Why can no one realize this already? It doesn't matter if you're a wage slave making 50k a yr or a wage slave making 150k a yr. You're still a slave to the system. Just because you are paid slightly more, the upper echelons own you. They make more in a day than you will in a year. And yet they've convinced you that the path to success is shitting on and belittling frycooks and bathroom scrubbers telling them to learn to leetcode for FAANG so they can drive a cool car. Clown world.
We live in an overpowered well-financed militarized surveillance state. Talking openly on any forum will make you a target. Of course we all want to fix this. Most of us know what that might mean for us and those closest to us. There will be a time and place but we are not there yet as a cause.
I would caution anyone against any action that might lead to a direct escalation by the state. Two things to remember.
1) that’s what they’re waiting for. They are begging for an excuse to flood the streets with troops. I know we’re frustrated by the lack of pushback but there’s too much at stake to do anything rash. Remember, you’re no good to anyone dead or in prison.
2) there are some very very nasty groups who want to see our society deteriorate. They want to use that as an opportunity to cause much greater harm and chaos than even our militarized police want to deal with. I.E The Base. They have started building up again and they are the worst of the worst. I recommend you do some reading on them if you don’t know who they are. They, and groups like them, want to cause escalations and accelerate the breakdown of society and infrastructure. If that happens and these groups mobilize, it will cause terror beyond what we’ve seen from the state. The brand of extremism these groups harbor is so problematic that most average white supremacists want nothing to do with them.
I hate that this is the position we’re in and this country has had countless opportunities to get in front of this and right the ship. But we’re all here now. And if we are going to survive, we’re going to have to be smart.
We live in an overpowered well-financed militarized surveillance state. Talking openly on any forum will make you a target.
"There's no need for the USA to review 5 years of my social media posts to determine if I meet their current criteria to get a visa - just looking at the past 5 hours of my posts would be enough..."
It's a meme, which may not be popular or very visible in the USA (yet) but it's certainly hilariously accurate in the civilised world :)
I think Americans have to embrace for a future similar to "The Troubles" in Ireland. I don't think there is a solution outside of a white-dominated "Christian" totalitarian state that would satisfy The Base and their likes. And that is not a reasonably reconcilable position in this day and age.
If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.
That’s cool, but I doubt you are armed with bombs. Like an actual army. People don’t avoid revolting because they are stupid or cowards, you know. Most just don’t want to sacrifice their lives for an obvious loss.
lol this. People ask what you do for a living so they unconsciously can know how to judge you accordingly. Just think there are probably infinite galaxies and solar systems in the universe and we got stuck living in one where we had to pay someone to exist
That's an important distinction. There are many who are well off or comfortable, who are one severe accident or long term illness away bankruptcy. Not the same as the truly rich who are detached from reality.
Here’s the thing, we all know that we’re still slaves at the $150k level. I don’t shit on anyone because of their job and I would argue most people don’t either in my income bracket. We’re also well aware of how much our bosses make and how unlikely it is that we will ever see a fraction of a fraction of that.
The problem is what do we actually “do” about the problems our society faces. Because last I checked there’s a significant number of people in this country that can’t even be bothered to vote yet now they want to start a fucking armed resistance revolution. Why the fuck should I risk the life I have made for myself when so many people have not even done the bare minimum of getting informed, voting, protesting, or donating?
One of the best comments I seen all year. This system is working as intended and until it is dismantled which will happen eventually once the people lose everything.
Wageslaves are better than actual slaves from a cost perspective.
You don’t need to shelter, feed, or take care of the medical needs of wageslaves. You pay them just enough that it is barely worth it to come in to work. You also pay them so little that they have to work multiple jobs for more than 40 hours a week just to survive.
Then the rest of the needs such as shelter, food, and medical care are (ideally, doubtful now with all the cuts to programs) subsidized through taxes. All so they barely have enough to get by and so that the employer can pay as little as possible.
Then you tell them anyone can make it out if they just study or learn a trade. But there has to be wageslaves, not everyone can go learn a trade or get a college education, because there isn’t enough jobs for everyone to be doing those professions. The system needs poor wageslaves to keep these shitty businesses afloat.
When you tell them that, you arent being truthful. There should be practically no opportunity of class mobility. You dont work extra hard at wage slavery and earn your way to upper class.
The way out of wage slavery isnt earning more wages. Any material wealth you manage to save can be erased through ramping up rent seeking and state oppression, directly or bureaucratically.
Capitalism is more profitable than slavery, A slave owner profits from a slave's labour but has to supply basic needs of food, clothing and accommodation while a capitalist profits from the labour, food, clothing and accommodation,
Capitalists are testing how much profit they can get away with before exploitation becomes unsustainable,
It is called the Butterfly Revolution. They have done everything to destroy democracy because Billionaires think they are Gods to this world, thanks to one Y/arvin C.urtis.
Everything they're doing is because they're afraid. This is the rich in apocalypse mode. "Oh shit, they're all angry and they're organizing, better take over now while we can." Except they're very bad at it.
Can we please stop talking about violent revolt like that’s going to work?
We need workers rights, we need a labor party, we need mass strikes, boycotts, and unionization. Labor needs a seat at the bargaining table. Billionaires are still using us to make their wealth, so that collectively gives us power. We just need to use it.
Hasn’t worked for whom and when? Every Scandinavian country has a large labor party and protections for workers. These countries have very similar democratic/capitalist societies to ours and it works for them.
Which violent revolution in history do you think “worked”? Also define what you mean by “worked” please.
Violent revolution fixing all our problems in the us is a childish fantasy. These types of wars have immense cost in terms of lives, resources, money, and national security. And they tend to have very mixed outcomes oftentimes turning into authoritarian regimes themselves. I can’t think of one violent revolution that didn’t create complex societal issues afterward.
Another point I would make is that the civilian population of the us would stand no chance against the most well funded military in the world.
Historically a military has never turned on its citizens. Even more so, do you really think the poor people of the military could actually be convinced to fire on their friends and family?
Where are you getting these “facts”?! Military’s absolutely fight revolutionaries.
the Rwandan Genocide (where Hutu militias, including some military elements, targeted Tutsi civilians) or conflicts in Syria and Myanmar show militaries directly engaging in violence against their people.
I think a round 33% could be convinced to turn on what they are told is “the radical left”, especially if they are violently revolting against the government.
You’re advocating for a violent revolution here so yeah, I think once one of your violent revolutionaries kills or hurts their friends or family that with radicalize people against the cause even more.
Why can no one realize this already? It doesn't matter if you're a wage slave making 50k a yr or a wage slave making 150k a yr. You're still a slave to the system. Just because you are paid slightly more, the upper echelons own you. They make more in a day than you will in a year. And yet they've convinced you that the path to success is shitting on and belittling frycooks and bathroom scrubbers telling them to learn to leetcode for FAANG so they can drive a cool car. Clown world.
The ruling class is safe as long as the crazy/armed people still have something to live for.
The problem is the juice is getting more and more diluted and we're getting squeezed tighter and tighter.
Yeah but people still have kids to look out for, etc. Something to live for.
I wonder why so many people are choosing not to be parents ..
I'd be willing to bet it's 90% economic.
Exactly. Shit has to get so much worse before people truly start revolting. We aren’t there yet.
We live in an overpowered well-financed militarized surveillance state. Talking openly on any forum will make you a target. Of course we all want to fix this. Most of us know what that might mean for us and those closest to us. There will be a time and place but we are not there yet as a cause.
I would caution anyone against any action that might lead to a direct escalation by the state. Two things to remember.
1) that’s what they’re waiting for. They are begging for an excuse to flood the streets with troops. I know we’re frustrated by the lack of pushback but there’s too much at stake to do anything rash. Remember, you’re no good to anyone dead or in prison.
2) there are some very very nasty groups who want to see our society deteriorate. They want to use that as an opportunity to cause much greater harm and chaos than even our militarized police want to deal with. I.E The Base. They have started building up again and they are the worst of the worst. I recommend you do some reading on them if you don’t know who they are. They, and groups like them, want to cause escalations and accelerate the breakdown of society and infrastructure. If that happens and these groups mobilize, it will cause terror beyond what we’ve seen from the state. The brand of extremism these groups harbor is so problematic that most average white supremacists want nothing to do with them.
I hate that this is the position we’re in and this country has had countless opportunities to get in front of this and right the ship. But we’re all here now. And if we are going to survive, we’re going to have to be smart.
"There's no need for the USA to review 5 years of my social media posts to determine if I meet their current criteria to get a visa - just looking at the past 5 hours of my posts would be enough..."
It's a meme, which may not be popular or very visible in the USA (yet) but it's certainly hilariously accurate in the civilised world :)
I think Americans have to embrace for a future similar to "The Troubles" in Ireland. I don't think there is a solution outside of a white-dominated "Christian" totalitarian state that would satisfy The Base and their likes. And that is not a reasonably reconcilable position in this day and age.
They love it when you have kids. Generational slavery.
I have been saying this exact thing for years.
If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.
Lyndon B. Johnson
You mean a roof to pay for. I'm armed & sick of it like many. We have the numbers vs these scumbags...
That’s cool, but I doubt you are armed with bombs. Like an actual army. People don’t avoid revolting because they are stupid or cowards, you know. Most just don’t want to sacrifice their lives for an obvious loss.
Billionaires have bodyguards and private security now though
They have a price
Trump is a billionaire who's in control of ICE and the military now. Plus, he's a criminal, con-man and pedo.
The moment the working class realizes what a scam they’ve been trapped in tho things are gonna get really interesting
There’s 120 guns per every 100 people in the USA….
lol this. People ask what you do for a living so they unconsciously can know how to judge you accordingly. Just think there are probably infinite galaxies and solar systems in the universe and we got stuck living in one where we had to pay someone to exist
That's an important distinction. There are many who are well off or comfortable, who are one severe accident or long term illness away bankruptcy. Not the same as the truly rich who are detached from reality.
Here’s the thing, we all know that we’re still slaves at the $150k level. I don’t shit on anyone because of their job and I would argue most people don’t either in my income bracket. We’re also well aware of how much our bosses make and how unlikely it is that we will ever see a fraction of a fraction of that.
The problem is what do we actually “do” about the problems our society faces. Because last I checked there’s a significant number of people in this country that can’t even be bothered to vote yet now they want to start a fucking armed resistance revolution. Why the fuck should I risk the life I have made for myself when so many people have not even done the bare minimum of getting informed, voting, protesting, or donating?
One of the best comments I seen all year. This system is working as intended and until it is dismantled which will happen eventually once the people lose everything.
At what salary or net worth does someone cease being a slave to the system?
When you're paid by the system, not a person. If you're getting a paycheck, no matter what the amount, you're a wage slave.
If you need your job to survive, you're locked into the system.
If you own the means of production the system works for you.
It depends on the person. Most people are content making enough to survive if you put a carrot in front of them to tempt them with.
When you transition to a different social class, and it’s not just measured by one absolute number.
That's been the plan since Reagan butchered this country with his anti worker bs
Fucking Ronald Reagan
Cool.
So, over here, the French did something that put the ruling class in their place for a minute....
Slave-peasants have a plan for billionaires too, but I can't share it on Reddit.
No they don't they are placated for the most part.
It’s really good that you believe that, that’s the way we want it.
Its also objectively true. Americans are stupid and placated. There will be no revolt.
Indeed. There will be no revolt. 😉
No revolt here, just a bunch of chums having a quaint lil tea party
No revolt here, just a bunch of chums having a quaint lil tea party
late-stage capitalism strikes again
Wageslaves are better than actual slaves from a cost perspective.
You don’t need to shelter, feed, or take care of the medical needs of wageslaves. You pay them just enough that it is barely worth it to come in to work. You also pay them so little that they have to work multiple jobs for more than 40 hours a week just to survive.
Then the rest of the needs such as shelter, food, and medical care are (ideally, doubtful now with all the cuts to programs) subsidized through taxes. All so they barely have enough to get by and so that the employer can pay as little as possible.
Then you tell them anyone can make it out if they just study or learn a trade. But there has to be wageslaves, not everyone can go learn a trade or get a college education, because there isn’t enough jobs for everyone to be doing those professions. The system needs poor wageslaves to keep these shitty businesses afloat.
When you tell them that, you arent being truthful. There should be practically no opportunity of class mobility. You dont work extra hard at wage slavery and earn your way to upper class.
The way out of wage slavery isnt earning more wages. Any material wealth you manage to save can be erased through ramping up rent seeking and state oppression, directly or bureaucratically.
Time to eat the rich
Start normalizing the using butcher instead of eat .
Obama warned Bezos about this. Making people slaves leads to revolution.
Looks like he and his pals didn't listen.
Seen more and more things like this. For the people it seems to impact the most, why are they so passive about it?
This is probably the most passive country in the history of civilization given the circumstances.
Capitalism is more profitable than slavery, A slave owner profits from a slave's labour but has to supply basic needs of food, clothing and accommodation while a capitalist profits from the labour, food, clothing and accommodation,
Capitalists are testing how much profit they can get away with before exploitation becomes unsustainable,
It is called the Butterfly Revolution. They have done everything to destroy democracy because Billionaires think they are Gods to this world, thanks to one Y/arvin C.urtis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RpPTRcz1no
I have a plan involving some fava beans and a nice Chianti.
... the USA is increasingly hilarious - sadly, for all the wrong reasons :(
It's wild ppl buy a sandwich using Klarna and think all these are still "dystopia", it's here and most y'all are trapped to neck.
And this is how why people say eat the rich
"Billionaires"
Protesting outside a Tesla dealership every Saturday isn't going to do anything
We legalized the Federal Income Tax and gave the Federal Reserve power to print money in the same year
Since then the looting has gotten worse and worse
I hope Woodrow Wilson is enjoying the afterlife in a super hot hole.
They always have.
All of these mergers and acquisitions are contributing to this!
It worked.
Based
Common Kulinski W take
I have a mortgage, I am already a slave peasant.
Plans? Where the fuck have you been the last 20 years
Most of us already are.
Make us?
They're still afraid of a slave revolt.
The way they are acting, i sincerely doubt that
Everything they're doing is because they're afraid. This is the rich in apocalypse mode. "Oh shit, they're all angry and they're organizing, better take over now while we can." Except they're very bad at it.
Surfs...that's called surfs
... serfs?
If everyone had a 12 gauge
And a serfboard too...
Serf ninjas
Quiet, you. We keep you around for entertainment. Like a dog or a pet monkey.
Yes, mam
Oh no I’m getting downvoted because people think I’m actually being mean to you. Come on guys.. watch the movie.
I upvoted you lol. Balance is restored
Can we please stop talking about violent revolt like that’s going to work?
We need workers rights, we need a labor party, we need mass strikes, boycotts, and unionization. Labor needs a seat at the bargaining table. Billionaires are still using us to make their wealth, so that collectively gives us power. We just need to use it.
Literally everything you just listed has not worked other than violent revolution
Hasn’t worked for whom and when? Every Scandinavian country has a large labor party and protections for workers. These countries have very similar democratic/capitalist societies to ours and it works for them.
Which violent revolution in history do you think “worked”? Also define what you mean by “worked” please.
Violent revolution fixing all our problems in the us is a childish fantasy. These types of wars have immense cost in terms of lives, resources, money, and national security. And they tend to have very mixed outcomes oftentimes turning into authoritarian regimes themselves. I can’t think of one violent revolution that didn’t create complex societal issues afterward.
Another point I would make is that the civilian population of the us would stand no chance against the most well funded military in the world.
Historically a military has never turned on its citizens. Even more so, do you really think the poor people of the military could actually be convinced to fire on their friends and family?
Where are you getting these “facts”?! Military’s absolutely fight revolutionaries.
the Rwandan Genocide (where Hutu militias, including some military elements, targeted Tutsi civilians) or conflicts in Syria and Myanmar show militaries directly engaging in violence against their people.
I think a round 33% could be convinced to turn on what they are told is “the radical left”, especially if they are violently revolting against the government.
You’re advocating for a violent revolution here so yeah, I think once one of your violent revolutionaries kills or hurts their friends or family that with radicalize people against the cause even more.
Alex Jones has been talking about this for years
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