the Paddle-Out? The Paddle-Out was super peaceful, and guess who came out to protest? Chabad of Bondi. Yes. The same group that was targeted in the Bondi shooting.
Arsen Ostrovsky is an Israeli lawyer who was present at the gathering too that was shot and survived who is part of Alan Dershowitz's legal defence team in the ICC advocating for Benjamin Netanyahu and Yoav Gallant. He's also the CEO of the International Legal Forum, an Israeli based coalition of lawyers who are responsible for advancing Israeli interests and defence legally. The ILF is also actively suing UNRWA, Colombia University and the Palestinian Authority in American courts under counter-terrorism laws, and amasses 10s of millions of views to his social media posts advancing Israeli interests online. He also received the Voices of Iron award in January this year from the Knesset for advancing Zionism online.
There was a police presence as evidenced by the fact police were returning fire with the shooters within 3 minutes of the shooting beginning. But yeah, ASIO has definitely screwed the pooch here. The final nail in the coffin was the obvious red flag when the pair left for the Philippines to travel to Manilla and then Davao, which is in Southern Mindinao and is a famous terrorist hotspot in the world. They explicitly declared Davao as their destination to immigration officials too. That should be a gigantic red flag.
It also took 2-3 years for their firearms license to actually be granted. They applied in 2020 and it wasn't granted until 2023. You'd think with 2-3 years of waiting and processing for the license that police were doing SOMETHING because that's insane to me.
There was also a private security firm in attendance. Some caller on ABC radio made a comment about them stepping up to protect people and how great a job they did.
Going by the photo Susann Ley, leader of the Liberals posted, I'm confused as to whether according to her, was this an attack on Australians who follow Judaism or an attack on Israeli's that happened to take place on Australian soil.
So when racists dumped a piece of ham outside the home of family of the shooter, we should just respond with "why would Australians care about a christmas ham?"
It's the same effect when putting a christmas ham outside a Jewish home. Pork products are not kryptonite or vampire garlic to Muslims/Jews. In fact, if they are starving, I understand it is allowed for them to consume pork products.
Here's a non-religious example: Gifting someone alcohol as a present would be seen as a nice gift. But if you knew that person was trying to stay sober, it would be an offensive gift.
Here's a non-religious example: Gifting someone alcohol
Errrrrrrmmm - Muslims, Latter Day Saints, and some Baptists would have to discern whether you knew that their religion prohibited it before they could decide whether it was a nice gift. They might accept it, as a gift - but not use it themselves.
The same as your person staying sober might take offence at your thoughtless gift - or accept it as a gift and pass it on to somebody else without making a thing of it
A piece of ham attacks the fundamental religion and identity of Muslims. A keffiyeh does not, because Israel is not the source of the fundamental religion and identity of Jews as evidenced by the number of Antizionist Jews and Pro Palestine Jews that exist worldwide.
There are so many antizionists that of the thousands of synagogues in the world, I can count the number of antizionist congregations on my hands. Truly, antizionist Jews are the normative representative of Jewish feelings towards Israel as demonstrated by the fact that they make up less than 5% of all Jews.
Either it's not a fundamental of Judaism and shouldn't be held against people or it is and thus Judaism should have its promotion and displays of symbolism outlawed under hate speech laws because it's inherently a hateful ideology that has lead to a genocide and the suffering and oppression of millions of Palestinians and doesn't belong in Australia.
Which one is it? Because if Zionism and the promotion of the state of Israel and its horrific war crimes over the past 80 years is truly inherently a fundamental of Judaism, the ideology needs to removed and dismantled entirely.
Given the terrorists who hijacked israeli civilian passenger jets in the 1970s also wore the same scarf, not sure how it can not be interpreted as an act of hatred or at the minimum a deliberate act to provoke distress
Your whole entire leftist ideology is being rejected by the voting population and all your protests have come to naught when it comes to meaningful outcomes (or any outcomes). Lol
Yeah, because the ALP and Albo are big supporters for the pro Palestine protests and was against Israeli in the Gaza war after Oct 2023... Oh wait...
The fact you are using the ALP massive victory and the loss of 3/4 Greens seats and their pathetic attempt to win in Wills, Vic as some of kind pro Palestine march victory is actually laughable.
Recognition of Palestine was literally an explicit Labor election promise way back in 2021 for the 2022 election. It's why Fatima Payman voted for recognition to keep said election promise.
I think your comments are a not so subtle attempt to associate a piece of cultural clothing with islamic terrorism.
Not every Palestinian who wears a scarf is a hamas terrorist, but any person waving an israeli flag is supporting apartheid, war, genocide and an ethnostate.
A scarf is not a symbol of terror, but that blue and white flag is.
I don't think you are communicating in good faith and you are spreading hate during a very hard time for many Australians.
Hmmm let’s see
1. Hamas is a terrorist organisation
2. Their most prolific and lionised leader, Yaha Sinwar, wore that scarf frequently (in fact he wore it when he was killed)
3. He would also wear the scarf in formal contexts, as a type of uniform
Therefore that scarf represents Hamas, which represents terror. Ergo the scarf represents terror
That's because said culture is virtually synonymous with terrorism. We grew up watching Arafat wear the same style garb on his head, it's literally a visual byword at this point.
Given the terrorists who hijacked israeli civilian passenger jets in the 1970s also wore the same scarf, not sure how it can not be interpreted as an act of hatred or at the minimum a deliberate act to provoke distress
The keffiyeh is a traditional item of clothing. Similar to the kippah being a religious/traditional item of clothing.
Settlers in the West Bank mostly wear the kippah during their acts of violence and killing. Does this mean anyone who wears it also can be interpreted as an act of hatred?
You're adding 1 + 1 and getting 1000.
This is conflating the acts of a small number of individual extremists, and putting their actions onto an entire population or group of people based on their race, religion, or solidarity with those people.
The only people who are offended are those seeing all Palestinians, or their allies, as "the enemy", regardless of their individual actions.
"Why are genocidal apartheid ethnostate supporters offended by a scarf worn by a descendant of holocaust survivors."
If you want to know why Australian jews are being killed, it is because of people like you. You created the climate of hate that has festered, and has culminated in this tragedy.
The bridge march with the burning australian flags, the potraits of the ayatollah, the flags of prescribed terror organisations... thank you for proving my point.
The only point you're proving is that zionism is incompatible with Australian society
The same way extremist islam is incompatible with Australian society.
zionism is the hamas / ISIS of Judaism. Extremists that spread violence, racism and hate.
There are plenty of jews who are anti israel and anti zionist. Jews with morals and a conscience, that people like you no doubt claim are self-hating Jews.
We do not want extremists . Extremists are not welcome and never have been.
People are waking up to this and are no longer falling for the zionist propaganda.
This must be a really confusing and conflicted time because on one has there has been a terrorist attack in Australia but on the other hand it was pretty much only Zionists that have been killed.
This is a false dichotomy. The memorial was for the victims, who were not all Australians by the way, and for Jews to gain comfort because these were politically motivated killings that were an attack on all Jews
I think this question is insincere and essentially denies the existence of metaphysics. “Why is that person offended by the use of that racial epithet? They’re just words!”
Nonetheless the scarf is emblematic of an ideology that wants all Jews murdered
The holocaust survivor thing has nothing to do with it. It grants her no special status, in the same way that other holocaust survivor descendants in the crowd have no special status. Referring to point 2 above, the scarf is emblematic of an ideology that wants all Jews murdered
Do you have anything to support the claim that a Keffiyeh is “emblematic of an ideology that wants all Jews murdered”? As far as I can tell it’s just a scarf that was historically practical in the desert and in modern history has become a symbol of Palestinian identity.
If they weren't too scared to object to it, they sure are now. Look at the vitriol that one person got for it even if they were Jewish, holocaust survivor, anti-genocide, etc. It's chilling.
I mean, one of the victims was born in Israel. And a French man was killed. I don't object to flags reflecting the birthplaces of the victims being at the memorial, TBH.
That, in my view, is an affront to Jews who are Aussies, not Israeli.
Are you a Jewish Australian?
I get that but that's not what was happening and you know it
I'm not in Sydney so what I "know" is from photos. I've seen a couple of Israeli flags. I also saw a Russian flag, presumably because two of the victims were Russian.
What was not mentioned – despite Michelle wearing a visible Star of David and explicitly stating to the press that she is Jewish – was that she is a Jewish local who grew up in Bondi
almost as if the media wanted people to target her with death threats
What is with this ridiculous claim that since she is technically Jewish she is apparently absolved of being a dickhead and purposefully stirring shit up, the day after the worst mass shooting in 30 years? Are we honestly all that apathetic and blindsighted to see this for what it is?
It is actually abhorrent how people are even remotely defending this.
Do you really want me to list the plethora of examples where someone can be racist/ignorant/prejudiced against their own ethnicity/minority?
Let's give the shithead Candance Owens a pass despite all her absurd rhetoric and support of Donald Trump, just because she's also technically black.
The fact that she is Jewish has absolutely no bearing on excusing her acts to SPECIFICALLY cause a political drama after this massacre, no less, directly to the victims at THE memorial the DAY AFTER the shooting.
What is with this ridiculous claim that since she is technically Jewish she is apparently absolved of being a dickhead and purposefully stirring shit up, the day after the worst mass shooting in 30 years? Are we honestly all that apathetic and blindsighted to see this for what it is?
There is no absolvement required for peacefully protesting against genocide, it's a basic right and a moral right.
It just makes the claim that she is anti semitic even dumber when she herself is Jewish.
Yeah it was an objection of the mourning of Jewish Australians to be co-opted by Israeli interests. When a foreign country's flag is draped and displayed on the memorial site where Jewish Australians were targeted, it comes across as contradictory when these same people are adamant that no one should conflate Judaism and Israel.
Imagine after the terrorist attack on the mosque in NZ, the funeral and memorials had the flag of Saudi Arabia or Iran. I personally would find it ridiculous.
I've observed many Zionist Jews equally wanting to conflate anything Jewish with Israel whilst also getting offended when someone eventually does. Just like that bakery that was forced to shut down after claiming anti-Semitic threats solely targeting the fact the owner was Jewish when he's also been very vocal about supporting Israel, the IDF and responding aggressively to reviewers who had dined at a Middle Eastern restaurant in the past - thus invalidating their negative review because it must be due to anti-Semitism.
So a Jewish person wanting to mourn by placing the Israeli flag there is okay but another Jewish person also mourning and choosing to wear a Kuffiyeh is suddenly offensive? Is this a Jewish memorial site or an Israeli one?
Yeah I was at the memorial site yesterday and I found it weird seeing the Israeli flags hung up. It’s Australia, it happened to Australians. This ain’t Israel
I don’t inherently object to other countries flags being at a memorial if some of the victims were citizens of that country. Like if I died in a terrorist attack overseas I would like an Aussie flag to be there.
Loads of the people on the ground at the Hanukah celebration were either Israeli, had relatives in Israel, or felt that the trauma from this event brought up memories from the Oct 7 attack on Israel. There is also a Russian flag now now because this event was heavily attended by the Russian Jewish community in Australia, and lots of Russian Jews are amongst the dead. The flags represent those involved.
Edit: I’d also like to point out that there are a bunch of photos of Ahmed al Ahmed in hospital posing for photos with a Syrian flag scarf around his neck. He’s from the Syrian Australian community so it’s fair enough that he would want to show that by displaying the flag of his national origin. It’s the same with mourners, and the usage of the flag of one’s country of origin isn’t an unusual practice in a tragic circumstance like this.
The Israel flag is a symbol of genocide to some, much like the Nazi flag. She even wore the star of David. She's also a holocaust survivor, who's probably triggered by the politicisation.
You're ignorant. The Keffiyeh is just a traditional garmet. It's so ubiquitous that even fucking topshop ripped it off to sell as a "scarf playsuit."
It's also worn in Iraq, Kurdistan, Jordan, Oman etc etc. You're either completely unfamiliar with how diverse the Middle East is, or you're arguing that all of these cultures are somehow ideologically indistinguishable from ISIS.
I am accusing her of politicisation, and I extend the same criticism to some of the folks who are trying to festoon these events with Israeli flags as well.
Edit: also as I said in my OP but to be absolutely clear, threats of harm or death are absolutely unacceptable, and the perpetrators of such threats should be investigated, prosecuted, and jailed.
I’m surprised by the downvotes here. Observing that a flag is a political symbol is a very banal statement
The Keffiyeh is also a political symbol, frequently worn by Nelson Mandela in fact
Given that the perpetrators were attacking Jews as a group, and not merely random individuals (ie these are political killings) it’s only to be expected that mourning will be about the individuals and Jews as a group
So to accuse the mourners of politicisation doesn’t take into account the overall situation, because these are attacks on their Jewish identity and not just 15 random people in the wrong place at the wrong time
Is it not already an inherently political situation? What do you mean by how politicised some people are making this?
I think it would be better for the nation if this horrific tragedy and its mourning events weren’t used by some people as a proxy for (or opportunity to declare their allegiance in) a forever war on the other side of the world.
I understand that’s neither realistic nor feasible, but I’m still allowed to find it a little bit distasteful, aren’t I?
Her politicisation in the context of Australia, can be seen positive. As an Australian, I'd view it as an act of unity regardless of foreign policy. There was a Muslim bloke who laid a prayer matt and performed prayer for the deceased - why not stop him ?
Through the lens of Australia, it was a confronting reminder of deviating from our multicultural grass-roots.
Through the lens of a pro Zionist dual-citizen ; I'd see it as salt on the wound , as well as a threat to concessions and demands to be made for myself (or other lobbyist groups).
What is so "gross" about someone wearing a keffiyeh to you?
Obviously there is nothing inherently “gross” about some person somewhere wearing a keffiyeh, and obviously you’re geed up and just looking for an internet fight on this, but I’ll still make the mistake of biting.
From the article:
Michelle wore the keffiyeh because she objected to a moment of mourning being politicised.
I (supposedly like Michelle) also kind of object to (or at least feel a little bit instinctively uncomfortable about) a moment of mourning being politicised. I used the word gross to express this feeling in my Original Internet Post.
Michelle was also trying to politicise a moment of mourning by wearing that particular article of clothing, in that particular place, at that particular time, and to pretend otherwise is surely pretty disingenuous.
I also feel the same kind of squicky feeling about some of the people who seem to be trying to festoon some parts of these events with Israeli flags.
I could argue that you are also politicising this tragedy by talking about the political dimensions. You could say people wearing yamaka or a Israeli flag pin is political. You can say almost every conscious decision humans make is political in some sense. Even censoring political expressions is political. It's boring to point out how everything is political.
The point this lady was making in my mind is that people are being overly political in a very crass way, and she countered the Zionist politicisation of this tragedy by wearing a keffiyeh, a cultural item of clothing. Not a Palestinian flag, not a sign saying "free Palestine", nothing about Gaza. Nothing about genocide. Yet for some reason a keffiyeh is unacceptably political?
A kippah is a religious garment used by jews often during prayer. The keffiyeh is a headdress most often (in political circles) associated with palestinian terrorism and militancy. And in this context it is always about siding with palestinian «resistance».
The keffiyeh is just an item of clothing associated with a particular culture, as is the kippah in non religious contexts. Its only associated with resistance because Palestinian identity itself is associated with resistance. Its still just an item of clothing representing a particular national identity.
The kippah is not a political item though. The keffiyeh is. If someone (liberal, leftwing, islamist or whatever) wears one in the context of israel-palestine it is a political statement of support for palestinian terrorism. So no it isn’t just an item of clothing belonging to one culture.
The keffiyeh is not a political item in itself, you just see it as one. If someone wears a kippah in a non religious context it is a statement, and could also have political connotations, just as wearing a keffiyeh can. Still, just an item of clothing.
There is no context where someone outside the immediate cultural area should be wearing a keffiyeh. If a western man or woman wears one in Norway, Britain or Australia for example it will be a political statement and by someone who sympathizes with palestinians. These two items are not the same because as a non-jewish person there is no context where I would wear one unless I was visiting a synagogue or something relating to judaism.
Well ofc, thats the bit where you complained about how someone responded to the initial and innapropriate political action with a political action of their own, as though you dont ubderstand whats happening.
The person you replied to initially pointed it out in the post you replied to as well, if you care to remember back that far.
The people celebrating Hanukkah on Bondi Beach in Australia aren’t perpetrating genocide, and a memorial for those people who were murdered isn’t the time or place to be invoking that particular issue.
Neither is it an appropriate place for Israeli nationalism, nor a climate change protest, nor a political rally, nor anything else. Let people mourn the dead for a few hours.
No it can't. Less than half of Jews live in Israel. The Israeli flag doesn't represent Jews globally any more than the British Union Jack can be seen as a flag for white people or whatever.
Not unless we also hold a position that Jews as a whole are responsible for the Palestinian genocide. Which they aren't. Or unless we pretend that there isn't an ongoing genocide. Which there is.
And even if every Jew on Earth lived in Israel, and there were no Holocaust-level evils being perpetrated by the Israeli government, it still wouldn't be ok to conflate nationality with ethnicity. They are two separate things, and by itself that act of conflation is at the root of the problem we're trying to solve.
Point is: bringing a national flag - and that flag in particular - to the grieving place of a global ethnic group is itself a political act, and further, to then perform indignation at the presence of a Palestinian symbol and say "how dare you bring politics into this" is deeply hypocritical.
Actually, Chabad of Bondi literally sent their congregation leader to donate and directly support the IDF in the genocide, so... they kind of were perpetrating genocide.
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The people celebrating Hanukkah on Bondi Beach in Australia aren’t perpetrating genocide
They did though :/ they donated to the IDF, the Rabbi who was killed even went and took photos with the shells they paid for that were to be lobbed into Gaza. This is just denial.
All she did was wear a scarf. As a Jew I’m infuriated at how other Jews are treated simply for refusing to promote the Apartheid state of Zionist Israel. She wasn’t being belligerent, rude, or physically provocative; she was removed because she wore a scarf that said “I stand with my brothers and sisters no matter your ethnicity, because I refuse to be swayed by culture wars and division”.
And she was attacked. All these people complaining she’s politicising things for wearing a fucking scarf are absolute morons.
When did Australia become a Jewish country? I’ve heard some verbiage the last week that’s really unsettled me the main one being when I heard a news presenter say Hanukkah “is a great Australian tradition” since bloody when? We are secular but historically we are a Christian nation and we celebrate Christmas and always have. Stop the horseshit
It wouldn’t take much thought or heart to realise that at least some of the people at the memorial would be deeply pained when they saw her scarf.
I’m a Jew who believes Israel has committed genocide, and that Netanyahu should be arrested. And I absolutely support the right to protest.
But no way would I ever wear a keffiyeh to a memorial. The mourners are first and foremost human beings who deserve the opportunity to remember the dead in peace.
There are plenty of other times to shout to the world about the horrors of the Gaza war.
Conflating an attack on Jews as an attack on Israel is not right and we should oppose that kind of rhetoric on all levels. There are Jews that vehemently oppose the state of Israel and I’m sure would have felt offended at seeing their flag at this event.
Look, that’s fair enough - I had made the assumption that the people mourning were happy to have the Israeli flags there, because I know that at least one of the rabbis involved was a supporter of Israel.
But your comment makes me realise I have no way of knowing for sure that ALL the mourners there would have been glad to see the flags. So thank you for helping me see that.
I can on the other hand tell you for sure that there were mourners there who would have been hurt by the keffiyeh - which is why I wouldn’t have done what that woman did.
Ultimately what I’m saying is that, on the day that people are mourning their dead, we should behave towards them with kindness, and one part of that is letting them do what feels right to them. So if they don’t want flags or keffiyehs there, then that is deserving of respect. And if they do want flags there, then that’s deserving of respect too.
On that one day, a truce should be called, so they can do whatever brings them the most comfort.
For me, it’s not about what’s allowed. They’re both allowed. It’s about what’s kind and respectful, because it’s a memorial.
There are 364 other days where people can protest and yell and offend and challenge, and whatever else they want to do within the bounds of the law.
But to me, it’s crucial to remember that we are all human beings, no matter how much we disagree. If we can’t give other human beings a few hours in peace to mourn their dead before we go back to the fighting, then I think we’ve lost the very thing we are fighting for.
There were victims who were Israeli citizens, including the young man who helped our hero Ahmed after he disarmed the scumbag. He was also shot himself, trying to help save people. Does that fit your narrative of genocidal Israelis?
There were Russian flags flying at the memorial to honour the Russian Australian victims, and Ahmed himself has been wearing the new Syrian flag. Are those also political statements? Ask yourself this, if you were a victim of terrorism on the other side of the world, would you like to be honoured with an Australian flag? That's all this is.
Wearing the keffiyeh to the memorial was a disgusting narcissistic act of division at the worst possible moment. She wanted attention on her instead of the victims, and she got it
If you've acknowledged Israel is commuting genocide, then how TF is wearing a symbol of the genocidal state "exactly the same" as wearing a symbol of the oppressed state?
There's a time and a place, and the time and place to wear anti-israel protest merch is NOT the scene of a Hamas-inspired antisemitic massacre mere days after the attack.
A Jewish woman can wear whatever she wants. It was an ISIS attack which is a rival of Hamas. ISIS is anti Israel and anti Palestine and believes the entire middle east should be controlled by ISIS. Calling a keffiyeh 'merch' is downplaying the cultural importance of it.
Why is antisemitism being goysplained to me rn? And why are you tone policing me about semantics when Jews are getting massacred in the streets?
Edit: I appreciate what you're saying about isis and Hamas but ISIS has not claimed responsibility, and the alleged connections between one of the shooters and Isis are meant to have happened many years ago. Are you saying that Jews are getting killed for something other than the current war on Gaza, which has positively correlated with an escalating long term pattern of antisemitic activity in Australia?
The Australian police have confirmed they were inspired by ISIS. These is zero evidence that the shooters cared about Palestine and the genocide in Gaza which is typical for ISIS supporters. All evidence points to it being done because of ISIS inspired antisemitism nothing to do with Palestine. It can be ISIS inspired but not ordered by them explicitly. It is racist to describe a culturally important clothing such as a keffiyeh as 'merch'. I would never call a tallit or shtreimel that kind of language.
Ghoulish pro-Gaza protestors should show some tact and take their "protest" elsewhere. No need to harrass mourning families of those murdered by Islamic extremists.
Why go to a memorial of the biggest Jewish massacre to ever happen in our country and protest about Israel/Zionism? What does Israel got to do with the Australian Jewish population?
By her stupid logic, it would be okay to go to mosques and harass random Muslims because you don't like something the Saudi or Iranian government is doing.
The Israeli flags went up about an hour after the prime minister laid the first wreath. The first one was draped over a fella and consequently placed on the pavilion gate. It was accompanied at the time with an Aussie flag too. I remember thinking it was unnecessary, being a foreign flag and all that. Not to mention the war crimes.
Everybody receives death threats if they put themselves out there to be offensive. Doesn't matter who they are or what they stand for.
Erin Molan got death threats for being pro Israel. Not just her but her daughter. But everyone will pretend she deserves it, or it's fake, or they're different.
If you don't want death threats over social media and email or anything on the Internet. You can't be revealed stating your beliefs. Welcome to social media and the Internet age. A bunch of cowards.
Also. Everybody knows that lady is Jewish. It was all over the news. Lol.
Didn't this ladies family die in the holocaust.
I swear this is the like that memorial before that was organised by Jewish groups but was interrupted by Zionist right wingers.
the Paddle-Out? The Paddle-Out was super peaceful, and guess who came out to protest? Chabad of Bondi. Yes. The same group that was targeted in the Bondi shooting.
Arsen Ostrovsky is an Israeli lawyer who was present at the gathering too that was shot and survived who is part of Alan Dershowitz's legal defence team in the ICC advocating for Benjamin Netanyahu and Yoav Gallant. He's also the CEO of the International Legal Forum, an Israeli based coalition of lawyers who are responsible for advancing Israeli interests and defence legally. The ILF is also actively suing UNRWA, Colombia University and the Palestinian Authority in American courts under counter-terrorism laws, and amasses 10s of millions of views to his social media posts advancing Israeli interests online. He also received the Voices of Iron award in January this year from the Knesset for advancing Zionism online.
https://www.australianjewishnews.com/australias-a-list-advocate/
https://aijac.org.au/australia-israel-review/surviving-bondi/
He was probably one of the primary targets of the attack I suspect for his fucked up activities as a gigantic lobbyist and spokesperson for Israel.
And yet with all these potential targets, no ASIO warnings or Police presence?
There was a police presence as evidenced by the fact police were returning fire with the shooters within 3 minutes of the shooting beginning. But yeah, ASIO has definitely screwed the pooch here. The final nail in the coffin was the obvious red flag when the pair left for the Philippines to travel to Manilla and then Davao, which is in Southern Mindinao and is a famous terrorist hotspot in the world. They explicitly declared Davao as their destination to immigration officials too. That should be a gigantic red flag.
It also took 2-3 years for their firearms license to actually be granted. They applied in 2020 and it wasn't granted until 2023. You'd think with 2-3 years of waiting and processing for the license that police were doing SOMETHING because that's insane to me.
You're right, it should have been greater police presence.
There was also a private security firm in attendance. Some caller on ABC radio made a comment about them stepping up to protect people and how great a job they did.
Oh...
Things you need to ask yourself:
Was this a memorial for Zionists or Australians?
Why would Australians care about a scarf?
Why are genocidal apartheid ethnostate supporters offended by a scarf worn by a descendant of holocaust survivors.
I think she had issues with the Israeli flag being put down with the memorial flowers
Going by the photo Susann Ley, leader of the Liberals posted, I'm confused as to whether according to her, was this an attack on Australians who follow Judaism or an attack on Israeli's that happened to take place on Australian soil.
The People’s Front of Judea? wait, the other one…
FUCK OFF! WE'RE THE JUDEAN PEOPLE'S FRONT!
they’re one and the same to her i assume
It was originally meant to be for Australian Jews until someone put Israel flags on it.
A holocaust survivor seeing it was probably triggered by the past trauma.
A list of loaded questions isn't a persuasive argument
So when racists dumped a piece of ham outside the home of family of the shooter, we should just respond with "why would Australians care about a christmas ham?"
I don’t get the whole obsession with the pork products, they’re not kosher either so it’s disrespectful to both right?
It's the same effect when putting a christmas ham outside a Jewish home. Pork products are not kryptonite or vampire garlic to Muslims/Jews. In fact, if they are starving, I understand it is allowed for them to consume pork products.
Here's a non-religious example: Gifting someone alcohol as a present would be seen as a nice gift. But if you knew that person was trying to stay sober, it would be an offensive gift.
Errrrrrrmmm - Muslims, Latter Day Saints, and some Baptists would have to discern whether you knew that their religion prohibited it before they could decide whether it was a nice gift. They might accept it, as a gift - but not use it themselves.
The same as your person staying sober might take offence at your thoughtless gift - or accept it as a gift and pass it on to somebody else without making a thing of it
A piece of ham attacks the fundamental religion and identity of Muslims. A keffiyeh does not, because Israel is not the source of the fundamental religion and identity of Jews as evidenced by the number of Antizionist Jews and Pro Palestine Jews that exist worldwide.
There are so many antizionists that of the thousands of synagogues in the world, I can count the number of antizionist congregations on my hands. Truly, antizionist Jews are the normative representative of Jewish feelings towards Israel as demonstrated by the fact that they make up less than 5% of all Jews.
Either it's not a fundamental of Judaism and shouldn't be held against people or it is and thus Judaism should have its promotion and displays of symbolism outlawed under hate speech laws because it's inherently a hateful ideology that has lead to a genocide and the suffering and oppression of millions of Palestinians and doesn't belong in Australia.
Which one is it? Because if Zionism and the promotion of the state of Israel and its horrific war crimes over the past 80 years is truly inherently a fundamental of Judaism, the ideology needs to removed and dismantled entirely.
Placing pig heads on Muslim graves is an act of hatred
A scarf being worn is not…
Given the terrorists who hijacked israeli civilian passenger jets in the 1970s also wore the same scarf, not sure how it can not be interpreted as an act of hatred or at the minimum a deliberate act to provoke distress
No joke when I checked which subreddits you comment in and saw destiny as the top one I burst out laughing. I feel so sorry for you.
Your whole entire leftist ideology is being rejected by the voting population and all your protests have come to naught when it comes to meaningful outcomes (or any outcomes). Lol
Yeah, that’s why Labor won the last election in a landslide.
Yeah, because the ALP and Albo are big supporters for the pro Palestine protests and was against Israeli in the Gaza war after Oct 2023... Oh wait...
The fact you are using the ALP massive victory and the loss of 3/4 Greens seats and their pathetic attempt to win in Wills, Vic as some of kind pro Palestine march victory is actually laughable.
Recognition of Palestine was literally an explicit Labor election promise way back in 2021 for the 2022 election. It's why Fatima Payman voted for recognition to keep said election promise.
I think your comments are a not so subtle attempt to associate a piece of cultural clothing with islamic terrorism.
Not every Palestinian who wears a scarf is a hamas terrorist, but any person waving an israeli flag is supporting apartheid, war, genocide and an ethnostate.
A scarf is not a symbol of terror, but that blue and white flag is.
I don't think you are communicating in good faith and you are spreading hate during a very hard time for many Australians.
Tell me you don’t know who Leila Khaled is without telling me you don’t know who Leila Khaled is
Hmmm let’s see 1. Hamas is a terrorist organisation 2. Their most prolific and lionised leader, Yaha Sinwar, wore that scarf frequently (in fact he wore it when he was killed) 3. He would also wear the scarf in formal contexts, as a type of uniform
Therefore that scarf represents Hamas, which represents terror. Ergo the scarf represents terror
Putin wears a suit. Guess suits are a symbol of dictatorship.
That's because said culture is virtually synonymous with terrorism. We grew up watching Arafat wear the same style garb on his head, it's literally a visual byword at this point.
They called Mandela and uMkhonto weSizwe terrorists too but turned out they were right all along.
The keffiyeh is a traditional item of clothing. Similar to the kippah being a religious/traditional item of clothing.
Settlers in the West Bank mostly wear the kippah during their acts of violence and killing. Does this mean anyone who wears it also can be interpreted as an act of hatred?
You're adding 1 + 1 and getting 1000.
This is conflating the acts of a small number of individual extremists, and putting their actions onto an entire population or group of people based on their race, religion, or solidarity with those people.
The only people who are offended are those seeing all Palestinians, or their allies, as "the enemy", regardless of their individual actions.
Terrorist Baruch Goldstein was wearing a Kippah so now wearing the Kippah must be an act of hatred...
"Why are genocidal apartheid ethnostate supporters offended by a scarf worn by a descendant of holocaust survivors."
If you want to know why Australian jews are being killed, it is because of people like you. You created the climate of hate that has festered, and has culminated in this tragedy.
your comment history gives away that you're a Zionist, pro genocide and denied war crimes committed by the idf.
Stop spreading division and hatred - the Australian people are not falling for it.
Australians are overwhelmingly anti apartheid, anti war, anti genocide - the bridge march shows that.
The bridge march with the burning australian flags, the potraits of the ayatollah, the flags of prescribed terror organisations... thank you for proving my point.
The only point you're proving is that zionism is incompatible with Australian society
The same way extremist islam is incompatible with Australian society.
zionism is the hamas / ISIS of Judaism. Extremists that spread violence, racism and hate.
There are plenty of jews who are anti israel and anti zionist. Jews with morals and a conscience, that people like you no doubt claim are self-hating Jews.
We do not want extremists . Extremists are not welcome and never have been.
People are waking up to this and are no longer falling for the zionist propaganda.
I really feel sorry for you.
This must be a really confusing and conflicted time because on one has there has been a terrorist attack in Australia but on the other hand it was pretty much only Zionists that have been killed.
Yeah but according to this guys purity test, they were the bad jews for believing in the right for Israel to exist.
I wonder what is fueling antisemitism…
Could it be the nation committing genocide while constantly claiming that it represents all Jewish people?
No, it’s those damn redditors commenting in support of a Jewish woman!!
You don’t seem like a nice person.
Accusing someone of creating a climate of hate whilst also directly blaming them for a mass shooting - the call is coming from inside the house mate
You’re right, but you’ll be downvoted of course.
This is a false dichotomy. The memorial was for the victims, who were not all Australians by the way, and for Jews to gain comfort because these were politically motivated killings that were an attack on all Jews
I think this question is insincere and essentially denies the existence of metaphysics. “Why is that person offended by the use of that racial epithet? They’re just words!”
Nonetheless the scarf is emblematic of an ideology that wants all Jews murdered
Do you have anything to support the claim that a Keffiyeh is “emblematic of an ideology that wants all Jews murdered”? As far as I can tell it’s just a scarf that was historically practical in the desert and in modern history has become a symbol of Palestinian identity.
This racist right here, officer
Fuckin where mate?
Riiiiight
Here
I think that’s something you need to reflect on there mate. Not us.
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If they weren't too scared to object to it, they sure are now. Look at the vitriol that one person got for it even if they were Jewish, holocaust survivor, anti-genocide, etc. It's chilling.
I mean, one of the victims was born in Israel. And a French man was killed. I don't object to flags reflecting the birthplaces of the victims being at the memorial, TBH.
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Are you a Jewish Australian?
I'm not in Sydney so what I "know" is from photos. I've seen a couple of Israeli flags. I also saw a Russian flag, presumably because two of the victims were Russian.
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No, she wore the keffiyeh because she wanted to join in on the politicisation.
I also think it’s gross how politicised some people are making this, but the above claim is still disingenuous.
With that said, anyone sending death threats or threats of harm should be prosecuted and jailed, it’s absolutely unacceptable.
almost as if the media wanted people to target her with death threats
exactly.
She was also doxxed, no police report number, massive amounts of death threats...from you'd have to say a certain side because of where she was.....
and nothing done.
are people starting to do the maths?
What is with this ridiculous claim that since she is technically Jewish she is apparently absolved of being a dickhead and purposefully stirring shit up, the day after the worst mass shooting in 30 years? Are we honestly all that apathetic and blindsighted to see this for what it is?
It is actually abhorrent how people are even remotely defending this.
Do you really want me to list the plethora of examples where someone can be racist/ignorant/prejudiced against their own ethnicity/minority?
Let's give the shithead Candance Owens a pass despite all her absurd rhetoric and support of Donald Trump, just because she's also technically black.
The fact that she is Jewish has absolutely no bearing on excusing her acts to SPECIFICALLY cause a political drama after this massacre, no less, directly to the victims at THE memorial the DAY AFTER the shooting.
There is no absolvement required for peacefully protesting against genocide, it's a basic right and a moral right.
It just makes the claim that she is anti semitic even dumber when she herself is Jewish.
I think there’s a lot of antisemitism in this comment section; “oh no, it’s only anti-Zionism”
Lot of antisemitism coming from the people hating on a Jewish woman for wearing a scarf, yep.
Yeah it was an objection of the mourning of Jewish Australians to be co-opted by Israeli interests. When a foreign country's flag is draped and displayed on the memorial site where Jewish Australians were targeted, it comes across as contradictory when these same people are adamant that no one should conflate Judaism and Israel.
Imagine after the terrorist attack on the mosque in NZ, the funeral and memorials had the flag of Saudi Arabia or Iran. I personally would find it ridiculous.
I've observed many Zionist Jews equally wanting to conflate anything Jewish with Israel whilst also getting offended when someone eventually does. Just like that bakery that was forced to shut down after claiming anti-Semitic threats solely targeting the fact the owner was Jewish when he's also been very vocal about supporting Israel, the IDF and responding aggressively to reviewers who had dined at a Middle Eastern restaurant in the past - thus invalidating their negative review because it must be due to anti-Semitism.
So a Jewish person wanting to mourn by placing the Israeli flag there is okay but another Jewish person also mourning and choosing to wear a Kuffiyeh is suddenly offensive? Is this a Jewish memorial site or an Israeli one?
Yeah I was at the memorial site yesterday and I found it weird seeing the Israeli flags hung up. It’s Australia, it happened to Australians. This ain’t Israel
I don’t inherently object to other countries flags being at a memorial if some of the victims were citizens of that country. Like if I died in a terrorist attack overseas I would like an Aussie flag to be there.
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One of them was originally from Israel.
Loads of the people on the ground at the Hanukah celebration were either Israeli, had relatives in Israel, or felt that the trauma from this event brought up memories from the Oct 7 attack on Israel. There is also a Russian flag now now because this event was heavily attended by the Russian Jewish community in Australia, and lots of Russian Jews are amongst the dead. The flags represent those involved.
Edit: I’d also like to point out that there are a bunch of photos of Ahmed al Ahmed in hospital posing for photos with a Syrian flag scarf around his neck. He’s from the Syrian Australian community so it’s fair enough that he would want to show that by displaying the flag of his national origin. It’s the same with mourners, and the usage of the flag of one’s country of origin isn’t an unusual practice in a tragic circumstance like this.
Which Syrian flag btw? (I'm genuinely just curious)
The new one hahaha, don’t worry
There were many Israel flags as part of the memorial: https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/gallery/2025/dec/18/bondi-shooting-crowds-gather-memorial-in-pictures
The Israel flag is a symbol of genocide to some, much like the Nazi flag. She even wore the star of David. She's also a holocaust survivor, who's probably triggered by the politicisation.
But go on, accuse her of politicisation.
It was an attack on Jews as a group. So there’s grief associated with the attack on their identity, which is why you’d have Israeli flags
Yes you could argue that Star of David flags that aren’t the Israeli flag is more appropriate, but that’s really splitting hairs
And of course she’s politicising the event. She’s wearing a scarf that’s emblematic of the ideology that got those people killed
The keffiyah being emlematic of the ideology of ISIS? What the actual fuck is this comment.
You're ignorant. The Keffiyeh is just a traditional garmet. It's so ubiquitous that even fucking topshop ripped it off to sell as a "scarf playsuit."
It's also worn in Iraq, Kurdistan, Jordan, Oman etc etc. You're either completely unfamiliar with how diverse the Middle East is, or you're arguing that all of these cultures are somehow ideologically indistinguishable from ISIS.
So you're either ignorant or racist. Which is it?
I am accusing her of politicisation, and I extend the same criticism to some of the folks who are trying to festoon these events with Israeli flags as well.
Edit: also as I said in my OP but to be absolutely clear, threats of harm or death are absolutely unacceptable, and the perpetrators of such threats should be investigated, prosecuted, and jailed.
I’m surprised by the downvotes here. Observing that a flag is a political symbol is a very banal statement
The Keffiyeh is also a political symbol, frequently worn by Nelson Mandela in fact
Given that the perpetrators were attacking Jews as a group, and not merely random individuals (ie these are political killings) it’s only to be expected that mourning will be about the individuals and Jews as a group
So to accuse the mourners of politicisation doesn’t take into account the overall situation, because these are attacks on their Jewish identity and not just 15 random people in the wrong place at the wrong time
Is it not already an inherently political situation? What do you mean by how politicised some people are making this?
I think it would be better for the nation if this horrific tragedy and its mourning events weren’t used by some people as a proxy for (or opportunity to declare their allegiance in) a forever war on the other side of the world.
I understand that’s neither realistic nor feasible, but I’m still allowed to find it a little bit distasteful, aren’t I?
It’s completely distasteful that these events are turning political.
Imagine at any public memorials for the Bondi Junction Victims or any bushfire victims and people start shouting about climate change etc.
This even is a tragedy for the entire country and these public memorials should be an about honouring the dead.
Her politicisation in the context of Australia, can be seen positive. As an Australian, I'd view it as an act of unity regardless of foreign policy. There was a Muslim bloke who laid a prayer matt and performed prayer for the deceased - why not stop him ?
Through the lens of Australia, it was a confronting reminder of deviating from our multicultural grass-roots.
Through the lens of a pro Zionist dual-citizen ; I'd see it as salt on the wound , as well as a threat to concessions and demands to be made for myself (or other lobbyist groups).
Even Netanyahu is simping the situation from Israel. 🤷
"Oh you wanted to counter act the politicisation of this tragedy, that in itself is political!" Wow how shocking.
What is so "gross" about someone wearing a keffiyeh to you?
Obviously there is nothing inherently “gross” about some person somewhere wearing a keffiyeh, and obviously you’re geed up and just looking for an internet fight on this, but I’ll still make the mistake of biting.
From the article:
I (supposedly like Michelle) also kind of object to (or at least feel a little bit instinctively uncomfortable about) a moment of mourning being politicised. I used the word gross to express this feeling in my Original Internet Post.
Michelle was also trying to politicise a moment of mourning by wearing that particular article of clothing, in that particular place, at that particular time, and to pretend otherwise is surely pretty disingenuous.
I also feel the same kind of squicky feeling about some of the people who seem to be trying to festoon some parts of these events with Israeli flags.
I could argue that you are also politicising this tragedy by talking about the political dimensions. You could say people wearing yamaka or a Israeli flag pin is political. You can say almost every conscious decision humans make is political in some sense. Even censoring political expressions is political. It's boring to point out how everything is political.
The point this lady was making in my mind is that people are being overly political in a very crass way, and she countered the Zionist politicisation of this tragedy by wearing a keffiyeh, a cultural item of clothing. Not a Palestinian flag, not a sign saying "free Palestine", nothing about Gaza. Nothing about genocide. Yet for some reason a keffiyeh is unacceptably political?
A kippah is a religious garment used by jews often during prayer. The keffiyeh is a headdress most often (in political circles) associated with palestinian terrorism and militancy. And in this context it is always about siding with palestinian «resistance».
The keffiyeh is just an item of clothing associated with a particular culture, as is the kippah in non religious contexts. Its only associated with resistance because Palestinian identity itself is associated with resistance. Its still just an item of clothing representing a particular national identity.
The kippah is not a political item though. The keffiyeh is. If someone (liberal, leftwing, islamist or whatever) wears one in the context of israel-palestine it is a political statement of support for palestinian terrorism. So no it isn’t just an item of clothing belonging to one culture.
The keffiyeh is not a political item in itself, you just see it as one. If someone wears a kippah in a non religious context it is a statement, and could also have political connotations, just as wearing a keffiyeh can. Still, just an item of clothing.
There is no context where someone outside the immediate cultural area should be wearing a keffiyeh. If a western man or woman wears one in Norway, Britain or Australia for example it will be a political statement and by someone who sympathizes with palestinians. These two items are not the same because as a non-jewish person there is no context where I would wear one unless I was visiting a synagogue or something relating to judaism.
You're the disengenuous one here, feller.
Please tell me what I’m being disingenuous about, I promise I’ll reflect honestly on your feedback, because I don’t want to be disingenuous.
Well ofc, thats the bit where you complained about how someone responded to the initial and innapropriate political action with a political action of their own, as though you dont ubderstand whats happening.
The person you replied to initially pointed it out in the post you replied to as well, if you care to remember back that far.
Yeah nah
Are we really calling an anti-genocide position a political position now?
I mean, really?
The people celebrating Hanukkah on Bondi Beach in Australia aren’t perpetrating genocide, and a memorial for those people who were murdered isn’t the time or place to be invoking that particular issue.
Neither is it an appropriate place for Israeli nationalism, nor a climate change protest, nor a political rally, nor anything else. Let people mourn the dead for a few hours.
So why did the Israeli flag need to be there?
It can be seen as a flag for jews as a whole. Rather simple
Plus its more available
No it can't. Less than half of Jews live in Israel. The Israeli flag doesn't represent Jews globally any more than the British Union Jack can be seen as a flag for white people or whatever.
Not unless we also hold a position that Jews as a whole are responsible for the Palestinian genocide. Which they aren't. Or unless we pretend that there isn't an ongoing genocide. Which there is.
And even if every Jew on Earth lived in Israel, and there were no Holocaust-level evils being perpetrated by the Israeli government, it still wouldn't be ok to conflate nationality with ethnicity. They are two separate things, and by itself that act of conflation is at the root of the problem we're trying to solve.
Point is: bringing a national flag - and that flag in particular - to the grieving place of a global ethnic group is itself a political act, and further, to then perform indignation at the presence of a Palestinian symbol and say "how dare you bring politics into this" is deeply hypocritical.
Actually, Chabad of Bondi literally sent their congregation leader to donate and directly support the IDF in the genocide, so... they kind of were perpetrating genocide. Link
They did though :/ they donated to the IDF, the Rabbi who was killed even went and took photos with the shells they paid for that were to be lobbed into Gaza. This is just denial.
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They had Israeli flags at the pavilion. That’s fucking insane.
The way our media portrayed her as some crazy lunatic terrorist speaks volumes as well.
All she did was wear a scarf. As a Jew I’m infuriated at how other Jews are treated simply for refusing to promote the Apartheid state of Zionist Israel. She wasn’t being belligerent, rude, or physically provocative; she was removed because she wore a scarf that said “I stand with my brothers and sisters no matter your ethnicity, because I refuse to be swayed by culture wars and division”.
And she was attacked. All these people complaining she’s politicising things for wearing a fucking scarf are absolute morons.
When did Australia become a Jewish country? I’ve heard some verbiage the last week that’s really unsettled me the main one being when I heard a news presenter say Hanukkah “is a great Australian tradition” since bloody when? We are secular but historically we are a Christian nation and we celebrate Christmas and always have. Stop the horseshit
It wouldn’t take much thought or heart to realise that at least some of the people at the memorial would be deeply pained when they saw her scarf.
I’m a Jew who believes Israel has committed genocide, and that Netanyahu should be arrested. And I absolutely support the right to protest.
But no way would I ever wear a keffiyeh to a memorial. The mourners are first and foremost human beings who deserve the opportunity to remember the dead in peace.
There are plenty of other times to shout to the world about the horrors of the Gaza war.
You realise the utter hypocrisy in your comment, yes?
I don’t.
I would feel exactly the same about someone showing up wearing a star of David or carrying an Israeli flag at a funeral for Palestinians.
What hypocrisy do you see in it?
Conflating an attack on Jews as an attack on Israel is not right and we should oppose that kind of rhetoric on all levels. There are Jews that vehemently oppose the state of Israel and I’m sure would have felt offended at seeing their flag at this event.
Look, that’s fair enough - I had made the assumption that the people mourning were happy to have the Israeli flags there, because I know that at least one of the rabbis involved was a supporter of Israel.
But your comment makes me realise I have no way of knowing for sure that ALL the mourners there would have been glad to see the flags. So thank you for helping me see that.
I can on the other hand tell you for sure that there were mourners there who would have been hurt by the keffiyeh - which is why I wouldn’t have done what that woman did.
Ultimately what I’m saying is that, on the day that people are mourning their dead, we should behave towards them with kindness, and one part of that is letting them do what feels right to them. So if they don’t want flags or keffiyehs there, then that is deserving of respect. And if they do want flags there, then that’s deserving of respect too.
On that one day, a truce should be called, so they can do whatever brings them the most comfort.
I can agree with this sentiment. Thank you for listening with respect and considering an alternative point of view.
Thank you too, I appreciate the dialogue as well
This is a funeral for Australians in Australia not Israelis? If the Keffiyeh isn't allowed, neither should the Israeli flag
For me, it’s not about what’s allowed. They’re both allowed. It’s about what’s kind and respectful, because it’s a memorial.
There are 364 other days where people can protest and yell and offend and challenge, and whatever else they want to do within the bounds of the law.
But to me, it’s crucial to remember that we are all human beings, no matter how much we disagree. If we can’t give other human beings a few hours in peace to mourn their dead before we go back to the fighting, then I think we’ve lost the very thing we are fighting for.
There were victims who were Israeli citizens, including the young man who helped our hero Ahmed after he disarmed the scumbag. He was also shot himself, trying to help save people. Does that fit your narrative of genocidal Israelis?
There were Russian flags flying at the memorial to honour the Russian Australian victims, and Ahmed himself has been wearing the new Syrian flag. Are those also political statements? Ask yourself this, if you were a victim of terrorism on the other side of the world, would you like to be honoured with an Australian flag? That's all this is.
Wearing the keffiyeh to the memorial was a disgusting narcissistic act of division at the worst possible moment. She wanted attention on her instead of the victims, and she got it
If you've acknowledged Israel is commuting genocide, then how TF is wearing a symbol of the genocidal state "exactly the same" as wearing a symbol of the oppressed state?
Ironic, you're literally inventing said hypocrisy by assuming the OP has no issue with the Israeli flag, of which they later clarified they do.
It wasn’t a flag.
EDIT: Reddit insights are great. This comment has plummeted suddenly with a high view count from outside Australia.
Lol.
Agreed
There's a time and a place, and the time and place to wear anti-israel protest merch is NOT the scene of a Hamas-inspired antisemitic massacre mere days after the attack.
A Jewish woman can wear whatever she wants. It was an ISIS attack which is a rival of Hamas. ISIS is anti Israel and anti Palestine and believes the entire middle east should be controlled by ISIS. Calling a keffiyeh 'merch' is downplaying the cultural importance of it.
Why is antisemitism being goysplained to me rn? And why are you tone policing me about semantics when Jews are getting massacred in the streets?
Edit: I appreciate what you're saying about isis and Hamas but ISIS has not claimed responsibility, and the alleged connections between one of the shooters and Isis are meant to have happened many years ago. Are you saying that Jews are getting killed for something other than the current war on Gaza, which has positively correlated with an escalating long term pattern of antisemitic activity in Australia?
Oy vey! Those dastardly goy!
Oh god its an H3H3 fan too, your poor brain must be utterly liquid.
I hope that one day the world will treat zionists like zionists treat the Palestinian people
The Australian police have confirmed they were inspired by ISIS. These is zero evidence that the shooters cared about Palestine and the genocide in Gaza which is typical for ISIS supporters. All evidence points to it being done because of ISIS inspired antisemitism nothing to do with Palestine. It can be ISIS inspired but not ordered by them explicitly. It is racist to describe a culturally important clothing such as a keffiyeh as 'merch'. I would never call a tallit or shtreimel that kind of language.
Ghoulish pro-Gaza protestors should show some tact and take their "protest" elsewhere. No need to harrass mourning families of those murdered by Islamic extremists.
This lady is a joke.
Why go to a memorial of the biggest Jewish massacre to ever happen in our country and protest about Israel/Zionism? What does Israel got to do with the Australian Jewish population?
By her stupid logic, it would be okay to go to mosques and harass random Muslims because you don't like something the Saudi or Iranian government is doing.
I mean there were people there with Israeli flags so…
Some people need to realise the idea of "Stop bringing your foreign conflict here" swings both ways
The Israeli flags went up about an hour after the prime minister laid the first wreath. The first one was draped over a fella and consequently placed on the pavilion gate. It was accompanied at the time with an Aussie flag too. I remember thinking it was unnecessary, being a foreign flag and all that. Not to mention the war crimes.
Source: I was there on the Monday morning.
One of the victims was Israeli.
Everybody receives death threats if they put themselves out there to be offensive. Doesn't matter who they are or what they stand for.
Erin Molan got death threats for being pro Israel. Not just her but her daughter. But everyone will pretend she deserves it, or it's fake, or they're different.
If you don't want death threats over social media and email or anything on the Internet. You can't be revealed stating your beliefs. Welcome to social media and the Internet age. A bunch of cowards.
Also. Everybody knows that lady is Jewish. It was all over the news. Lol.