You would be surprised how many people would be running the DUI gauntlet most mornings, thinking they are OK.
Buy yourself a cheap breathalyser and be amazed at how much of an alcoholic you are
But not your enzymatic processing of alcohol. The processing of alcohol is a zeroth order kinetic reaction, which means it proceeds at a steady rate independent of things like how much is in your system and, in the case of alcohol here, your level of consciousness. The rate varies from person to person, but not for that person (unless we’re talking about rate change over the years to be semantic)
The most stupid fucking spelling of all time, I don’t care if jail is a yank spelling and I hate the yanks. Guess what, gaol is pom shit, I hate them as well.
I used to hate my body ..until I threw every chips and chocolate bar wrapper into the passenger foot well of my car as I snacked and drove And after 10 days the pile was shin deep :o
12 The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. 13 Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs. 14 Then he said to the tree, “May no one ever eat fruit from you again.” And his disciples heard him say it.
20 In the morning, as they went along, they saw the fig tree withered from the roots. 21 Peter remembered and said to Jesus, “Rabbi, look! The fig tree you cursed has withered!”
I mean the kid hit their car and didn't have right of way. I encourage you to look at the intersection on streetview, can't see a kid flying down the bike track from the road: https://maps.app.goo.gl/v84ifyAsxjAhTSWV7?g_st=ac
So the old medication excuse was raised. Are there any medications that cause your liver to process alcohol slower? I assumed the warning about not drinking on some medications was because it increased the impact of alcohol or reduced the medications effectiveness.
But supposedly he was celebrating a birthday and went home at 8pm. Assuming standard rates of alcohol elimination, and a 6-8pm window of drinking, that would result as about 18 standard drinks in that time to approximately be around 0.05 at 9am the next day. A drink every 6-7 minutes.
A lot of medication has significant impact on how quickly your body removes it from your system. Such that people stay intoxicated for longer.
Considering the guy blew over the limit at 9am the next day, medication like this actually quite relevant.
Now they could be talking out of their arse and went really hard or keep drinking till really late. But medication is a completely plausible explanation in this context.
The information is all in the article if you read it.
Allan said she and her family were celebrating her son’s birthday at their local pub on Wednesday evening and headed home about 8pm.
“My husband is also currently taking medication for a health issue, and as a result of the medication mixing with the alcohol from the night before, he simply shouldn’t have been driving the following morning,” she said.
Allan said there was no excuse. “He understands that. I understand that, and for this, we are both truly sorry.”
The two events seem to be unrelated:
Piper, [...], continued on to the supermarket and was then stopped by police for the random breath test just before 9am.
Police said in a statement that Piper, 56, was stopped in Mitchell Street, Bendigo as part of a statewide road policing operation.
The thing about random breath testing... is that they are random.
Nial Wheate, a professor of pharmaceutical chemistry at Macquarie University, said some medication affected the metabolism of alcohol.
He said enzymes in the liver that break down alcohol also break down medicine but can’t work on everything at once, leaving alcohol in the body for longer.
This also means people can be legally impaired at lower levels of drinking.
[...]
Wheate said antibiotics were one category of drug that affected the liver, and blood pressure medication such as antihypertensives were shown to make alcohol stay in the body for longer and increase blood-alcohol readings.
No need to say, correct process was followed for someone doing crime.
Being said, Jacinta and Dan for that matter should have clipped their family over the ears staying they need to keep their noses clean as fuck - since the rabid dogs from the right will hold them to higher standards than the opposition counterparts.
People make mistakes and I've always thought that the morning after can be hard to judge. What annoys me are the excuses and lies.. "we went home at 8" "he's on medication". No, you went home at 8 and he smashed 2 bottles of red. His medication doesn't increase the level of alcohol in his blood.
What we need to make sure of here is that no tax payer dollars are used to transport this guy around in cabs or private drivers. He can get the bus like the rest of us
Actually it’s refreshing to see a diff angle. Not only are you correct re medication, but I didn’t think of transport over that time. Yeah, fuck paying for it.
Right o let’s ban alcohol in house holds now, and what ever brand of car he was driving, pass these laws straight away.
If alcohol wasn’t available in house holds this wouldn’t have happened, and the brand of car he was driving needs to be removed from Victorian roads immediately.
If he just cops it, pays the fine and whatever other punishment there is then I don't think this reflects poorly on her. It's the weaseling out of responsibility that pisses people off.
If he blew .05 then aren't they supposed to wait another 20-30 minutes to do another test before charging him? All politics aside it seems a little dodgy, especially since he was right on the limit.
I don't know if anyone is actually interested in this or it's just rhetorical, but here's a quote from the alcohol and drug foundation website (adf.org.au):
"If you drink while taking these medications (e.g., contraceptive pills), your liver will be slower at processing alcohol, leading to a higher BAC."
They don't offer a comprehensive list of which medications can do this but, assuming it's correct (they don't offer a source as far as I could see), it shows that it is possible.
Many Australians are so habitually pissed that they would not notice if they were at 0.05% BAC as that is just 'normal' for them.
We are a drug loving country.
Settle down Satan, I know reddit really hates drink drinkers, but this appears to be an error in judgement and he will face consequences for his actions. ‘Reckless’ is a term that should be used sparingly. And how does this make him ‘nasty’, am I missing part of the story?
"random breath test"
"Piper was involved in a bingle shortly before his random breath test, having “bumped into” the car in front of him when it came to a stop at an intersection about 8.45am on Thursday."
Doesn't seem like it was random to me?
Also he stopped drinking at 8pm the night before then was over more than 12 hours later? give me a break
I’m no fan of Jacinta Allan but this should not be reported in the news. Poor bastard blew .05, if police had let him take a piss he would have been under!
He ran into the back of a car, while over the limit, mixing medication with alcohol. Yeh, “poor bastard”. Want to pass that comment to a road trauma victim?
Oh no! Well clearly we have a problem with people drinking and driving so the question is do we ban cars, beverages or the RBTs that make the state look bad..??
We have to be careful here to make sure we address every aspect of the problem except for the actual cause, otherwise we might not turn a profit! We can't waste this opportunity and must utilise this social unrest while it's still fresh!!
You would be surprised how many people would be running the DUI gauntlet most mornings, thinking they are OK. Buy yourself a cheap breathalyser and be amazed at how much of an alcoholic you are
"High score" - what does that mean, did i break it?
Perfect 0.12 https://youtu.be/WhFc88zCymU?si=1ASeK1a4Vpucftwm
What the fuck do numbers mean anyway?
How cool you are
It’s a shit tornado Randy
It’s insane how many adults think that sleep = reset drunkenness.
Sure mate, it’s 8am, but you sunk half a carton last night and didn’t stop to go to sleep until after 3am. You’re not going to be sober until lunch.
Also, alcohol digestion slows down while asleep anyway
incorrect.
I’ve never ever heard this before, must be because it’s 100% certified baloney
The whole metabolism slows down.
But not your enzymatic processing of alcohol. The processing of alcohol is a zeroth order kinetic reaction, which means it proceeds at a steady rate independent of things like how much is in your system and, in the case of alcohol here, your level of consciousness. The rate varies from person to person, but not for that person (unless we’re talking about rate change over the years to be semantic)
I honestly feel like most people are aware of this, they just take the chance.
Most are garbage. I tried one, but they mostly don't work.
I reckon I would have been well over 0.05 every Sunday morning in my 20s when driving to the local charcoal chicken shop.
The guy deserves whatever happens to him but I don’t think it’s a massive deal at the same time.
Its only big news because he is a public figure. That being said, no one should drink drive ( reformed serial drink driver here) or be above the law
Plenty of research has shown it impairs your driving abilities and puts people at risk.
Kind of is a big deal.
Old mate got in a crash before he was pulled over, kind of making my point.
He put lives at risk. Jail time.
Meanwhile you can run over a school fence then 5 kids killing 1 and only lose your licence for 2 years
lol jail time for 0.05, ok m8
1km over the speed limit? JAIL!
That’s how stupid you sound.
Spelling gaol the American Way in an Australian subreddit.... gaol.
The most stupid fucking spelling of all time, I don’t care if jail is a yank spelling and I hate the yanks. Guess what, gaol is pom shit, I hate them as well.
What?
Respect the law?
He was 0.05 you knob head, get a grip.
Found the drunk driver
Almost impossible to get jail time in Victoria.
Thats it.... his innocent
I used to hate my body ..until I threw every chips and chocolate bar wrapper into the passenger foot well of my car as I snacked and drove And after 10 days the pile was shin deep :o
I heard he's been plastered ever since she took his favourite machete away.
Her husband a drink driver, her chief of police a drink driver and then there's her predecessor and the biker boy scandal...
How the men around her cope with her :)
Your point is that she is has done nothing wrong?
When you buy a carton of eggs. When one is rotten they all are.
When you make up sayings, the egg runs faster.
If the tree is rotten, the Apple never falls far
If a fig tree has no figs, Jesus will kill it.
By hitting it at 60km/h front-on, it's the less well known second part of the water into wine story.
12 The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. 13 Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs. 14 Then he said to the tree, “May no one ever eat fruit from you again.” And his disciples heard him say it.
Well, well well, how the turntables...
You’re talking about Aussie pollies mate. It’s not just the carton it’s the whole lorry full
It's like the chickens are on steroids
Shittest analogy ever.
I mean the kid hit their car and didn't have right of way. I encourage you to look at the intersection on streetview, can't see a kid flying down the bike track from the road: https://maps.app.goo.gl/v84ifyAsxjAhTSWV7?g_st=ac
Yes the damage was consistent with a head on Collison, but andrews say the kid t boned him.
Same cunt that broke his neck falling down the stairs after sexually assaulting a fellow pollies kid btw
Link to source?
Anything is possible when you lie 🤥 🤥 🤥
Endemic culture of alcohol abuse enabled by the premier.
So the old medication excuse was raised. Are there any medications that cause your liver to process alcohol slower? I assumed the warning about not drinking on some medications was because it increased the impact of alcohol or reduced the medications effectiveness.
But supposedly he was celebrating a birthday and went home at 8pm. Assuming standard rates of alcohol elimination, and a 6-8pm window of drinking, that would result as about 18 standard drinks in that time to approximately be around 0.05 at 9am the next day. A drink every 6-7 minutes.
And it's hard to believe it was an RBT when he rear ended a car earlier that same day. Nothing random about that breath test.
Bullshit excuses.
Only fomepizole which is used for alcohol poisoning. Hes (they) are full of shit
The Allans obviously don’t have a handle on government like the Andrews’ family did, or this would never have made the media.
Drink driving and then blame medication?
Responsible adults don't play the blame game. ..so what does it say about those that blame?
I'd drink a lot too if she was my wife
I think more people are surprised to know she has a husband
Happily drink poison if she was my wife.
Happily eat beef wellington if she was my wife.
Quick better call Erin
wonder why she didn't get the cops to do a "Dan Andrews" and loose the paperwork and mess up the RBT procedure?
Glad somebody mentioned this.
At least she didn't try to cover it up, unlike some
Nah she went a step less pathetic and blamed it on medication that he was probably told not to drink on.
And medication typically has no effect on the BAC
A lot of medication has significant impact on how quickly your body removes it from your system. Such that people stay intoxicated for longer.
Considering the guy blew over the limit at 9am the next day, medication like this actually quite relevant.
Now they could be talking out of their arse and went really hard or keep drinking till really late. But medication is a completely plausible explanation in this context.
Many can amp up the effects of alcohol making you more impaired than you realise
Yes but doesn’t affect the BAC
Technically no, but it does affect the one behind the wheel
Are you on this medication right now?
Yes, which is why I'm not drinking
And that makes it right?
Wow, what's your beef, never said it was ok.
Bogans gonna bogan
Affluent people definitely drink at a similar rate, especially when it's cases like this and it's the next day
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You had me in the first half.
she's a bloody terrible premier but using sexist terms like "witch" is fucking wild in the big 2025
Can’t tell if sarcastic or not
How’s the Labor partisan hacks gonna spin this one?
What's there to spin?
What exactly did she do wrong? There was no coverup or attempt to use her power to make it go away.
Why are the actions of a partner or family member of a politician even news?
But you think it should be news if it was an LNP member.
Why the double standards?
If it was a family member of an LNP politician then I don't think it should be news either.
But I'm assuming you are talking about the other comment about Barnaby Joyce?
In that case, one is an actual member of parliament, the other isn't.
It is bizarre that you think a family member of a politician is equivalent to an actual politician, but maybe you just watch too much US media.
Medication wasn't the cause. First bit of bs spin.
Second bit, if they had a minor accident and exchanged details, why did police RBT him?
The information is all in the article if you read it.
The two events seem to be unrelated:
The thing about random breath testing... is that they are random.
There is only one medication that reduces alcohol processing and he wouldn't have been on it. Thats complete spin.
that is also in the article:
No need to say, correct process was followed for someone doing crime.
Being said, Jacinta and Dan for that matter should have clipped their family over the ears staying they need to keep their noses clean as fuck - since the rabid dogs from the right will hold them to higher standards than the opposition counterparts.
If they had any sense they'd just say nothing.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KnwXqv_iugQ
Better than the LNP leadership, who can't even walk properly when drinking.
A classic “but but but liberals” type response. Partisan hacks typical response because they can’t criticise “their side”
Smooth brain stuff
yeah they deflected but so did you bro
the irony
One is an actual elected politician, the other is just a family member who has nothing to do with government.
People make mistakes and I've always thought that the morning after can be hard to judge. What annoys me are the excuses and lies.. "we went home at 8" "he's on medication". No, you went home at 8 and he smashed 2 bottles of red. His medication doesn't increase the level of alcohol in his blood.
What we need to make sure of here is that no tax payer dollars are used to transport this guy around in cabs or private drivers. He can get the bus like the rest of us
Actually it’s refreshing to see a diff angle. Not only are you correct re medication, but I didn’t think of transport over that time. Yeah, fuck paying for it.
Right o let’s ban alcohol in house holds now, and what ever brand of car he was driving, pass these laws straight away.
If alcohol wasn’t available in house holds this wouldn’t have happened, and the brand of car he was driving needs to be removed from Victorian roads immediately.
Tony Abbott, Chief of Staff, never faced any crime after being caught drinking and driving.
"Rules for thee, no rules for me." ..and lets not forget Dan Andrews being fined twice for no mask under his own mandatory mask rules.
For every single time they are caught, how many times have they actually done things without being caught?
If anyone knows which cops fined Dan, let me know, I want to buy them a beer ..for not letting him intimidate them. Nice one boys :)
Alas poor Yorick.
So?
If he just cops it, pays the fine and whatever other punishment there is then I don't think this reflects poorly on her. It's the weaseling out of responsibility that pisses people off.
'I''ll take "things I couldn't give two wet shits about for $500 thanks Alex'"
They should have given him a saliva swab to check he hadn't been on the bongs or the little glass pipe
How could Dan Andrews do this.
How could Dan Murphys do this
Involved in a cheeky little bingle before hand too
If he blew .05 then aren't they supposed to wait another 20-30 minutes to do another test before charging him? All politics aside it seems a little dodgy, especially since he was right on the limit.
Most likely way over and then lowered due to proveledge
You're delusional
Maybe we should ban beers or put our beer bins /s
Wives tend to drink with husbands. People associate with others with the same behaviour.
Is the Premier similarly plastered at work? It might affect her professional judgement.
It may explain her professional judgment.
What prescribed medication exacerbates a blood alcohol content?
The answer to that question is behind a $5000 lawyer paywall.
I don't know if anyone is actually interested in this or it's just rhetorical, but here's a quote from the alcohol and drug foundation website (adf.org.au):
"If you drink while taking these medications (e.g., contraceptive pills), your liver will be slower at processing alcohol, leading to a higher BAC."
They don't offer a comprehensive list of which medications can do this but, assuming it's correct (they don't offer a source as far as I could see), it shows that it is possible.
None, it can affect how alcohol affects you but it’s not changing the BAC content.
If it did everyone would be running that defence in court
Maybe one with alcohol in it?
Could he afford to pay for a taxi?
What a nasty reckless selfish man.
Many Australians are so habitually pissed that they would not notice if they were at 0.05% BAC as that is just 'normal' for them.
We are a drug loving country.
Settle down Satan, I know reddit really hates drink drinkers, but this appears to be an error in judgement and he will face consequences for his actions. ‘Reckless’ is a term that should be used sparingly. And how does this make him ‘nasty’, am I missing part of the story?
Yeah. He didn't get a taxi. I don't like drink drivers, especially after seeing people get maimed by them
Drink drinkers on the other hand, have never been an issue for me.
Still don’t get the nasty bit 🤷. Generally needs intent.
Damn, that would have been a rough photo call to wife
"random breath test" "Piper was involved in a bingle shortly before his random breath test, having “bumped into” the car in front of him when it came to a stop at an intersection about 8.45am on Thursday."
Doesn't seem like it was random to me?
Also he stopped drinking at 8pm the night before then was over more than 12 hours later? give me a break
Watch out cyclists, old traditions die hard in Victoria's Labor party.
I'd give anything to be a fly on the wall when he had to tell her what happened!
He wasn't drunk, just upset that he had to travel far to the closest machete bin.
Did the random breath test come before or after the crash… just wondering how random it was…
Alas poor Yorick! Got on the beeers!
Tax payers will cover his uber cost
Ah well he can just fly business class everywhere from now on for $0
I’m no fan of Jacinta Allan but this should not be reported in the news. Poor bastard blew .05, if police had let him take a piss he would have been under!
He ran into the back of a car, while over the limit, mixing medication with alcohol. Yeh, “poor bastard”. Want to pass that comment to a road trauma victim?
Relax mate, he bumped into the car in front with no injuries.
and what about if that car was a child instead?
Love a good whataboutism.
Oh no! Well clearly we have a problem with people drinking and driving so the question is do we ban cars, beverages or the RBTs that make the state look bad..??
We have to be careful here to make sure we address every aspect of the problem except for the actual cause, otherwise we might not turn a profit! We can't waste this opportunity and must utilise this social unrest while it's still fresh!!
I'd drink too if I was married to her.
Alas poor Yorick
The most amazing thing about this story is that she has a husband - unbelievable
LOOOOOOOOOOOL
Where's the DUI bins
Diplomatic immunity
It was only 0.01 over the limit. Not really a big deal.
Only a little bit over? You’re a bloody idiot.
Thanks TAC.
Fucken hypocrisy. Such a cunt putting everyone else on the road at risk