No it's cool, as long as you didn't sign up for your reddit account using your ALL CAPS name, they can't prove it was you who said what you just said.
"There was some other guy driving typing on my account and he ran away before the cops got here. No I don't know the name of the guy I just gave keys to my car my Reddit password to."
Plus you he didn't stick a 3-cent stamp with your thumbprint on your monitor when you he typed it so it doesn't count anyway
Well, and I question whether it actually worked at those other banks or if that was a lie. You see it a lot in sovcit traffic stops where they claim some other officer in some other jurisdiction accepted their traveling argument. But there's no evidence that actually happens.
At the end of the day, the Fed check isn't valid, no ACH transfer would work.
Also, he claimed the IRS cleared his use of that check; IRS has nothing to do with the Fed. So that's a lie.
IDK about this guy in particular, but they often claim "tacit acceptance" -- I write a letter to the IRS saying "I'm going to write a check for eleventy quadzillion dollars and use my secret bank account to pay for it. If you don't deny this within 30 days it becomes true because silence is consent"
And then claim "The IRS approved this" when the IRS doesn't respond.
That's how the American State National people do it. Write a letter to the state department saying "I am no longer a citizen of the US and if you don't say no it becomes a legal fact"
I don't know where the line between being crazy and having no sense at all is. But I have to think there is something wrong with this guy to actually try this.
I have a serious question about this. I’ve never met a sovereign citizen, or the sovcit license plate or any of that other BS.
Do you think that these people actually truly believe this? Or are they just playing along - trying to get something for nothing?
I think a number of them are true believers because they believe they deserve the money/benefits that are promised by the ideology. Also, because they don't understand the law, they think the law is just magic words (spells, basically) and if they can learn the 'travelling, not driving' spell then everything will work out.
But historically, it seems like most people get into it because they lose their license or get hit with child support payments or whatever and start googling how to get out of it, and that takes you straight to sovcit gurus.
I don't know if this guy in the video is a believer or a fraud. I'd say 60/40 it is just fraud.
There are things that people want so hard to be true that when they hear it they believe it. Things like "driver's licenses are unconstitutional because you have a constitutional right to travel" are believable enough that a lot of people aren't going to think critically about it. And some of them are going to act on it.
But the guy in this video isn't like that -- he's committed to the idea. I think most poeple -- even those who wanted to believe it -- would not risk a bank fraud charge just off the strength of their beliefs.
They're all over the map though. Some are true believers, some are just desperate and looking for a hail mary. Some, like Anna von Reitz or Romana Didulo, know it's nonsense but know that if they learn how to manipulate the system they can get away with it for a very long time. (Though Reitz finally got her house seized by the IRS and Didulo's followers finally got evicted from their compound).
Now this guy is committing to the bit. I've seen court cases (McNally had one) where someone claims they can pay $800/month rent from their sooper seekrit bank account. But the place was a rathole.
If I had a million dollars at my disposal, I would not be living in an $800 apartment. Maybe a million isn't Beverly Hillbillies money, but a nice apartment with a water view certainly would be affordable.
So hat's off to this guy, I guess, trying to get the whole million or whatever he thinks his seekrit account is worth.
The SovCit movement uses the historical oppression of black Americans to radicalize them into the kind of stupidity that often (not always) ends in kid gloves and a slap on the wrist for white offenders and a knee in the back and handcuffs (and lengthier sentences) for black offenders because that’s the way the “justice” system works in the U.S.
This was really good. Every time the cops caught him in BS, he’d say “listen…” and then didn’t have an answer.
"Ignore your training and go read the law" was pretty funny coming from a former LEO.
What part of Secret Trust Fund did he not understand?
Come on my dude, we all know that the first rule of “secret trust fund” is that we don’t talk about “secret trust fund”
Yeah that's a good way to not get your checks from your secret trust fund..... damn it! How do I edit out the words secret trust fund.... damn it!😡😡
No it's cool, as long as you didn't sign up for your reddit account using your ALL CAPS name, they can't prove it was you who said what you just said.
"There was some other guy
drivingtyping on my account and he ran away before the cops got here. No I don't know the name of the guy I just gavekeys to my carmy Reddit password to."Plus
youhe didn't stick a 3-cent stamp with your thumbprint on your monitor whenyouhe typed it so it doesn't count anywayAdmitted doing it at two other banks as well.
And to make his day worse, this bank can call in abandoned vehicle, getting it towed.
He’s also probably going to be told he can’t go back to that bank again, and the bank will probably close all his accounts
Well, and I question whether it actually worked at those other banks or if that was a lie. You see it a lot in sovcit traffic stops where they claim some other officer in some other jurisdiction accepted their traveling argument. But there's no evidence that actually happens.
At the end of the day, the Fed check isn't valid, no ACH transfer would work.
Also, he claimed the IRS cleared his use of that check; IRS has nothing to do with the Fed. So that's a lie.
This is often true.
It just usually means an officer gives up because they get off-shift in 15 minutes and don't want the trouble, so they issue a warning.
The same guys claim that if the prosecutor dismissed the charges they 'won' a legal precedent.
Like Logan Paul did with the class action suit against him... that just got re-filed to the surprise of approximately only one person.
IDK about this guy in particular, but they often claim "tacit acceptance" -- I write a letter to the IRS saying "I'm going to write a check for eleventy quadzillion dollars and use my secret bank account to pay for it. If you don't deny this within 30 days it becomes true because silence is consent"
And then claim "The IRS approved this" when the IRS doesn't respond.
That's how the American State National people do it. Write a letter to the state department saying "I am no longer a citizen of the US and if you don't say no it becomes a legal fact"
Their whole “tacit agreement” argument, while legal, doesn’t apply to some things like they think it does.
A lot of people wouldn’t answer their garbage, doesn’t mean they agree with it.
Or deserve an answer.
The funny thing is they often don't respond to subpoenas or tickets, but that's not "tacit acceptance" because they didn't agree to "contract."
I don't know where the line between being crazy and having no sense at all is. But I have to think there is something wrong with this guy to actually try this.
I have yet to see a sovcit that didn't display clear signs of mental illness
The disordered thinking that goes with most mental illness is required to believe in this kind of stuff. So the overlap is probably large.
I have a serious question about this. I’ve never met a sovereign citizen, or the sovcit license plate or any of that other BS. Do you think that these people actually truly believe this? Or are they just playing along - trying to get something for nothing?
I think a number of them are true believers because they believe they deserve the money/benefits that are promised by the ideology. Also, because they don't understand the law, they think the law is just magic words (spells, basically) and if they can learn the 'travelling, not driving' spell then everything will work out.
But historically, it seems like most people get into it because they lose their license or get hit with child support payments or whatever and start googling how to get out of it, and that takes you straight to sovcit gurus.
I don't know if this guy in the video is a believer or a fraud. I'd say 60/40 it is just fraud.
There are things that people want so hard to be true that when they hear it they believe it. Things like "driver's licenses are unconstitutional because you have a constitutional right to travel" are believable enough that a lot of people aren't going to think critically about it. And some of them are going to act on it.
But the guy in this video isn't like that -- he's committed to the idea. I think most poeple -- even those who wanted to believe it -- would not risk a bank fraud charge just off the strength of their beliefs.
They're all over the map though. Some are true believers, some are just desperate and looking for a hail mary. Some, like Anna von Reitz or Romana Didulo, know it's nonsense but know that if they learn how to manipulate the system they can get away with it for a very long time. (Though Reitz finally got her house seized by the IRS and Didulo's followers finally got evicted from their compound).
The guy thought if he made up a reference to something that has money, no one would care that he wasn’t owed it and had no account?
Now this guy is committing to the bit. I've seen court cases (McNally had one) where someone claims they can pay $800/month rent from their sooper seekrit bank account. But the place was a rathole.
If I had a million dollars at my disposal, I would not be living in an $800 apartment. Maybe a million isn't Beverly Hillbillies money, but a nice apartment with a water view certainly would be affordable.
So hat's off to this guy, I guess, trying to get the whole million or whatever he thinks his seekrit account is worth.
The SovCit movement uses the historical oppression of black Americans to radicalize them into the kind of stupidity that often (not always) ends in kid gloves and a slap on the wrist for white offenders and a knee in the back and handcuffs (and lengthier sentences) for black offenders because that’s the way the “justice” system works in the U.S.