I thought this was commonplace, at least I'm aware many latam countries do this, if you're from another country what are the federal law benefits?
In Mexico we have a minimum per law yearly Christmas bonus known as Aguinaldo, half a month of salary though many companies like mine give admin workers a month of salary.
This is enshrined in the federal labor law. Think of it now, what extra benefits does American federal labor law have?
We have profit sharing in May, we get 10% of the profit from the company the previous year. (5% divided per attendance, 5% divided per salaries). We get public healthcare, we cannot be fired easily and labor disputes favor the worker, pregnant woman get 3 months of leave and cannot be fired, 12 days of mandated vacation year 1 (+2 every year) + 8 mandated holidays, infinite sick leave, housing credit matching, retirement matching.
And don't get me started on above law benefits some companies give like savings fund (up to 3 months of salary), private health insurance, dental and vision, Posada (christmas party with raffle prizes), education funding, etc.
I've never heard good things about your labor laws. How come these things were not codified 100 years ago when unions and workers were strong?
I guess the mexican revolution had something to do with this, we've always been a bit socialist.
We used to but Ronald Reagan put an end to that.
Also thanks to the ruling of Dodge Motor Company vs Ford Motor Company the Michigan Supreme Court made it illegal to jeopardize stockholder rights to profits. Which includes paying employees.
Even places that do pay bonuses they are called “year end” now and don’t get paid out until February-March. All to save a few bucks on taxes
My annual bonus in Feb is tied to previous year stock and overall company performance. The final report for the previous year is done by Jan 31 and our CEO Announces results about a week later. Still no Christmas bonus though.
Also you don’t get it if you resign before Feb, although it is based to the previous calendar year.
Now you're capitalisting
January here.
We are told what our bonuses are during our Christmas party but don't get them until March.
My company used to. Nice, big Griswald-type bonus. Then the family sold the company to a large conglomerate and we don’t even get Jelly of the Month. It’s a big fat zero.
He modified labor laws?
And that ruling is like, a supreme court interpretation of the law, but if you made a legal amendment it would be erased, right?
In Mexico we modify our constitution and laws constantly. The Supreme Court seldom has many key things to do, just interpret details.
Yes, Reagan modified labor laws, hurt unions, made ceos too powerful, and created the homelessness epidemic. No one has tried or even suggested putting tax rates back to the way they were before.
Yeah if an amendment was made that would change it, but again popularity of policy doesn’t change policy in America. We’re running on the same faulty constitution we started with.
Studies show what the American people want and which party is in charge has no correlation to laws passed. Lobbyist spending is the only factor that matters.
That's very sad, that the people allowed those fundamental changes to their laws. It's like you're back in the guilded age.
Our revolution at the time was to fix these things precisely.
We are 100% back in the gilded age, the 2020s are just like the 1920s for us and that should scare everyone because when we slip into a depression it will effect everywhere.
Also, in the US in order to make a constitutional amendment you have to get both houses of congress to vote on it and then 2/3 of all states have to vote to approve it as well, it’s near impossible anymore to make that level of change (honestly, the most likely way will be us slipping into a depression which would make people finally start working together to make change like we did in the 1930s with FDR as president).
You cannot survive on our federal minimum wage anywhere in the country, yet they don’t even consider making a change to improve that. Instead medical insurance premiums just went up so dramatically that millions will lose their ability to pay for healthcare starting January 1st. Not that it was really affordable before, but this will be a dramatic change for the worse. Our economy is crashing while the stock market is soaring, this can end only 1 way.
We also need majorities in congress and states but idk why even so we change things a lot. Even when we didn't have total party control.
Because the Dems of today are on average a bit to the right of Regan. There isn't anyone high up in either party that actually wants to help the people. They are all owned by the same corporations and AIPAC
Thank you. And this includes the Clintons and the Obamas. I get so sick of people thinking that the Dems are going to save them. Obama could have passed Medicare for All, he had all 3 branches. The game is rigged.
Dems only had filibuster proof majority for 178 days. Americans need to be more involved in government, we bitch and complain but don’t actually get out and do anything. Our representatives are not going to push unless we are pushing them
Actually only 72 working days from Franken finally installed to Kennedy dying. (Jees, they work less than half the days)
And Biden, Schumer, Jefferies, Pelosi, etc.
All of them. I just mentioned the pretty ones.
Our system has been messed up for years. Our Senate was built to be like the House of Lords where rich people would essentially be in control because land gets more votes than people (2 senators per state no matter how how the population is in each state). Then we have the House of Representatives, that’s supposed to represent the people by giving each state more or less representatives based on population. BUT, back around the time women got the right to vote, they decided to stop that and put a law in place that capped the number of representatives at what it still is today. By doing that, as the population grew over the last 100 years, the people lost their power and that became a secondary House of Lords. It was in the 1980s when this finally became fully functional fo those that planned it out and our government has been in a death spiral since.
The people need to forcefully take back our power or else we’ll all just be in a big company town with the billionaire class as our new lords and masters. (Which we kinda already are in, but it looks different so most people can’t recognize it).
Also holy shit the gerrymandering
Gerrymandering will always be a problem with a representative style government but it would be significantly less of a problem if we had enough seats to equally represent the population itself. They can only gerrymander so much. NY for example could easily gerrymander their state to only have blue districts right now (once they modify their state constitution to allow it), but if NY got the extra seats to equally represent their population they’d get something like 17 more seats and some we couldn’t make all of them blue too.
The The Reapportionment Act of 1929 needs to be overturned as unconstitutional since it literally modifies the constitution without being an amendment. Yet I don’t even think this act is taught or explained and it’s very rarely known. Just a simple act that modified our entire system of government and set us up for failure if our population continued to increase, which of course it did.
MAGDA, Make America greatest depression again
Lotta dipshits believed (the lie) that it would make them rich
The ERA (Equal Rights Amendment) was never ratified because of Phyllis Schlafly (and others, but she was forefront) who helped convince American women that they didn't need laws for equal rights, and so not enough states ratified it to be added to the Constitution. Regan loathed the hippies in universities while he was California's governor--which is why our higher education priced the way it is and why the predatory student loan system is around. He also hated unions and fucked those up with the air traffic controllers, and propaganda that unions don't do anything for you hasn't helped. Nixon decided that hospitals could be for-profit. And then there's the Supreme Court ruling that corporations are people now.....
We absolutely are back to a guilded age.
But his wife was called the throat goat
His grave is a gender neutral bathroom!
Remember our Supreme Court is getting bought for
Yes, if Congress and the states ratified a new constitutional amendment. It would override a Supreme Court ruling on the Constitution. As they've changed the constitution.
The role of the Supreme Court and Lower Federal Courts is to interpret federal law and the US Constitution. Any level can make these rulings. It's just higher levels can override lower levels. But if the higher levels agree or refuse to hear the case. The ruling of the lower level stands.
Our constitution is rarely changed. As it requires Congress to propose an amendment. Which requires two thirds of the House of Representatives and two thirds of the Senate to agree. Then it must be ratified by three quarters of the states.
The states don't actually need Congress for this. They can hold a constitutional convention. In which case two thirds of state legislatures can call for an amendment. Then three quarters of the states can ratify it. But no amendment has been ratified this way. If a super-majority of states wanted something this bad and congress wasn't listening to them and proposing the amendment. They'd probably be facing general insurrection by the states.
How do you think he managed to fire all air traffic controllers when they went on strike?
He didn't change any laws that affected bonuses. They were always optional, and they can still be given.
They're still common in higher-paying white collar jobs. But, industries are moving more work to low-wage workers and cutting benefits, like bonuses.
Needs the be higher. Reagan did nothing to “end Christmas Bonuses” and this is an often discussed misinformation on Reddit.
There’s no federal law or presidential action from Reagan that banned year-end bonuses from employers or stopped people from giving them. Private sector holiday bonuses have always been decided by individual companies, unions, or contracts, not by any president.
If it was up to the president, we’ve had quite a few since that could have changed it back.
Blessed are the poor, for they shall be trickled down upon.
Nope, America has absolutely no mandatory bonuses ever. Remember we do not even guarantee time off for birth.
America is the country owned by corporations, and they make money by not 'giving' anything to their workers they do not need to.
My Christmas 'bonus' was a $25 giftcard.
Like, nothing at all? Do you even have a labor law?
Basically not 🤷🏻♀️ every single labor law is the result of a lawsuit. There's a phrase about "every OSHA regulation is written in blood" because it usually takes someone (someone rich or a LOT of someone's) dying to get a labor law passed.
I worked my entire career and never received a Christmas bonus. When I retired I didn't get a retirement gift either. My last job, I worked for the 4th richest person in the world. They get that way by hoarding all profits.
My grandfather worked as a low paid night security guard for a local textile place before he retired. He basically did nothing for 8 hours every night for a couple decades. He got more bonuses every year than I've gotten in my entire working career combined.
I got a lawn chair this year! Was $18 value so I got that going for me!
A law mandating bonuses? Lol. This is America.
I honestly had no idea that was even a thing in other countries
I work for a school department. As a municipal employee there are laws regarding how much of a bonus we could get. But I am part of a union and get raises every year. Not every one does
Bwahahahahaha...
Haha...
No. cries in 'Murca
The most very barely basic, bare bones, absolute minimum of labor laws to prevent your job from treating you like an indentured servant - sure. Labor laws that give you any real, meaningful protection - practically no. Esp not when compared to most other countries.
Example: The US is the only "major"/"first world" country with zero required paid time off or maternity leave.
Not really. You can’t hit employees, so that’s nice?
Hahaha, barely. Slavery is illegal but that's about it
Unfortunately slavery still is legal for the incarcerated, and it's big business. Look into private prisons.
you really are asking the wrong sub these questions.
There are jobs where it is illegal to abandon your position or strike, the workers can be jailed for it. No rights going to the worker though.
my boss is one of the more progressive ones and he gives us gifts out of pocket for xmas. but we're a small group of only like 8 guys so he's able to afford it himself. but it has absolutely nothing to do with laws or the company at all. he's just a nice dude. (and it's gifts of about a $50 value)
No
What do you mean? The US doesn't guarantee any time off at all. No minimum vacation, sick, or holidays for private companies.
Shit they don’t even guarantee a minimum 30 minutes lunch break. But yeah we’re the greatest fucking country on earth please🙄
You are correct. I've had jobs were i have to beg for unpaid time off to go to the doctor.
Well, technically there is FMLA, but that's unpaid.
If I remember correctly, you might not even have that if you work for a small company or work less than part time.
Need more than 50 employees, and I think you have to work there over a year to claim it. I never worked anywhere that had more than 15-20 employees so it was "exempt".
Lucky! That's $25 more than I got!
What's a bonus?
My boss gave me $20 to Starbucks, a kind note, and a firm hand shake. Is that the bonus?
If he isn’t the business owner he probably bought that with his own money and not the companies
Mine gave me a scratch-off ticket that she set on my desk.
I got christmas day off and I'll get paid for it since I worked the day before and after. Is that the bonus?
Jobs in the USA try to make it as close to slave labor as possible.
If they could, they wouldn’t even pay us to work.
They’d have us pay them to work.
Learn to Earn scams / Coaching scams are alive and thriving in this ecomomy sadly.
Just ask the president.
The privileges of internships! We learn on the job, we should pay for this education. Room & board extra.
(/S, I hate it here, and don't know why anyone comes)
Internships!
My grandpa’s first job back in the 40s charged him to work, basically. It was a mine. They charged for all your equipment. Pay was so tiny and the equipment so expensive that he quit because after 2 days labor he still owed them money.
The company kept sending him bills for what he owed for decades after.
They aren't in some places, the new administration is 'leasing' prisoners to companies for manual labor jobs.
For profit prisons have always been slave labor camps, which is why so many non-violent, minor offense, drug offenders end up in them.
Not to mention so many Black people. This is the result of the amendment that ended slavery in the US except as a punishment for a crime.
Wait until ICE starts putting prisoners in labor camps.
There are some politicians that want to do away with the minimum wage in favor or people deciding to pick at what price they would do the job. Meaning, if a company offered to pay 10 cents an hour, and someone was willing to accept that, then it would be okay with them.
Yup. The minimum wage exists because if they could pay less they would.
I’ve seen conservatives try to say the minimum wage keeps wages low and I’m dumbfounded every time they try that excuse
Awful idea.
We've been getting minimum wage increases of more than 10% every year the past 7 years and companies are still here.
Yeah, its like saying for decades that if wages go up, prices go up and since covid that has proven to not be true. One of America's largest grocery stores had to pay fines because they were upping the price on eggs because they could without justification.
Funny you mention this.
I’m from Nevada originally, and when I left, they had just raised the minimum wage to $12 an hour, from $10.50, and for years before that, it was still $7.25.
I moved to Maryland, where the minimum wage is $15.
Gas, groceries, and housing are all significantly less expensive than it was in Reno, NV. But the minimum wage is a solid $3 higher.
Yet people still try to argue that higher wages = higher costs…. Yet economics 101 disagrees with it too
Minimum wage is still an unbearable $7.25/hr here in the “great” state of North Carolina.
Yes, Mexico has surprisingly decent labor laws because they did fight for them.
In Canada, Christmas bonuses and profit sharing are optional. They used to be common place, but more and more capitlist culture from the south is diminishing that.
It's common enough in good paying white collar jobs for "performance bonus" and/or profit sharing/share options to be included in hiring contract, but jot guaranteed and performance bonus are often 50% of what's promissed.
Why don't you push for codifying it into your labor laws?
Right now we are fighting to reduce weekly hours, that's one thing we are missing because we have 48 hrs per week, we need 40 like the rest of countries.
We have stronger safety laws and here in quebec 37.5h week with mandatory breaks for 30min lunch and 2x15min. A good minimun compensation, but additional "bonus" compensation is negotiated when hired and that's ok with me.
Union jobs i've had here will include pay, bonus, and adjustments for inflation. So i'm not too mad about a Christmas bonus being optional when i'm earning well. Onlu the cost of housing is out of balance for the public right now.
Yeah that does sound very nice.
Keep fighting the good fight.
What's the point? If you protest here, you get beaten within an inch of your life. Also, most people can't afford to take time off to protest. They live paycheck to paycheck.
Fwiw that's true for most countries that require protests. Wide spread protests usually only happen when significant people are unemployed. What's truer is Americans aren't uncomfortable enough to be beaten, yet.
Very weak unions and a workforce that's divided by racism
Individual states often have better (stronger) labor laws than the federal government, but even then there are not any mandatory bonuses, no mandatory profit sharing.
What seems crazy to me is that people know they’re being screwed by their employers but then vote for the political party that squashes workers rights and gives corporations all the power.
Hell yeah, its 15 days of work here in mexico by law on december, but a lot give a whole month as a bonus
A lot of American jobs are supposed to be thankful they are even allowed to leave work alive that day.
I think Clark Griswold got the last one.
And he almost didn’t
Hahaha. I’m almost 40 and I’ve never had a Christmas bonus
Same, I’m 40 and have never received ANY bonus.
No. America is a fucking hell hole.
Yep, we are well on the way to becoming a series of company towns, where every aspect of our lives is the controlled by 'the company'.
It's true. I live really near Walmart Arkansas and it's creepy. They destroyed downtown areas across America just to build their own so they could cosplay the 50s.
Jeez
Remember, no mandatory PTO.
Or even mandatory sick days. Paid or unpaid.
It’s quickly starting to feel that way, yeah
it's not legally required; it's up to each individual company policy
Why would you leave these benefits on the hands of a party whose interest is to extract as much from you as possible?
This is why you need to codify laws. If companies tried to lobby our government to remove these things they would have a harder time.
Because the companies write the laws. They also control our healthcare.
Its not something I would recommend, but too many people are comfortable in our shitshow for anything to change.
It's a bit scary to know that the private industries have so much power, like the beginning of the 20th century.
It's like your government doesn't exist really. No representation.
It represents the powerful. This has always been the case in America. The New Deal was a compromise so that the USA did not go full socialist.
Trust me, based on the amount of taxes I pay, it certainly exists.
No. The "American Dream" is not starving to death every week, and then going bankrupt from medical bills. Absolute shithole of a country. Feel free to defend this USA people!
To quote George Carlin
"Its called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to belive it."
There is no defense, and we have allowed this to occur, we are the frogs in the pot of water slowly coming to boil.
Exactly. We've been slowly getting cooked since before Saint Reagan ascended to office and immediately went after the Air Traffic Controllers during their labor strike. (Fired them)
Prior to that, former efforts ranging from old school trust busting (breaking up Gilded Age monopolies), labor union fights (40 hour work week), women's voting rights, and onto FDR's programs like Social Security, or the later fight for Civil Rights. This all alongside the post war boom that had brought a lot of positive economic benefits about for a significant portion of the US population. Even the EPA being created under Nixon, no less.
Not universally or perfectly, as with Red Lining policies and their affects on home loans. That or any number of other places one can pounce on with an 'acktually' response of fine grained historic accuracy regarding multivarious policy failures. Still, arguably better times than our current culminating moment. That of the boiling frog cooker finally serving up that fully cooked meal of company towns and authoritarian rule to the oligarchs.
For imagery, Oligarchs imagined as sitting at their table like Mr. Creosote from Monty Python's "The Meaning of Life" movie skit from just before the thin mint finale.
America is a shell of its former self
Buddy; the only thing all of us here in America are getting is fucked.
I wish.
We get a yearly bonus is March, which means this time of year is starts the dance of hoping not to be fired or quit before I receive the bonus.
I got a $10 bag of chocolates once
Not me.
Hey rest of the world: all of these things that you shake your head at when you talk about us Americans are the results of the huge right wing corporate greed policies that people are trying to bring to your own countries. Don't let them in the door. They will never be satisfied with being rich and powerful. They will always be looking for ways to get more. We have failed. Don't follow us down.
Rest assured they are trying but we won't allow it.
I'm uk and don't get a Christmas bonus, but I do work for a registered charity and we don't get bonuses at all. Something I don't mind giving up as I have a lot of flexibility and slight peace of mind that I at least work for a decent place.
They're not commonplace anywhere BUT Latam/SAM I thought
Brother, I got laid off as my Christmas bonus
‘Bonus’? You use strange words. What is this bonus of which you speak? I’m in Canada and it’s a foreign concept here, too.
I live in Spain and we so not have Christmas bonuses.. in theory, many jobs are supposed to have 14 payslips per year, for a bonus in Christmas and summer, but in practice most jobs seem to just average it all out in 12 payments
Union officer here...
Unions have never had a strong legislative strength in the USA. The laws that legalized unions and set the standards (NLRA) were written in 1935 and then weakened in 1947 (Taft-Harley Act). Barely any attempt to update the NLRA have ever happened in those 90 years, allowing court precedence to rule. Biden tried and failed to even get his own party on board. Even at their height it was about 1/3 of Americans but not equally spread through the country, so union support was never a majority of the nation in Congress.
So for things like legal vacation time, sick leave, and healthcare, the unions had to focus on what they could get out of their individual employers, so those employees have those benefits but not nationwide. As I understand it, in a lot of countries the unions were able to get these things put into law instead because unions are sometimes national organizations, which also gives them more strength. Example: If plumbers in Frankfurt strike, other cities are on strike too. Here, Starbucks strikes are by location not even by city. Super weak.
Exactly right, here we had way more unions than now but still have big national unions for teachers, electricians, miners, industry workers and so on. Part of their pressure has prevented rollbacks to key laws.
Many years ago I worked in an oven factory where the owner, out of the goodness of his heart, paid every worker a $200 Christmas bonus
I left that job 35 years ago and that was the first and last job I ever had where Christmas bonuses were a thing
Most jobs don't pay a Christmas bonus, employers are under no legal obligation to do so and most do not
I was today years old when I learned that Christmas bonuses are required by law in Mexico
It’s not a christmas bonus. They’re just taking a portion of your salary and not giving it to you until Christmas
There is many to say about work in USA. Salary compensation depends a lot of the qualifications and compared to Europe, low salaries are very low because there is in most states no minimum wage. In the other hand high income are far higher. Bonus Christmas is really not the problem. Like in eu it goes from none to high and is not necessarily given for Christmas (why would it be when there is so many religions and diversity) . So basically my point is it s not an American thing.
Most states do have minimum wages higher than the fed rate of $7.25/hour, only a few don’t. The minimum is $16.50 in the state where I live.
It’s amazing what a little fear and racism will allow the ruling oligarchy to do in the US. Have a bunch of poor people vote against their own interests because of scary brown people.
Meanwhile brown people on the other side are getting the company sponsored Christmas party with raffle prizes.
Fun stuff.
We can’t have nice things due to our fearful conservatives.
My boss was like you're getting a $3000 bonus I was like amazing wow thank you and after taxes it was ~$1755
Still grateful, but damn you taxes.
I’ve never had a regular Christmas bonus. I do get an annual bonus (10%+ of salary) in March, assuming we hit target.
We used to. One of our most popular Christmas movies from the 80s is about how egregiously awful it would be to not get a Christmas bonus. Those times are long gone.
The powers that be would happily have us go back to the days of company scrip.
$100 “gift card”
But they deposited $150 into our checks so they can write it off next year for taxes.
Remember. Americans are constantly fucked over when it comes to labour. But they usually make higher salaries and work is tied with health care nobody is risking their job for better because they may get cancer and just die.
As someone who works in the US: If I didn't put any time off in for my work week that I saved all year (I put it in for the following sunday), I would of worked 24, 25, 26, 27, and 28. I put time off in months ago for the 28th just so I can go to a family get-together my family does every year. I get holiday pay for working xmas day, but working that day was *not* optional. They don't even want to give us time off, let alone even think about paying bonuses.
You have no vacations or holidays per law?
That is correct
Legally, American employers don't have to give you any paid time off from work
That is crazy. It's actually in the best interest of the employer to have well rested employees.
The reason other countries have lots of paid time off is because they have strong unions and strikes are a regular event. That's not the case here, so we don't
Not every employer sees it that way. A lot of our railroads for example WANT to burn out their new employees because they don't want to have to pay people the rates from the top of the pay scale. It's a revolving door of employees, but it's a model that keeps the rich assholes on the board happy and the services the companies provide just good enough to keep the business afloat.
That's everything that's toxic about American corporations and their top managers in a nutshell
Nope. Our regulations absolutely suck. The only thing we're guaranteed is, for my state, 40 hours of paid time off a year. However there is no federal law, so if some states want, it's possible for them to not provide any time off whatsoever.
I was going to edit this into original, but will just add it here: For reference I work in a call center for one of the largest phone companies (won't specify which, for reasons). Not in the customer service side, but on the side that assists with bringing numbers over from other companies. My department has no real need to be open on holidays but god forbid things stop for one day.
Federal....law......benefits....?....
What bonus?
The federal minimum wage is $7.25
Fck no we don’t have Christmas bonuses. You’re gonna work your ass off here for very little vacation, almost no benefits, and no bonuses and you’re GONNA LIKE IT.
NZ here... might might get a little gift or a hamper or something... but I can't remember getting a bonus in any job I've had since forever
"I don't know why everyone is leaving for Australia"
I got a $5 Chick Filet coupon.
Federal law benefits? ROFLMMFAO.
Retail worker here. I didn’t get shit.
But we were allowed to do secret Santa for ourselves, so…. Yay?
A key thing to understand about American job benefits is that very little is required by law. So it’s up to the company what kinds of benefits and bonuses their employees get.
It’s why when you ask questions like this, you’ll get a wide variety of answers. In my personal career - I’ve had plenty of jobs where you don’t even get Christmas off work, let alone a bonus. And I’ve also had jobs where you get weeks off over Christmas and a bonus that is higher than the median salary in other countries.
The US is a country of inequality. Great wealth and no wealth. Great medical care and no medical care. Great education and no education.
Australia here. Strong labor laws but rarely do jobs have bonuses here. Unpopular opinion for this crowd but it's much better that way.
Bonuses sounds good in theory but it's basically them withholding part of your salary till the end of the year.
It's not like employees and employers "forget" to factor in their bonus as part of their total compensation.
Put it this way. If you are offered two jobs - one that pays 100k and one that pays 90k with a 10k bonus at the end why would you pick the 90k one?
That 10k is now conditional to things like the health of the company or whatever your employer deems your performance to be. It's also withheld till the end of the year so you're now locked out of finding new jobs till it's paid etc.
You're much better off negotiating the pay that you want in a way that pays you throughout the year. Much simpler.
The only time bonuses make sense is for performance based work like sales where you're practically working for yourself. In that case you're in a high rewards high risk scenario.
Are we so sure we won the revolutionary war?
Some Christian small businesses seem to reduce bonuses, never offer benefits, vote against mandated benefits, laugh when raises are long past needed or asked for and then that's after they raise customer prices 50%. They claim to be leaders but they follow 40 year old bad business advice. SMH
Americans do not have mandatory bonuses of any kind. Or vacation. Really Americans don't have much mandatory anything at work other than to submit to your company and do what they tell you or else. And even if you do submit like a good boot licking lapdog, you might get the "or else" anyway.
The US wants to rise CC debt, so there’s one way. Force everyone to buy stuff but don’t pay them more to do it. The juice ain’t worth the squeeze anymore.
So why do you come here? Are they blowing smoke up your ass to get you out of Mexico telling you America is so much better? I’m seriously asking like what?
You aren't wrong about a lot of it, but answer this, why is everyone trying to get into the U.S. from places like Mexico and the rest of central America? If it's THAT bad why isn't everyone trying to leave here to go there?
I am honestly curious why people actually think that is
I guess it's because many people from our south are extremely poor and in their regions formal jobs are scarce, the informal economy is very big here.
So getting dollars, saving them and bringing them back is a huge difference.
People like me who have a stable formal job would only be attracted by the US if I got paid in dollars and spent them here too. But I have a higher standard of living as is than if I emmigrated entirely.
My guess is that a lot of people think of the US as it was decades ago, when the American dream of that house with the 2-car garage was still achievable for the average person. Our post-WWII global reputation was very strong.
Also, at least until very recently, our political system was at least stable, and we don't have to worry about becoming refugees due to war or internal conflict. So of course we are still better off than a lot of the places people are fleeing.
Lolol. No, they fuck us hard over here!
We did, but they moved the disbursement to January so now it's a Christmas Credit Card Payment Bonus.
My company gives a bonus every year the day before Thanksgiving. We have a lunch and they hand out checks and take the rest of the day off. We also are closed for Thanksgiving and the day after. The check is based on some weird formula based on company profit for the year, base salary and years with the company. Even in 2020 when we had a rough year they gave out a bonus. Of course, we are a private LLC so there are no shareholders or investors to please.
In America it's totally free enterprise, pay what it takes to get the help to show up, as long as you meet minimum wage laws.
Ultimately we will end up with an overaction, collectivization to some degree, basic income at its mildest form, because the business owners couldn't reign in their greed for common good, which may have never been possible with humans.
World war 2 delayed things for a generation, because rich people needed us to fight and sometimes die for them, so we held some power, not so much anymore, where the enemies are vague.
Had to give them up to support the then-emerging billionaire class under Reagan
I don't get a cash bonus. I get shares each year but they vest on a 2 year schedule.
The shares are typically worth quite a bit. Last batch was 20K, Vesting is twice a year so if I sell immediately, it is 5K 2x per year. And it collects since I have been there so long. So there are big payouts.
You might have one, you might not, but it's not legally mandated
That's just because our freedom isn't free.
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In Poland you dont get money from profit but you get 26 days for vacations (+14 country holidays) and 20 week maternity leave.
I got a ham for Christmas. My last job gave $200, with me being a director with 10 years at the company. This is the same bonus new managers got. Next level up, vp, bonuses started at $20k.
HAHAHAHAHAH
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Dawg I have not received a holiday bonus at any job since 2016. My current job threw $50 in my "company bucks" account in early Dec, so hurray for that I guess?
My company does. But I know it isn’t a big thing anymore since companies have decided to keep everything for themselves and treat workers like shit.
I get a smallish $1,000 pre tax bonus that comes out to about $650 post taxes. It's enough to cover most of the current costs for Xmas. We also get quarterly bonuses of about the same size if we meet quarterly budgets. They're nice but nothing that really hurts if we don't get them. That's for hourly employees. Salary gets fucked if we don't meet yearly EBETA goals though. They get a bonus of 8-20% of their yearly pay. Over all with most salary positions being overtime exempt they end up making less then most of us hourly production employees. So it can really hurt them if they miss out on the year end bonus. Everyone gets the Xmas bonus regardless of business performance.
I love the profit sharing, what happens if you work for the government?
Since government is not for profit they get none. But they do have 1.4 months Christmas bonus.
Not only that, the Friday after Thanksgiving is often called Red Friday, because of layoffs. Reducing overhead pumps numbers before the end of Q4, so the c suite can get their bonuses still when they fuck up the business.
Do people do this in latam? Never heard of it in Brazil lol
My company literally sends out letters to our residents and their families (eldercare) and BEGS for donations for our staff Christmas party. They then turn around and try and make it a potluck.
Last Christmas bonus I got was 2006 working for cingular
Oh sure! The CEOs absolutely get Christmas bonuses.
my partner is from Mexico, and his dad spent 30 years working for TelCel (utility company).
He retired in his late 50's.
He gets 60% of his former salary for life, and about $160,000mxn (about $9,000usd) every year for Christmas.
totally insane to my gringa ass.
Retirement before the law of '97 is insanely good, my mother in law also gets a huge payout, when I have my child they will be spoiled rotten by her.
I'm a huge leftist and your responses sound like political shit stirring to me. "Why does America simply not rise up and unionize?" Is a weird ass thing for a Mexican citizen to be so concerned about that they post it 10000 times as responses.
It's not legally required, but I've never had a job that didn't have an annual bonus. Around 50% of employees in America have an annual bonus.
If we are comparing countries, 30% of Mexico lives in poverty compared to 10% in America. So trade offs.
I was watching Mickey’s Once Upon Christmas and it mentioned a Christmas bonus
I hear that in passing a lot growing up, but not recently at all
Wow, I did not realize how it became nonexistent now
I got a $75 online giftcard for my Christmas bonus. 24 years with the company.
And got taxed on it.
I’ve worked at five different places and they all gave Christmas bonuses 🤷 all full time salaried places so maybe that has something to do with it? Very often paired with a raise for the next year, but not always (some places the holidays aligned with performance reviews and some did not). Not required by law, sounds like I just got lucky that I’ve worked at places with good people!
Lmaoooooooo nope. We get a pizza party where the boss gets drunk and creeps on everyone.
My Christmas bonus was my manager getting me a gift card out of his own pocket and one of those decorative Christmas popcorn buckets.
Not getting a bonus while not getting paid because of holidays is some sick poor person circumstances 🥲
Holy hell…I need to work for a mexican company.
Nope, that was the biggest shocker when I moved to the US from Mexico. In Mexico you have the "aguinaldo" (year-end bonus) which is at least 2 weeks pay in December. You also have the "reparto de utilidades" (profit sharing) at the end of the fiscal year in July. Many years ago I used to work for the local government in my town in Mexico and since the government doesn't turn a profit (they get all their money from taxes) they made up for it by giving a 2 month year-end bonus. All those laws came to be thanks to the Mexican Revolution in the 1910's, they're written in blood.
In Denmark we have usually Xmas gifts, for me is around $300 in gifts I can choose, plus dinner, and a whole day of paid fun, and nearly two weeks of paid vacations.
In fact most firings, no I won't call them layoffs, happen in December right before the holidays.
This year I was gaslit about how vital our organization is and the essential service we provide while being told on the 19th that I was not in fact getting my unpaid Xmas day off but had to work. HAD TO WORK. No Xmas Bonus, No Increases this year. Nothing. I work in the healthcare system and increasingly I am being asked to also collect payments for underinsured and from insurance co pays. Go to the beside of someone with cancer treatments and say "Hey your insurance co pay is $350. Would you like to pay that now?" That is for something like a 10 mile ambulance ride back to their nursing facility upon discharge.
Hows THAT for antiwork and American greed.
Puerto Rico has a mandatory Christmas bonus you have to work like 1.2k hours for it tho it's 600$ also if your business isn't financially stable you can fill some info with the government for an exemption.
The USA in general seems so anti-worker and like a lot of folks have internalized disdain for other workers and align themselves with the wealthy/capitalists instead.
I'm Canadian, and I was on a wine tour last summer for my friend's stag. We had an American tour guide, and he was making small talk and asked what we did for work. I said that I was currently on an 18 month maternity leave and he shook his head and said "so I guess everyone else is paying for your wine tour today." I said something like "well, no, I paid into EI for decades before taking this leave and have savings." But then he was off on a rant about how Canada is a socialist country and that's why our healthcare system sucks and we aren't a competitive nation.
I really like Americans on an individual level, they are usually very kind, friendly, generous, and hard workers. But Jesus fucking Christ do they hate collective benefits and workers rights like they've been brainwashed for generations.
America is a funny fucker. My first couple jobs in the early 90’s came with Christmas bonuses but they became a thing of the past by the turn of the century in production facilities. Even worse through the mid to late 2000, and even the mid to late 2010s most places I worked were paying new hires less, and offering less in terms of benefit packages than what employees hired 3-5 years earlier were making. That was two state jobs and a production facility. Now I’m used to starting a new job and not making as much as the guys that been there a few years, but getting hired at a lower starting rate, while having higher healthcare costs, less vacation/sick time and a smaller pension? Also, I was expected to work harder than everyone else as well because, well, “they’ve been there long enough”
In America if your company isn’t fucking you, your co workers will!
Our costs of living have skyrocketed while our compensation has actually decreased and somehow the corporations show increasing profits yearly while their workers get poorer. It no wonder they’re leaning so hard into ai and automation. Then they can be rid of us all together