Yeah, but still only in idiot countrys.
The sane rest of the world uses metric for horses
"In other parts of the world, including continental Europe and in FEI-regulated international competition, horses are measured in metric units" Wikipedia #:~:text=The%20hand%20is%20a%20non,fifteen%20hands%20two%20inches%22).)
I believe it's international, or at least in countries connected to the former British Commonwealth, which covers A LOT of ground. It has been standardized to be 4 inches.
People need to expose themselves to reading material. This is not an obscure phrase.
Exactly. Basically, it's only useful for measuring horses in specific locations and nothing more.
Even in the imperial system, it doesn't make sense, because it's made of another unit. They could simply measure in inches, but they insist on maintaining a stupid tradition that's even more stupid because this unit has changed throughout history. If you read an old book that mentions the height of a horse in hands, there's a good chance it's not the same unit as today.
Still used in America too. I hate it. Hands aren't standardized. Why the fuck are we measuring things with non standardized measuring devices? It's the biggest mystery since the cubit.
Yeah this is just a horse thing, it's global. Hands are really quite a good measurement for comparing horses. 13hh is a small pony, 15hh a riding horse, 17hh a draught horse, but that's only a sixteen inch range.
We were at one of these farms where they do like a petting zoo and have farming activities and tractor rides and do on - you know, for the kids.
The farmer was giving us a talk on horses and said about measuring horses in “hands”, it being one inch across each knuckle so 4” across the back of your hand.
My mate (20 yo dude) looked at his own hands and said “no way is a hand four inches across”. The farmer, continuing his talk and not even pausing for breath went “yeah, a man’s hand”
It actually is quite literal. A "hand" is exactly what it suggests - the width of a hand from side of thumb to side of little finger. It has been standardized to 10cm, or 4" in the US, but it is a literal hand.
A span varies according to the length of someone's fingers and how wide they can spread, so it's not all that standardized. Hand width doesn't vary as much as that. And I'm assuming that when the unit was invented in the like Medieval period, the farm girls all had hobbit hands...
all the weird units of measurement like inches, ounces, predate the metric system. everything had its own unit of measurement. horses heights were measured in hands. people's heights were measured in feet and inches. apples and grain, etc were measured in bushels and pecks down on the farm. people's weights were in stone, pounds, ounces. money was in pounds, shillings, pence.
with the French revolution they tried to rationalise and decimalise everything, including time. that didn't work, but they were successful in introducing a linked system of measurement that grew into the current SI units, International System.
It isn't common knowledge because it's a niche unit that only survives because it's used by that niche. Even in that niche, it's not universal and is historically inconsistent, since it changed specifications several times and in different places.
It isn't even a fundamental unit but a derived imperial unit based on inches. This affects its quality as a unit. SI was designed exactly to avoid this kind of problem.
This is a normal and standardized measurement of horses. Each hand is 4 inches, or 10.16 centimeters. This horse is 19 hands, which is 76 inches (6'4) or 193.04 centimeters tall!
Hands are a unit of measurement up to the withers of the horse. Which is the top of the shoulder.
Why? I don't know. The horse world has been one of the least scientific communities I've ever come across.
The horse in the picture looks to be a black bay and has four frogs, 19 hands tall (Doesn't include the neck or head), with a star and has a halter on.
A horse person will agree but comment on the frog thing but it's technically correct.
A non horse person will look at that that and smartly shake their head and do literally anything else with their life and avoid the unfortunate path of owning a horse, where as some will look up what all that meant and possibly challenge which is worse, horse ownership or gambling.
Tf is a hand just use cm or feet.
Get over yourselves and use real measurements.
Horse pple…
Dumbest measurement possible.
For example, both my hands can reach 12-3 keys across on a piano, while my gf can barely reach an octave. (8 keys)
How is this in any way good? What is the consistency? How tf am I supposed to measure a horse? Would I fail a horse test because I said he’s 11 hands while some dumb instructor can’t get anywhere but 22 hands?
Anyway, with that out of the way, Moose seems to be a good boi.
Mufuxers using Metric not understanding hands... bitch it's what you used before metric.!!. It's the reason yall forced the creation of Imperial with feet as a unit. /s
hands are the standardized unit of measurement for horse height (at least in australia)
And are there other animals that have specialized body part measurements? "This duck is seven dicks from bill to arse."
If that’s how you want to explain getting your dick out in the park. “No officer, I was just measuring these ducks!”
“That’s a whole new charge you pervert”
God only 7 dicks? Small duck. Last duck i measure was absolutely more like 40 dicks
40 dicks for you might be 7 dicks for someone else
Its only 1 for my uncle
Plot twist: the duck is still in the egg
It’s only a quarter dick from the ducks perspective
Well from the ducks perspective im a real pain in the ass
Are we talking length or girth here?
Length. If we go by girth, honestly it would just take forever to measure.
Who da fuck's tiny as dick was used for that 😂
Definitely not a duck, they got like a 5 foot corkscrew penis
I’m sure there is a wiki page somewhere on sexual arms races in animals.
The corkscrew dick is a response to female ducks anti-rape countermeasures and is just part of the ongoing war of the duck
That’s either a huge duck or a tiny dick
I've heard them say in horse racing, "He won the race by a nose". But I've never heard "he won by 47 noses"...
"AAAAAand the winner is Usain Bolt who snatches the victory by seventeen gnats' cocks!"
The duck’s penis or your own? ‘Cause some ducks would only be like 1.1 of their own.
They measure octopuses in willam defoe penises but it's corner to corner so it can be devieving
It is the standard everywhere.
Not in the SI, that is the point of the sub.
Pretty sure the SI unit of horse is 746watts.
Fuck no, it isn't. I'm pretty sure all of EU uses Meters, because we are not completely insane.
Edit: anything but metric for real - you folks are just stupid.
standard for horse height, not general measurement
Yeah, but still only in idiot countrys. The sane rest of the world uses metric for horses
"In other parts of the world, including continental Europe and in FEI-regulated international competition, horses are measured in metric units"
Wikipedia #:~:text=The%20hand%20is%20a%20non,fifteen%20hands%20two%20inches%22).)
Horse height is still fucking height and should be measured normally in metres instead of hands, legs, or whatever extremity they come up with.
Weird thing is they also don't even measure the entire height
Hands are used for horse height in parts of europe as well
Yes, in GB/Ireland. That doesn't count, they use pounds and miles as well. And they are a part of Europe only geographically.
And in England
I would bet most places too ngl
It's hands in America too. But I think a lot of people who haven't been in the horse world don't know that.
Ummmmmm….”in the horse”?!?
In Soviet Enumclaw, horse is in you
I believe it's international, or at least in countries connected to the former British Commonwealth, which covers A LOT of ground. It has been standardized to be 4 inches.
People need to expose themselves to reading material. This is not an obscure phrase.
A unit used internationally, but not a SI unit, that is the whole point of the sub.
"anything but metric" implies unusual made-up units, not just non-SI.
But it is unusual - Europe, most of Asia, africa and South America uses metric for horses. So the sane world if we're talking about units.
Exactly. Basically, it's only useful for measuring horses in specific locations and nothing more.
Even in the imperial system, it doesn't make sense, because it's made of another unit. They could simply measure in inches, but they insist on maintaining a stupid tradition that's even more stupid because this unit has changed throughout history. If you read an old book that mentions the height of a horse in hands, there's a good chance it's not the same unit as today.
They wonder about hands being a weird unit but are totally OK with foot-pounds to measure torque.
A foot-pound is a 1lb weight at the end of a horizontal lever 1ft long, so it makes some kind of sense. It's one of the least-stupid units.
I was mentioning because of the body part being used (foot) as opposed to hand. That’s all.
Many places and have been for a long time.
Also, the standard in the US (at least in Texas, anyway)
Still used in America too. I hate it. Hands aren't standardized. Why the fuck are we measuring things with non standardized measuring devices? It's the biggest mystery since the cubit.
It was standardized as 4 inches)
Show me a measuring tool scaled to hands please.
Here you go
Wha do you mean it’s not standardized?
My hand is different than your hand
If your hands are small your horse is bigger. A larger horse is more valuable....
Do you think, when someone measures something in "feet", that they're literally using the length of their foot?
No, tape measures are standardized. Hands aren't.
Yes they are. In horses, a "hand" is 4 inches
🤣 you’re joking, right?
I thought it was obvious with my first comment. I'm like this irl and my friends tell me I'm unbearable. Lmao
Oh, that's why he was called Mr. Hands...
But they ain't got no hands...
And we get shit for using feet
Also in the US
Thanks for explaining it's an Australian thing, cause we use meters even for horse height.
Global thing. Horses height is measured in hands globally.
The actual measurement of a hand is 4" or 10.1cm.
It's just a (former) commonwealth thing... not global
So if the commenter is from Europe, for example, they would be right in saying they measure horses in metric
I don't know what to tell you, in Italy we always used meters.
Like every other country that doesn't use football fields and other freedom units. So don't mind these crazy people.
Thank you, being downvoted for stating a fact is so wild. I guess this sub is now everything but metric in the sense that the users hate metric.
4 inch are 10.16cm, so closer to 10.2 if you want to round at all :)
Indeed. I misread something. Who rounds 4mm? Down to 101.5mm
What? Sorry, is it possible you mis-typed something?
Those people have never met a moose...
That was my first thought, those things are nuts
They bolt.
But they’re very studly
Hard as nails
“We called him Moose because of his tall stature and because he’s three metric tons of death and fury”
See, that I would believe!
I have met moose. That looks about the size of a small one. That probably didnt eat well.
A moose or multiple meese?
Hands are a measurement for horse height. A hand is about 4 inches or so.
Thanks! I was just about to ask why not use feet, which is a measurement limb i understand more or less atp. Is it the same in British?
It’s used globally, and yes in Britain as well as here in Ireland. Some Scandi countries will opt for metric (I worked on a horse farm in DK)
You worked on donkey kong's horse farm?!?
Yeah this is just a horse thing, it's global. Hands are really quite a good measurement for comparing horses. 13hh is a small pony, 15hh a riding horse, 17hh a draught horse, but that's only a sixteen inch range.
The US didn't do this one.
If a hand is 4” and this horse is 19 hands, then this horse is only 6.3 feet tall?? Ain’t no way, unless those people are all 4 feet tall 🤔
Horses are only measured to the shoulder.
Technically the withers
Which is the back of the shoulder blade
Bill?
Another reason it fits in this sub.
Thank you! I was wondering this myself and assumed the height had to be the shoulder. That horse is a good 9ft to the head.
*exactly
I think you may have missed the point. OP doesn’t actually care what that measurement means.
So a foot is like a size 14 foot, and a hand is a 10 year old’s hand. Makes perfect sense.
A hand is from the index knuckle to the pinkie knuckle. That's bigger than a 10yo's hand, as it's 4".
The King's Foot is from the spur of the heel to the end of the big toe.
Hardest burn I ever heard.
We were at one of these farms where they do like a petting zoo and have farming activities and tractor rides and do on - you know, for the kids.
The farmer was giving us a talk on horses and said about measuring horses in “hands”, it being one inch across each knuckle so 4” across the back of your hand.
My mate (20 yo dude) looked at his own hands and said “no way is a hand four inches across”. The farmer, continuing his talk and not even pausing for breath went “yeah, a man’s hand”
The joke
your head
This sub is about jokes regarding non-metric measurement systems.
A size US14 shoe is the closest US shoe size to 12”.
10 year olds’ hands are around 4”-5” from heel to fingertip. In hindsight, I should have said an 8 year old’s hand, rather than a 10 year old’s.
A horse that is 18 hands stands six-foot tall at their withers (base of their neck). So, Moose here is an impressive 10.3 bananas tall.
Things I learned: a standard banana is 7”. Or is it a metric banana?
Thats how horses are measured? Its not literal.
It actually is quite literal. A "hand" is exactly what it suggests - the width of a hand from side of thumb to side of little finger. It has been standardized to 10cm, or 4" in the US, but it is a literal hand.
so weird, it's not even an open hand, like a span, it's a closed hand
A span varies according to the length of someone's fingers and how wide they can spread, so it's not all that standardized. Hand width doesn't vary as much as that. And I'm assuming that when the unit was invented in the like Medieval period, the farm girls all had hobbit hands...
you must be joking, my hands almost double some women hand width
Are those women Medieval hobbits? If so, we have a science experiment on our hands! pun not intended
I meant in the way that it wasn't the person measuring the horse's hand, which is what the OP seemed to think lol
Fuck! You're right! Holy heck, how had I forgotten that horses don't have hands?? They have webbed feet.
Im sleep deprived 😭
I mean the person who is measuring the horse wasnt using their own hand, but rather the unit of measurement called a "hand" cut me some slack 😭😭😭
Oh, I'm sorry. I wasn't having a go at you, I was enjoying the absurdity. Looks like those three people only have 1 hand between them...
Haha, like I said, so sleep deprived I couldnt even tell
it's an old system unit of measurement. like a 'foot', not literally one's own foot.
Still fits in this sub since it's not SI.
Metric and SI are not equivalent
Right, but all SI units are metric and hand is neither SI nor metric.
Whoop dee doo
Not what?
The global unit used to measure horse height is hands. That's just how you are SUPPOSED to measure horses.
Also, you only count up to the withers as that is TECHNICALLY the tallest point of the horse when their head is lowered.
Fun facts: The tallest horse ever recorded was 21.25 hands, and the shortest horse ever recorded was 4.25 hands.
He is 2.16 meters
Fact
How did you determine that?
"Global", lmao. No it isnt, distance is distance and is measured in meters, doesnt matter if its horses of giraffes.
You're the god emperor of units apparently. Why not strike them down for their insolence
Moose do not have a calm presence. Do not mess with moose.
Hands are the traditional unit for measuring horses, donkeys, and mules. A hand was traditionally 4 inches; now it's 10 cm.
Horses have been measured in Hands for many centuries, in fact it almost certainly PREDATES the Metric System
all the weird units of measurement like inches, ounces, predate the metric system. everything had its own unit of measurement. horses heights were measured in hands. people's heights were measured in feet and inches. apples and grain, etc were measured in bushels and pecks down on the farm. people's weights were in stone, pounds, ounces. money was in pounds, shillings, pence.
with the French revolution they tried to rationalise and decimalise everything, including time. that didn't work, but they were successful in introducing a linked system of measurement that grew into the current SI units, International System.
A lot of units predate the metric system. That's definitely not a good argument in their favor, though.
I didn’t mean to suggest its age correlated to quality, more that it might be common knowledge
It isn't common knowledge because it's a niche unit that only survives because it's used by that niche. Even in that niche, it's not universal and is historically inconsistent, since it changed specifications several times and in different places.
It isn't even a fundamental unit but a derived imperial unit based on inches. This affects its quality as a unit. SI was designed exactly to avoid this kind of problem.
I have never ridden a horse but I knew OF the unit. Maybe I read marginally more than average, but I do tend to think it is common knowledge
Obsolete and arse backwards, yes, thanks for stating the obvious.
Ask mr Hands.
Hands are a legitimate form of measurements equal to 4 inches or 10.16cm
Not in metric system.
Moose.... "calm presence"....? Meese have more of a "snap and fuck you up" presence.
If you read this post in any other voice than Tina Belcher's, you are doing life all wrong.
Moose are fucking insane
"moose" "calm prescence" no???
To clarify: it's 0.020 Football fields (American Football, the one you play with hands, mostly)
Ah, but did you know it's 7.11 e -17 parsecs?
Ah, that actually reads better...
"Football sir?" "Yes, it's a sport where you throw a ball with your hands". I love that General Washington sketch.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand_(unit)
That’s how horses are always measured pretty much everywhere, this is like completely normal and standard
This is a normal and standardized measurement of horses. Each hand is 4 inches, or 10.16 centimeters. This horse is 19 hands, which is 76 inches (6'4) or 193.04 centimeters tall!
It's not. It's 193.04 cm to its shoulder.
I should have specified to the horse's withers lmao.
How did you determine that value?
I didn't. The other guy did
So it is 19 hands
You don't ride that horse, it goes where it pleases and takes you with him.
My horse broke my toes. She weighs over 15000 pounds.
😲 The school bus I drive is only about twice that. What kind of horse is so huge??
https://youtube.com/shorts/_DZKwCVKneg?si=TL6yLkVIi5dRW8vB
Horse? Hands? Reminds me of something.
17 fortnights
Why not lie and just round up to 20 it's an even number and nobody's fact checking that shit...
Instead of using your feet to measure, use your hands for height of horses
Steady heart and calm presence...
What's that they say about horses? They're only thinking of two things: Suicide and Homicide.
Hands are a pretty standard measurement for horse height it’s not just a weird american thing
Horse person here,
Hands are a unit of measurement up to the withers of the horse. Which is the top of the shoulder.
Why? I don't know. The horse world has been one of the least scientific communities I've ever come across.
The horse in the picture looks to be a black bay and has four frogs, 19 hands tall (Doesn't include the neck or head), with a star and has a halter on.
A horse person will agree but comment on the frog thing but it's technically correct.
A non horse person will look at that that and smartly shake their head and do literally anything else with their life and avoid the unfortunate path of owning a horse, where as some will look up what all that meant and possibly challenge which is worse, horse ownership or gambling.
A Hand is 4 inches, in the same way a foot is 12 inches.
There are a lot of legitimate imperial measurements and many of them are used in specific circumstances. Horses are measured in hands.
Tf is a hand just use cm or feet. Get over yourselves and use real measurements. Horse pple…
Dumbest measurement possible. For example, both my hands can reach 12-3 keys across on a piano, while my gf can barely reach an octave. (8 keys) How is this in any way good? What is the consistency? How tf am I supposed to measure a horse? Would I fail a horse test because I said he’s 11 hands while some dumb instructor can’t get anywhere but 22 hands?
Anyway, with that out of the way, Moose seems to be a good boi.
Ironic for such a self-righteous subreddit
Speak for yourself 😂
...
Ironic lol
Yea Mr self righteous being literally self righteous. Just take a number and state ur opinion, lol
lol
Lol
I never see this subreddit complain about things like light-years or electron-Volts. Why do you fetishize a unit system?
Light years and eV are common, imperial is relic of the past
Nah
If you think that's bad, wait till you find out when this horse's birthday is
Moose aren't renowned for being calm and steady, last I checked.
horse people are weird
Approximately 38 bananas.
At least one person in this photo has been fucked by Moose.
You still can’t cavalry charge a tank, but we’re getting close.
Mufuxers using Metric not understanding hands... bitch it's what you used before metric.!!. It's the reason yall forced the creation of Imperial with feet as a unit. /s
Also, ≈10.16 cm
Again, it's an ancestor to the standard SI.
Hands are the standard measure for horses basically anywhere Europe has invaded throughout history...
Moose are anything but calm
It's a traditional unit for measuring the height of horses, but it's still dumb. 1.93m btw.
It's even dumber because they measure it only to its shoulder. It's much taller than 1.93m.
4 inches.
Cubits
19 hands... Never seen a dumber unit... Since feet and inches...