"The local manufacturer Bulk Nutrients, regarded in the fitness industry as a more affordable brand, recently lifted its whey protein concentrate from $44 to $49 and whey protein isolate from $58 to $68."
They also previously raised it from about $39-$44 about 6 months ago.
Hell I remember when they did the 5 or 10kg bags.
Still use bulk nutrients but hate the 1kg bag design they adopted, it looks better but why is the opening smaller than it could be!
I’ve tried their soy and pea isolates. Neither as good as the whey (harder to mix without a shaker, flavour not as good) but at the price I’m not complaining.
Soy isolate kinda tastes like soy milk when mixed and mixes slightly better than the pea isolate. So if you’re the kind of person who likes soy milk it’s the better go. Pea is… very bitter. It’s a more complete amino acid profile so might be a better call if you’re vegan and/or getting the majority of your protein from powder. If you’re omnivorous and/or getting your dietary protein from a good variety of sources, I’d just go soy.
They're still the best value vs quality I can find. Remember a couple of years ago when everyone was just shoving out collagen protein? Musashi almost had a monopoly on protein bars. I'm sure their product is amazing for your skin, but it doesn't provide the equivalent of a high protein meal.
You can often get better value from chemist warehouse when they have them on sale - they have a big sale currently.
The cheapest Protein Powder I can find currently is INC Plant Protein 2kg at chemist warehouse ($26.25/kg, 73.3g protein per 100g, therefore 27.9g protein per dollar cost.
The cheapest Whey Protein Concentrate seems to be Vital Strength Hydroxy Ripped Thermogenic Protein Powder Vanilla 2kg which is half price at chemist warehouse ($33.30/kg, 75.7% protein and therefore 22.7g protein per dollar cost).
Casein protein is also pretty cheap from BlackBelt protein ($34/kg, 77.6% protein, 22.8g protein per dollar cost).
proteinpowderhelper.com can be used to compare different protein powder so you can easily see which protein powder is currently the best value.
You can filter by preferred type (vegan/ Whey Isolate/ Concentrate etc. ) and sort by grams of protein per dollar cost to check which protein is actually good value based on the protein content. You can also compare protein % and other macros of different protein powders.
The price of whey powder at the moment is astronomical! It's diabolical that WPC costs nearly A$50 and WPI costs nearly $70. Pre-covid they were just under half this price, IIRC. By the way I'm not picking on Bulk Noots– I'm just linking to their products because it's a good indicator for the low end of the market.
Personally I've been eating plant-based protein powders, but even their prices have shot up with whey-based powders.
You actually picked a really good one for an example. Bulk Nutrients is the only one I know that will provide test results for their powder and help you independently test it if you wish. They do this to prove there’s no fillers etc and this means they will more truthfully reflect the protein production costs.
Yeah, a news org discovered heavy metals in US-based protein powders. I asked Bulk Noots if they do heavy metal testing for their products, and they do. Absolutely do enjoy buying their products.
Arnie "does" (he has a team help/do most of it) a daily email, and in one of them they broke this down a bunch. For some of those heavy metals, it's literally impossible for there to be 0 so you are likely better off buying the one from a company who openly says "we have this (tiny, insignificant amount of) heavy metal in our product" than buying one who's company say they're heavy metal free.
And if anyone sees this and is interested, can't recommend the email enough. I like being reminded that it's okay to fail, when they discuss new research in science they link to the actual study the vast majority of the time, and the advertorials they include (it's a free email and not many things in life are truly "free" anymore) aren't super intrusive and from looking around, aren't snake oil. Some of it makes me roll my eyes (some of the recipes are...interesting), but for the most part, it's always an entertaining read where I'll likely learn some new science too.
Don’t go through a lot of protein powder but paid $48 for 1kg of WPI from BN in March 2025, 41% increase in less than a year is insane. Electrolyte plus which I do use a lot has gone from $17 to 20 for a kg for comparison
We’ve been buying BN for over a decade. The latest price increase has had us actually try another brand because the flavours from BN were only ever ok, and the price increase means it’s not the obvious choice anymore (plus the shipping from Tassie to Brisbane has always taken at least a week)
Their flavours were always “safe” though. Nothing is a gamble. They’re all “ok” or better, and their quality is frequently tested. Shipping is slow, but that used to be the pay off for cheap quality.
I have been buying from Professional Whey for the last 15 years because their flavours are the only ones I can tolerate after trying many brands over they years, they also sell unflavoured.
I've been buying from Professional Whey forever because they can give me a 20kg sack directly from Warrnambool Cheese Co. that contains only a single ingredient (WPC) from one of the highest quality dairy industries in the world (ours).
Yep it’s fantastic if you’re doing any sort of endurance/high intensity activities. If I’m doing a big mtb ride (2+ hours) I’ll usually have a bottle on the way to trail and a bottle on the bike. It is quite sweet though so can get a bit sickly (esp the tropical but I like that flavour more than the lime).
Thank you. I'm going to be swimming a lot to help with complex medical conditions. Due to some of them, I'm not always able to eat and don't get all of my nutrients from food.
Yeah, I swear I used to be able to get those Botanika plant-based ones for pretty cheap from aldi just before Covid and now they're also exorbitantly priced.
INC Plant Protein 2kg is currently half price at chemist warehouse ($26.25/kg, 73.3g protein per 100g, therefore 27.9g protein per dollar cost.)
proteinpowderhelper.com can be used to compare different protein powders so you can easily see which protein powder is currently the best value. You can filter by vegan and sort by grams of protein per dollar cost to check which protein is actually good value based on the protein content.
I got priced out of getting the WPI, pre covid I was paying about $35, post covid it went to $48+ then $58 and I just went to place another order a couple days ago and it was almost $70. Have switched to WPC for now just to save a bit but it definitely sucks. Not everyone is a gym bro, some of us take it for other health reasons
Why is WPC bad? It’s slightly less processed so the only difference should be how quickly the body can absorb the protein. If you’re not using it for gym stuff, I don’t really see how it would make a difference.
Yeah on paper but I’m talking about diabetics, people with faulty organs, people on medical diets and lactose intolerance, not fit and healthy people counting macros and I think the commenter I replied to is in a similar situation.
last time I bought 3kg of wpi for about 40$ a kg. Before that I usually just buy INC WPC when its on sale at Chemist warehouse, its the best tasting big store powder
I hope I'm not ruining a good thing by saying this, but getting casein online is a godsend. It's slow release so it's there for more of the protein muscle synthesis cycle, and it's cheaper than the other types.
Prices went up to capitalise on the pandemic. Then demand dropped as people went back to their routine, but companies subscribe to "line go up", so in response they fell back to enshitification, and been doing so ever since.
Back in the day companies raced each other to be the cheapest to get customers - Now it's a race to see "how much are people willing to spend for less?"
If it keeps climbing it'll be cheaper to buy it overseas and pay for the international shipping. You can get the same sized tubs from the states for $24.99 USD, which is around $38 AUD. The shipping takes that up to about $70ish AUD.
Getting any dairy products from united shits has to be one of the worst way to waste money while violating your body by consuming that puss ridden pile of chemical garbage. no thank you
A 5.5lb (2.5kg) bag of ON concentrate (not isolate) is about $55USD ($82Aud) at Costco where I live. Where you seeing it for $25USD? Or are you looking at the tiny containers?
The US ones are reportedly not as high a quality with their lack of regulations on supplements. Lower grade, lower quantities with cutting agents.
The thing you get with Bulk Nutrients is they do testing and Australian with Australia having strict restrictions on supplements.
My Protein also used to be good, and tested, however their prices are terrible these days. Instead of good value 5kg bags, they need to cover the costs for extra packaging in smaller 1kg bags and throwing in those free t-shirts and bottles which obviously are not free, inflating the prices.
Yeah, marketing is working well. People eat so much protein because a gym bro on Instagram recommended his favourite brand.
If you go around the shops, one word jumps out on every food item now, protein. It's not a coincidence, it's the best new selling theme in the food and supplements market. Billions of dollars are spent on extra protein, while most people can get enough from regular food.
Not everyone is a competing bodybuilder chasing every gram of protein and perfection.
I stopped chasing protein grams years ago and haven't noticed any difference in gym performance or my looks. Only thing that improved was digestion.
It’s also the weight loss community. Doctors and dieticians recommend eating a lot of protein for the obvious reasons - fuller for longer etc. Having enough or a bit extra protein during weight loss also helps prevent hair loss and help with some muscle (hopefully the person is doing strength training with their weight loss).
Then there’s the chronic illness community who sometimes are too unwell to make food so a complete meal replacement shake ends up there, or small high protein snacks.
It's the influencers who promoted protein the most. Every YouTuber has their own brand that uses only clean ingredients, and it's better than the other guy's brand.
People look at these steroid junkies in their perfect lighting photoshoots and conclude it's the protein that got them that perfect Instabody.
It's funny how everything now shows grams of protein. We now even have protein water available! Like wtf is that? How unnatural can we get with these supplements now? Protein infusions maybe?
Oh yeah I have no doubt. I don’t watch YouTube or IG so don’t have any influencer exposure thankfully. The scary part is too much protein can cause kidney issues. And with so many men not going to the gp, they don’t find out till it’s too late. One of my brothers mates had a kidney transplant last year due to unknown hypertension causing kidney failure. He was only 29.
And everyone is talking about protein. I have people in my office who have never touched weights in their lives or exercised, yet they're talking about how they need to watch their protein intake.
One bloke is probably around 120-130kg, huge guy. And he's talking how he needs protein during lunch. I don't want to be rude, but honestly, he should put the lunch down as the first goal.
Everything is based on protein today, it's the essence of life. I have no idea how we survived before everyone had a 1kg whey protein bag in their pantry.
100%. there's a good video on youtube interviewing a scientist from Stanford Uni who is a member of the committee that works out dietary recommendations for the USDA and he was like.. at no point in time has any dietary experts recommended the high protein intake that broscientists recommend (and GPs are terrible for diet advice, they are not trained in it). Nobody is short on protein except in very, very small numbers of people who are malnourished generally. The problem with modern western diets is absolutely not a lack of protein, its a lack of fibre more than anything else, plus way too much sat fat. The science has been done and settled for a long time at this point and anything else is pseudoscience.
Unless you're literally and genuinely a competitive bodybuilder, and you're just a regular person that goes to the gym, you don't need protein supplementation. He also pointed out that the long term effects of protein supplementation with isolates and stuff isn't well understood yet.
Unless you are lifting multiple times a week, and actively seeking to build muscle, the entire idea is completely mute. You will undoubtably be getting enough protein in your normal diet.
It is a bit strange how regular ass people are now concerned about their protein intake. Most people probably naturally eat enough protein to have no issues.
I do think that every meal you should attempt to add some protein bc it helps slows digestion and keeps you fuller longer.
I personally think most people who go to the gym regularly need a little less than the recommended protein intake. Like obviously, you need to eat more, but I think the fitness industry really hypes up how much you actually need.
That said, I mostly eat one scoop of plant protein powder a day in my morning oats because it helps with my ADHD medication, Vyvanse. Were it not for that, I would forgo the powders entirely.
I’d like to see a law enforcing a minimum of 5g of protein per 100 cal for companies to be allowed to use “protein” on the label as a central feature of the food. Aldi is selling Hills “protein” bars that are like 197 calories. 4.9g of protein and like 19g of carbs.
My parents use it because they are older and have small appetites. I use it in baking so I don't need as much but still. The world is a bigger place than you think.
Coles has a 2m long protein bar shelf. There's now milk marketed with "more protein". Yoghurts are all about how much protein they have now. Even freaking granola has a "high protein" option.
This is what I'm getting at. It's been shoved in our faces at every corner. I'm not against whey protein, just the fact it's been so heavily marketed everyone is using it now.
And I was that guy too, luckily realised the bullshit in time and stopped.
Were you chasing protein grams through food or shakes/bars etc? I’m a bit confused on the whole “half your poundage in protein” and the best way to achieve that (if I even need to). I guess it depends on your goals at the end of the day too. But I prefer to try get it all through food and have maybe 2-3 shakes a week
I was obsessed and trying to meet my target on the gram every day. I've done Dexa scans and knew my lean body mass, had that multiplied by 2 and got 140g per day. And it was like, 6pm, I only got 120g...run to get 20g more, or I die! This was going on for a couple of years, and I sort of got exhausted by it. My life was evolving around protein. I've tried every brand out there, did 2 scoops shakes and shit like that. Every meal was mental calculations about one thing only...protein.
I've seen countless videos, read so many books about it and in the end just gave up. I was determined to begin a day without thinking about protein. And did just that.
I just eat whatever I feel like, as long as it's healthy food. I've actually lost bit more weight and my digestion is heaps better.
As far as the gym goes, nothing changed except I just don't track anything anymore. I am not a pro, I want to be healthy and look decent. That's it.
If I were to calculate I get around 100-120g per day without even trying. And absolutely no supplements. If I have a low protein day, who cares really?
This is for all supplements. There’s a limit to go much of anything your body can absorb, and with our very rich diets most people eat an excess of nutrients already, then go and pump themselves full of supplements because of instagram.
It’s the GLP-1 + bandwagon effect. Everything in the US has protein now. Starbucks protein cold foam? That’s 5,000mt of WPI a year and so on and so on. US B2B WPC80 prices are heading towards $18/kg (to BIG users). Buckle up guys.
A lot of the new studies are showing the fixation on protein is misplaced
Yes, you still need a solid amount in your diet, but the people that are chasing the super high ratios just aren't really benefitting from it in any visible way.
I always buy my protein when its on sale now. I'll even buy 2 tubs to get me through to the next sale. And even the sale prices are 25-50% more than the regular price was a few years back.
Coles Online is currently selling 2kg of Musashi WPC blend for $40. Insane price at the moment. Might not be the best quality but $20/kg is hard to pass up.
Genuine question what is the difference between protein types? I mean whey vs plant protein etc. Usually I buy Nature's Way INP (soy protein) on sale $14 for 400g because it has a much better protein gram-per-dollar ratio than the others (so you can clearly tell I'm not expert) and I get the unflavoured so I can control the sugar intake.
Price and taste are good guides unless you have specific amino acid targets to hit.
Whey protein is the perfect balance of aminos for a human, since it's made from milk which exists to feed a growing animal. All other protein powders are worse since they have too much or too little of the specific amino acids. This difference also barely matters in most cases since you are probably getting enough of the aminos that you need, even before you took the powder.
I use a lot of collagen protein and the prices are insane, especially if they add in some spurious stuff like green tea extract. Probably cheaper to buy cocaine in many cases
How does something that costs less than $20 per kg in Thailand cost this much in Australia? Even accounting for brand name recognition and shiny packaging this just shows that no one questions anything.
Brands don't sell things for what they cost with a profit margin any longer (cost-based pricing), they sell it for the maximum amount you're willing to pay (value-based pricing).
So too much demand because protein has become the latest magic nutrition solution for everyone, and no one involved in selling and producing the stuff is going to miss out on the chance to make more money.
I switched to them after Bulk noots got a bit too expensive for me. It's not bad but the "Nutella" flavour is more like a mild hazelnut flavour, not a complaint just wish I could drink protein diabetes.
I just wish bulk nutrients protein powder tasted better. I buy exclusively from them because they’re Aussie, they have thorough testing, and they’re cheap. But damn the prices have gone up and all of their flavours taste super weak. The chocolate tastes like it was wafted past a chocolate bar at some point and the peanut butter chocolate tastes like cheap candles. The vanilla is the only decent one imo because it’s inherently more bland.
In my opinion, if you notice, most of the proteins are outsourced in China. Because of the air and water pollution, even if it's organic, it's going to be really low quality, yet the prices are going up high.
I'm trying to avoid it like a pest, but unfortunately I'm not aware of any supplement company that doesn't use any Chinese products.
The best I'm doing for now is using Amazonia Raw because of their heavy testing but still If I could avoid it I'll be happier
Professional Whey sells a plain 20kg sack of 100% Australian WPC for $30/kg.
Everyone paying premiums to import a cheap industrial by-product from dumpster fire dairy industries when we have probably the cleanest, highest quality dairy industry in the world right here. The only contender is... NZ... and their bulk WPC is also cheap AF.
The cheapest Protein Powder I can find currently is INC Plant Protein 2kg at chemist warehouse ($26.25/kg, 73.3g protein per 100g, therefore 27.9g protein per dollar cost.
The cheapest Whey Protein Concentrate seems to be Vital Strength Hydroxy Ripped Thermogenic Protein Powder Vanilla 2kg which is half price at chemist warehouse ($33.30/kg, 75.7% protein and therefore 22.7g protein per dollar cost).
Casein protein is also pretty cheap from BlackBelt protein ($34/kg, 77.6% protein, 22.8g protein per dollar cost).
proteinpowderhelper.com can be used to compare different protein powder so you can easily see which protein powder is currently the best value.
You can filter by preferred type (vegan/ Whey Isolate/ Concentrate etc. ) and sort by grams of protein per dollar cost to check which protein is actually good value based on the protein content. You can also compare protein % and other macros of different protein powders.
Around 100 bucks for 5kg few years back seems almost like a dream. Whey is nearly going up the same rate as gold lmao. Recent studies about lead in cheaper green proteins doesn't help either..
cheaper than whey, the combo is a complete protein, and the little bit of fibre left in the isolate prevent the decaying fetid bog corpse farts. Anyone still sticking with whey at this point needs to do more brain reps, paying more for less amino profile control
I agree that plant protein is all you need. The only dairy I eat is a little yogurt with fruit at morning tea. All my other protein comes from pea and rice protein powder, tofu, rice and legumes, meat (lean chicken breast, fish, shellfish), and egg whites.
Plant-based protein is cheaper, but it's still getting more expensive unfortunately. I don't buy whey at all anymore, just plan protein, and it's gone up about $10-15 in price since Covid, though not as much as whey.
Usually I buy Nature's Way INP (soy protein) on sale $14 for 400g because it has a much better protein gram-per-dollar ratio than the others (so you can clearly tell I'm not expert) and I get the unflavoured so I can control the sugar intake.
I buy enough to get me through to the next sale, it's always half price at one or the other supermarket each month or two.
I recently looked back at my old orders from VPA from a good few years ago now and it was 27/kg lol, went to buy some protein for the first time in forever and thought I was looking up the wrong stuff, couldn't believe what I was seeing
From the UK originally and have used MyProtein for years, they have an Australian site and whey protein is always cheaper than everywhere else. Bought 3kg in recent sale for $33/kg. Always use code AUSSIE as gets 45%+ off, in recent sale it was 55%.
"The local manufacturer Bulk Nutrients, regarded in the fitness industry as a more affordable brand, recently lifted its whey protein concentrate from $44 to $49 and whey protein isolate from $58 to $68."
They also previously raised it from about $39-$44 about 6 months ago.
I swear it used to be 30 something dollars for a kilo of whey protein isolate, I must be getting old
Yeah it absolutely was, I used to buy 4 at a time back then
I had an order November 2019 at $21 each for concentrate
Just checked, $23/k for concentrate in 2017
I always bought a few at a time so it was a few $ a kg less.
Was $18 when I got into gym years ago
INC dynamic whey chocolate is still ~$70 on sale for 2kg. I quite like it as a shake with frozen banana and Yogurt after a workout
INC 100% Dynamic Whey Protein Blend (85%) [Whey Protein Concentrate, Whey Protein Isolate, Emulsifier (Sunflower, Lecithin, Soy Lecithin)], Cocoa, Flavours, Medium Chain Triglycerides (Contain Sodium Caseinate), Salt, Vegetable Gum (Xanthan Gum), Sweeteners (Sucralose), Papain, Anti-Caking Agent (Silicon Dioxide).
Not surprised it’s cheap it’s full of garbage, I wouldn’t eat that if you paid me
Which one is the garbage, specifically?
Yup, my earliest order was June 2021 for Protein Matrix+ and it was $24.75/kg.
Now it's $52.00/kg.
Sigh.
Still is about that for Soy Isolate. Similar macros, not as tasty but at half the price I’m willing to sacrifice flavour.
Hell I remember when they did the 5 or 10kg bags. Still use bulk nutrients but hate the 1kg bag design they adopted, it looks better but why is the opening smaller than it could be!
The rate this is going, I'm going to be munching on cold tofu to get my protein.
Have you thought about cooking it?
Add some soy sauce, chilli crisp, and a handful of chopped spring onions at least
And century egg
Laoganma is life
Beans are going to be your best bet I'd say, or maybe milk powder
Their non dairy protein stayed the same price. I’m yet to try it but it’s priced well enough that I bought a pack.
I’ve tried their soy and pea isolates. Neither as good as the whey (harder to mix without a shaker, flavour not as good) but at the price I’m not complaining.
Soy isolate kinda tastes like soy milk when mixed and mixes slightly better than the pea isolate. So if you’re the kind of person who likes soy milk it’s the better go. Pea is… very bitter. It’s a more complete amino acid profile so might be a better call if you’re vegan and/or getting the majority of your protein from powder. If you’re omnivorous and/or getting your dietary protein from a good variety of sources, I’d just go soy.
Ain't nothing wrong with that
Can greedy corps just get stuffed. I'm sick of everything going up in prices. Just existing is costing a fortune
Aren’t they still independently owned and wouldn’t it just be cost of production?
I cant believe they got a whey with these prices for so long...
LOL!!
They're still the best value vs quality I can find. Remember a couple of years ago when everyone was just shoving out collagen protein? Musashi almost had a monopoly on protein bars. I'm sure their product is amazing for your skin, but it doesn't provide the equivalent of a high protein meal.
You can often get better value from chemist warehouse when they have them on sale - they have a big sale currently.
The cheapest Protein Powder I can find currently is INC Plant Protein 2kg at chemist warehouse ($26.25/kg, 73.3g protein per 100g, therefore 27.9g protein per dollar cost.
The cheapest Whey Protein Concentrate seems to be Vital Strength Hydroxy Ripped Thermogenic Protein Powder Vanilla 2kg which is half price at chemist warehouse ($33.30/kg, 75.7% protein and therefore 22.7g protein per dollar cost).
Casein protein is also pretty cheap from BlackBelt protein ($34/kg, 77.6% protein, 22.8g protein per dollar cost).
proteinpowderhelper.com can be used to compare different protein powder so you can easily see which protein powder is currently the best value.
You can filter by preferred type (vegan/ Whey Isolate/ Concentrate etc. ) and sort by grams of protein per dollar cost to check which protein is actually good value based on the protein content. You can also compare protein % and other macros of different protein powders.
I paid $49 for 2kg in 2013
honestly chicken breast from Aldi has more protein per $. And is more filling
Protein powder is lower calorie per g of protein. Much better if you need a shit ton of it or are in a cut.
The price of whey powder at the moment is astronomical! It's diabolical that WPC costs nearly A$50 and WPI costs nearly $70. Pre-covid they were just under half this price, IIRC. By the way I'm not picking on Bulk Noots– I'm just linking to their products because it's a good indicator for the low end of the market.
Personally I've been eating plant-based protein powders, but even their prices have shot up with whey-based powders.
You actually picked a really good one for an example. Bulk Nutrients is the only one I know that will provide test results for their powder and help you independently test it if you wish. They do this to prove there’s no fillers etc and this means they will more truthfully reflect the protein production costs.
Yeah, a news org discovered heavy metals in US-based protein powders. I asked Bulk Noots if they do heavy metal testing for their products, and they do. Absolutely do enjoy buying their products.
Noot noot
Arnie "does" (he has a team help/do most of it) a daily email, and in one of them they broke this down a bunch. For some of those heavy metals, it's literally impossible for there to be 0 so you are likely better off buying the one from a company who openly says "we have this (tiny, insignificant amount of) heavy metal in our product" than buying one who's company say they're heavy metal free.
And if anyone sees this and is interested, can't recommend the email enough. I like being reminded that it's okay to fail, when they discuss new research in science they link to the actual study the vast majority of the time, and the advertorials they include (it's a free email and not many things in life are truly "free" anymore) aren't super intrusive and from looking around, aren't snake oil. Some of it makes me roll my eyes (some of the recipes are...interesting), but for the most part, it's always an entertaining read where I'll likely learn some new science too.
I remember buying 10kgs for $250 at one stage, gone are the days...
I did that and forgot about it in the garage and about 30 mice chewed into the bag 🤮
Massive mice!
Jacked AF
Do you want Skaven, because that’s how you get Skaven.
Chadatouille
Biker Mice from Mars
So that's how the biker mice from Mars were created
You created swoledents.
Don’t go through a lot of protein powder but paid $48 for 1kg of WPI from BN in March 2025, 41% increase in less than a year is insane. Electrolyte plus which I do use a lot has gone from $17 to 20 for a kg for comparison
We’ve been buying BN for over a decade. The latest price increase has had us actually try another brand because the flavours from BN were only ever ok, and the price increase means it’s not the obvious choice anymore (plus the shipping from Tassie to Brisbane has always taken at least a week)
Which other brand did you try? Was it cheaper?
Really? Ordered Sunday, shipped Monday morning, arrived Tuesday lunchtime. Brisbane.
Their flavours were always “safe” though. Nothing is a gamble. They’re all “ok” or better, and their quality is frequently tested. Shipping is slow, but that used to be the pay off for cheap quality.
Idunno vanilla maple is pretty bad
Thats my fav with breakfast oats.
Weirdly enough my favourite flavour of theirs, find it tastes like pancake mix!
I have been buying from Professional Whey for the last 15 years because their flavours are the only ones I can tolerate after trying many brands over they years, they also sell unflavoured.
I've been buying from Professional Whey forever because they can give me a 20kg sack directly from Warrnambool Cheese Co. that contains only a single ingredient (WPC) from one of the highest quality dairy industries in the world (ours).
$30 per kilo.
They need to bring back chocolate ice cream
The salted caramel is my go to though
Is electorate plus good? I've been thinking of starting it.
Yep it’s fantastic if you’re doing any sort of endurance/high intensity activities. If I’m doing a big mtb ride (2+ hours) I’ll usually have a bottle on the way to trail and a bottle on the bike. It is quite sweet though so can get a bit sickly (esp the tropical but I like that flavour more than the lime).
Thank you. I'm going to be swimming a lot to help with complex medical conditions. Due to some of them, I'm not always able to eat and don't get all of my nutrients from food.
Yeah, I swear I used to be able to get those Botanika plant-based ones for pretty cheap from aldi just before Covid and now they're also exorbitantly priced.
I have been buying these regularly for years (~5?). The RRP hasn't gone up at anything near this rate, but the specials are getting MUCH worse.
They used to be perma discounted and available in a reasonable number of stores, now there are no discounts and no store presence.
I used to pay about 50, but the RPR was always 70+ for 1kg.
Prana 2.5kg containers can still be found for $110-130.
INC Plant Protein 2kg is currently half price at chemist warehouse ($26.25/kg, 73.3g protein per 100g, therefore 27.9g protein per dollar cost.)
proteinpowderhelper.com can be used to compare different protein powders so you can easily see which protein powder is currently the best value. You can filter by vegan and sort by grams of protein per dollar cost to check which protein is actually good value based on the protein content.
Try vital strength, their prices have tripled in over a year, not sure who is paying for that . That's just gouging
I just had a look at my Bulk Nutrients invoice from 2015.
I paid $49 for 2KG of WPC, two flavours of 1KG each.
10 years later it has literally doubled in price.
Funnily enough, there are multiple other kinds of powders that have not shot up in price but which you can, in fact, shoot up
Which plant based powders have you been using? I can't find any that mask the flavour of the pea protein, all the ones I've tried taste like ass imo,
I got priced out of getting the WPI, pre covid I was paying about $35, post covid it went to $48+ then $58 and I just went to place another order a couple days ago and it was almost $70. Have switched to WPC for now just to save a bit but it definitely sucks. Not everyone is a gym bro, some of us take it for other health reasons
Why is WPC bad? It’s slightly less processed so the only difference should be how quickly the body can absorb the protein. If you’re not using it for gym stuff, I don’t really see how it would make a difference.
[edit] I have been educated!
It’s less protein-y and more carb-y. Depends what your nutrition goals are though obvs
WPC has more fat, more carbs, more lactose. If you’re restricting any of those for medical reasons I can see why one would be preferable over another
When doing overall calorie counting on a day to day basis, the small increase in carbs/fats on WPC is minimal
Yeah on paper but I’m talking about diabetics, people with faulty organs, people on medical diets and lactose intolerance, not fit and healthy people counting macros and I think the commenter I replied to is in a similar situation.
I'm one of these people
Athletes who want to build muscle need Branch-Chain Amino Acids: leucine, isoleucine, and valine.
You can get these with a BCCA supplement, or WPI, or WPC, or even regular milk. The more you pay, the higher the percentage of BCAAs.
You really gotta chase sales these days.
last time I bought 3kg of wpi for about 40$ a kg. Before that I usually just buy INC WPC when its on sale at Chemist warehouse, its the best tasting big store powder
I hope I'm not ruining a good thing by saying this, but getting casein online is a godsend. It's slow release so it's there for more of the protein muscle synthesis cycle, and it's cheaper than the other types.
I still remember around COVID when every supplement just randomly jumped up astronomically in price.
Sad times
Everything just randomly jumped up in price and stayed there because people paid it
Prices went up to capitalise on the pandemic. Then demand dropped as people went back to their routine, but companies subscribe to "line go up", so in response they fell back to enshitification, and been doing so ever since.
Back in the day companies raced each other to be the cheapest to get customers - Now it's a race to see "how much are people willing to spend for less?"
When every industry is extremely consolidated with high barriers to entry
I'm sure my kids wouldn't mind if I just stopped paying for groceries to stick to the Woolies and Coles for raising the prices...
Summary of article: Too much demand, not enough supply from the makers of whey.
Can't enjoy fucking anything in my life because it all keeps going up. I swear to god
Wheymen
If it keeps climbing it'll be cheaper to buy it overseas and pay for the international shipping. You can get the same sized tubs from the states for $24.99 USD, which is around $38 AUD. The shipping takes that up to about $70ish AUD.
I'll have a pack of smokes and one protein powder please.
That'll be... A second mortgage.
Getting any dairy products from united shits has to be one of the worst way to waste money while violating your body by consuming that puss ridden pile of chemical garbage. no thank you
A 5.5lb (2.5kg) bag of ON concentrate (not isolate) is about $55USD ($82Aud) at Costco where I live. Where you seeing it for $25USD? Or are you looking at the tiny containers?
The US ones are reportedly not as high a quality with their lack of regulations on supplements. Lower grade, lower quantities with cutting agents.
The thing you get with Bulk Nutrients is they do testing and Australian with Australia having strict restrictions on supplements.
My Protein also used to be good, and tested, however their prices are terrible these days. Instead of good value 5kg bags, they need to cover the costs for extra packaging in smaller 1kg bags and throwing in those free t-shirts and bottles which obviously are not free, inflating the prices.
Will have to stock up on it at duty free
There’s no whey I’m paying these prices
I see you wheyed up the cost.
Yeah, marketing is working well. People eat so much protein because a gym bro on Instagram recommended his favourite brand.
If you go around the shops, one word jumps out on every food item now, protein. It's not a coincidence, it's the best new selling theme in the food and supplements market. Billions of dollars are spent on extra protein, while most people can get enough from regular food.
Not everyone is a competing bodybuilder chasing every gram of protein and perfection.
I stopped chasing protein grams years ago and haven't noticed any difference in gym performance or my looks. Only thing that improved was digestion.
It’s also the weight loss community. Doctors and dieticians recommend eating a lot of protein for the obvious reasons - fuller for longer etc. Having enough or a bit extra protein during weight loss also helps prevent hair loss and help with some muscle (hopefully the person is doing strength training with their weight loss).
Then there’s the chronic illness community who sometimes are too unwell to make food so a complete meal replacement shake ends up there, or small high protein snacks.
It's the influencers who promoted protein the most. Every YouTuber has their own brand that uses only clean ingredients, and it's better than the other guy's brand.
People look at these steroid junkies in their perfect lighting photoshoots and conclude it's the protein that got them that perfect Instabody.
It's funny how everything now shows grams of protein. We now even have protein water available! Like wtf is that? How unnatural can we get with these supplements now? Protein infusions maybe?
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Oh yeah I have no doubt. I don’t watch YouTube or IG so don’t have any influencer exposure thankfully. The scary part is too much protein can cause kidney issues. And with so many men not going to the gp, they don’t find out till it’s too late. One of my brothers mates had a kidney transplant last year due to unknown hypertension causing kidney failure. He was only 29.
And everyone is talking about protein. I have people in my office who have never touched weights in their lives or exercised, yet they're talking about how they need to watch their protein intake.
One bloke is probably around 120-130kg, huge guy. And he's talking how he needs protein during lunch. I don't want to be rude, but honestly, he should put the lunch down as the first goal.
Everything is based on protein today, it's the essence of life. I have no idea how we survived before everyone had a 1kg whey protein bag in their pantry.
100%. there's a good video on youtube interviewing a scientist from Stanford Uni who is a member of the committee that works out dietary recommendations for the USDA and he was like.. at no point in time has any dietary experts recommended the high protein intake that broscientists recommend (and GPs are terrible for diet advice, they are not trained in it). Nobody is short on protein except in very, very small numbers of people who are malnourished generally. The problem with modern western diets is absolutely not a lack of protein, its a lack of fibre more than anything else, plus way too much sat fat. The science has been done and settled for a long time at this point and anything else is pseudoscience.
Unless you're literally and genuinely a competitive bodybuilder, and you're just a regular person that goes to the gym, you don't need protein supplementation. He also pointed out that the long term effects of protein supplementation with isolates and stuff isn't well understood yet.
Its very strange
Unless you are lifting multiple times a week, and actively seeking to build muscle, the entire idea is completely mute. You will undoubtably be getting enough protein in your normal diet.
It is a bit strange how regular ass people are now concerned about their protein intake. Most people probably naturally eat enough protein to have no issues.
I do think that every meal you should attempt to add some protein bc it helps slows digestion and keeps you fuller longer.
I personally think most people who go to the gym regularly need a little less than the recommended protein intake. Like obviously, you need to eat more, but I think the fitness industry really hypes up how much you actually need.
That said, I mostly eat one scoop of plant protein powder a day in my morning oats because it helps with my ADHD medication, Vyvanse. Were it not for that, I would forgo the powders entirely.
Unless you have other independent risk factors - such as preexisting kidney issues - no it most definitely cannot cause kidney issues.
I’d like to see a law enforcing a minimum of 5g of protein per 100 cal for companies to be allowed to use “protein” on the label as a central feature of the food. Aldi is selling Hills “protein” bars that are like 197 calories. 4.9g of protein and like 19g of carbs.
My parents use it because they are older and have small appetites. I use it in baking so I don't need as much but still. The world is a bigger place than you think.
Coles has a 2m long protein bar shelf. There's now milk marketed with "more protein". Yoghurts are all about how much protein they have now. Even freaking granola has a "high protein" option.
This is what I'm getting at. It's been shoved in our faces at every corner. I'm not against whey protein, just the fact it's been so heavily marketed everyone is using it now.
And I was that guy too, luckily realised the bullshit in time and stopped.
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Were you chasing protein grams through food or shakes/bars etc? I’m a bit confused on the whole “half your poundage in protein” and the best way to achieve that (if I even need to). I guess it depends on your goals at the end of the day too. But I prefer to try get it all through food and have maybe 2-3 shakes a week
I was obsessed and trying to meet my target on the gram every day. I've done Dexa scans and knew my lean body mass, had that multiplied by 2 and got 140g per day. And it was like, 6pm, I only got 120g...run to get 20g more, or I die! This was going on for a couple of years, and I sort of got exhausted by it. My life was evolving around protein. I've tried every brand out there, did 2 scoops shakes and shit like that. Every meal was mental calculations about one thing only...protein.
I've seen countless videos, read so many books about it and in the end just gave up. I was determined to begin a day without thinking about protein. And did just that.
I just eat whatever I feel like, as long as it's healthy food. I've actually lost bit more weight and my digestion is heaps better.
As far as the gym goes, nothing changed except I just don't track anything anymore. I am not a pro, I want to be healthy and look decent. That's it.
If I were to calculate I get around 100-120g per day without even trying. And absolutely no supplements. If I have a low protein day, who cares really?
That's totally reasonable. So I don't understand what all your past anxiety about protein was for...?
There are lots of people who consistently don't get anywhere near that much. And that's really not great for a lot of reasons.
Yep. Some people will eat a salad, have some cornflakes and then have a couple pastries out and about before a junk food dinner and barely scrape 40g
And bank balance
Just look at statues of ancient people- Ripped as hell. Yet they didn't have protein powder or even a Gym with balanced machines.
Ye olde Instagram swole filter
The people they made statues of were Olympic athletes who probably ate a lot of meat.
protein powderSteak and eggs
That's why I prefer protein powder.
I don't eat red meat, and I don't eat eggs.
So chicken and diary products form the bulk of the protein I get. WPI/C is fine for a bit of a boost, usually with some sort of fruit smoothie
This is for all supplements. There’s a limit to go much of anything your body can absorb, and with our very rich diets most people eat an excess of nutrients already, then go and pump themselves full of supplements because of instagram.
It’s the GLP-1 + bandwagon effect. Everything in the US has protein now. Starbucks protein cold foam? That’s 5,000mt of WPI a year and so on and so on. US B2B WPC80 prices are heading towards $18/kg (to BIG users). Buckle up guys.
A lot of the new studies are showing the fixation on protein is misplaced
Yes, you still need a solid amount in your diet, but the people that are chasing the super high ratios just aren't really benefitting from it in any visible way.
I always buy my protein when its on sale now. I'll even buy 2 tubs to get me through to the next sale. And even the sale prices are 25-50% more than the regular price was a few years back.
Coles Online is currently selling 2kg of Musashi WPC blend for $40. Insane price at the moment. Might not be the best quality but $20/kg is hard to pass up.
While that's really good deal, IIRC Musashi's WPC blend is higher in sugar than a lot of other WPC blends. Not so bad if you're bulking of course.
Do you have a link? Only seeing 900g at that price
SKU seems to be marked as unavailable?
Possibly an online pricing error mixup with the 900g variant?
https://www.coles.com.au/product/musashi-100percent-whey-chocolate-2kg-1495598
Genuine question what is the difference between protein types? I mean whey vs plant protein etc. Usually I buy Nature's Way INP (soy protein) on sale $14 for 400g because it has a much better protein gram-per-dollar ratio than the others (so you can clearly tell I'm not expert) and I get the unflavoured so I can control the sugar intake.
Price and taste are good guides unless you have specific amino acid targets to hit.
Whey protein is the perfect balance of aminos for a human, since it's made from milk which exists to feed a growing animal. All other protein powders are worse since they have too much or too little of the specific amino acids. This difference also barely matters in most cases since you are probably getting enough of the aminos that you need, even before you took the powder.
The reason bulk noots prices goes up and its one of the cheapest is because the more expensive brands are price gouging.
So maybe people should be discussing the more expensive brands like vital strength , etc.
I use a lot of collagen protein and the prices are insane, especially if they add in some spurious stuff like green tea extract. Probably cheaper to buy cocaine in many cases
Just but bulk, plain gelatin powder if you want to cover your bases with the collagen aminos.
Found this article with extra protein* you can read for just $5 more https://www.reddit.com/r/australia/s/YOobHoUpo3
*When read while eating whey protein
I was wondering wtf happened. My usual protein powder jumped from $70 to $105.
How does something that costs less than $20 per kg in Thailand cost this much in Australia? Even accounting for brand name recognition and shiny packaging this just shows that no one questions anything.
✨ value-based pricing ✨
Brands don't sell things for what they cost with a profit margin any longer (cost-based pricing), they sell it for the maximum amount you're willing to pay (value-based pricing).
So too much demand because protein has become the latest magic nutrition solution for everyone, and no one involved in selling and producing the stuff is going to miss out on the chance to make more money.
Black belt protein is around $40 per kg and less if you buy bigger quantities. Any other good recommendations for good tasting protein?
I switched to them after Bulk noots got a bit too expensive for me. It's not bad but the "Nutella" flavour is more like a mild hazelnut flavour, not a complaint just wish I could drink protein diabetes.
Let me guess... there is some sort of problem or natural disaster which has affected the supply chain, so the prices go up.
Only for the supply chain problem to magically go away and prices never return to normal again. So the new normal prices is 50-100% higher.
They pulled the same bullshit with Chocolate, Potato, and all other sorts of products for the last 10 years.
So why is cheese so damb expensive then, if it’s just a byproduct of whey production…
I just wish bulk nutrients protein powder tasted better. I buy exclusively from them because they’re Aussie, they have thorough testing, and they’re cheap. But damn the prices have gone up and all of their flavours taste super weak. The chocolate tastes like it was wafted past a chocolate bar at some point and the peanut butter chocolate tastes like cheap candles. The vanilla is the only decent one imo because it’s inherently more bland.
Health and fitness trends unfortunately
In my opinion, if you notice, most of the proteins are outsourced in China. Because of the air and water pollution, even if it's organic, it's going to be really low quality, yet the prices are going up high.
I'm trying to avoid it like a pest, but unfortunately I'm not aware of any supplement company that doesn't use any Chinese products.
The best I'm doing for now is using Amazonia Raw because of their heavy testing but still If I could avoid it I'll be happier
Professional Whey sells a plain 20kg sack of 100% Australian WPC for $30/kg.
Everyone paying premiums to import a cheap industrial by-product from dumpster fire dairy industries when we have probably the cleanest, highest quality dairy industry in the world right here. The only contender is... NZ... and their bulk WPC is also cheap AF.
Nothing Naughty sources from NZ manufacturers that fall under Australian and NZ food regulation laws.
They don't test their own stuff independently unfortunately but since they fall under food regulations I'm happy to take it.
Thank you for the tip, I'll check it out right away
It popular. Time to price gouge it
there's still some affordable wpc out there.. focal nutrition is the cheapest you will get $33 a kilo with free shipping if great
Do they provide test certification
I remember being able to get 6kg for 120 bucks from Black Belt Protein! I miss those days
So the answer is because demand is high and they can get away with it
The cheapest Protein Powder I can find currently is INC Plant Protein 2kg at chemist warehouse ($26.25/kg, 73.3g protein per 100g, therefore 27.9g protein per dollar cost.
The cheapest Whey Protein Concentrate seems to be Vital Strength Hydroxy Ripped Thermogenic Protein Powder Vanilla 2kg which is half price at chemist warehouse ($33.30/kg, 75.7% protein and therefore 22.7g protein per dollar cost).
Casein protein is also pretty cheap from BlackBelt protein ($34/kg, 77.6% protein, 22.8g protein per dollar cost).
proteinpowderhelper.com can be used to compare different protein powder so you can easily see which protein powder is currently the best value.
You can filter by preferred type (vegan/ Whey Isolate/ Concentrate etc. ) and sort by grams of protein per dollar cost to check which protein is actually good value based on the protein content. You can also compare protein % and other macros of different protein powders.
Before reading the article, is it because the demand for protein powder has increased significantly?
The demand for RAM and SSDs has increased significantly, the demand for housing has increased significantly etc.
It’s the same cock and bull story for everything.
For WPC, it was consistently $15/kg around 2012
VPA? Just over $58/kg for WPI if you buy a 4 pack and free shipping. Disperses well, good flavours.
Around 100 bucks for 5kg few years back seems almost like a dream. Whey is nearly going up the same rate as gold lmao. Recent studies about lead in cheaper green proteins doesn't help either..
Need more reguwheytions on price hikes for everything.
No gains
It was $45 per kg of WPI last January. Should’ve invested in tonnes of WPI a year ago, up 50%.
laughs in pea & rice protein
cheaper than whey, the combo is a complete protein, and the little bit of fibre left in the isolate prevent the decaying fetid bog corpse farts. Anyone still sticking with whey at this point needs to do more brain reps, paying more for less amino profile control
All ears if you have one that isn’t super high in sodium compared to whey
I agree that plant protein is all you need. The only dairy I eat is a little yogurt with fruit at morning tea. All my other protein comes from pea and rice protein powder, tofu, rice and legumes, meat (lean chicken breast, fish, shellfish), and egg whites.
Plant-based protein is cheaper, but it's still getting more expensive unfortunately. I don't buy whey at all anymore, just plan protein, and it's gone up about $10-15 in price since Covid, though not as much as whey.
(copied from above, sorry)
Usually I buy Nature's Way INP (soy protein) on sale $14 for 400g because it has a much better protein gram-per-dollar ratio than the others (so you can clearly tell I'm not expert) and I get the unflavoured so I can control the sugar intake.
I buy enough to get me through to the next sale, it's always half price at one or the other supermarket each month or two.
Interesting, thanks. I'll check it out!
Do you have any specific recommendations for pea or rice protein?
Do you have any specific recommendations for pea/rice protein?
No whey!
https://www.mensfitness.com/training/andy-galpin-protein-powder
Bulk Nutrients is the only brand that has given me diarrhea, so sadly can't buy from them.
I remember when you could buy a 1kg bag of NZ WPI for $25.
No whey!
I recently looked back at my old orders from VPA from a good few years ago now and it was 27/kg lol, went to buy some protein for the first time in forever and thought I was looking up the wrong stuff, couldn't believe what I was seeing
What about Mushashi? I swear the price of their products doubled.
Whey is this happening to us!?
To think Whey use to be a waste milk product.
From the UK originally and have used MyProtein for years, they have an Australian site and whey protein is always cheaper than everywhere else. Bought 3kg in recent sale for $33/kg. Always use code AUSSIE as gets 45%+ off, in recent sale it was 55%.
The price increase of creatine monohydrate also tripled in the same time.