US Secretary of State Marco Rubio and the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) accused the EU regulator of attacking and censoring US firms, adding, "the days of censoring Americans online are over".
As if those MFs ever learned to shut the fuck up.
Is there any country on this planet as loud mouthed as them?
Even on fucking tourist resorts you can hear them from blocks away screaming on why their pants don't fit anymore...ffs I wish there would be a way to censor them...
More like 5000 lifetimes if you spend 1 million a year. Or if you spend 50K a year like a normal person, 100K lifetimes. If you turn 97.6 years old every life.
I wrote a paper on his work and management style. He only bothers with and assigns value to things that are extremely risky or else he gets bored. His entire life has been going all-in on red and multiplying his pile of money while at risk of losing all of it. He kept winning, of course. Unfortunately, he's also the type to do anything and everything to win. X/Twitter is an odd case since he isn't dumping all his capital on it, so he's bored yet his reputation is dependent on the platform's success unlike the Boring Company or the other random stuff he's been up to. For instance, X got digital waifus before a lot of more useful and easier to implement features because he wanted to look cool.
As for money buying happiness—yes only provides peace of mind to a point, but it only buys happiness if you give it away.
There's a movie that kind of touches on how it can be to bankrupt yourself once you reach a certain level of wealth. It's about a minor-league baseball player who has to spend 30 million dollars in 30 days in order to inherit 300 million dollars. It's called Brewster's Millions (1985)
They think (and might be) they are building a machine god that could destroy all of humanity. These billionaires think they should be able to do whatever they want.
German auto industry lobbied through a trade agreement to let US cars in without being safety certified because Trump threatened to ban EU cars otherwise.
Most of those cars are by European Auto makers either way.
There are 90.000 BMWs produced in Spartenburg. Around 185.000 cars produced in the US go back to the EU every year.
US cars are quite irrelevant here and EU countries still have their own rules.
They'll just turn the USA into a cheap production country.
The main problem I have is that people are driving on the streets with cars that would never in a 1000 years pass NCAP.
US practices self regulation for the auto industry and the only category there is occupant safety and anti-rollover. Fuck anyone that the car collides with.
Not really. US vehicles would mostly be HUGE fucking light trucks. SUVs count among those. Do you really want those unsafe honking big vehicles on your roads?
You won't see a CyberTrashcan on the German Autobahn.
Not even US soldiers stationed here are allowed to drive them here and Dozing Donnie won't be able to change that.
The kicker is that Dutch laws are different if you import them as a private citizen compared to a company who tries to sell them. Sure; there are loopholes but RAMS don’t get sold here commercially.
Yet there are already around 7000 of the junkers driving here. Making our streets unsafe without benefit to any of the owners. Everyone who has one is compensating for something. I know quite a few of them. Worked on those trucks. Worst job I ever had
Yeah but who will buy them? Americans never understood the European car market and never sold much here. The only noteworthy exception was Ford, because they understood if you want to sell American cars in a different market you have to develop and build them for that market with your target group in mind. Edit: De facto: European Fords are European cars developed and manufactured in Europe.
And if word of mouth goes around that they are not safe, even less people will buy them.
If those idiots really thought that just throwing their crap on a foreign market is enough to sell them they will be here for a big surprise ...
I thought the same way, but it might not be the case.
The thing is, US companies did no marketing for their huge trucks in EU so far, because they couldn't sell them here.
If it is allowed, they will spend ungodly amounts of money on advertising and they might do big discounts at the start to get the foot in the door.
If they mange to sell some, then it is a problem, because history has shown that people feel unsafe driving around cars that are bigger than their own vehicle, so they also buy a bigger car, which causes more people to buy bigger cars etc.
Americans didn't always drive those trucks in such huge numbers, it happened in large part because of this arms race.
Oh no whatever will we do without $18,000 handbags lmao
The only real way forward is to threaten our exports, as China did successfully with soy, or our raw material imports, as China did successfully with rare earths. The EU has the same size economy as China but isn't nearly as vital to the US in trade nor as willing to make sacrifices for commercial sovereignty
Maybe an ordinary citizen like you'd think that way. But the upper echelons want the real stuff, at that level, status and authenticity matters. Hence European luxury products are still very much prevalent in the US despite your claim about better domestic alternatives.
"authenticity" matters a hell of a lot more in Europe than it does here. Yes there's still stuck up people who care about brand here, but almost nobody gives a damn about the location something was made, other than "in America". If you're relying on an embargo of luxury goods to save you in a trade war with the US, you're relying on a very very small class of people who really care about whatever French or Italian brand but don't have any way to get around the embargo. And of course, it would do nothing to our economy and bring great harm to yours. I'm not trying to say Europe is completely unimportant and it's not worth taking a hard line with the US on trade, but imagining you can rely on a luxury goods to save you is 100% cope
I don't really imagine anything of the sort. Luxury goods, while expensive, is a tiny portion of total imports.
But I really do think Europe should take a harder stance against the US, especially on digital services. The way the US is sucking it's regular citizens dry while empowering a few ultra wealthy to a level where they can throw temper tantrums like this with such reach is just outrageous. And the fact Marco Rubio and the FCC also agreed with Musk is alarming. How the hell can the US secretary of state and the FCC claim the EU is "censoring americans" when all the Commission did was fine X for selling fake verifications? How is that censoring anybody? X has to pay some money but all users can still post whatever. What an odd censorship that is. The US state is becoming more of a joke by the day.
You think the wealthy, influential folks in the US will happily accept domestic knockoffs? Lmfao.
The US is a waning empire. There are more than enough wealthy folks around the world to make up for a drop in US demand. Just look at luxury goods sales in China and the Middle East.
I would like to see the US just cut off, like the US has done to many nations over the years, sadly many nations like the money got from the US and would prefer to keep getting that money.
First everyone laughed at Russia about how they're now sanctioned, now potential sanctions between NATO members would really undermine that message of NATO superiority
You'd really need to coordinate with other blocs to get anywhere. The US doesn't need the EU nearly as much as the other way around. The thing that I think the 2025 trade conflicts proved is that other countries are fundamentally incapable of working together to counter the US. Everywhere (except China) you had this pattern of 1) the administration announces outlandish tariffs and restrictions 2) the targeted countries say "we must stand up to them" and impose reciprocal (but smaller) teriffs 3) they see the balance of power and make a new trade deal with the US that's significantly worse for them (and often us as well), then 4) another country gets to step 1 and the first country says "meh not my problem". It's kinda insane to me. It's like if during WWII the allies never formed and everybody just took a separate peace with Germany/Japan whenever they were threatened
Funniest part is that they haven’t bought any ads on Twitter since 2021.
According to Bier [X’s head of product], the Commission had not used its ad account since 2021, but used a post format explicitly reserved for ads in its announcement of the fine against X. He claims that the Commission posted “a link that deceives users into thinking it’s a video and to artificially increase its reach.” (For the record, the post itself includes a video.)
(from The Verge)
I also found it funny that a man who publicly told the head of Disney 'fuck you' and accused him of blackmail when they pulled advertisements on Twitter because of concerns, is now pulling advertisements off Twitter because of 'concerns'.
Iirc, Musk attempted to sue transnational conglomerates to compel them to advertise on his platform. It didn't work though, because you can't sue people to buy things from you. But he did try.
a man who publicly told the head of Disney 'fuck you' and accused him of blackmail when they pulled advertisements on Twitter because of concerns, is now pulling advertisements off Twitter because of 'concerns'.
Misinformation on this case was rife all over Reddit.
The circumstances are a report from the judiciary which alleges an intentional boycott, which is hard to argue against when on page 14 you have an email referring to it as such. This was not a case of Musk being pissed at advertisers because of brand risk, but a case about antitrust law violations.
"I'm reaching out to you to ask you if it's possible to arrange a meeting and hear more about your perspectives about the Twitter situation and a possible boycott from many companies"
A "boycott from many companies" is illegal. It's flat out against the law, you are intentionally choosing to be deluded
oooh how nefarious, a trade group comprised of advertisers wants to speak with its members about why their ad buy strategies are changing after the ad platform they used became infested with nazis
in no way did anyone said "GARM is making you guys boycott X", the email says "hey we hear you guys might be boycotting X, why is that"
cultivate a platform that's a cesspool for antisemitism and racism
be openly antisemetic yourself on said platform
advertisers raise concerns
Tell your advertisers to "go fuck themselves"
They go fuck themselves and don't purchase your product anymore
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He talked a big game about not needing their money and got what he wanted. Then realized how much his big ego really cost him and whined like a little bitch to the courts.
Since Musk took over Twitter has complied with 83% of censorship requests (up from 50%) and while Musk sent his bot armies to call for the abolition of the EU over what amounts to a chump change fine, he has not lost a single word about Russia / China completely banning X while their officials and Propagandist still use the site to spread propaganda
He caved against Brazil and Turkey too. So could it be that he's just full of shit and american tech oligarchs want to break up the EU because it's just much easier bullying individual nations into accepting your bullshit?
(not a question btw, look up Brussels Effect. US Corporations fucking loathe that they have to submit to EU Regulations because the market is just too big and important to ignore)
When he recently announced (paraphrasing “we have to end the EU so countries can go back to democratically choosing for themselves what to do”, it couldn’t have been a more transparent “I think I can fuck with single countries, but a Union of them is too much…
It's the classic argument of aspiring fascists. The US is constantly having to deal with the absurd accusation of the "tyranny of the majority" in a fucking democracy.
Uhh just to point out that Brazil's case were multiple court rulings on people actually doing bad stuff over social media like politicians threatening the supreme court and such.
If you call yourself "free speech maximalist" and literally any government attempt to censor any sort of speech is basically communism, it's very much censorship.
Because Musk is using the same excuses to not take any Action against misinformation and extremism that benefits him.
From Elon's POV it might be like that. But just to contextualize: either he complied on banning people commiting crimes on Twitter or the website would have been shutdown on the country, we had to wrestle him until he budged, so it wasn't exactly cut and clear.
Wrong. Our constitution was being actively broken.
Yours allow free speech no matter what. Ours criminalize any rethoric that might damage our 3 powers and the democratic state of affairs. These people supported dictatorial ways of conducting politics and were against lawfully conducted sentences on people that tried to coup our government.
The chump change fine doesn't even cover how insignificant it was.
In terms of Musk's worth, if he had €100 the fine would have been the mark left when scraping a cent (€0.01) on a plate (0.025%). In terms of Twitter's worth, it's the cent itself (0.27%).
The wealthy like to complain about fines because the values are inconcievable to you and I, even though they are functionally meaningless to them. Because they often can get away with it.
Ah i guess this is the "absolutist" part in him being "free speech absolutist" eh?
As the owner of a private company, he's 100% in his right to not do business with EU, but after what he said it just makes him a lying clown, on top of looking like a whiny bitch.
There's something simultaneously amusing and terrifying about the power and influence these individuals have.
Watching the petty bullshit is kinda hilarious. Be it this or musk actively promoting himself using the algorithms to soothe his own ego. And frankly it exposes the fundamental problems with consolidating power into the hands of individuals with zero constraints on their actions in a private enterprise setting.
Everything else is terrifying.
At least a few years ago tech giants were too scared to abuse their personal power for fear of regulation or reputational damage. Now it seems that thought process has disappeared.
At least a few years ago tech giants were too scared to abuse their personal power for fear of regulation or reputational damage. Now it seems that thought process has disappeared.
I mean there was a small concern that the USA government would break them up that seems to have passed after the USA government lost their most recent case against Facebook.
They used to be worried about the EU but with the EU bending over for Trump they've lost all fear of the EU too.
Very funny, now the entirety of the EU is against Twitter (I'll never call it X). And it shows the growing hostility between the transatlantic allies. Musk is still allied with Trump and he will not like this.
I mean, the more he use X (formerly known as Twitter) as a political tool to carry his own personal vendettas, the more the EU will sanction the platform for being biased, unmoderated, full of algorithm manipulation and other illegal acts.
Freedom of expression can't hinder on other individuals freedom to inform themselves.
Everytime the EU isnt consequent or how its so often, straight up gives in, it damages the union. Its just insulting, how little the EU does, if it faces any resistence. From people who are openly promoting fascism, race-lore ideology and corporate dictatorship.
The answer to bullys is fighting back. Same goes for Nazis. Same goes for Trump and his regime of evil.
If the EU Commission stays that meekly and gives in everytime big daddy Trump plays upset, then they are just unworthy of thier position. They dont represent the ideas, interests or idendity of the european voter. Because we are not MAGA idiots. Yet.
Very funny, now the entirety of the EU is against Twitter (I'll never call it X). And it shows the growing hostility between the transatlantic allies. Musk is still allied with Trump and he will not like this.
Continue to fine it! Europeans, twitter must comply with EU regulations, and the EU takes this seriously!
Check with your local government where to make complaints for violation of GDPR, or any other regulation like hate speech. Contact your EU parliament representative (yes, you have one!) and make the complaint there also.
While you're at it, make complaints about Google, Apple and Meta as well. These organizations have been fined in the past, and, with our help, will be fined in the future.
For not shutting the fuck up for 1 second. I'm tired of even seeing his name at this point. Please, god, let him colonize mars ASAP so he can leave earth alone.
As if those MFs ever learned to shut the fuck up.
Is there any country on this planet as loud mouthed as them?
Even on fucking tourist resorts you can hear them from blocks away screaming on why their pants don't fit anymore...ffs I wish there would be a way to censor them...
One of the richest men in the world, who owns one of the biggest social media websites, thinks he’s being censored. I wish!
I'm sure he pulled out his fainting couch when the EU sent him a fine. He may only have enough money for 999.9 lifetimes instead of 1000 now.
More like 5000 lifetimes if you spend 1 million a year. Or if you spend 50K a year like a normal person, 100K lifetimes. If you turn 97.6 years old every life.
God I hate billionaire math.
One million seconds is 11 and a half days. One billion seconds is 31.7 years. One trillion seconds 31.7 thousand years.
Musk is worth 500 billion or 15 thousand years in seconds/dollars.
Then you will hate them even more
Unfortunately for Elon, JD was already using the fainting couch.
They have a deal that Musk gets to use it on Tuesdays and Thursdays.
It's proof that money doesn't buy happiness.
Imagine being that rich, but being a whiny miserable bellend.
Money definitely buys happiness, there’s just a point of diminishing returns and then it slowly reduces. Elon is just billions past that point.
Money provides the means to reduce or eliminate sources of unhappiness. If you're a miserable prick, though, no amount of money will change that.
I wrote a paper on his work and management style. He only bothers with and assigns value to things that are extremely risky or else he gets bored. His entire life has been going all-in on red and multiplying his pile of money while at risk of losing all of it. He kept winning, of course. Unfortunately, he's also the type to do anything and everything to win. X/Twitter is an odd case since he isn't dumping all his capital on it, so he's bored yet his reputation is dependent on the platform's success unlike the Boring Company or the other random stuff he's been up to. For instance, X got digital waifus before a lot of more useful and easier to implement features because he wanted to look cool.
As for money buying happiness—yes only provides peace of mind to a point, but it only buys happiness if you give it away.
damn, if i tried that id just bankrupt myself.
There's a movie that kind of touches on how it can be to bankrupt yourself once you reach a certain level of wealth. It's about a minor-league baseball player who has to spend 30 million dollars in 30 days in order to inherit 300 million dollars. It's called Brewster's Millions (1985)
It makes me happy knowing he's pissing himself over things like this.
They think (and might be) they are building a machine god that could destroy all of humanity. These billionaires think they should be able to do whatever they want.
Maybe this little spat will lead to the EU blocking ex-twitter for non-payment of the fine.
Please.
At this point a complete embargo on US products is the way. Especially their cars
German auto industry lobbied through a trade agreement to let US cars in without being safety certified because Trump threatened to ban EU cars otherwise.
Most of those cars are by European Auto makers either way.
There are 90.000 BMWs produced in Spartenburg. Around 185.000 cars produced in the US go back to the EU every year.
US cars are quite irrelevant here and EU countries still have their own rules.
They'll just turn the USA into a cheap production country.
The main problem I have is that people are driving on the streets with cars that would never in a 1000 years pass NCAP.
US practices self regulation for the auto industry and the only category there is occupant safety and anti-rollover. Fuck anyone that the car collides with.
Not really. US vehicles would mostly be HUGE fucking light trucks. SUVs count among those. Do you really want those unsafe honking big vehicles on your roads?
Nobody wants those here.
That's why I wrote:
You won't see a CyberTrashcan on the German Autobahn.
Not even US soldiers stationed here are allowed to drive them here and Dozing Donnie won't be able to change that.
The kicker is that Dutch laws are different if you import them as a private citizen compared to a company who tries to sell them. Sure; there are loopholes but RAMS don’t get sold here commercially.
Yet there are already around 7000 of the junkers driving here. Making our streets unsafe without benefit to any of the owners. Everyone who has one is compensating for something. I know quite a few of them. Worked on those trucks. Worst job I ever had
Do you think auto manufacturers don't understand which types of vehicles will sell in different markets?
No I don't. Or else they wouldn't have so many problems selling in different markets.
I am not afraid of this, nearly no one in Europe buys American cars anyway lol
The trade agreement was only just passed.
Yeah but who will buy them? Americans never understood the European car market and never sold much here. The only noteworthy exception was Ford, because they understood if you want to sell American cars in a different market you have to develop and build them for that market with your target group in mind. Edit: De facto: European Fords are European cars developed and manufactured in Europe.
And if word of mouth goes around that they are not safe, even less people will buy them.
If those idiots really thought that just throwing their crap on a foreign market is enough to sell them they will be here for a big surprise ...
I thought the same way, but it might not be the case.
The thing is, US companies did no marketing for their huge trucks in EU so far, because they couldn't sell them here.
If it is allowed, they will spend ungodly amounts of money on advertising and they might do big discounts at the start to get the foot in the door.
If they mange to sell some, then it is a problem, because history has shown that people feel unsafe driving around cars that are bigger than their own vehicle, so they also buy a bigger car, which causes more people to buy bigger cars etc.
Americans didn't always drive those trucks in such huge numbers, it happened in large part because of this arms race.
There are quite a few bro-types that have gotten the largest size US trucks recently.
That is just a public service, advertising dickheads in advance.
Unless they back you over due to the zero-visibility design of these trucks.
European Fords were the only Fords worth buying in N. America. The Escape/Kuga is their last World Car available in N. America and it’s gone for 2026.
We need to detach from their social media and data centres.
The truth is that the US could turn western Internet off.
Just cut off their access to European luxury goods in the other direction and watch them come crawling back.
You think the most gluttonous consumers on the planet are just going to give up their addictions?
Oh no whatever will we do without $18,000 handbags lmao
The only real way forward is to threaten our exports, as China did successfully with soy, or our raw material imports, as China did successfully with rare earths. The EU has the same size economy as China but isn't nearly as vital to the US in trade nor as willing to make sacrifices for commercial sovereignty
How are you going to throw a Gatsby themed party without champagne?
Easy: get the better stuff from California
Maybe an ordinary citizen like you'd think that way. But the upper echelons want the real stuff, at that level, status and authenticity matters. Hence European luxury products are still very much prevalent in the US despite your claim about better domestic alternatives.
"authenticity" matters a hell of a lot more in Europe than it does here. Yes there's still stuck up people who care about brand here, but almost nobody gives a damn about the location something was made, other than "in America". If you're relying on an embargo of luxury goods to save you in a trade war with the US, you're relying on a very very small class of people who really care about whatever French or Italian brand but don't have any way to get around the embargo. And of course, it would do nothing to our economy and bring great harm to yours. I'm not trying to say Europe is completely unimportant and it's not worth taking a hard line with the US on trade, but imagining you can rely on a luxury goods to save you is 100% cope
I don't really imagine anything of the sort. Luxury goods, while expensive, is a tiny portion of total imports.
But I really do think Europe should take a harder stance against the US, especially on digital services. The way the US is sucking it's regular citizens dry while empowering a few ultra wealthy to a level where they can throw temper tantrums like this with such reach is just outrageous. And the fact Marco Rubio and the FCC also agreed with Musk is alarming. How the hell can the US secretary of state and the FCC claim the EU is "censoring americans" when all the Commission did was fine X for selling fake verifications? How is that censoring anybody? X has to pay some money but all users can still post whatever. What an odd censorship that is. The US state is becoming more of a joke by the day.
You think the wealthy, influential folks in the US will happily accept domestic knockoffs? Lmfao.
The US is a waning empire. There are more than enough wealthy folks around the world to make up for a drop in US demand. Just look at luxury goods sales in China and the Middle East.
I would like to see the US just cut off, like the US has done to many nations over the years, sadly many nations like the money got from the US and would prefer to keep getting that money.
You know Reddit counts as American social media, right?
Yes
You should start by boycotting Reddit
Why?
“We need to detach from their social media”
You’re the one that said it. Jesus Christ what timeline is this.
Yeah, at the national level, lol
It's not a boycott or even an activism thing.
EU needs to develop its own social media.
That's nothing. I mean, they don't make a lot of competitive cars in the first place. You can't embargo antarctic supercomputers.
r/BuyFromEU is a start.
First everyone laughed at Russia about how they're now sanctioned, now potential sanctions between NATO members would really undermine that message of NATO superiority
You'd really need to coordinate with other blocs to get anywhere. The US doesn't need the EU nearly as much as the other way around. The thing that I think the 2025 trade conflicts proved is that other countries are fundamentally incapable of working together to counter the US. Everywhere (except China) you had this pattern of 1) the administration announces outlandish tariffs and restrictions 2) the targeted countries say "we must stand up to them" and impose reciprocal (but smaller) teriffs 3) they see the balance of power and make a new trade deal with the US that's significantly worse for them (and often us as well), then 4) another country gets to step 1 and the first country says "meh not my problem". It's kinda insane to me. It's like if during WWII the allies never formed and everybody just took a separate peace with Germany/Japan whenever they were threatened
I'm fine with that.
Good luck with Russia.
It’s even funnier because it had nothing to do with censorship, the main issue for the fine is X selling the verified user checkmark.
You'd think Rubio would be happy about someone censoring south african
Surely this post is about South African people and not Americans? Seeing as Musk was born and raised elsewhere.
Also no one buys ads on X. The EU likely buys Meta ads though like every political entity does. You can look it up on the FB Ads library
Funniest part is that they haven’t bought any ads on Twitter since 2021.
I also found it funny that a man who publicly told the head of Disney 'fuck you' and accused him of blackmail when they pulled advertisements on Twitter because of concerns, is now pulling advertisements off Twitter because of 'concerns'.
He told ALL advertisers "go fuck yourselves" if they didn't want to advertise on Twitter.
And then immediately whined they don't want to advertise. Wild.
Iirc, Musk attempted to sue transnational conglomerates to compel them to advertise on his platform. It didn't work though, because you can't sue people to buy things from you. But he did try.
Misinformation on this case was rife all over Reddit.
The circumstances are a report from the judiciary which alleges an intentional boycott, which is hard to argue against when on page 14 you have an email referring to it as such. This was not a case of Musk being pissed at advertisers because of brand risk, but a case about antitrust law violations.
LOL imagine believing anything US Republicans have to offer regarding online censorship
turns out publicly attracting neo nazis to your site to advertise to them makes the non-nazis in the audience less likely to buy ads
And I quote:
A "boycott from many companies" is illegal. It's flat out against the law, you are intentionally choosing to be deluded
oooh how nefarious, a trade group comprised of advertisers wants to speak with its members about why their ad buy strategies are changing after the ad platform they used became infested with nazis
in no way did anyone said "GARM is making you guys boycott X", the email says "hey we hear you guys might be boycotting X, why is that"
He talked a big game about not needing their money and got what he wanted. Then realized how much his big ego really cost him and whined like a little bitch to the courts.
How is it illegal for many companies to refuse to buy something?
That's what I was thinking. "Did they ever actually purchase ads?" Because its the EU Commission. Doesn't seem like a large add buy space you know.
“Hey you can’t use the advertising fake video thing for ur non ad we are only allowed to manipulate people into a fake video if it’s a real ad”
Since Musk took over Twitter has complied with 83% of censorship requests (up from 50%) and while Musk sent his bot armies to call for the abolition of the EU over what amounts to a chump change fine, he has not lost a single word about Russia / China completely banning X while their officials and Propagandist still use the site to spread propaganda
He caved against Brazil and Turkey too. So could it be that he's just full of shit and american tech oligarchs want to break up the EU because it's just much easier bullying individual nations into accepting your bullshit?
(not a question btw, look up Brussels Effect. US Corporations fucking loathe that they have to submit to EU Regulations because the market is just too big and important to ignore)
When he recently announced (paraphrasing “we have to end the EU so countries can go back to democratically choosing for themselves what to do”, it couldn’t have been a more transparent “I think I can fuck with single countries, but a Union of them is too much…
I might be dumb, but I never understood this "EU is not democratic".
We choose our representatives to the EU Parliament. They and our own governments (via the Council) choose who goes to the EU Commission.
How is that not-democratic?
In his view, only his personal politics are considered “democratic”
It's the classic argument of aspiring fascists. The US is constantly having to deal with the absurd accusation of the "tyranny of the majority" in a fucking democracy.
According to this US administration, the EU is undemocratic but Russia is.
Ah yes lets put external pressure on them to prevent them from doing what they want to do so they can do what they want to do.
Uhh just to point out that Brazil's case were multiple court rulings on people actually doing bad stuff over social media like politicians threatening the supreme court and such.
I don't think that's censorship
If you call yourself "free speech maximalist" and literally any government attempt to censor any sort of speech is basically communism, it's very much censorship.
Because Musk is using the same excuses to not take any Action against misinformation and extremism that benefits him.
From Elon's POV it might be like that. But just to contextualize: either he complied on banning people commiting crimes on Twitter or the website would have been shutdown on the country, we had to wrestle him until he budged, so it wasn't exactly cut and clear.
It's objectly censorship. You might think it's for a good reason but that doesn't change the fact it's censorship.
Wrong. Our constitution was being actively broken.
Yours allow free speech no matter what. Ours criminalize any rethoric that might damage our 3 powers and the democratic state of affairs. These people supported dictatorial ways of conducting politics and were against lawfully conducted sentences on people that tried to coup our government.
Punishing literal crimes is not censorship.
The chump change fine doesn't even cover how insignificant it was.
In terms of Musk's worth, if he had €100 the fine would have been the mark left when scraping a cent (€0.01) on a plate (0.025%). In terms of Twitter's worth, it's the cent itself (0.27%).
The wealthy like to complain about fines because the values are inconcievable to you and I, even though they are functionally meaningless to them. Because they often can get away with it.
B-b-b-b-bingo! That's exactly what they want. Europe and Europeans should offload as much American products as soon as possible.
Wher3 are 6ou getting this information? Whats 6our source?
Ah i guess this is the "absolutist" part in him being "free speech absolutist" eh?
As the owner of a private company, he's 100% in his right to not do business with EU, but after what he said it just makes him a lying clown, on top of looking like a whiny bitch.
There's something simultaneously amusing and terrifying about the power and influence these individuals have.
Watching the petty bullshit is kinda hilarious. Be it this or musk actively promoting himself using the algorithms to soothe his own ego. And frankly it exposes the fundamental problems with consolidating power into the hands of individuals with zero constraints on their actions in a private enterprise setting.
Everything else is terrifying.
At least a few years ago tech giants were too scared to abuse their personal power for fear of regulation or reputational damage. Now it seems that thought process has disappeared.
Amusing until you realize a significant part of the population are bellends
I mean there was a small concern that the USA government would break them up that seems to have passed after the USA government lost their most recent case against Facebook.
They used to be worried about the EU but with the EU bending over for Trump they've lost all fear of the EU too.
Meta, Alpahbet when?
We all are in the pit of stupidity, dug by the social media giants, and shreak as the command us to .
Why are we so stupid?
Watch IDIOCRACY movie 🙂
Both have been fined, google in the billions. Even apple has been fined.
Very funny, now the entirety of the EU is against Twitter (I'll never call it X). And it shows the growing hostility between the transatlantic allies. Musk is still allied with Trump and he will not like this.
I mean, the more he use X (formerly known as Twitter) as a political tool to carry his own personal vendettas, the more the EU will sanction the platform for being biased, unmoderated, full of algorithm manipulation and other illegal acts.
Freedom of expression can't hinder on other individuals freedom to inform themselves.
Everytime the EU isnt consequent or how its so often, straight up gives in, it damages the union. Its just insulting, how little the EU does, if it faces any resistence. From people who are openly promoting fascism, race-lore ideology and corporate dictatorship. The answer to bullys is fighting back. Same goes for Nazis. Same goes for Trump and his regime of evil.
If the EU Commission stays that meekly and gives in everytime big daddy Trump plays upset, then they are just unworthy of thier position. They dont represent the ideas, interests or idendity of the european voter. Because we are not MAGA idiots. Yet.
Very funny, now the entirety of the EU is against Twitter (I'll never call it X). And it shows the growing hostility between the transatlantic allies. Musk is still allied with Trump and he will not like this.
Continue to fine it! Europeans, twitter must comply with EU regulations, and the EU takes this seriously!
Check with your local government where to make complaints for violation of GDPR, or any other regulation like hate speech. Contact your EU parliament representative (yes, you have one!) and make the complaint there also.
While you're at it, make complaints about Google, Apple and Meta as well. These organizations have been fined in the past, and, with our help, will be fined in the future.
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Fine him for what?
For not shutting the fuck up for 1 second. I'm tired of even seeing his name at this point. Please, god, let him colonize mars ASAP so he can leave earth alone.