You gotta do some extra stuff to it. I'm guessing you weren't pumping millions of volts and amps into it from a lattice fusion device, and allowing that to work on an e8 structure with fluid metal. That creates the space "pocket" from my understanding.
Something to do with quantum locking at a high level I think. Boaz alamog has a good video on it you can watch.
Google the term "electro-gravitics". You're locking a symmetry between the quantum particles. That, in effect, is your "propellent". The Electrostatics lead for NASA has developed a "propellentless" drive, along with ankur bhatt. New technology is coming out. Our national laboratories have recently said (LLNL) that they have achieved lattice confinement fusion through laser heightening. I'm an aerospace major and an electrical/automation engineer now. Mostly on the controls side of things. You're getting a little out of the motors and gears and going a little more into the spin factor of atoms in its matrices, so it's a little more physics oriented and not so much....rocket oriented. Ep. 69 of the ecosystemic futures podcast has a lot of good info. Sponsored by NASA.
Timestamps worth noting:
32:00 - Journal of inner planetary society has talks about these methods
44:00 - Hal Putoff explains an experiment to understand the radiological data of the film of the craft
53:00- paper on these orbs from the intelligence community
1:00:00 intro to the physics I was describing
1:25:00 - re-engineering the speed of light and the controversial paper dealing with pulse gravity on YBCO superconductors aka "impossible generator"
1:33:00 - using interferometry on UAP to distinguish if it is off world tech or another agency.
Like I said. Look up Salvatore Pais's patents for the navy if you want to look further into it.
UAP Gerb has some good info on the TR3B which is the USA working model. Can't speak on other countries, however.
If the device were truly interacting with the Quantum Vacuum (which exists everywhere, even in empty space) or modifying Gravity (which acts regardless of air), the device should work in a vacuum.
When Biefeld-Brown lifters are placed in a vacuum chamber, thrust drops to zero.
Since the "quantum vacuum" is still present in the chamber but the air is gone, and the thrust disappears, the force cannot be quantum or gravitational. It is purely aerodynamic (pushing air).
Also you claimed they used interferometry at 1:33:00 to determine if a UFO was from earth or not... Not sure how that works
Lots of nonsense. Nothing that has been proven in a lab. You don't think NASA and the military wouldn't be all over practical anti-gravity? It would change the world more than the transistor.
Yeah journal of British interplanetary society has some. As well as Dr. Charles Buhler of NASA's Electrostatics division has developed a propellentless electrostatic drive. Ankur Bhatt of Hoverr has developed papers. There is quite the lexicon of devices out there that are propellentless energy devices.
NASA is a front, it's about control not changing the world, at one time, but not now. The Navy does all this testing because if there's a fleet in space it's run by the Navy not NASA. Well now space force lol.
Lattice confinement fusion ignition has been achieved multiple times at Lawrence Livermore national Labs. They pumped in less energy than they got out. But helion technologies seem to be progressing farther and faster for commercial application. That's compressing plasma with magnetic rings. Not sure which of these are mumbo jumbo to you, but most DoE heads have come out and confirmed fusion is about a decade away.
Which of these successful projects funded by the DoE is pseudoscience to you, exactly?
People act like this is new ground breaking information. When officially released absolutely it will be. But weāve had this tech since the 50ās. Anyone who isnāt being willfully ignorant can look at the evidence. Theyād rather trust the government opposed to their own brains.
If you wonāt look at things such as project Stargate or listen to whistleblowers as to evidence and sightings reports and videos like the tic tac and more from the last 80 years and you concontue to say āthereās no evidenceā then you arenāt making a real argument. What you want is proof. Like literally you are doing this:
Reject all experience from everyone
Reject all historical records of experiences
Reject all experimental evidence (of Psi or related)
Assign 100% credibility to all skepticism
Does that sound scientific or even rational? Mick West, the patron saint of pseudoskeptics, wonāt even consider non-prosaic explanations. Heās not even a scientist. He has never published a paper. He has no formal training in any discipline but because he ticks a lot of peopleās confirmation bias itās like he can do no wrong.
Iām an experiencer and a mod of r/gatewaytapes and r/experiencers. The proof that something anomalous is happening to millions of people and includes psi makes dogmatic skeptics uncomfortable.Thereās tons of studies that you all readily and gleefully ignore - yet the experiences are real because we know the effect even if we donāt yet know the mechanism. You also could be your own citizen scientist like many many former skeptics over in r/remoteviewing and understand first hand how wrong you are. Experiencers donāt just have the ābeings in my bedroomā type of encounters - they have a whole spectrum of psi that goes on for years and years that is rarely talked about.
In fact hereās a guide to remote viewing written by a former skeptic for skeptics
I thought we were talking about technology for a craft to travel 210x the speed of light. Where is that evidence? All these other things youāre mentioning like remote viewing are frankly a separate topic. Whistleblowers, sightings, etc, are evidence towards these craft but not that we possess the technology to travel FTL. We need to make sure we keep our lines drawn between the good evidence we have and what claims it supports.
I also donāt discredit whistleblowers, sighting, etc, as evidence, but yes it is scientific to assign skepticism because they are claims that would rock our understanding of physics upside down ā and bold claims require substantial evidence.
This is what scientists doā¦ a theory isnāt a theory until it is vigorously tested and proven.
With all that said, the remote viewing stuff is fairly new to me and interesting nonetheless. Iāll be checking out those subreddits with an open mind.
Mick West? He's the guy that told Lt. Fravor, the top gun pilot that chased the tic-tac and stated it was not of this earth, that all he saw was a commercial jet.
Exactly why heād be the perfect person to showcase ESP/PSI like remote viewing. If you can get him onboard with psi youāll convince or at least seed doubt in a lot of sceptics.
He's the guy that told Lt. Fravor, the top gun pilot that chased the tic-tac and stated it was not of this earth, that all he saw was commercial jet.
Experienced pilots have made similar claims and been proven wrong, itās entirely possible Lt Fravor made similar mistake. Pilots arenāt infallible and no one is immune to making mistakes.
If you're implying that choosing between a top gun pilot with experience with all types of advanced aircraft and an armchair debunker, that we should side with the debunker, you're paddling down the wrong stream my friend.
Fravor is not one to hyperbole. Moreover, other F-18/A pilots saw and chased it as well. In addition, they were tracked on multiple radars on multiple ships as well multiple radars on multiple jets.
And, regarding getting West involved in the woo shit, no thanks. Nothing he says has any credibility. He's like Lue. He just says shit without ever thinking.
Mick west has put a lot of thought into his debunks and they are very robust and havenāt been disproved.
People here tend to argue from authority a lot, āMick isnāt a pilot why would I trust him over a pilotā instead of actually looking at his work and long history of irrefutably debunking situations similar to this.
The tic tac incident was recorded by a team of people. Itās not just that David Fravor saw something - FLIR teams also saw it. You are not thinking of everything involved here. It has never been debunked no matter what Mick West and his acolytes say.
Look into Dr. Steven Greerās library of records. Literally google his name and look into his database. Linda Moulton Howe has done tremendous works.
We convict people to murder based on eye witness testimony. HUNDREDS of our nations MOST TRUSTED HUMANS people who handle our nuclear material, who have to report if they take ibuprofen, have come forward with eye witness testimony. Yet for some reason no one believes them?!?!?
Look into T. Townsend Brown & his life works. Look into what newspapers were publishing in the 50ās regarding to us having conquered gravity.
There have been thousands upon thousands of recorded instances involving UAP. Sure not all of them are credible and you always have to remain skeptical & use your brain.
Anyone who poses a question such as this is staying willfully ignorant & will only believe with direct contact & even then theyād probably doubt it. What more do you want?
I donāt think itās about trusting government. For most people, this is esoteric stuff, incomprehensible for many, and for those who might go out of their way to research it - where are the legitimate, real-world demonstrations of it? We cannot infer fact from what little is available.
The fact that you think there is āvery littleā on these categories proves youāve failed to research it. We have an abundance of evidence. Pictures, videos, burn marks, radiation poisoning, eye witnesses testimony (which we use to punish people to death) what more do people want? Direct contact? Thatās just not how it works afaiu.
I think you missed my point. āVery little to itā in the sense of accessibility. Itās a smaller percentage of people that do in fact do the research youāre speaking of.
Itās not even a matter of common or uncommon knowledge, itās advanced physics that the general population does not understand.
Edit: just to simplify my point- Iām not arguing there isnāt evidence. Just saying I donāt think trust in government is the reason people might not believe it.
They have classified entire branches of science. Hal Puthoff has insinuated as much & we all know they have done it regarding nuclear technology. Idk why people would be so ignorant to think humans āhave it all figured outā when we have been around for the blink of an eye in galactic terms. We havenāt taken consciousness seriously in scientific studies & I think thatās our biggest problem. Itās why weāre driven to lead the consumptive lives we live.
Pretty much. You said āTheyād rather trust the government as opposed to their own brains,ā and I suggested it had less to do with trust or distrust in government and more to do with knowledge and understanding. I mean, I laid it out pretty clearly.
I donāt think someone who is skeptical of this technology existing is saying āyeah canāt be real because my government wouldāve told me about it.ā
No you can't. Gravity is a force felt by objects with mass. Sure you can convert energy into mass, but saying you can convert light into gravity is like saying you can convert magnets into electricity.
Spacetime curvature maps 1 to 1 with refractive index.
Yes photons are spin 1 gauge bosons that couple to the electromagnetic current, and gravitons are spin two gauge bosons that couple to the stress energy tensor, but if you can find your way from here to there, you can see that one is just the transmitter of force of a higher symmetry than the other, and the two could conceivably be interchangeable
I think the thing with the entire ufo subject is that people see stuff that shouldn't exist. They then conclude that humans and human understanding are wrong.
That doesn't seem to be a flawed worldview.
If you see a silent floating triangle the size of a football field, you have to assume that we're wrong about something.
I think we're long passed dogmatic skepticism at this point.
Yea thatās it bro , some random grifting chud specifically knows itās 210x the speed of light. Not 209 or 211, but exactly 210. A number that canāt be calculated, he seems legit for sure
While I agree with your statement, I have to also preface that physics from a humanās perspective may be limited to just that, a humanās perspective.
Hereās the issue. They are claiming we reverse engineered this advanced alien tech in what, the late 50s/60s? Would you honestly believe they could even reproduce a modern iPhone, and thatās our own human tech, in the 50s/60s? Even to make a crude working model? Thereās no way, not without decades of breakthroughs and advancements in material sciences and several other fields first. Yet far more advanced, completely exotic alien tech was just no problem at all apparently. So weāre just cruising the galaxy manipulating spacetime on the quantum level with absolutely no computers, and at the tech level of a 57 Chevy. All this is remotely believable why again?
Because itās pie in the sky. If they exist (and itās a big if even to this day) they sure as hell arenāt using anything weād understand as āmachinesā. Funny how it all seems to be stuff weād understand in some form. This is science-fiction passed off as reality.
I know, like why not go with an easier theory. All this work to force an idea of how things develope given a constant of time. It's like every so often, a population tries to prove their version is the only correct one. At the expense of commonality of other ideas. Too bad it just running circles for so long, otherwise we could really get somewhere.
Actually yeah I do think they could reproduce an iPhone.
Reason being is its not all that different to most of the tech we had it's just scaled down and if there was some kind of "incentive" to figure out how to do it they would 100% throw the money at it.
its like driving a V12 super car in LA traffic. At that speed the vehicle would escape the solar system before you turn it off, the earths gravity would not be able to keep it in orbit.
You missed the point. You cannot measure the speed of something going 2x the speed of light let alone 210x. The traveling object would experience infinite time dialation and anything on the outside would be unable to interact with the traveling object to measure it. The only option is to measure it's speed is the difference in time between departure and arrival but you'd run into a bunch of causality issues with that I would imagine.
But it doesn't really matter does it since this is some random guy on a podcast making up things that a scientist supposedly said to him but is now deceased and therefore unable to confirm or deny. Because, of course...
This is all true I agree with you and our understanding of how the speed limit of the universe works. & I agree this is just some dude bullshitting on a podcast. However it's not unreasonable to say "if" it was true, someone could say "if your craft moves you at the speed of light, and you're going to a planet that is 210 light years away, it will take 210 years on your craft to get there. My craft will get me there in one year, therefore my craft is 210x faster than your lightspeed craft"
Again I'm not defending the guy in the video but since the speed of light is defined, it's wouldn't be hard to say a craft that gets you from point a to b 210 times faster than if you traveled at one light year per year. Regardless of the means if it was actual light speed travel, travel by worm hole or bending space around you.
We can talk about the laws of the universe all day, but this guy I replied to said it's immeasurable. No he wasn't being hyperbolic, no he wasn't talking about universal limits, he said it was immeasurable which is factually wrong & that's all I sought to say.
Edit: I'd like to add a hypothetical. Remember this isn't about "if it's possible" it's about the hypothetical, imagine it with star wars logic if it makes it easier to suspend your disbelief.
A star 210 light years away from earth blinks off and back on. That blink would take 210 years to be seen from earth.
Let's say I witness the star blink in it's own solar system and I want to relay that to earth before they see it.
Luckily for me I have access to a worm hole from my location to earth, but it takes one year to traverse the path between.
I walk this path and arrive to earth in one year. I just traveled from point a to point b 210 times faster than the beam of light.
Yes it's ridiculous as all hell, but it's something that can be said because the "speed" is defined, so something can be described to go x amount faster
Itās hyperbole. They are exaggerating to illustrate a point. They are equating it to something like someone lying about being rich - āYeah Iām loaded, I have a quadrabazillion dollarsā
They donāt mean immeasurable in a literal sense.
Should be the top comment. As soon as he said this, I was like wtf and looked back at the screen to see him sitting there with a stupid face frozen like he was waiting for Joe to call him a liar because he just realized he said something incredibly stupid. But then Joe went along with it because he's stupid as fuck.
He didn't kill himself that's for sure. I don't even have to know anything about it, how it went down or whatever. He didn't kill himself.
And the aggressive form of cancer, the other guy got? Also bullshit. They gave that to you. The documents are there about all the unethical human experimentation in the United States
210 is also a well known number to every person that has passed first grade. This is like saying "clothes are made up of cotton and polyester. A well known thing in third world sweatshops". The truth is this guy pulled a number out of his ass and is full of shit
lol this guy literally googled āsignificance of 210ā and copy/pasted. I know this because after reading his comment, I did this exact thing to see wtf he was talking about and received āthe product of the first four primes (2x3x5x7) and a significant number in number theor.ā Lmao
No need to google... I remember prime numbers from when I was 10 in school. š So you can thank old Mr. Murphy, who taught maths (and geography too for some reason).
Unless you have some otherworldly bubble or force field surrounding this object, craft whatever, wouldnāt the object just burn up due to mass acceleration? And keep in mind, not only will the object change, the air surrounding the object would become vastly different, emitting radiation we donāt normally see. And internally, in order to accelerate at a safe rate of speed for humans, time becomes a factor (unless youāre talking a warp drive scenario). It would take a year or more to even reach the speed of light safely. 210x the speed of light? Inconceivable. There has to be something breaking the fundamental laws of physics that we donāt understand yet. Iād be more interested in learning about that.
"Everyone connected to this publicly dies" "Brad Sorenson never went public but I found Brad Sorenson and called Brad Sorenson and talked to Brad Sorenson. And Brad Sorenson told me so much stuff other people died for. Brad Sorenson who lives in this place wants to BradSorenson his BradSorenson to every BradSorenson before he BradSorenson."
lol that was exactly my thinking, Iām SURE Brad is stoked youāre saying this to the world and also would apparently just pick up the phone and blab about all this classified intel to a stranger while also loudly exclaiming how he definitely wouldnāt tell anybody.
Even being able to build anything that can travel at the speed of light would be incredibly fantastical. Why would you even say 'building something 210x the speed of light'. Which materials can even withstand the forces that you create during this? It's such a bogus claim, 210x the speed of light is unfathomable, unmeasurable. I'm all for these fun podcasts about random uap sightings, but 210x the speed of light is some complete bullshit
you would have to assume that how ever its done I doubt the object would be moving through conventional spacetime, so friction probably isn't a limiting factor or force to be handled by the crafts surfaces, I could only guess that gravity manipulation or dimensional travel through a lower dimensional level, if dimensions have size or scale then entering one that's smaller traveling through it and exiting could have you travel unimaginable distances in our dimension while only traveling short distance in subspace.
I tend not to just rule out claims because i cant figure it out or think science hasn't solved it yet, i find it more interesting to try and understand how it might be possible.
but if itās not traveling through spacetime, then is it really traveling at all? something canāt move at 210xc m/s if there are no meters to move acrossā¦
Not actually "moving" that fast, but bending spacetime around it, so that its destination is closer. So it would move the equivalent of FTL, when viewed from our casual spacetime perspective.
What we call "meters" and "seconds" only exists because every human on Earth is locked in the same gravity well, and has been for all of human existence. To us, those are objective measurements...to the universe, they're measurements inside a gravity well on one individual planet.
I mean your poking holes in the theory yourself, not moving a distance, means itās not traveling. Which means you canāt calculate how fast itās going. Itās not traveling.
I'm not saying its not traveling, I'm saying it is just through a Dimension that has a different spacetime scale than ours, like imagine a dimension where 1 mile inside is equal to 2 miles in our spacetime, if the scale is wak enough they might have space they can get to where traveling 1 AU there equates to 100 Light Years out here.
We know that extra Dimensions exist last time I read something about them they were thinking around 12, and while we think their small, they may only apear small from our perspective for all we know if you had a way to cross into them and your perspective shifts inside might be infinite.
Our ancestors even 2000 years ago could never imagine in their wildest dreams the technology we have now. Your comment would be just as relevant as someone commenting on the iPhone if they were told about it in the year 300.Ā
There are civilizations millions of years more advanced than us.Ā
I'm totally fine fantasizing about any civilization out there that has mastered some crazy feats in terms of speed and whatnot. But the Lockheed Martin engineer said 'he could develop a craft that travels 210x the speed of light'. With a human inside? An autonomous craft? Is it a drone? Which materials? Which fuel? What does it do to space time around the area where its ignited? Is it ignited and build in space? How did they exactly measure the speed of the craft? Did they already build it? Is it theoretical? Etc.
Ep. 69 of the ecosystemic futures podcast goes into this. Sponsored by NASA. Many DoE heads are on it. Give it a listen. Has to do with onboard fusion reactors using lattice confinement fusion.
Well to be fair, the only way you can make a claim like that and handwave materials to an extent I suppose is if the craft is just using the manipulating space around you method. But still you have to suspend a lot of disbelief to imagine that.
The thing is, spacetime is malleable, we've already observed that. Warp/spacetime bending drives are absolutely, "laws of physics as we know them", possible.
It's not that our current known understanding of physics prevents it. It's just that it would require power generation in a relatively very small space, that eclipses all the current power generation of the Earth right now.
Imagine hitting a small asteroid or piece of debris at that speed, how do they solve that issue? Or slamming into a planet/moon ? Itās not like you can just steer round it š¤
You probably just no clip through it, the atoms dont have time to even collide at that speed.
Idk make sense.. but what do I know
Remember ( if you believe it ofcourse) the videos where orbs and tictacs just fly into mountains, like straight through massive chunks of rock. Its bizarre even thinking about it, how would it look like from the pilot/ navigators POV, just black? , state of energy/ fluid? A code?
I know it is bs but arriving to alpha centauri in a week sounds sooo cool. I guess there would be problems returning and having everybody you know died but still cool to think about. Maybe even a final euthanasia gift.
Sounds like a cold war mitigation tactic as a means to threaten any initiation by the Soviet Union at the time. Hire a dude to draw a fake craft then irradiate him to tie the loose end.
Don't believe it but yea, you have something that can travel that fast, nukes are a thing of the past.
Just accelerate a car sized object to the speed of c and slam it into earth, disable the antigravitics right before impact and you'll wipe out nearly all life on earth. AKA a relativisitic missile.
faster than c? no idea what that would do with an impact. We civvies haven't had the ability to study FTL travel so all we can do is hypothesize. As it stands its all "time" effects if you somehow break humanities current understanding of light speed.
No one thinks 210x the speed of light is not a little oddly specific? Like wtf is 210x the speed of light? You could literally go anywhere anytime if you could actually travel that fast
Here is another point of view. If any speed has a time basis, and time is a construct based on planet observations, then it stands to reason that time would work differently from other solar systems.
Don't tell anyone but for a couple of dollars I brought a device that when switched on shoots a light beam at the speed of light and at the same time lights up the area of which I'm standing
There is literally a famous paper written called the EPR (written by some of the names I mentioned) paper that talks about the non locality of quantum mechanics. When you have entangled particles. Doesn't matter if those particles are separated by the entire universe. That information about one particle is instantaneously communicated to the other particle. Unliike light that follows the laws of locality and do have a travel time from one side of the universe to the other.
You using information as a descriptor is basically a non sequitur. We don't understand the mechanism that facilitates this behavior. There could be waves that have a negative mass that allow them to travel through the universe unimpeded. These particles could be popping in and out of reality into a higher dimension. The point is there is some mechanism that allows action at a distance to be possible and it happens at a rate that is faster than light.
210x speed of Sound maybe possible if air is the medium.
0.21325459317585 miles per second X 210 = 44.7834 miles per second (416 meteor)
around Earth. Measured around the equator, it is 40,075.017Ā km (24,901.461Ā mi).
556 seconds /60 =9.26 minutes around the world.
at the speed of light it would keep food warm.
meteors typically enter Earth's atmosphere at speeds ranging from about 11 kilometers per second (25,000 miles per hour) to 72 kilometers per second (160,000 miles per hour)
If this was real we would be seeing some home hobbyists by now utilising the casmir effect to create anti gravity. I mean who doesn't want a hover board? Come on get it done guys.
Maybe thats what each or is..a nuke..and at this point both sides are just leaving them in place as deterrents..like..the only thing faster then sending one instantly is having one there already
... Yup.
T. Townsend Brown. Ionic lift. Biefield- brown effect. Salvatore Pais.
Look it up.
I made a lifter in college. Cool iconic engine, but sadly not anti-gravity like I hoped.
You gotta do some extra stuff to it. I'm guessing you weren't pumping millions of volts and amps into it from a lattice fusion device, and allowing that to work on an e8 structure with fluid metal. That creates the space "pocket" from my understanding.
Something to do with quantum locking at a high level I think. Boaz alamog has a good video on it you can watch.
I'm an a and p. Millions of volts is doing what exactly?
Google the term "electro-gravitics". You're locking a symmetry between the quantum particles. That, in effect, is your "propellent". The Electrostatics lead for NASA has developed a "propellentless" drive, along with ankur bhatt. New technology is coming out. Our national laboratories have recently said (LLNL) that they have achieved lattice confinement fusion through laser heightening. I'm an aerospace major and an electrical/automation engineer now. Mostly on the controls side of things. You're getting a little out of the motors and gears and going a little more into the spin factor of atoms in its matrices, so it's a little more physics oriented and not so much....rocket oriented. Ep. 69 of the ecosystemic futures podcast has a lot of good info. Sponsored by NASA. Timestamps worth noting:
32:00 - Journal of inner planetary society has talks about these methods
44:00 - Hal Putoff explains an experiment to understand the radiological data of the film of the craft
53:00- paper on these orbs from the intelligence community
1:00:00 intro to the physics I was describing
1:25:00 - re-engineering the speed of light and the controversial paper dealing with pulse gravity on YBCO superconductors aka "impossible generator"
1:33:00 - using interferometry on UAP to distinguish if it is off world tech or another agency.
Like I said. Look up Salvatore Pais's patents for the navy if you want to look further into it.
UAP Gerb has some good info on the TR3B which is the USA working model. Can't speak on other countries, however.
If the device were truly interacting with the Quantum Vacuum (which exists everywhere, even in empty space) or modifying Gravity (which acts regardless of air), the device should work in a vacuum.
When Biefeld-Brown lifters are placed in a vacuum chamber, thrust drops to zero.
Since the "quantum vacuum" is still present in the chamber but the air is gone, and the thrust disappears, the force cannot be quantum or gravitational. It is purely aerodynamic (pushing air).
Also you claimed they used interferometry at 1:33:00 to determine if a UFO was from earth or not... Not sure how that works
nono, I think it's about a 'pocket' or a hole in spacetime. no air, no gravity, no quantum particles. google 'warp drive'. kinda like that.
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I see both your replies.
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Are you referring to the rogan podcast here or another film? Thanks
What's an a and p? Would it have been more clear if you had typed it out?
So you basically stayed at a holiday inn last night. Your life is aircraft maintenance. None of that qualifies you as an engineer or physicist.
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One day I'll have my revenge on all the unnecessary abbreviators.
NYW
Lots of nonsense. Nothing that has been proven in a lab. You don't think NASA and the military wouldn't be all over practical anti-gravity? It would change the world more than the transistor.
Boy do I have some stories for you involving Anti Gravity researchers, the US Navy and the patent office
So link them.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US10144532B2/en
patents.google.com/patent/US20190295733A1/en
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20190058105A1/en
All of these were found with only 1 minute of googling
Also the Invention Secrecy Act of 1951.
Don't forget the most important part of all of this. If you developed the tech, they can legally take it and kill you if you make it anyway.
Any practical scientific analysis? Just because an idea is patented doesn't mean it is physically possible.
Yeah journal of British interplanetary society has some. As well as Dr. Charles Buhler of NASA's Electrostatics division has developed a propellentless electrostatic drive. Ankur Bhatt of Hoverr has developed papers. There is quite the lexicon of devices out there that are propellentless energy devices.
NASA is a front, it's about control not changing the world, at one time, but not now. The Navy does all this testing because if there's a fleet in space it's run by the Navy not NASA. Well now space force lol.
Do you have any evidence of this or are you just making shit up?
Pseudoscience mumbo jumbo!! š āa fusion lattice deviceā¦.ā
Lattice confinement fusion ignition has been achieved multiple times at Lawrence Livermore national Labs. They pumped in less energy than they got out. But helion technologies seem to be progressing farther and faster for commercial application. That's compressing plasma with magnetic rings. Not sure which of these are mumbo jumbo to you, but most DoE heads have come out and confirmed fusion is about a decade away.
Which of these successful projects funded by the DoE is pseudoscience to you, exactly?
LLNL Lattice Confinement Fusion, 60 minutes special: https://youtu.be/2kh6Ik4-yag?si=MMheehPoCk-_qymD
Helion Fusion:
https://youtu.be/_bDXXWQxK38?si=wcvlxWeqxGssH_Ia
āFusion lattice deviceā is very different to ālattice confinement fusion ignitionāā¦.
No it isn't.
I suggest that you read again. Hint, there are extra words!!
People act like this is new ground breaking information. When officially released absolutely it will be. But weāve had this tech since the 50ās. Anyone who isnāt being willfully ignorant can look at the evidence. Theyād rather trust the government opposed to their own brains.
Please for the love of God show me what evidence you have.
āItās easy to find all the evidence!! I wonāt do it, but anybody could.. probablyā
If you wonāt look at things such as project Stargate or listen to whistleblowers as to evidence and sightings reports and videos like the tic tac and more from the last 80 years and you concontue to say āthereās no evidenceā then you arenāt making a real argument. What you want is proof. Like literally you are doing this:
Does that sound scientific or even rational? Mick West, the patron saint of pseudoskeptics, wonāt even consider non-prosaic explanations. Heās not even a scientist. He has never published a paper. He has no formal training in any discipline but because he ticks a lot of peopleās confirmation bias itās like he can do no wrong.
Iām an experiencer and a mod of r/gatewaytapes and r/experiencers. The proof that something anomalous is happening to millions of people and includes psi makes dogmatic skeptics uncomfortable.Thereās tons of studies that you all readily and gleefully ignore - yet the experiences are real because we know the effect even if we donāt yet know the mechanism. You also could be your own citizen scientist like many many former skeptics over in r/remoteviewing and understand first hand how wrong you are. Experiencers donāt just have the ābeings in my bedroomā type of encounters - they have a whole spectrum of psi that goes on for years and years that is rarely talked about.
In fact hereās a guide to remote viewing written by a former skeptic for skeptics
https://www.reddit.com/r/remoteviewing/comments/n1uwoo/the_complete_skeptics_guide_to_remote_viewing_how/
You couldnāt have said it any better.
I like you.
I thought we were talking about technology for a craft to travel 210x the speed of light. Where is that evidence? All these other things youāre mentioning like remote viewing are frankly a separate topic. Whistleblowers, sightings, etc, are evidence towards these craft but not that we possess the technology to travel FTL. We need to make sure we keep our lines drawn between the good evidence we have and what claims it supports.
I also donāt discredit whistleblowers, sighting, etc, as evidence, but yes it is scientific to assign skepticism because they are claims that would rock our understanding of physics upside down ā and bold claims require substantial evidence. This is what scientists doā¦ a theory isnāt a theory until it is vigorously tested and proven.
With all that said, the remote viewing stuff is fairly new to me and interesting nonetheless. Iāll be checking out those subreddits with an open mind.
Why donāt you get Mick West to partake in a remote viewing session? Iām sure heād at least consider it.
Mick West? He's the guy that told Lt. Fravor, the top gun pilot that chased the tic-tac and stated it was not of this earth, that all he saw was a commercial jet.
Mick West is the poster child for debunkers.
Exactly why heād be the perfect person to showcase ESP/PSI like remote viewing. If you can get him onboard with psi youāll convince or at least seed doubt in a lot of sceptics.
Experienced pilots have made similar claims and been proven wrong, itās entirely possible Lt Fravor made similar mistake. Pilots arenāt infallible and no one is immune to making mistakes.
If you're implying that choosing between a top gun pilot with experience with all types of advanced aircraft and an armchair debunker, that we should side with the debunker, you're paddling down the wrong stream my friend.
Fravor is not one to hyperbole. Moreover, other F-18/A pilots saw and chased it as well. In addition, they were tracked on multiple radars on multiple ships as well multiple radars on multiple jets.
And, regarding getting West involved in the woo shit, no thanks. Nothing he says has any credibility. He's like Lue. He just says shit without ever thinking.
Mick west has put a lot of thought into his debunks and they are very robust and havenāt been disproved.
People here tend to argue from authority a lot, āMick isnāt a pilot why would I trust him over a pilotā instead of actually looking at his work and long history of irrefutably debunking situations similar to this.
The tic tac incident was recorded by a team of people. Itās not just that David Fravor saw something - FLIR teams also saw it. You are not thinking of everything involved here. It has never been debunked no matter what Mick West and his acolytes say.
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/qcpdTCIQ9X
And
This extremely well researched video by Lemmino.
Dude you can Google this shit...you'll have to sift through the sand...but it's there. Also books and podcasts.
You did the thing
Let them be mad and angry but it doesn't change what's true
Look into Dr. Steven Greerās library of records. Literally google his name and look into his database. Linda Moulton Howe has done tremendous works.
We convict people to murder based on eye witness testimony. HUNDREDS of our nations MOST TRUSTED HUMANS people who handle our nuclear material, who have to report if they take ibuprofen, have come forward with eye witness testimony. Yet for some reason no one believes them?!?!?
Look into T. Townsend Brown & his life works. Look into what newspapers were publishing in the 50ās regarding to us having conquered gravity.
There have been thousands upon thousands of recorded instances involving UAP. Sure not all of them are credible and you always have to remain skeptical & use your brain.
Anyone who poses a question such as this is staying willfully ignorant & will only believe with direct contact & even then theyād probably doubt it. What more do you want?
I donāt think itās about trusting government. For most people, this is esoteric stuff, incomprehensible for many, and for those who might go out of their way to research it - where are the legitimate, real-world demonstrations of it? We cannot infer fact from what little is available.
The fact that you think there is āvery littleā on these categories proves youāve failed to research it. We have an abundance of evidence. Pictures, videos, burn marks, radiation poisoning, eye witnesses testimony (which we use to punish people to death) what more do people want? Direct contact? Thatās just not how it works afaiu.
I think you missed my point. āVery little to itā in the sense of accessibility. Itās a smaller percentage of people that do in fact do the research youāre speaking of.
Itās not even a matter of common or uncommon knowledge, itās advanced physics that the general population does not understand.
Edit: just to simplify my point- Iām not arguing there isnāt evidence. Just saying I donāt think trust in government is the reason people might not believe it.
They have classified entire branches of science. Hal Puthoff has insinuated as much & we all know they have done it regarding nuclear technology. Idk why people would be so ignorant to think humans āhave it all figured outā when we have been around for the blink of an eye in galactic terms. We havenāt taken consciousness seriously in scientific studies & I think thatās our biggest problem. Itās why weāre driven to lead the consumptive lives we live.
Yeah, I know, I get it. I think weāre having two different conversations at this point.
So what are you arguing? That people donāt understand it therefore they donāt believe it?
Pretty much. You said āTheyād rather trust the government as opposed to their own brains,ā and I suggested it had less to do with trust or distrust in government and more to do with knowledge and understanding. I mean, I laid it out pretty clearly.
I donāt think someone who is skeptical of this technology existing is saying āyeah canāt be real because my government wouldāve told me about it.ā
you can turn light into gravity
No you can't. Gravity is a force felt by objects with mass. Sure you can convert energy into mass, but saying you can convert light into gravity is like saying you can convert magnets into electricity.
Check out the Gertsenshtein effect.
It's theoretical. No one can do it.
The Higgs boson, gravitational waves, antimatter, and black holes.
Spacetime curvature maps 1 to 1 with refractive index.
Yes photons are spin 1 gauge bosons that couple to the electromagnetic current, and gravitons are spin two gauge bosons that couple to the stress energy tensor, but if you can find your way from here to there, you can see that one is just the transmitter of force of a higher symmetry than the other, and the two could conceivably be interchangeable
Plug Salvatore Pais' patents into whatever LLM you want and ask what are the theoretical applications ;)
Look up basic physics first
I think the thing with the entire ufo subject is that people see stuff that shouldn't exist. They then conclude that humans and human understanding are wrong.
That doesn't seem to be a flawed worldview.
If you see a silent floating triangle the size of a football field, you have to assume that we're wrong about something.
I think we're long passed dogmatic skepticism at this point.
Yea thatās it bro , some random grifting chud specifically knows itās 210x the speed of light. Not 209 or 211, but exactly 210. A number that canāt be calculated, he seems legit for sure
While I agree with your statement, I have to also preface that physics from a humanās perspective may be limited to just that, a humanās perspective.
Hereās the issue. They are claiming we reverse engineered this advanced alien tech in what, the late 50s/60s? Would you honestly believe they could even reproduce a modern iPhone, and thatās our own human tech, in the 50s/60s? Even to make a crude working model? Thereās no way, not without decades of breakthroughs and advancements in material sciences and several other fields first. Yet far more advanced, completely exotic alien tech was just no problem at all apparently. So weāre just cruising the galaxy manipulating spacetime on the quantum level with absolutely no computers, and at the tech level of a 57 Chevy. All this is remotely believable why again?
Because itās pie in the sky. If they exist (and itās a big if even to this day) they sure as hell arenāt using anything weād understand as āmachinesā. Funny how it all seems to be stuff weād understand in some form. This is science-fiction passed off as reality.
It took like what, 80 years to come up with the tech to test Einstein's theory of gravitational waves.
I know, like why not go with an easier theory. All this work to force an idea of how things develope given a constant of time. It's like every so often, a population tries to prove their version is the only correct one. At the expense of commonality of other ideas. Too bad it just running circles for so long, otherwise we could really get somewhere.
All tech needs to be exploited for maximum monetary gain before being pushed out to the public, drip feed till the end.
Actually yeah I do think they could reproduce an iPhone.
Reason being is its not all that different to most of the tech we had it's just scaled down and if there was some kind of "incentive" to figure out how to do it they would 100% throw the money at it.
I agree
Lol i like how its so precise its exactly 210 times the speed of light, when its immeasurable
Just typical bullshitting
Sorry for my ignorance but wouldnāt it be 299 792 458 m / s times 210?
Or do you mean itās immeasurable because those speeds donāt exist?
Also, it seems like another way of saying we could get to Alpha Centauri in about a week.
its like driving a V12 super car in LA traffic. At that speed the vehicle would escape the solar system before you turn it off, the earths gravity would not be able to keep it in orbit.
He pulled it out of his arse.
I can ALSO design like at least 5 spacecraft rn upon request that can go a BRAZILLION times the speed of light! š š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
The speed of light is precisely defined actually. What are you on about?
You missed the point. You cannot measure the speed of something going 2x the speed of light let alone 210x. The traveling object would experience infinite time dialation and anything on the outside would be unable to interact with the traveling object to measure it. The only option is to measure it's speed is the difference in time between departure and arrival but you'd run into a bunch of causality issues with that I would imagine.
But it doesn't really matter does it since this is some random guy on a podcast making up things that a scientist supposedly said to him but is now deceased and therefore unable to confirm or deny. Because, of course...
You could just change the language and say that space is contracting/expanding at 210 times the speed of light. Same difference.
This is all true I agree with you and our understanding of how the speed limit of the universe works. & I agree this is just some dude bullshitting on a podcast. However it's not unreasonable to say "if" it was true, someone could say "if your craft moves you at the speed of light, and you're going to a planet that is 210 light years away, it will take 210 years on your craft to get there. My craft will get me there in one year, therefore my craft is 210x faster than your lightspeed craft"
Again I'm not defending the guy in the video but since the speed of light is defined, it's wouldn't be hard to say a craft that gets you from point a to b 210 times faster than if you traveled at one light year per year. Regardless of the means if it was actual light speed travel, travel by worm hole or bending space around you.
We can talk about the laws of the universe all day, but this guy I replied to said it's immeasurable. No he wasn't being hyperbolic, no he wasn't talking about universal limits, he said it was immeasurable which is factually wrong & that's all I sought to say.
Edit: I'd like to add a hypothetical. Remember this isn't about "if it's possible" it's about the hypothetical, imagine it with star wars logic if it makes it easier to suspend your disbelief.
A star 210 light years away from earth blinks off and back on. That blink would take 210 years to be seen from earth.
Let's say I witness the star blink in it's own solar system and I want to relay that to earth before they see it. Luckily for me I have access to a worm hole from my location to earth, but it takes one year to traverse the path between.
I walk this path and arrive to earth in one year. I just traveled from point a to point b 210 times faster than the beam of light.
Yes it's ridiculous as all hell, but it's something that can be said because the "speed" is defined, so something can be described to go x amount faster
Itās hyperbole. They are exaggerating to illustrate a point. They are equating it to something like someone lying about being rich - āYeah Iām loaded, I have a quadrabazillion dollarsā
They donāt mean immeasurable in a literal sense.
They are clearly not being hyperbolic but go off
Should be the top comment. As soon as he said this, I was like wtf and looked back at the screen to see him sitting there with a stupid face frozen like he was waiting for Joe to call him a liar because he just realized he said something incredibly stupid. But then Joe went along with it because he's stupid as fuck.
Typical of us to use it for destruction š
He didn't kill himself that's for sure. I don't even have to know anything about it, how it went down or whatever. He didn't kill himself.
And the aggressive form of cancer, the other guy got? Also bullshit. They gave that to you. The documents are there about all the unethical human experimentation in the United States
dont forget the guy that made a documentary about it dying of heavy metal poisoning right before completing it
210 is the first 4 primorials (2x3x5x7), a well known number in number theory. Maybe that's where he got it from?
210 is also a well known number to every person that has passed first grade. This is like saying "clothes are made up of cotton and polyester. A well known thing in third world sweatshops". The truth is this guy pulled a number out of his ass and is full of shit
lol this guy literally googled āsignificance of 210ā and copy/pasted. I know this because after reading his comment, I did this exact thing to see wtf he was talking about and received āthe product of the first four primes (2x3x5x7) and a significant number in number theor.ā Lmao
No need to google... I remember prime numbers from when I was 10 in school. š So you can thank old Mr. Murphy, who taught maths (and geography too for some reason).
Unless you have some otherworldly bubble or force field surrounding this object, craft whatever, wouldnāt the object just burn up due to mass acceleration? And keep in mind, not only will the object change, the air surrounding the object would become vastly different, emitting radiation we donāt normally see. And internally, in order to accelerate at a safe rate of speed for humans, time becomes a factor (unless youāre talking a warp drive scenario). It would take a year or more to even reach the speed of light safely. 210x the speed of light? Inconceivable. There has to be something breaking the fundamental laws of physics that we donāt understand yet. Iād be more interested in learning about that.
We had Hal Puthoff answering Reddit questions almost 1 year ago. He said āthis isnāt a physics problem itās an engineering problemā.
https://youtu.be/jzeBh5octFc?si=tNvNU3KgEXR7cPfc
"Everyone connected to this publicly dies" "Brad Sorenson never went public but I found Brad Sorenson and called Brad Sorenson and talked to Brad Sorenson. And Brad Sorenson told me so much stuff other people died for. Brad Sorenson who lives in this place wants to BradSorenson his BradSorenson to every BradSorenson before he BradSorenson."
I night thatās crazy how many times he mentioned that the guy NEVER went public, and here we are on a podcast
lol that was exactly my thinking, Iām SURE Brad is stoked youāre saying this to the world and also would apparently just pick up the phone and blab about all this classified intel to a stranger while also loudly exclaiming how he definitely wouldnāt tell anybody.
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Even being able to build anything that can travel at the speed of light would be incredibly fantastical. Why would you even say 'building something 210x the speed of light'. Which materials can even withstand the forces that you create during this? It's such a bogus claim, 210x the speed of light is unfathomable, unmeasurable. I'm all for these fun podcasts about random uap sightings, but 210x the speed of light is some complete bullshit
you would have to assume that how ever its done I doubt the object would be moving through conventional spacetime, so friction probably isn't a limiting factor or force to be handled by the crafts surfaces, I could only guess that gravity manipulation or dimensional travel through a lower dimensional level, if dimensions have size or scale then entering one that's smaller traveling through it and exiting could have you travel unimaginable distances in our dimension while only traveling short distance in subspace.
I tend not to just rule out claims because i cant figure it out or think science hasn't solved it yet, i find it more interesting to try and understand how it might be possible.
but if itās not traveling through spacetime, then is it really traveling at all? something canāt move at 210xc m/s if there are no meters to move acrossā¦
Not actually "moving" that fast, but bending spacetime around it, so that its destination is closer. So it would move the equivalent of FTL, when viewed from our casual spacetime perspective.
What we call "meters" and "seconds" only exists because every human on Earth is locked in the same gravity well, and has been for all of human existence. To us, those are objective measurements...to the universe, they're measurements inside a gravity well on one individual planet.
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I mean your poking holes in the theory yourself, not moving a distance, means itās not traveling. Which means you canāt calculate how fast itās going. Itās not traveling.
I'm not saying its not traveling, I'm saying it is just through a Dimension that has a different spacetime scale than ours, like imagine a dimension where 1 mile inside is equal to 2 miles in our spacetime, if the scale is wak enough they might have space they can get to where traveling 1 AU there equates to 100 Light Years out here.
We know that extra Dimensions exist last time I read something about them they were thinking around 12, and while we think their small, they may only apear small from our perspective for all we know if you had a way to cross into them and your perspective shifts inside might be infinite.
Iām just gonna say this:
Our ancestors even 2000 years ago could never imagine in their wildest dreams the technology we have now. Your comment would be just as relevant as someone commenting on the iPhone if they were told about it in the year 300.Ā
There are civilizations millions of years more advanced than us.Ā
I'm totally fine fantasizing about any civilization out there that has mastered some crazy feats in terms of speed and whatnot. But the Lockheed Martin engineer said 'he could develop a craft that travels 210x the speed of light'. With a human inside? An autonomous craft? Is it a drone? Which materials? Which fuel? What does it do to space time around the area where its ignited? Is it ignited and build in space? How did they exactly measure the speed of the craft? Did they already build it? Is it theoretical? Etc.
Ep. 69 of the ecosystemic futures podcast goes into this. Sponsored by NASA. Many DoE heads are on it. Give it a listen. Has to do with onboard fusion reactors using lattice confinement fusion.
That's the big deal. The energy production.
Going to need a fact check on that massive claim
Thereās more starts than sand dude , each with their own solar system of planets. Math is the fact check.Ā
The speed at which you are going is irrelevant. It's the speed you are going relative to anything coming into contact with your ship.
Thoughts of a pea brain
"These UFOs can fly at a bazillion miles per hour and do loops according to physics and other equations"
No external forces touch the materials since it's a self contained space time bubble.
Well to be fair, the only way you can make a claim like that and handwave materials to an extent I suppose is if the craft is just using the manipulating space around you method. But still you have to suspend a lot of disbelief to imagine that.
The thing is, spacetime is malleable, we've already observed that. Warp/spacetime bending drives are absolutely, "laws of physics as we know them", possible.
It's not that our current known understanding of physics prevents it. It's just that it would require power generation in a relatively very small space, that eclipses all the current power generation of the Earth right now.
Oh for sure, Iām not saying itās not possible.
There is no 210x the speed of light. ???
There is simply the speed limit of light and instant transmission with no travel time.
Definitely. Nuke would look like a Stone Age toy.
What if we attached a nuke to the interstellar drive?
Look at Project Orion, you weren't the first to think of it.
Imagine hitting a small asteroid or piece of debris at that speed, how do they solve that issue? Or slamming into a planet/moon ? Itās not like you can just steer round it š¤
You probably just no clip through it, the atoms dont have time to even collide at that speed.
Idk make sense.. but what do I know
Remember ( if you believe it ofcourse) the videos where orbs and tictacs just fly into mountains, like straight through massive chunks of rock. Its bizarre even thinking about it, how would it look like from the pilot/ navigators POV, just black? , state of energy/ fluid? A code?
Omfg my dream of going to the backrooms is real
I know it is bs but arriving to alpha centauri in a week sounds sooo cool. I guess there would be problems returning and having everybody you know died but still cool to think about. Maybe even a final euthanasia gift.
I see physics and logic has left the chat again...
This would be very impressive if we had this
Looks like the idea of what tech was thought to be in the 50's
That's about 8 days' travel to Proxima Centauri.
Wow only 7.5 days tp get to Alpha Centuri.
Can anyone tell me anything about the photo of the craft in 1966 shown here ? Never seen it before.
The only difference I can see these making in regards to nukes is theyād make an impossible to stop delivery system.
Sounds like a cold war mitigation tactic as a means to threaten any initiation by the Soviet Union at the time. Hire a dude to draw a fake craft then irradiate him to tie the loose end.
210x the speed of light is still very slow if you are travelling spaceā¦I believe he could do it 100%
Folks wanna believe but anytime someone says something, its bs.
Don't believe it but yea, you have something that can travel that fast, nukes are a thing of the past.
Just accelerate a car sized object to the speed of c and slam it into earth, disable the antigravitics right before impact and you'll wipe out nearly all life on earth. AKA a relativisitic missile.
faster than c? no idea what that would do with an impact. We civvies haven't had the ability to study FTL travel so all we can do is hypothesize. As it stands its all "time" effects if you somehow break humanities current understanding of light speed.
Edit: #2430 - Jay Anderson
Which episode is this
Silver Surfer vibes
is this full interview on youtube? if anyone can provide link please?
Yes, it's on the Joe Rogan page on YouTube. It was posted a few days ago. It's not difficult to find.
mate u could have ended ur comment at the 1st or 2nd sentence and it still wouldāve been helpful to this here bloke
maybe they just had the worst day of their life ya never know, try to be more patient and kind to ppl
Respect for trying to better people man
Why would Joe even have this guy on? He knows literally nothing
Bunch of grifters sucking each other off to get richer
I agree. That's why I wonder why people watch his podcast.
No one thinks 210x the speed of light is not a little oddly specific? Like wtf is 210x the speed of light? You could literally go anywhere anytime if you could actually travel that fast
Here is another point of view. If any speed has a time basis, and time is a construct based on planet observations, then it stands to reason that time would work differently from other solar systems.
Don't tell anyone but for a couple of dollars I brought a device that when switched on shoots a light beam at the speed of light and at the same time lights up the area of which I'm standing
You would be time traveling if you went that speed, correct ? Theory of relativity
Yes. Time is not a straight line.
Hate that we are listening to Joe Rogan
Jesus Christ this is the podcast for the true mentally challenged.
Yeah but nothing can travel faster than light. Thatās actually a fact.
No it's not. Veritasium just did a video on this
Oh a video. Sure. That's much better than the collective knowledge and experimental evidence scientists produce.
Ahh, I forgot Einstein, Bohr, Plank, Hiesenberg are all famous for being wrong. My mistake.
None of them say you can go faster than light.
There is literally a famous paper written called the EPR (written by some of the names I mentioned) paper that talks about the non locality of quantum mechanics. When you have entangled particles. Doesn't matter if those particles are separated by the entire universe. That information about one particle is instantaneously communicated to the other particle. Unliike light that follows the laws of locality and do have a travel time from one side of the universe to the other.
Thatās about information. Not about anything traveling faster than light. Which is impossible.
Also. Information cannot travel faster than light. Look it up.
https://scienceexchange.caltech.edu/topics/quantum-science-explained/entanglement#:~:text=A%20common%20misconception%20about%20entanglement,faster%2Dthan%2Dlight%20communications.
You using information as a descriptor is basically a non sequitur. We don't understand the mechanism that facilitates this behavior. There could be waves that have a negative mass that allow them to travel through the universe unimpeded. These particles could be popping in and out of reality into a higher dimension. The point is there is some mechanism that allows action at a distance to be possible and it happens at a rate that is faster than light.
Read the link I provided. The article says you are wrong.
That's because your use of "information" doesn't apply
As far as we know. These āfactsā are subject to change just as we thought we were the center of the universe at one time
Facts are just stories we are allowed to know. The rest is classified.
How do you know this?
Thoughts
Is someone losing the Nobel Prize?
210x speed of Sound maybe possible if air is the medium.
0.21325459317585 miles per second X 210 = 44.7834 miles per second (416 meteor)
around Earth. Measured around the equator, it is 40,075.017Ā km (24,901.461Ā mi).
556 seconds /60 =9.26 minutes around the world.
at the speed of light it would keep food warm.
meteors typically enter Earth's atmosphere at speeds ranging from about 11 kilometers per second (25,000 miles per hour) to 72 kilometers per second (160,000 miles per hour)
Thatās faster than blinking
As someone would say, sounds like bull$#ā¬,Ā but I believe.
If this was real we would be seeing some home hobbyists by now utilising the casmir effect to create anti gravity. I mean who doesn't want a hover board? Come on get it done guys.
Maybe thats what each or is..a nuke..and at this point both sides are just leaving them in place as deterrents..like..the only thing faster then sending one instantly is having one there already