1.png?width=592&format=png&auto=webp&s=ecac14aec5059dbc9528e4fce584bac42351a1c2
Fruit and vegetables with inedible parts (skin, seeds, stems), bones in meat, plastic and metal cans, and so on, would like to have a chat.
Is it by weight or by volume
Go to Aldi. Way cheaper for canned fish. Don't pay for water.
At the price of water, that's an absolute bargain! /S
You weren't paying $1.45 for the water. You were paying $1.45 for the spring water 😂
The percentage of water is boring - what I would like to know is what the term ‘responsibly fished’ means.
Getting value for money (less water) isn't boring :)
It does go into more detail about its claim on the label:
https://preview.redd.it/ppfi9ghwq98g1.png?width=614&format=png&auto=webp&s=ba85a466f4d8a287e1353bac6120432f652ba8d2
Was the water sourced responsibly from springs? It only suggests the tuna was responsibly fished.
Would you rather dry tuna in a can
Because life is black and white?
Lmao
You’re*
Pls delete and go back to school.
Sounds fishy. Just like wherever you learnt your maths.
Look at it this way, when the cost of a lot of other fish are closer to the $50 per kilogram mark, at $4.65 per 292g you are enjoying your tuna at $15.92kg.
Focus your negativity elsewhere, this certainly isn’t worth it 😁
You bought fish in water, and you're complaining that there's water?
People here are not rich assholes who are laughing at you for being bad at maths, they just wanna be fair so when companies are actually scamming consumers we have the right to call them out
Its like complaining that a pickle jar has brining liquid.
You should call the police
133ml or 133g?
292g/425g=68.7% tuna. 31.3% of the can is water. You’re not paying $1.45 for tinned water, you’re paying for a tin with tuna that is in spring water - which is the healthier alternative to oil or brine.
Hahaha what a crashout in the comments from someone who can't do primary school maths 🤣
Not even low grade hydrogenated oil?
Yep most of them do it. Colesworth meat is full of water also
Wait till you see the Beer.... and the spring...water.
Bottled spring water isn't $10 a litre.
Yet.
I noticed for a time that coles was soaking the ginger to increase its sales weight ..at $29 a kilo. Soaking it is obvious as it sheds its skin ..and that they stopped doing it tells me the public knows their ginger and stopped buying it :) ..I love it when the public gives the middle finger to scammy practices.
Edit to my posting: its 31% water.
The reason from my posting still stands that your not getting as much tuna as you think you are because they purposely miss lead you by putting it in a bigger tin and filling it with a significant amount of water. Who reads tiny small print on a can sitting on the bottom shelf?
My numbers were off but its still shady practice that I've highlighted to better inform buyers.
Just buy canned tuna from aldi. Their price is always better and the quality difference is none.
Thanks, I will put it on my hit list. I'm coming back to Tuna from decades away and trialing all the brands.
They hate us cos they ain't us!
Mmm fish water
Lol.. Going to use it to give yourself a facial? ;)
No. Tf
lol.
Right! So let's deal with this problem by stopping immigration!
The Tuna was from Thailand ..so your crazy rantings ..sort of ..in a way, sort of, could apply, lol ...but yeah, nah.. bit of a bonkers statement that one.
Brain rot right here, folks.
Pretty sure it was sarcasm
A statement like that on a post about Tuna to water ratio ..isn't really sarcasm though :)
I took it as sarcasm about how whenever there's a cost of living complaint someone pops up and blames immigration
Houses too expensive....immigrants.
Too much traffic....immigrants.
My dog died.....immigrants.
My wife left me..... immigrants.
I've got bad body odour.....those bloody immigrants.
Etc.
"there's a cost of living complaint someone pops up and blames immigration"
Oh, I've not noticed that..
Now it makes sense :)
Why stop immigration when we can simply increase it, loosen our definition of "tuna" and the problems sort themselves out.
Of course it would have to be labelled packed in Australia from imported ingredients...
This guy understands wording manipulation to protect and push an agenda^ :)
Some facts that every citizen should know:
Every aspect of law is the word of the law, the words used in law and that its the lawyers job to pick apart words, to weaken the oppositions words and win. The job of the lawyer is to be a professional word pick apart arguer.
If a law stands in your way, change the wording and the law doesn't apply ..and is why Trump changed the name of the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America ..so any laws applying to it (oil drilling, etc) no longer apply ..because they apply to the Gulf of Mexico, not the Gulf of America.
During a world wide landmine ban, the British government reclassified the Claymore mine ..so it was no longer a landmine so not part of the ban and they could keep on using it. It's all in the naming, the word(s).
Observe the government changing existing wording/naming that at the time seems benign and you will spot their manipulation. The last time I witnessed this was the changing of "My gov ID" to "My ID" ..to distance its association with gov surveillance and make it seem more benign than it actually is. ..to make you more likely to sign up for it.
I used to work with a guy who would bring a salad sandwich to work for lunch and then open a small can of tuna to add to it. I read the label on the can and laughed out loud and when he asked why I laughed I said the cat food that my wife buys for our cat contains twice as much tuna as this does. He didn’t believe me so the next day I brought an empty cat food can and showed him, his can contained 45% tuna and the cat food contained 95% tuna. He was instantly hit with the realisation that his wife was feeding her cat better than she was feeding him.
Ha, ha.. funny shit :) ..why the fck you've been down voted is beyond me.
After that day was he coming to work with really sleek and glossy hair ..after switching out his Tuna for cat food? ;)
Protein water
I like your positive attitude :) ..but the protein water is a bit over priced ;)
You aren't suppose to notice that, didn't you look at the marketing? its 'responsibly fished', and has a nice little picture of a happy fish.
I mean, it seems that you didn't notice that OP completely stuffed his maths lol
Their comment on the label has exactly what to do with me getting my maths wrong?
If it has nothing do to with it, why try to lesson the value of their comment by highlighting my failed attempt at maths?
They stated that you aren't meant to notice that, that being that the tin is half water according to your post. So the rest of the comment talking about how the label is meant to distract you from the contents of the tin is lacking any foundation, the tin has exactly what it says it has, no distraction nessecary
Actually now you mention it, my attention was drawn to how much label real estate was trying to convince me of its honest intentions ..so much that it made me suspicious :)
You also see the bigger picture of manipulation ..unlike those that have down voted you. The blind ridiculing those that see..
After spending some time responding to all the comments and observing some of them with my life long hobby of cultural anthropology and human psychology observed and learned across more than 10+ countries/cultures; who would have ever thought I would learn so much about Australians who frequent reddit by making a posting about the contents of a tin of Tuna.. ..
My mind is boggled :)
Ah this must be the narcissism 101 you were talking about?
Don't worry about it
I don't worry, I get answers and apply them to my future purchases. I post so others can do the same.
Ah, you see it's the tuna bits that are 36%. We added some water to the tin with the tuna.
Who is still drinking canned tuna? Have you seen the footage inside their factories. 0% dolphin maybe, but that's not 0% bycatch 🤢