No idea other than we don’t have any idea what is going on.
One thing I do know is that we need to be told. This BS that we can’t handle it and it will destroy our civilizations and cultures. So what if it does? Why can’t we build up from a position of knowledge instead of being coddled and live a lie.
Because the ones holding a monopoly on the truth and the power that comes along with that monopoly are afraid of losing it. When they say shit like they fear a collapse, or the masses can't handle the truth, or the truth is dangerous, what they really mean is they fear losing their power.
They don't give a single fuck about the masses being harmed. Its the opposite, they are fearful of us all waking up and realizing that we don't need a ruling class to govern us, to restrict us, to divide us, and to punish us for disobedience.
They are fearful of the masses realizing that we live in a truly infinite and abundent universe, one that is far more beautiful and complex and interconnected than we have been lead to believe. They fear us knowing the truth about who and what we are.
I'm playing devils advocate a little here, but have you considered the lie isn't about deceiving you, it's about protecting you? They've admitted there's unidentified objects (tic tac) buzzing around US airspace at will and there's nothing we can do about it right? They claim it's not ours, it's not our enemies, and the objects defy the laws of physics. They don't say extraterrestrial, but they say the objects need further investigation. Those last two sentences are almost word for word their assessment of the tic tac, gimbal, and go fast navy flir "videos."
Unknown objects, defying physics, in our airspace almost every day for atleast two weeks. I'd call that cause for concern and the military doesn't sit around making up stories when it comes to national security. Their tendency is to shoot first, ask questions later. Ummm, does anyone in Washington or the military seem overly concerned about those videos or unidentied drone sightings ?
Call it selfish or short sighted, but the vast majority of what the public calls lies, the truth would land people in jail; not for lying about the truth, but exposing the truth.
The best way to protect me is to give me the knowledge to protect myself. Let me know there is a threat and we can work together. Keep me in the dark and I will treat them as my enemy.
Would you be happy if they kept it secret that there was a serial killer in your area? Would you like to know there is a shark in the sea where you are going to go swimming?
Protect me by educating me. People educate their kids not to go with strangers. It is scary to a kid and there isn’t much a kid can do to fight off an adult but someone else may be the statistic instead of them.
The actual scenario was more like: US government sold feeding rights to the sharks for some teeth.
It would have been counter-productive to tell you about the sharks when the point was for you to donate body-parts.
Or go missing entirely on occasion (weirdly a case rarely mentioned).
When authority figures don't acknowledge such pitfalls, they become taboos.
Which is exactly what happened and was intended.
They say that UFO’s can be summoned by consciousness. If there is a mix of helpful and hurtful nhi that can both be summoned through human consciousness then that could be a reason to keep people in the dark. The greater number of people that have awareness of these beings could mean the greater number of beings we invite in. To go with your shark metaphor I would prefer the government not throw chum in the water while we’re already stuck swimming with the sharks.
Would you be happy if they kept it secret that there was a serial killer in your area?
Imagine the serial killer having access to superior technology. Imagine the serial killer have told the police that; if my presence would be known to the larger public I will blow up the entire planet. Now imagine that the authorities have deemed this to be true and that there is absolutely nothing they can do about it. What would be the wise thing to do here as the government? Tell the public and have us all killed because some people on reddit though that they could "handle it". Or would it be better to keep quiet and work on a solution to the problem?
First of all, I would make sure that any of the police who were leaking information to the press or public knew what was at stake. That kind of scenario would shut people up really quickly. Secondly, I wouldn’t be happy with non-serial killer deaths being blamed on the “non-existent” serial killer.
If that was the case you would do everything you could to shut it down. So few people believe anyway there is no need for show investigations, anything anomalous you could just say secret technology please don’t talk about it.
In short, I don’t believe this is a true scenario because of the way it is handled. People can talk about it. What we see happening is more of a way to get people used to it not to keep it secret.
You've obviously never served. The military absolutely makes up stories all the time to suite their needs. But, I do agree with a lot of what you are saying.
I was editor of the base newsletter at Fairchild Air Force Base in Spokane Washington 92 to 95. Just a regular enlisted guy. Any secrets would have been way over my pay grade.
It’s crazy that we don’t believe the government when they say they don’t have any NHI, but we believe them when they say it’s not their craft. Why couldn’t it be? You don’t know. You’re picking and choosing which government lie to believe to fit a narrative.
I do really think there are a large subset of people who wouldn’t be able to handle it.
Think of it this way. This sub has a large, non-trivial amount of people who are wrapped up in “the truth”. That there’s something more out there.
Could you imagine their reaction if the government came out and said, “yeah everything you’ve seen is all our stuff. No NHI, no alien tech, no bodies. All the governments are involved in secret tech wars, but it’s a prosaic arms race. It’s boring but it’s secretive.”
There are genuinely people who won’t believe it no matter how much proof is shown. They’ll always think there’s something more. They wouldn’t be able to handle it.
Well you said fuck it, so, fuck it. I reckon it's all real. And that it's our consciousness that generates it or manifests it, enough people believe in it it'll manifest. Enough belief from one believer it'll manifest. We are literally pulling all this shit outta other dimensions into our own through our own myths, legends and stories which keeps the belief alive. I reckon the gubermint knows aaaaall about it and has been hiding the truth for decades.
Humanity is spread through many galaxies as NHI had moved us around like cattle, animal husbandry and all. The automated systems in place to manage us have been escalating to prepare this colony to rejoin some of the extended human family and establish contact with different kinds of NHI. Humanity isn't a species on one planet, it's a series of genetic evolutionary enhancements to lower life forms. There is a core spiritual connection and dna transferred during this process of elevating a species. Colonies are not created by transporting people to new planets, that would take far too long in terms of reproduction capacity to maintain genetic stability. Instead humans are grown from local species, variants are killed off by the hands of other humans leaving one or several depending on how violent the species of human is. In cases of new human colonies, once they are stable they are immediately moved to similar planets nearby so that trade and support is easier should conflict arise with dissimilar groups. The joining of a human colony to the rest of the human species out there is not just in communication but also in elevating the human colony psi abilities. We had ours originally for tens of thousands of years before we pissed off the wrong NHI. hybrids were removed from Earth and we were reset. Our babysitters the greys are here to keep us on track to rejoin. A field was put in place to block those with psi abilities. We are in a kind of prison to keep our violent nature separate from the other humans out there and in other dimensions. Humanity is not just an established body plan the universe is mathematically designed to produce, it is also an expected planned spiritual connection to source. Relearning our place in the Universe is not just about learning what humanity can do, it's learning what our specific version of humanity did in the past...not all of it good...in fact a lot of it not good. So fast forward to today we are at judgement day, where our violent ways either tip the planet into complete meltdown through climate change disaster and nukes or technology saves us. We will be forbidden access to greater psi abilities population wide until we can prove that we as a society will not exhibit similar traits as before.
Obviously I have no idea, but certainly a lot of government officials and religious orgs have some explaining to do. Apparently our babysitter NHI think we need a nudge and is tired of seeing similar behaviors repeat on the global and personal scales. This would give you nice warm feeling if they are in fact the same ones that have always been here, but maybe they are not and are new and are planning to move in long term putting us under their rule. Certainly plenty of stories claim they did this in the past.
Humans are a crossbred alien species. We dont fit Earth like other animals do, we need tech and clothes to survive, we exploit everything, and our kids cant function alone for years. That doesnt look native, it looks introduced.
We may have alien DNA but we do fit earth. Humans came from Africa with warm climate. Humans don’t exploit everything. Our culture is geared with an emphasis for greed and consumption which aren’t innate human attributes. Our economic and political systems are at fault. Billionaires head our decision-making and hoard our resources.
That still fits ancient origin stories. Early humans came from Africa, and Mesopotamia was nearby along early migration routes. People described what they saw using the language they had. In Anunnaki myths, humans are created or modified by higher beings to work and manage resources. They are called gods because of perspective, not necessarily symbolism. Whether literal or myth, it is interesting how early stories frame humans as engineered rather than purely innate.
I hate to be that guy, I’m usually such a promoter of theorizing about the phenomena, but the modern basis of the Annunaki theory is from Zecharia Sitchen who vastly misinterpreted or misunderstood ancient Sumerian. It’s a disappointing factor, but damn when you actually compare his translations he was making absurd stretches, his reasoning was “expansive”. It doesn’t dismiss the entire genetic engineering argument, but we should steer the conversation away from Sitchen.
Fair point, I agree. Sitchin should not be treated as a reliable translator, his work is speculative at best. The idea does not need to rest on him though. The original texts exist, mainstream translations exist, and the discussion can stay focused on what the myths actually say about creation, labor, and intervention without leaning on his conclusions. The broader question stands even if Sitchin is removed.
It’s still a valid and intriguing argument. I’m just weary of newcomers to the topic absorbing themselves in Annunaki content not realizing they’re discussing aspects of the phenomena that come directly from Sitchin.
"In the beginning G-d created the heavens and the earth"... "So G-d created man in His own image." It's pretty straightforward; This entity geo engineered the planet. Then he created man, aka a genetically engineered ape in a pod. Then, he created woman from a piece of man, so they would no longer need birthing pods.
I appreciate the discussion but quoting the Old Testament is far from the “truth”, unless you like to follow the mainstream narrative. (Which I assume most in this sub don’t). That quote can also be spun in several different ways to mean hundreds of different things.
I wouldn’t quote people from thousands of years ago. Humans can’t even successfully play the game of telephone with 5+ people, no way we translated and passed on an entire story of our origin.
I think this is not the hot take. I think it begs the bigger existential questions.
Why? To repopulate an alien race unable to breed? Or for them to farm us (zoo theory)? Maybe a matrix situation is actually accurate? Or is this just a broader consciousness knowledge data program and we are all God?
Yeah, I know the theories. I think it is possible multiple alien races are involved, all with different motives. If we assume crossbreeding, the simplest explanation is utility, adaptability, labor, problem solving, resource extraction. Not sacred, not chosen, just useful. That use could be biological, resources, food, or basic compatibility.
Also worth noting, hundreds of thousands of people are reported missing globally every year, many never found. Not proof of anything, just a weird number we ignore. Small compared to the total population, but plenty if you are sampling a species over time.
I am on the fence about that, but the inverse that grays aged in space as humans and became that. Short, dark wide eyed little creatures. Then the rumor is those short Gray's are just drones. Everything contradicts each other so all the rumpurs can't be real obviously that goes without saying.
We weren’t meant to stay here.
And we aren’t going to be staying here.
Vessels for grace, dust to dust.
Humanity needs to evolve drastically,
Rapidly in-tune with our second nature.
We can see them coming, from the future.
There’s aliens here underwater, underground and some walking *among us, some are have been here since long ago and some probably landed here more recently. Who’s who? Idk and our government def knows about them and works for/with them. Probably won’t get the full truth for years if ever. I’d like to hope that it turns out like futurama
Probably too advanced for us, maybe theres intergalactic rules like Star Trek, or maybe our government doesn’t want us to know so only they benefit and keep control. Why do they want control over us? bc they can’t have it over them. Like when ppl have shitty days/jobs they take it out on some one else “lower” like kids/pets/strangers
Technically those would be non human intelligence & probably took a different evolutionary path than us. For example the reptilians probably evolved alongside dinosaurs in a similar way to how we evolved alongside apes but did likely originate here on earth. I also expect some of these beings evolved alongside aquatic life but millions of years sooner than humans.
I believe that as well i just have a bad habit of calling them aliens as well. But yeah some non human intelligence and some aliens have def been here before us on this planet. I also believe we have break away civilizations that have already left earth recently with modern humans.
I personally don’t consider them aliens if they’ve been here and are from here, just an undiscovered species. I see it like finding a whole new animal underwater, it’s not an alien just never been found. I could be wrong with my terminology tho lol. I would love to see one someday, well a friendly species if it’s alive.
I think you're onto something here. My own opinion is that they are probably evolved from an amphibian species like a cave salamander, hence the large black eyes and vaguely humanoid shape. Some of those tridactyl mummies are interesting as well, because their bones have grown into the implants which indicates regeneration abilities. They could have been here all along, and just avoiding us rowdy apes by retreating underwater and underground.
I think the government is keeping all sorts of paranormal stuff secret because if they make the stuff public they’d have to do something about it and they can’t
Reality is a rendered environment. We’re living in a multi-dimensional sim, and NHIs are the Admins. These NHIs are multi-dimensional agents who operate outside our physics engine. We are the NPCs, not the players. We aren't being visited; we are being debugged. The secrecy from the government? It’s not about protecting us from aliens; it’s about preventing a massive system crash once the NPCs (us) realize the game isn't real.
Pretty much exactly what I've thought for a long time. This "reality" is a simulation. The UFOs are able to defy physics because this world isn't real, and as intrusions or projections into it, they aren't subject to the physics of our universe.
And the system would absolutely crash if we were ever given concrete proof that we're in a sim. All of the pain & struggle we go through on a daily basis, all the suffering, all the loss... The idea that your arthritis, or cancer, or dead child was all part of an algorithm, just a detail to make the world seem more real, to keep you in line by having to constantly deal with hardships & pain, when a keystroke or two could have had you living the good life? If we ever get disclosure and it's "this is a simulation", ain't nobody going to work again. Hard, immediate crash.
The sapient family tree is much larger and older than we know. Megaliths are not all human, but from multiple cousin species. Some of these cousin species left Earth and occasionally return, some went underground, some under the sea. They are all far more advanced and older, and treat us as an uncontacted tribe in their nature preserve. There are also other species, completely alien, that visit here, and come in many forms. On top of that, future humans and future version of our cousin species travel back here to study.
it’s everything. aliens, inter-dimensional entities, ultra terrestrials, cryptids, ghosts, psychic phenomena. we live in a giant ecosystem that we can’t interact with unless we have a certain perspective or vibe or sense. with beings all along the spectrum of human morality.
it’s probably really amazing and partially dark like everything is, but scaled up. and i don’t think it’s a matter of government disclosure, it’ll probably be more personal than that. or not idk, grain of salt.
Religion plays a huge a roll in our understanding of this phenomenon, however the full story may be a misunderstanding of what the human soul actually is or its primary function. It is important and coveted but perhaps is more than what we have taught to unfersrand/comprehend.
God, itself is not of Earth, this we know. God created angels, other beings before God created man. So far, two non terrestrial species of life. In the Muslim tradition, God created Angels out of light, Jinnin out of of smokeless fire and man out of Earth. A supreme being, three different species of intelligent life. All of the Abrahamic religions make references to battles not of the flesh and these non Earth beings residing in dimensions outside of ours.
A lot of modern day UFO/UAP reports from the past five centuries mimic several examples in Abrahamic religions and feel it is a key to understanding this better. The misunderstanding of the human soul would be pretty shocking. Or, the return of God (like an actual date) for all to witness being held against us would be pretty shocking.
I mean, it could also be as simple as, something we don't fully understand is coming with absolute negative intentions and our species will be completely ending in our lifetime would be terrifying.
I don't think phenomenon align with major 3 abrahmic religions. This whole adam and eve concept that goes against evolution and millions of species like dinosaurs proves that these religions goes with very wrong view of world. Not to forget human like god who is full of anger and jelosey. I think our ansestors misunderstood concept of god but used it as a tool Or someone used their concept of god to deceive us(aliens?)
But still we cant ignore them. I also think Gnostic and buddhist views really touch with phenomenon. They also very good at our current scientific understanding of this world. In gnostism there is this god who is responble for creation of this world but not true god. He has many celestial beings who support him to deceive us. So we are in a false reality. Gnostic believe this is the god of old testament. Then jesus came to introducing true god. According to him no one has seen or talked to true god. This is similer to buddhist concept of samsara and escape from it which is nibbana. In samsara there are many worlds different heavens many gods. Also lower life forms like humans, animals and below. Karma of the beings responsible our next rebirth either higher of lower life forms. Those beings travel through universe. I think what we see is these beings. Lower amd higher life forms.
Not lookin to argue this idea, I do find Eastern religions interesting and full of descriptions that are very provocative.
Referencing what I know, the Book of Ezekiel is probably one of the strongest references where connection to modern day UAP can be made. Many Angels exist in the heavens, a realm we cannot immediately access yet they are able to interact with us and we somehow co exist in this Earth realm. There are a couple of key figures who have gone to heaven without experiencing death. Satan being the prince and power of the air, a deceiver and threat to humanity who in the Islamic tradition, refuse to bow down to man as it felt man was inferior. There is a lot of information presented to us in western and eastern region that I feel, can help us better understand this phenomenon. I feel there is a misunderstanding that is a modern day phenomenon and I dont believe humans got anything wrong with their experience. A lot of what has been documented is pretty detailed and that counts for something.
Religious text is the way to understanding this better. Science is the way to understand this better. Combine the two and we will get closer to an answer, good or bad. Maybe this is what is being kept from us.
Religious text is the way to understanding this better. Science is the way to understand this better. Combine the two and we will get closer to an answer,
I don't think we will get full truth. not yet. We as a society has no power. They already in control. Humans have become Maybe in after life. also religion text is not exactly a good source. They are adopted through time. You can find similer concepts hinduism buddhism. Also abrahmic faith. Also abrahmic myths. For example we think noah and flood story is jewish or islamic but its come from Mesopotamia. Early jewish tradition adopted these stories to their faith. Then come christianity which is from same rute but totally different side of god. Then islam which is basically judaism. We should be careful when dealing with religions. They may have some truth but they may also be the ultimate deceivers. They already pushing the idea of this is a religious phenomenon. There is religious push through media in these couple of years. They are difinitely preparing for a global religious war using middle east.
The most terrifying thought is that nuts and bolts UAPs are just very advanced tech in the hands of private organizations who only answer to their highest bidders.
good alien / bad alien geo political battle over earth, some goods want to continue let us evolve on our own and figure it out, bads want to conquer us, a small contingent of goods want to interfere and reveal themselves to prepare us for battle… Only a few leaders of earth know about this, but no one will listen to them. Our leadership is to shallow and money obsessed… 2027 All out Alien War , the bad aliens lose at first , then convince the dumber 50% of our population were better off joining them instead of the goods… what happens next , who the fuck knows..
Aliens are probably some future humans, some interdimensional beings, some extraterrestrials and some have lived here for eons in out oceans and underground. Everywhere we look is life, so its probably the same for different aliens
It’s a prison planet. Our amnesia is part of the prison, we are being punished for something and continually tested to see if we improve. Every single conscious being feels like something is missing or something is “wrong”, we feel disconnected.
The phenomena can be perceived as our caretakers, or the “watchers”. They’re extremely good at hiding and remaining dismissible. Yet they are so phenomenal to us, we can’t help but remember them and wonder about them.
We are being “cared for”, as much as a prisoner is cared for in a US penitentiary.
I don’t believe a strong majority of UFO stories are true. I also believe many governments are aware of this phenomenon, but the reason we dont have disclosure is because they simply have no idea what it is.
As far as what it is, my favorite lean is that this phenomenon is more metaphysical. I’m a big fan of the Jacques Vallees school of thought that this may just be more mysterious than we understand and it may have been here before us.
It’s either guiding us, made us, or observing us for reasons we’ll never understand.
We're being watched-for sure. Protected by et's from cosmic level extinction from many likely events, while also caught up in a hierarchy of intergalactic politics with countless other extra terrestrial entities. Additionally, the moon is a hollow spaceship placed specifically where it is to generate seasons and to wharehouse life and tech. ET's are already on Mars as well as walking among us-some in disguise, some without knowing it.
I think there’s stuff authorities can’t explain, and they are afraid of losing authority. I think there are things authorities know that would be dangerous to share because they would put [insert country] or its allies at a severe strategic disadvantage. I think there are things authorities know and are withholding so they have something safe to divulge when forced to do so.
I think the stuff authorities can’t explain is probably not extraterrestrial life, nor humans from the future. I think to the extent there is a spiritual component, it’s likely dark, deceptive, or veiled behind something else. I think there’s probably some human tech that’s wild. I suspect there are some experiments with unexpected results that account for some of what we are seeing.
Finally, I think I am probably wrong, but this is where I’m at with it for now.
I often wonder if the reason there is seemingly so little activity out there (as someone who doesn’t believe in little green men flying around or hyper-competent world government cover ups) is because we may be the first in our local area. Life on Earth started basically as soon as it could, but also there is no reason life has to lead to intelligence, so why not? So many people are obsessed with there being some ancient all-powerful forerunners who shaped and continue to shape everything about us, and I think that’s a very comfortable idea, but what if that’s just us, right here, right now. That idea doesn’t exactly fill me with hope exactly, but maybe it does bring about a sense of responsibility. The responsibility that we at least try to do this civilization thing right.
All of it is real, every last statement given by a dying scientist or intelligence officer is true, same goes for everything you've read online, it's all true, even the stuff you think is mutually exclusive isn't and it all just pops off all the time.
I think governments don’t give disclosure because they aren’t allowed to. I think whatever is here is perfectly capable of letting us know they’re here themselves but don’t because they don’t want to. I think the urgency whistleblowers often seem to have is less that we should be informed and more that we should be warned. Consciousness seems to play an awful lot into all this. Most paranormal phenomena are intrinsically linked to the bigger picture of all this as well.
I think there’s probably some truth to the idea of “you don’t want to know” in the sense that I’d probably not want to know I was going to be horrifically stabbed to death in front of my children July 18th 2026 at 3:30 in the afternoon and there was nothing I could do to stop it. That knowledge could easily drive a person mad with dread and sorrow.
Ultimately whatever is going on probably isn’t going to end in humanity’s best interests. There’s been plenty of reasons for something greater than us to step in and make things better but that hasn’t happened. These events seem tied to the world’s more powerful militaries and destructive capabilities and that isn’t coincidence. They seem interested in displays of superior power to us and keeping tabs on tech that might be able to counter them.
After 10 years of deep diving. This is what I know. Ready?
Aliens made the pyramids
Aliens (particularly the greys) smell like sulfur or rotten eggs,
Aliens (particularly the greys) defecate by wiping and flapping there arms
The ending of the “close encounters of the third time” actually happened.
Aliens made a deal with the government to let them abduct the people in exchange to understanding their “technology.”
An advanced alien civilization “made” us
Aliens use telepathy to communicate
There’s a galactic federation. Kind of like a nato in space.
Aliens view us as a hostile race. Some aliens civilizations don’t even wanna talk to us or have anything to do with us because we’re so “dumb and hostile.”
Some of the aliens are good, but some are bad (like humans)
“Aliens” is a broad term. They are beings like we are, and there’s different types of aliens, not all of them good. They can move through dimensions. The worst of them are tampering with humanity because they want what we have, which is emotion. The best of them? Tbh no idea lol. But I trust they are moving in harmony with all things good.
We have made CLEAR CONTACT before. All the sightings, witnesses, interviews, statements, and just everything else that has come out from this, yes could be just humans being human and sharing everything we see or hear, but at the same time so many people have seen the same exact beings or even thing for the past idk thousands of years? Since humans even began to write shit down. We’ve seen the same shit. Yes we have our imagination, but at the same time for someone to see something that another person has seen or even an entire town or city… that’s not just a “coincidence”, that’s something completely different.
The Soviets were the first people to go into space. They had a female astronaut and two other astronauts who didn’t come home. She sent out or something sent out, her breathing but it was tested and the people say it was from her “breathing” corpse. How did she record her breathing while dead? Someone or something used her body to breathe and to record that signal. She had two other passengers with her when this happened. Not one sent out anything besides her. They were already dead. They lost signal to the ship right after they got this. It just disappeared or it’s orbiting another planet because it was supposed to be “the farthest we’ve ever gone.” I recommend looking this up, but at the same time I don’t because it’s a Soviet thing and you don’t wanna mess with them. So if you do look this up, either get a VPN or just be insanely careful.
Look up the two brothers who were the ones to find out about this. I think their last names start with a B or A.. They’re NOT Russian. I actually think they might be German or Austrian; but I’m not a hundred percent sure. They made a radio out of pure boredom and a lot of chicken wire that got a lot of military signals and somehow/supposedly also this. They also got another signal from something else in space but I’m not really sure about that.. Their last name could also start with a V, but again I’m not a hundred percent sure. This happened in either the 50’s or early 60’s when the world was racing to get to space/the moon. I honestly don’t know for sure who was the first one to ACTUALLY get to space or even the moon, so I really shouldn’t have said that
All I come across is information about two Italian brothers who had attenae that could pick up signals. And they picked up a female cosmonaut burning up on re-entry. Nothing about any other crew members or another intercepted signal, though. Do you have any sources I could read up on?
This is them! The only source I can give you/even remember is a YT video from about 15 years ago when YT didn’t censor shit. I honestly don’t know if it’s still on there or not, I’d have to check and if I do find it I’ll get back to you. I’m sure tho if you type their names in the search bar, you’ll find at least one video of them and what they got and stuff. I’m sorry I can’t give a direct source, but again I’m sure if you look on YouTube you’ll find at least something.
To add to this… if you do find a newer video on YT about them and this, some may have external sources to show where they got this information. A lot of other “truth videos” or whatever on there have to have external sources based off what it is and what they’re audience says; so maybe/hopefully you’ll be able to find a bit more info about this than I can give you.
I can’t remember the guest on JRE but his idea of aliens being us in the future coming back to collect sperm and other reproductive necessities is pretty interesting. We’re already becoming super infertile as it is. Imagine a few hundred thousands of years from now
I think this is all a collective hive mind dream anyway. The universe created all of us in way to understand itself in this dimension, then at some point it will all disappear like it never happened. So, in a way, there will never be a final answer that you're willing to come to grips with. I mean we are using made up letters to form words and sentences to communicate to have meaning. Same thing. Its all made up.
All I know is I think that I feel. And I feel that I think. If aliens are real, they most likely have been living on this planet far longer than what we could guess. Probably In our oceans. I don’t know what catastrophic disclosure would do, I don’t know why it is that we still have not been told. The only thing that I could imagine that would throw the world into absolute chaos is that whatever is here has the ability to control one’s mind if it wanted. I find it extremely strange how not one scientist or military personnel has provided any kind of genuine physical evidence outside of grainy video and spoken testimony. In this day and age of technology I have to take these things at face value. So many people say they cannot say what they are, but if they actually know what it is, what they are, and most importantly what they want, they have an obligation to tell the rest of humanity, regardless of the consequences. And yet there is nothing. Whatever it is, whatever they are, just may be so terrifying that we couldn’t handle it.. but at least give us a chance.
The older i get the further i move from aliens are currently here to the government is way more advanced than they let on, per usual, and theyre just running with the aliens stuff. Maybe they were here. Maybe they werent. I dont really know.
There are anomalous things flying around that we’ve captured on radar, but beyond that, I just can’t be sure. It’s fun to follow the lore and imagine the “what if” factor.
Aliens seeded or influenced human evolution for millennia. They planted morality into us under the guise of Abrahamic religions, but they kinda sucked at it, and here we are.
So Adam n eve got kicked out of a settlment, "leaders"was named "god" told them not to eat his stuff, they didn't listen so he kicked em out of his settlment/ship with no tech, long time later the civilization traded with us from their ship Atlantis, but we fucked that up so they moved Atlantis to the Bermuda triangle, just outside of our shipping and travel lanes, they gave us some simple tech that they knew would limit us, combustion engines etc, keeps our travel areas predictable, straight lines from two points. the folks who got too close crashed, not on purpose just because their ships pull electricity from the next dimension so anything close gets drained and crashes, they maintain their moving ships in the oceans, staying away from our travel lanes and flight paths. When weird craft get called "weather baloons" they are..just not ours. They aren't extraterrestrial so when the gov says there aren't any extra terrestrial they are telling the truth. They say they dont have aliens bodies since they aren't, their civilization was already advanced, they dont overpopulate because they have figured out aging, but they need biological material, which they get from us. They hate nukes because they live here.
Option 2: they are from another dimension, ships pull energy from that dimensions vacuum, when we set off nukes it causes issues in all dimensions not just ours so they hate that, they still have mother's hips in the oceans outside shipping lanes and have guided our development to keep us away from them..thats tge deal the gov has..leave us alone and we will help.
Option 3: its some serious "woo" shit. There's good and bad ones, and somehow our brain can reel them in, as soon as everyone believes they will be everywhere including the bad ones who consider humans part of tge food chain
Take everything related to the subject with a pinch of salt - there is a chance that no aliens or NHI are present on earth. There also is a chance that they are. Unless you have seen them lucidly in the waking state (not during the hypnogogic state where hallucinations are common) but actually day to day - then take everything with a pinch of salt.
I agree with almost every comment here and just want to add that whatever is going on in our universe is far weirder, far more complex, and way deeper than anyone is guessing. Everything is on the table until we actually get some definitive truth. We don't even understand how the fundamentals of our universe even work. The more we learn about this universe the weirder and weirder it gets. String theory, quantum mechanics, simulation theory, gravity, multiple dimensions, they all just get weirder the more we try to understand them. We are basically sheep trying to comprehend how the farmers truck works. I think there's a scary and dark part of it that's really unpleasant to learn, and that's why we're being kept in the dark. Some of us could handle the truth, but humanity is far from ready to be able to handle the wild, weird, deep and dark reality
NHI monitor the universe for potential habitable planets. They monitor these planets for intelligent life. When intelligent life rises from the gene pool, NHI begin to interact. Some decide to act as spiritual guides, some as technological guides, and some as moral guides. Others experiment on us, use us for labor, harvest us for their own purposes, or kill us every so many millennia as some sort of game.
Humanity either hasn't advanced enough spiritually, morally, or technologically to be worth any meaningful interaction from a benevolent species point of view. Past humans announced our existence to the universe, and attracted the most intelligent animalistic beings in existence to earth, much to the native NHI's disappointment.
We all have NHI DNA, but that doesn't mean that we didn't originate from earth.
Not all intelligent beings are bipedal.
Humans aren't advanced or intelligent, but are in the adolescent stage as a species. We will either continue to advance or die off.
NHI exist from our frame of reference and not from our frame of reference (as in, they're imperceptible to us).
Consciousness as a whole exists in a dimension higher than this one, and chooses to incarnate here for its own purposes. All conscious intelligence originates energetically from the same source, but each individual is here for a specific branch's own reason. Many beings aren't conscious, and exist only to interact with the conscious ones, but the unconscious ones can "awaken" under the correct circumstances.
From our frame of reference, this is reality, but we exist in some cosmic system that computes, understands, interacts, runs, and exists beyond our comprehension.
We are sentient energy. Everything vibrates. The slower one vibrates, the less conscious they are. The faster one vibrates, the more aware they are. Awareness is neither good nor bad. What one does with awareness in relation to other awarenesses determines whether one is good or bad. Good and bad are also non-developed concepts that will evolve with us.
All Intelligences are one and the same, but view each other as different due to primal needs, urges, and views
Voodoo and witchcraft use the same basic principles that UFOs use. The practice is demonized publicly but utilized for military purposes. I can go on about this topic lol
They're studying us like the other races did to the Krogen in Mass Effect. We're monsters who have not evolved as a civilization to be ready to join the intergalactic agency.
I just don't know if they'll save us from ourselves by turning the tide before we kill ourselves or let it happen to study how we do in the rubble too
Edit: the idea aliens didn't start arriving until we created the nuclear bomb is very interesting. It's like the turning point in a civilisations destructive/creative energy building blocks that they come you see what's up. I like that. You hear a gunshot, should probably go see what's going on
Nope. Just earthlings making up stories since WW2 cause some people were on guard duty instead of having war stories and wanted to sound cool and important. So they were instead guarding/testing ET craft. That’s exactly how this started.
This is all a simulation, there's different levels of reality. Some guys live in the simulation, some exist outside and come in every now and then. Maybe before we were born and after we die we go to another level of reality. There are things that come from those other levels. We are not prepared to understand many things.
I think we’re like a Petri dish monitored by trans-dimensional beings for whatever reason. Every so often something goes really wrong because of -us- and we all die or something so they rewind time to stop bad event x from happening - hence the whole Mandela effect thing because there are fragments remaining from the old timeline e.g. the uptick in UAPs over the last few years - perhaps there have been countless global conflicts / annihilation because of Ukraine & the Middle East - the UAPs are monitoring key areas to make event x doesn’t happen again.
So it means we still have our day to day agency but as a species we do not. We are being shepherded to some kind of final goal.
Everything else is just fluff.
Edit - just to add - CERN is used as a temporal waypoint. When it has been used for really energetic experiments, it creates an anchor in time which is much easier to reset to. It’s why the last 20 years have just felt so… weird. Because we’ve had loads and loads of time resets!
UAPs aren’t recent visitors. They’re monitoring systems that were always here, mostly automated, mostly uninterested unless we hit specific danger points. Nukes got attention because they can destabilize the experiment. AI probably does too.
Many humans are so focused on protecting their egos that they willingly harm themselves and other beings. We’ve been tortured into believing we must serve our own interests first at the cost of others.
In my heart I know the majority of humanity wants peace, and the pain of non-peace around them causes them to participate in “Us VS Them” perceptions. We are all One people, regardless of any differences.
My take is there aren’t aliens. All this weird tech people are seeing is our own. (“Ours” meaning Human, not necessarily American)
Think of all the crazy shit we’ve discovered by ourselves: Nuclear Physics, Quantum Mechanics, Special Relativity, etc. We already figured out crazy shit completely on our own, and that’s just what’s out in the open. What might have we discovered that isn’t in textbooks yet?
What takes more assumptions?
- A super advanced alien race exists, discovered us, traveled here, didn’t kill us, crash landed and/or gifted us tech (LOL), and now there’s a top down coverup to hide the crazy shit. OR…
- We built it on our own, and there’s a top down coverup to hide the crazy shit.
Your theory is more credible than you think. As far as im aware, we dont really know where or how life originally started. What we do know is earth wasnt always around. Therfor the start of concious life, (bacteria and wtv)had to have come from somewhere else in the universe and happend to crashland on a planet perfect for evolution.
the earth is a farm for consciousness cultivation, or some other form of product, and humans are like alien GMOs. maybe telling everyone would not only disrupt civilization, but also decrease product quality for some reason
The galaxy (and universe) is full of life. Some of it is highly intelligent. Some of them are monitoring us for a mix of mostly scientific and cautionary movies.
Old technologies get confused with new technologies.
I'm a firm believer in Atlantis and the predictions of Edgar Cacye. The conspiracy research points to using aliens as the last great military industrial complex villain.
Rudolph Steiner talked about the incarnation of Ahriman in the west, which I can see being more likely than the Anti-Christ coming through A.I. and Robots.
The military has deep underground military bases, and at the very least the government has technology thats 50 years ahead of us.
MKULTRA is real. Books like MILABS and Mind Control World Control, lead me to believe that's at least some of abductions are the united states government or the five eyes of the military intelligence.
Cattle mutilations might be happening because of the numerous atomic testing that happened, and the livestock in the area needs to be tested to see the radiation levels.
Also in the occult world, various religions and practices talk about sacrificing Bulls.
Even traveling at the speed of light it would take around 1.5 years to travel from one side of our solar system to the other side. I wouldn't want to travel that long, but thats me. I also don't understand if cryogenic freezing works, if you become frozen don't you die? What happens to your soul?
Linda Moulton Howe has talked about grey aliens protecting souls, but she has ties to Lawrence Rockefeller. And the Rockefellers are Americans Rothschilds.
Or there's the time travel aspect
Whatever the government will tell us will at most be a half truth or an out right lie.
Maybe at the end of the day it will be Angel's vs Demons vs Aliens vs Time Travels vs robots/A.I. vs whatever other explanations
Aliens are here. They are explorers observing our growth as a planet and collection of civilizations. They've been watching us for most of our history. They've interacted a few times, but only when it was unavoidable or necessary. They don't mean us any harm at all. In fact, they are very interested in our growth as a species and very concerned about our development of nuclear energy. They are concerned that we'll destroy our planet before we develop the science to leave it and join the other interstellar civilizations that exist.
I don’t think we are a naturally evolved race and our consciousness has been imparted upon us.
That’s the bit that keeps us apart from the other animals on our planet. The question I keep coming back to is “why do other animals not show the same level of consciousness as we do even though they are all as evolved to survive as we are?”
Ok, so 165 Million years ago homo sapiens crash landed on planet Earth, wiped out the Dinosaurs and what? Just had civilizations that came and went until Sumeria and Egypt?
I want to believe but……I feel like we’re being played. I think the hypersonic missiles that Russia and China have developed have left the US and its Allies vulnerable and they’ve created a narrative to project that they have secret Alien tech to appear to still have the upper hand and convince Russia and China not to use their weapons until the US and it’s Allies catch up. It’s possible that Grush and co are deliberately committing perjury to make the psyop seem plausible and will be pardoned in the future.
It’s akin to a ghost story. People making claims but no one has any physical proof to share.
My take is fairly in line with the ancient alien hypothesis, except humans - homo sapiens - weren't their only creation, just their most prolific. Most of the things we call cryptids are descendants from other hybridization experiments.
The reason this planet seems to garner so much interest from other races - in the lore of everything from new age and starseed beliefs to straight up abductee phenomenon - is because humanity is an attempt to fix genetic contamination of an otherwise untouched world. There's a lot of interest in whether or not the attempt can be successful.
We humans are very keen on the notion that invasive species are destructive. That's what happened to Earth. After unsuccessful attempts to capture and eliminate that invasive factor, the decision was made to intentionally guide the genetic evolution of this planet to out compete the invasive species - the lesser of two evils. Homo Sapiens.
Now, we may view ourselves as fairly destructive to the planet in terms of pollution and other environmental factors. Things like that can be fixed - it's of concern, but not of the highest concern. We could screw the planet up enough to make it unlivable for us humans, but the planet's ecosystem will correct itself in time. Remember: the survival of humanity is not the priority. The survival of Earth's biosphere is.
The oceans have risen up to 300ft above current sea level and fallen 400 feet below current sea level. Life goes on, because native species adapt - they evolve behaviorally and biologically.
Everything I've claimed would lead to the conclusion that modern humans are, at least in some part, non-native. Here's to hoping we can learn to live like the native species.
My take is that so-called "aliens" are interdimensional creatures. Older generations (and some people today) call/called them angels and demons. They aren't wrong.
It’s real. There are aliens, they do not care about us, they are curious like we are curious about monkeys. They are studying us to better understand themselves and how civilizations rise and fall.
They do not want to intervene so they do not mess up the observations, to not mess up our balance, but also as a safety measure so we do not turn hostile in the future.
We have nothing to offer them (technologically, resource wise) except to monitor us like we monitor the hierarchies and societies of apes to understand how protohumans functioned.
They are not us from the future visiting the past, same way people who study apes are not descendants of those apes that came to visit them. It’s just curiosity on how species evolve, collaborate and advance.
There are no souls, consciousness is not important, when we die we just die. All religions are made up and faith is only real within an individual’s mind. If we pissed em off they could wipe us. Shooting a missile at them, is like an uncontacted tribe throwing a spear - hardly an annoyance. Stealing their tech and using it against them or trying to invade them, that’d get pretty ugly for us very quickly and surgically so.
Also, they are monitoring our TV channels and are on the internet too. They do like cats a lot, though they do not fully understand why we are so fascinated about cats and not the superior in their eyes possum!
Governments can’t do shit as they do not actually know much beyond “there is something we do not understand yet”. And that something is not looking to be understood. This inability to answer any meaningful questions makes full disclosure hard as there will only be more hard and pressing questions than before.
I don't know about all that but we're probably something the aliens don't like. There's allot of bad stuff humans have done(more bad things than good I think) that probably would make me embarrassed/ashamed to be human around another species that knows about us. Another theory I've heard is we're being trapped in a void cut off from the rest of the universe & won't be able to go beyond it even if we could. Basically they can come & go whenever they want but we wouldn't be able to. This would also kind of explain why most governments of the world aren't serious about space travel/exploration.
Its not about the "aliens" its not about "technology" its about what happens after we die.
The majority of the world wont be able to digest it and will want to check out because of what's next. Read your Bible and repent. Jesus Christ is Lord, King of Kings.
Aliens exist. To many planets in the universe for us to be alone.
They're not here.
I want to believe though, but someone somewhere by now would have given solid, concrete evidence if there was some global/government conspiracy involving thousands to tens of thousands of people.
But so far nothing other than buy this book/movie today and we'll give you the actual proof later.
I often wonder if the reason there is seemingly so little activity out there (as someone who doesn’t believe in little green men flying around or hyper-competent world government cover ups) is because we may be the first in our local area. Life on Earth started basically as soon as it could, so I think life existing elsewhere is essentially inevitable, but also there is no reason life has to lead to intelligence, so why not? So many people are obsessed with there being some ancient all-powerful forerunners who shaped and continue to shape everything about us, and I think that’s a very comfortable idea, but what if that’s just us, right here, right now. That idea doesn’t exactly fill me with hope exactly, but maybe it does bring about a sense of responsibility. The responsibility that we at least try to do this civilization thing right.
No idea other than we don’t have any idea what is going on.
One thing I do know is that we need to be told. This BS that we can’t handle it and it will destroy our civilizations and cultures. So what if it does? Why can’t we build up from a position of knowledge instead of being coddled and live a lie.
This man gets it.
No i don't think he does
Technically yes, you are correct.
Exactly
Because the ones holding a monopoly on the truth and the power that comes along with that monopoly are afraid of losing it. When they say shit like they fear a collapse, or the masses can't handle the truth, or the truth is dangerous, what they really mean is they fear losing their power.
They don't give a single fuck about the masses being harmed. Its the opposite, they are fearful of us all waking up and realizing that we don't need a ruling class to govern us, to restrict us, to divide us, and to punish us for disobedience.
They are fearful of the masses realizing that we live in a truly infinite and abundent universe, one that is far more beautiful and complex and interconnected than we have been lead to believe. They fear us knowing the truth about who and what we are.
I'm playing devils advocate a little here, but have you considered the lie isn't about deceiving you, it's about protecting you? They've admitted there's unidentified objects (tic tac) buzzing around US airspace at will and there's nothing we can do about it right? They claim it's not ours, it's not our enemies, and the objects defy the laws of physics. They don't say extraterrestrial, but they say the objects need further investigation. Those last two sentences are almost word for word their assessment of the tic tac, gimbal, and go fast navy flir "videos."
Unknown objects, defying physics, in our airspace almost every day for atleast two weeks. I'd call that cause for concern and the military doesn't sit around making up stories when it comes to national security. Their tendency is to shoot first, ask questions later. Ummm, does anyone in Washington or the military seem overly concerned about those videos or unidentied drone sightings ?
Call it selfish or short sighted, but the vast majority of what the public calls lies, the truth would land people in jail; not for lying about the truth, but exposing the truth.
The best way to protect me is to give me the knowledge to protect myself. Let me know there is a threat and we can work together. Keep me in the dark and I will treat them as my enemy.
Would you be happy if they kept it secret that there was a serial killer in your area? Would you like to know there is a shark in the sea where you are going to go swimming?
Protect me by educating me. People educate their kids not to go with strangers. It is scary to a kid and there isn’t much a kid can do to fight off an adult but someone else may be the statistic instead of them.
Very valid points. I don't think I could or want to argue against any of those points. You kinda hit on a personal fear with the shark scenario.
The actual scenario was more like: US government sold feeding rights to the sharks for some teeth.
It would have been counter-productive to tell you about the sharks when the point was for you to donate body-parts.
Or go missing entirely on occasion (weirdly a case rarely mentioned).
When authority figures don't acknowledge such pitfalls, they become taboos.
Which is exactly what happened and was intended.
They say that UFO’s can be summoned by consciousness. If there is a mix of helpful and hurtful nhi that can both be summoned through human consciousness then that could be a reason to keep people in the dark. The greater number of people that have awareness of these beings could mean the greater number of beings we invite in. To go with your shark metaphor I would prefer the government not throw chum in the water while we’re already stuck swimming with the sharks.
Imagine the serial killer having access to superior technology. Imagine the serial killer have told the police that; if my presence would be known to the larger public I will blow up the entire planet. Now imagine that the authorities have deemed this to be true and that there is absolutely nothing they can do about it. What would be the wise thing to do here as the government? Tell the public and have us all killed because some people on reddit though that they could "handle it". Or would it be better to keep quiet and work on a solution to the problem?
Genuinely interested what you think.
First of all, I would make sure that any of the police who were leaking information to the press or public knew what was at stake. That kind of scenario would shut people up really quickly. Secondly, I wouldn’t be happy with non-serial killer deaths being blamed on the “non-existent” serial killer.
If that was the case you would do everything you could to shut it down. So few people believe anyway there is no need for show investigations, anything anomalous you could just say secret technology please don’t talk about it.
In short, I don’t believe this is a true scenario because of the way it is handled. People can talk about it. What we see happening is more of a way to get people used to it not to keep it secret.
You've obviously never served. The military absolutely makes up stories all the time to suite their needs. But, I do agree with a lot of what you are saying.
I was editor of the base newsletter at Fairchild Air Force Base in Spokane Washington 92 to 95. Just a regular enlisted guy. Any secrets would have been way over my pay grade.
It’s crazy that we don’t believe the government when they say they don’t have any NHI, but we believe them when they say it’s not their craft. Why couldn’t it be? You don’t know. You’re picking and choosing which government lie to believe to fit a narrative.
You have to be lied if rich wants to stay rich.
I do really think there are a large subset of people who wouldn’t be able to handle it.
Think of it this way. This sub has a large, non-trivial amount of people who are wrapped up in “the truth”. That there’s something more out there.
Could you imagine their reaction if the government came out and said, “yeah everything you’ve seen is all our stuff. No NHI, no alien tech, no bodies. All the governments are involved in secret tech wars, but it’s a prosaic arms race. It’s boring but it’s secretive.”
There are genuinely people who won’t believe it no matter how much proof is shown. They’ll always think there’s something more. They wouldn’t be able to handle it.
Well you said fuck it, so, fuck it. I reckon it's all real. And that it's our consciousness that generates it or manifests it, enough people believe in it it'll manifest. Enough belief from one believer it'll manifest. We are literally pulling all this shit outta other dimensions into our own through our own myths, legends and stories which keeps the belief alive. I reckon the gubermint knows aaaaall about it and has been hiding the truth for decades.
Ooo I like scifi story time!
Humanity is spread through many galaxies as NHI had moved us around like cattle, animal husbandry and all. The automated systems in place to manage us have been escalating to prepare this colony to rejoin some of the extended human family and establish contact with different kinds of NHI. Humanity isn't a species on one planet, it's a series of genetic evolutionary enhancements to lower life forms. There is a core spiritual connection and dna transferred during this process of elevating a species. Colonies are not created by transporting people to new planets, that would take far too long in terms of reproduction capacity to maintain genetic stability. Instead humans are grown from local species, variants are killed off by the hands of other humans leaving one or several depending on how violent the species of human is. In cases of new human colonies, once they are stable they are immediately moved to similar planets nearby so that trade and support is easier should conflict arise with dissimilar groups. The joining of a human colony to the rest of the human species out there is not just in communication but also in elevating the human colony psi abilities. We had ours originally for tens of thousands of years before we pissed off the wrong NHI. hybrids were removed from Earth and we were reset. Our babysitters the greys are here to keep us on track to rejoin. A field was put in place to block those with psi abilities. We are in a kind of prison to keep our violent nature separate from the other humans out there and in other dimensions. Humanity is not just an established body plan the universe is mathematically designed to produce, it is also an expected planned spiritual connection to source. Relearning our place in the Universe is not just about learning what humanity can do, it's learning what our specific version of humanity did in the past...not all of it good...in fact a lot of it not good. So fast forward to today we are at judgement day, where our violent ways either tip the planet into complete meltdown through climate change disaster and nukes or technology saves us. We will be forbidden access to greater psi abilities population wide until we can prove that we as a society will not exhibit similar traits as before.
Obviously I have no idea, but certainly a lot of government officials and religious orgs have some explaining to do. Apparently our babysitter NHI think we need a nudge and is tired of seeing similar behaviors repeat on the global and personal scales. This would give you nice warm feeling if they are in fact the same ones that have always been here, but maybe they are not and are new and are planning to move in long term putting us under their rule. Certainly plenty of stories claim they did this in the past.
Humans are a crossbred alien species. We dont fit Earth like other animals do, we need tech and clothes to survive, we exploit everything, and our kids cant function alone for years. That doesnt look native, it looks introduced.
I agree 100%. We are the result of alien genetic engineering
Paul von Ward's 'We've Never Been Alone: A History of Extraterrestrial Intervention'
We may have alien DNA but we do fit earth. Humans came from Africa with warm climate. Humans don’t exploit everything. Our culture is geared with an emphasis for greed and consumption which aren’t innate human attributes. Our economic and political systems are at fault. Billionaires head our decision-making and hoard our resources.
That still fits ancient origin stories. Early humans came from Africa, and Mesopotamia was nearby along early migration routes. People described what they saw using the language they had. In Anunnaki myths, humans are created or modified by higher beings to work and manage resources. They are called gods because of perspective, not necessarily symbolism. Whether literal or myth, it is interesting how early stories frame humans as engineered rather than purely innate.
I hate to be that guy, I’m usually such a promoter of theorizing about the phenomena, but the modern basis of the Annunaki theory is from Zecharia Sitchen who vastly misinterpreted or misunderstood ancient Sumerian. It’s a disappointing factor, but damn when you actually compare his translations he was making absurd stretches, his reasoning was “expansive”. It doesn’t dismiss the entire genetic engineering argument, but we should steer the conversation away from Sitchen.
Fair point, I agree. Sitchin should not be treated as a reliable translator, his work is speculative at best. The idea does not need to rest on him though. The original texts exist, mainstream translations exist, and the discussion can stay focused on what the myths actually say about creation, labor, and intervention without leaning on his conclusions. The broader question stands even if Sitchin is removed.
It’s still a valid and intriguing argument. I’m just weary of newcomers to the topic absorbing themselves in Annunaki content not realizing they’re discussing aspects of the phenomena that come directly from Sitchin.
"In the beginning G-d created the heavens and the earth"... "So G-d created man in His own image." It's pretty straightforward; This entity geo engineered the planet. Then he created man, aka a genetically engineered ape in a pod. Then, he created woman from a piece of man, so they would no longer need birthing pods.
No need to quote Annunaki from Sanskrit.
I appreciate the discussion but quoting the Old Testament is far from the “truth”, unless you like to follow the mainstream narrative. (Which I assume most in this sub don’t). That quote can also be spun in several different ways to mean hundreds of different things.
I wouldn’t quote people from thousands of years ago. Humans can’t even successfully play the game of telephone with 5+ people, no way we translated and passed on an entire story of our origin.
Indeed. People should check out Atra-Hasis. That's the version without them mining for gold and all of that.
Atra-Hasis sounds a lot more plausible, IMO. Especially with Millard's and Lambert's take on it.
Edit: Also check out Dalley's interpretation.
Thanks for the references! Will definitely check them out.
Everything wrong with us is learned behavior.
I think this is not the hot take. I think it begs the bigger existential questions.
Why? To repopulate an alien race unable to breed? Or for them to farm us (zoo theory)? Maybe a matrix situation is actually accurate? Or is this just a broader consciousness knowledge data program and we are all God?
Yeah, I know the theories. I think it is possible multiple alien races are involved, all with different motives. If we assume crossbreeding, the simplest explanation is utility, adaptability, labor, problem solving, resource extraction. Not sacred, not chosen, just useful. That use could be biological, resources, food, or basic compatibility.
Also worth noting, hundreds of thousands of people are reported missing globally every year, many never found. Not proof of anything, just a weird number we ignore. Small compared to the total population, but plenty if you are sampling a species over time.
I mean we don’t really need tech or clothes to survive.
As of today yeah there are people that wouldn’t be able to without it but it’s not a necessity for the human body to live.
I do agree that we don’t necessarily fit the script though. We are definitely different.
Clothes? It's currently 20 degrees above zero where I live. I'll take warm clothes.
I’m sure you would. But that doesn’t mean it’s necessary
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I am on the fence about that, but the inverse that grays aged in space as humans and became that. Short, dark wide eyed little creatures. Then the rumor is those short Gray's are just drones. Everything contradicts each other so all the rumpurs can't be real obviously that goes without saying.
We weren’t meant to stay here. And we aren’t going to be staying here. Vessels for grace, dust to dust. Humanity needs to evolve drastically, Rapidly in-tune with our second nature. We can see them coming, from the future.
There’s aliens here underwater, underground and some walking *among us, some are have been here since long ago and some probably landed here more recently. Who’s who? Idk and our government def knows about them and works for/with them. Probably won’t get the full truth for years if ever. I’d like to hope that it turns out like futurama
Why are they hiding?
Probably too advanced for us, maybe theres intergalactic rules like Star Trek, or maybe our government doesn’t want us to know so only they benefit and keep control. Why do they want control over us? bc they can’t have it over them. Like when ppl have shitty days/jobs they take it out on some one else “lower” like kids/pets/strangers
Technically those would be non human intelligence & probably took a different evolutionary path than us. For example the reptilians probably evolved alongside dinosaurs in a similar way to how we evolved alongside apes but did likely originate here on earth. I also expect some of these beings evolved alongside aquatic life but millions of years sooner than humans.
I believe that as well i just have a bad habit of calling them aliens as well. But yeah some non human intelligence and some aliens have def been here before us on this planet. I also believe we have break away civilizations that have already left earth recently with modern humans.
I suppose they would still be considered aliens just from earth instead of space.
I personally don’t consider them aliens if they’ve been here and are from here, just an undiscovered species. I see it like finding a whole new animal underwater, it’s not an alien just never been found. I could be wrong with my terminology tho lol. I would love to see one someday, well a friendly species if it’s alive.
I think you're onto something here. My own opinion is that they are probably evolved from an amphibian species like a cave salamander, hence the large black eyes and vaguely humanoid shape. Some of those tridactyl mummies are interesting as well, because their bones have grown into the implants which indicates regeneration abilities. They could have been here all along, and just avoiding us rowdy apes by retreating underwater and underground.
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I think the government is keeping all sorts of paranormal stuff secret because if they make the stuff public they’d have to do something about it and they can’t
The ‘we are the aliens’ angle shows more about human longing than cosmic history.
My take, the US govt has no fucking idea what these anomalous UAPs are.
Thats their take, not yours. What’s your take?
Reality is a rendered environment. We’re living in a multi-dimensional sim, and NHIs are the Admins. These NHIs are multi-dimensional agents who operate outside our physics engine. We are the NPCs, not the players. We aren't being visited; we are being debugged. The secrecy from the government? It’s not about protecting us from aliens; it’s about preventing a massive system crash once the NPCs (us) realize the game isn't real.
Pretty much exactly what I've thought for a long time. This "reality" is a simulation. The UFOs are able to defy physics because this world isn't real, and as intrusions or projections into it, they aren't subject to the physics of our universe.
And the system would absolutely crash if we were ever given concrete proof that we're in a sim. All of the pain & struggle we go through on a daily basis, all the suffering, all the loss... The idea that your arthritis, or cancer, or dead child was all part of an algorithm, just a detail to make the world seem more real, to keep you in line by having to constantly deal with hardships & pain, when a keystroke or two could have had you living the good life? If we ever get disclosure and it's "this is a simulation", ain't nobody going to work again. Hard, immediate crash.
Sort of like the Mods are the admins of this sub and "we," the NPCs are on reddit. Reddit is the "reality", the NHI are the MODs, and we are the NPCs.
Just watched Bugonia. Seems accurate
The sapient family tree is much larger and older than we know. Megaliths are not all human, but from multiple cousin species. Some of these cousin species left Earth and occasionally return, some went underground, some under the sea. They are all far more advanced and older, and treat us as an uncontacted tribe in their nature preserve. There are also other species, completely alien, that visit here, and come in many forms. On top of that, future humans and future version of our cousin species travel back here to study.
it’s everything. aliens, inter-dimensional entities, ultra terrestrials, cryptids, ghosts, psychic phenomena. we live in a giant ecosystem that we can’t interact with unless we have a certain perspective or vibe or sense. with beings all along the spectrum of human morality.
it’s probably really amazing and partially dark like everything is, but scaled up. and i don’t think it’s a matter of government disclosure, it’ll probably be more personal than that. or not idk, grain of salt.
Religion plays a huge a roll in our understanding of this phenomenon, however the full story may be a misunderstanding of what the human soul actually is or its primary function. It is important and coveted but perhaps is more than what we have taught to unfersrand/comprehend.
God, itself is not of Earth, this we know. God created angels, other beings before God created man. So far, two non terrestrial species of life. In the Muslim tradition, God created Angels out of light, Jinnin out of of smokeless fire and man out of Earth. A supreme being, three different species of intelligent life. All of the Abrahamic religions make references to battles not of the flesh and these non Earth beings residing in dimensions outside of ours.
A lot of modern day UFO/UAP reports from the past five centuries mimic several examples in Abrahamic religions and feel it is a key to understanding this better. The misunderstanding of the human soul would be pretty shocking. Or, the return of God (like an actual date) for all to witness being held against us would be pretty shocking.
I mean, it could also be as simple as, something we don't fully understand is coming with absolute negative intentions and our species will be completely ending in our lifetime would be terrifying.
I don't think phenomenon align with major 3 abrahmic religions. This whole adam and eve concept that goes against evolution and millions of species like dinosaurs proves that these religions goes with very wrong view of world. Not to forget human like god who is full of anger and jelosey. I think our ansestors misunderstood concept of god but used it as a tool Or someone used their concept of god to deceive us(aliens?)
But still we cant ignore them. I also think Gnostic and buddhist views really touch with phenomenon. They also very good at our current scientific understanding of this world. In gnostism there is this god who is responble for creation of this world but not true god. He has many celestial beings who support him to deceive us. So we are in a false reality. Gnostic believe this is the god of old testament. Then jesus came to introducing true god. According to him no one has seen or talked to true god. This is similer to buddhist concept of samsara and escape from it which is nibbana. In samsara there are many worlds different heavens many gods. Also lower life forms like humans, animals and below. Karma of the beings responsible our next rebirth either higher of lower life forms. Those beings travel through universe. I think what we see is these beings. Lower amd higher life forms.
they're downvoting you but I agree with you lol
Not lookin to argue this idea, I do find Eastern religions interesting and full of descriptions that are very provocative.
Referencing what I know, the Book of Ezekiel is probably one of the strongest references where connection to modern day UAP can be made. Many Angels exist in the heavens, a realm we cannot immediately access yet they are able to interact with us and we somehow co exist in this Earth realm. There are a couple of key figures who have gone to heaven without experiencing death. Satan being the prince and power of the air, a deceiver and threat to humanity who in the Islamic tradition, refuse to bow down to man as it felt man was inferior. There is a lot of information presented to us in western and eastern region that I feel, can help us better understand this phenomenon. I feel there is a misunderstanding that is a modern day phenomenon and I dont believe humans got anything wrong with their experience. A lot of what has been documented is pretty detailed and that counts for something.
Religious text is the way to understanding this better. Science is the way to understand this better. Combine the two and we will get closer to an answer, good or bad. Maybe this is what is being kept from us.
I don't think we will get full truth. not yet. We as a society has no power. They already in control. Humans have become Maybe in after life. also religion text is not exactly a good source. They are adopted through time. You can find similer concepts hinduism buddhism. Also abrahmic faith. Also abrahmic myths. For example we think noah and flood story is jewish or islamic but its come from Mesopotamia. Early jewish tradition adopted these stories to their faith. Then come christianity which is from same rute but totally different side of god. Then islam which is basically judaism. We should be careful when dealing with religions. They may have some truth but they may also be the ultimate deceivers. They already pushing the idea of this is a religious phenomenon. There is religious push through media in these couple of years. They are difinitely preparing for a global religious war using middle east.
no matter what there will always be a person trying to sell a book lmao
The most terrifying thought is that nuts and bolts UAPs are just very advanced tech in the hands of private organizations who only answer to their highest bidders.
more than likely we are of alien descent. either directly alien, directly created by aliens or manipulated by them.
good alien / bad alien geo political battle over earth, some goods want to continue let us evolve on our own and figure it out, bads want to conquer us, a small contingent of goods want to interfere and reveal themselves to prepare us for battle… Only a few leaders of earth know about this, but no one will listen to them. Our leadership is to shallow and money obsessed… 2027 All out Alien War , the bad aliens lose at first , then convince the dumber 50% of our population were better off joining them instead of the goods… what happens next , who the fuck knows..
Aliens are probably some future humans, some interdimensional beings, some extraterrestrials and some have lived here for eons in out oceans and underground. Everywhere we look is life, so its probably the same for different aliens
It’s a prison planet. Our amnesia is part of the prison, we are being punished for something and continually tested to see if we improve. Every single conscious being feels like something is missing or something is “wrong”, we feel disconnected.
The phenomena can be perceived as our caretakers, or the “watchers”. They’re extremely good at hiding and remaining dismissible. Yet they are so phenomenal to us, we can’t help but remember them and wonder about them.
We are being “cared for”, as much as a prisoner is cared for in a US penitentiary.
I don’t believe a strong majority of UFO stories are true. I also believe many governments are aware of this phenomenon, but the reason we dont have disclosure is because they simply have no idea what it is.
As far as what it is, my favorite lean is that this phenomenon is more metaphysical. I’m a big fan of the Jacques Vallees school of thought that this may just be more mysterious than we understand and it may have been here before us.
It’s either guiding us, made us, or observing us for reasons we’ll never understand.
Psyop until proven otherwise.
We're being watched-for sure. Protected by et's from cosmic level extinction from many likely events, while also caught up in a hierarchy of intergalactic politics with countless other extra terrestrial entities. Additionally, the moon is a hollow spaceship placed specifically where it is to generate seasons and to wharehouse life and tech. ET's are already on Mars as well as walking among us-some in disguise, some without knowing it.
What about this: We were aliens that used a local species or created one that could hold their soul, or maybe they just 'trip' in a body.
They are real. Always have been.
I think there’s stuff authorities can’t explain, and they are afraid of losing authority. I think there are things authorities know that would be dangerous to share because they would put [insert country] or its allies at a severe strategic disadvantage. I think there are things authorities know and are withholding so they have something safe to divulge when forced to do so.
I think the stuff authorities can’t explain is probably not extraterrestrial life, nor humans from the future. I think to the extent there is a spiritual component, it’s likely dark, deceptive, or veiled behind something else. I think there’s probably some human tech that’s wild. I suspect there are some experiments with unexpected results that account for some of what we are seeing.
Finally, I think I am probably wrong, but this is where I’m at with it for now.
I like this theory.
i think aliens are so technologically advanced & hav such advanced neurology of their brains that they can waltz into higher dimensions
I dont think so. Everything about our chemistry would indicate we are from earth.
Sometimes I doubt that there’s anything out there. Nothing makes me sadder than to think the rest of the universe is empty.
Well that's an easy thought to avoid, that's the least likely scenario.
I hope you’re right :)
I often wonder if the reason there is seemingly so little activity out there (as someone who doesn’t believe in little green men flying around or hyper-competent world government cover ups) is because we may be the first in our local area. Life on Earth started basically as soon as it could, but also there is no reason life has to lead to intelligence, so why not? So many people are obsessed with there being some ancient all-powerful forerunners who shaped and continue to shape everything about us, and I think that’s a very comfortable idea, but what if that’s just us, right here, right now. That idea doesn’t exactly fill me with hope exactly, but maybe it does bring about a sense of responsibility. The responsibility that we at least try to do this civilization thing right.
All of it is real, every last statement given by a dying scientist or intelligence officer is true, same goes for everything you've read online, it's all true, even the stuff you think is mutually exclusive isn't and it all just pops off all the time.
I think governments don’t give disclosure because they aren’t allowed to. I think whatever is here is perfectly capable of letting us know they’re here themselves but don’t because they don’t want to. I think the urgency whistleblowers often seem to have is less that we should be informed and more that we should be warned. Consciousness seems to play an awful lot into all this. Most paranormal phenomena are intrinsically linked to the bigger picture of all this as well.
I think there’s probably some truth to the idea of “you don’t want to know” in the sense that I’d probably not want to know I was going to be horrifically stabbed to death in front of my children July 18th 2026 at 3:30 in the afternoon and there was nothing I could do to stop it. That knowledge could easily drive a person mad with dread and sorrow.
Ultimately whatever is going on probably isn’t going to end in humanity’s best interests. There’s been plenty of reasons for something greater than us to step in and make things better but that hasn’t happened. These events seem tied to the world’s more powerful militaries and destructive capabilities and that isn’t coincidence. They seem interested in displays of superior power to us and keeping tabs on tech that might be able to counter them.
After 10 years of deep diving. This is what I know. Ready?
aliens did not make the pyramids, those who came before did.
who are those that had came before ?
Why make a deal and not just abduct? What leverage do we have if they’re so advanced?
Like Battlestar Galactica?
“Aliens” is a broad term. They are beings like we are, and there’s different types of aliens, not all of them good. They can move through dimensions. The worst of them are tampering with humanity because they want what we have, which is emotion. The best of them? Tbh no idea lol. But I trust they are moving in harmony with all things good.
We have made CLEAR CONTACT before. All the sightings, witnesses, interviews, statements, and just everything else that has come out from this, yes could be just humans being human and sharing everything we see or hear, but at the same time so many people have seen the same exact beings or even thing for the past idk thousands of years? Since humans even began to write shit down. We’ve seen the same shit. Yes we have our imagination, but at the same time for someone to see something that another person has seen or even an entire town or city… that’s not just a “coincidence”, that’s something completely different.
The Soviets were the first people to go into space. They had a female astronaut and two other astronauts who didn’t come home. She sent out or something sent out, her breathing but it was tested and the people say it was from her “breathing” corpse. How did she record her breathing while dead? Someone or something used her body to breathe and to record that signal. She had two other passengers with her when this happened. Not one sent out anything besides her. They were already dead. They lost signal to the ship right after they got this. It just disappeared or it’s orbiting another planet because it was supposed to be “the farthest we’ve ever gone.” I recommend looking this up, but at the same time I don’t because it’s a Soviet thing and you don’t wanna mess with them. So if you do look this up, either get a VPN or just be insanely careful.
I can't find anything on this anywhere.
Look up the two brothers who were the ones to find out about this. I think their last names start with a B or A.. They’re NOT Russian. I actually think they might be German or Austrian; but I’m not a hundred percent sure. They made a radio out of pure boredom and a lot of chicken wire that got a lot of military signals and somehow/supposedly also this. They also got another signal from something else in space but I’m not really sure about that.. Their last name could also start with a V, but again I’m not a hundred percent sure. This happened in either the 50’s or early 60’s when the world was racing to get to space/the moon. I honestly don’t know for sure who was the first one to ACTUALLY get to space or even the moon, so I really shouldn’t have said that
All I come across is information about two Italian brothers who had attenae that could pick up signals. And they picked up a female cosmonaut burning up on re-entry. Nothing about any other crew members or another intercepted signal, though. Do you have any sources I could read up on?
This is them! The only source I can give you/even remember is a YT video from about 15 years ago when YT didn’t censor shit. I honestly don’t know if it’s still on there or not, I’d have to check and if I do find it I’ll get back to you. I’m sure tho if you type their names in the search bar, you’ll find at least one video of them and what they got and stuff. I’m sorry I can’t give a direct source, but again I’m sure if you look on YouTube you’ll find at least something.
All good, thanks for the info! it's atleast something to keep the search going. I'll keep digging and see what I can find
To add to this… if you do find a newer video on YT about them and this, some may have external sources to show where they got this information. A lot of other “truth videos” or whatever on there have to have external sources based off what it is and what they’re audience says; so maybe/hopefully you’ll be able to find a bit more info about this than I can give you.
Thank you. Everyone should have to answer this question.
I can’t remember the guest on JRE but his idea of aliens being us in the future coming back to collect sperm and other reproductive necessities is pretty interesting. We’re already becoming super infertile as it is. Imagine a few hundred thousands of years from now
I think this is all a collective hive mind dream anyway. The universe created all of us in way to understand itself in this dimension, then at some point it will all disappear like it never happened. So, in a way, there will never be a final answer that you're willing to come to grips with. I mean we are using made up letters to form words and sentences to communicate to have meaning. Same thing. Its all made up.
All I know is I think that I feel. And I feel that I think. If aliens are real, they most likely have been living on this planet far longer than what we could guess. Probably In our oceans. I don’t know what catastrophic disclosure would do, I don’t know why it is that we still have not been told. The only thing that I could imagine that would throw the world into absolute chaos is that whatever is here has the ability to control one’s mind if it wanted. I find it extremely strange how not one scientist or military personnel has provided any kind of genuine physical evidence outside of grainy video and spoken testimony. In this day and age of technology I have to take these things at face value. So many people say they cannot say what they are, but if they actually know what it is, what they are, and most importantly what they want, they have an obligation to tell the rest of humanity, regardless of the consequences. And yet there is nothing. Whatever it is, whatever they are, just may be so terrifying that we couldn’t handle it.. but at least give us a chance.
I truly believe Humanity is capable of handling the ontological shock of the arrival(s) of Alien races.
We are resilient. We have what it takes to learn, adapt and refine any process we share with each other.
We are intelligent, we can handle it.
I mean…. christians directly believe in and worship an alien creator. The idea seems mainstream.
I wish I could get the average Christian to entertain such an idea lol, alas... And I was raised in the faith!
I think people need to be open to the idea that it may not be just one species.
200 sextillion stars in the known universe. Incredibly low odds that there arent TONS of alien races.
Therein lies the problem, so many stars means that the odds of a species in a somewhat similar state as us finding us are laughable.
Hot take: i do not believe in the “higher dimensional beings” speak, a little too woo for me
It’s possible !
We are apes.
I think we reeeeally want to answer the “are we alone” question soooo badly we are willing to believe just about anything.
Why is religion so popular?
Because it answers all the unanswered questions in a neat little way even if it doesn’t make any sense.
“How did the earth came to be?” God did it.
“Why are we here?” Because God wanted.
“What happens when we die?” We go to hell or heaven based on our actions….because that’s what God wants.
Obviously it’s all so simplistic and stupid…the way you talk down to a child so he calms down.
True bro. You’re so right.
Fuck it! Yes! That’s your answer for everything! Tattoo it on your forehead!
The older i get the further i move from aliens are currently here to the government is way more advanced than they let on, per usual, and theyre just running with the aliens stuff. Maybe they were here. Maybe they werent. I dont really know.
You should peek into PrisonPlanet sub
There are anomalous things flying around that we’ve captured on radar, but beyond that, I just can’t be sure. It’s fun to follow the lore and imagine the “what if” factor.
Wild theory but I've heard worse
MIB are NHI either working with our government or are working to suppress evidence so governments don’t get closer to them.
I think some are offshoots of human evolution able to visit us through time or different dimensions.
Aliens seeded or influenced human evolution for millennia. They planted morality into us under the guise of Abrahamic religions, but they kinda sucked at it, and here we are.
So Adam n eve got kicked out of a settlment, "leaders"was named "god" told them not to eat his stuff, they didn't listen so he kicked em out of his settlment/ship with no tech, long time later the civilization traded with us from their ship Atlantis, but we fucked that up so they moved Atlantis to the Bermuda triangle, just outside of our shipping and travel lanes, they gave us some simple tech that they knew would limit us, combustion engines etc, keeps our travel areas predictable, straight lines from two points. the folks who got too close crashed, not on purpose just because their ships pull electricity from the next dimension so anything close gets drained and crashes, they maintain their moving ships in the oceans, staying away from our travel lanes and flight paths. When weird craft get called "weather baloons" they are..just not ours. They aren't extraterrestrial so when the gov says there aren't any extra terrestrial they are telling the truth. They say they dont have aliens bodies since they aren't, their civilization was already advanced, they dont overpopulate because they have figured out aging, but they need biological material, which they get from us. They hate nukes because they live here.
Option 2: they are from another dimension, ships pull energy from that dimensions vacuum, when we set off nukes it causes issues in all dimensions not just ours so they hate that, they still have mother's hips in the oceans outside shipping lanes and have guided our development to keep us away from them..thats tge deal the gov has..leave us alone and we will help.
Option 3: its some serious "woo" shit. There's good and bad ones, and somehow our brain can reel them in, as soon as everyone believes they will be everywhere including the bad ones who consider humans part of tge food chain
Or, its a mix of all 3
Take everything related to the subject with a pinch of salt - there is a chance that no aliens or NHI are present on earth. There also is a chance that they are. Unless you have seen them lucidly in the waking state (not during the hypnogogic state where hallucinations are common) but actually day to day - then take everything with a pinch of salt.
Of all the theories, I tend to believe that this is a consciousness simulation involving some kind of prison planet.
The scary thing is that we may be cattle.
It would be even scarier if we were neither the jailers nor the prisoners but were deliberately created as the punishment.
I agree with almost every comment here and just want to add that whatever is going on in our universe is far weirder, far more complex, and way deeper than anyone is guessing. Everything is on the table until we actually get some definitive truth. We don't even understand how the fundamentals of our universe even work. The more we learn about this universe the weirder and weirder it gets. String theory, quantum mechanics, simulation theory, gravity, multiple dimensions, they all just get weirder the more we try to understand them. We are basically sheep trying to comprehend how the farmers truck works. I think there's a scary and dark part of it that's really unpleasant to learn, and that's why we're being kept in the dark. Some of us could handle the truth, but humanity is far from ready to be able to handle the wild, weird, deep and dark reality
Humanity is a petri dish experiment.
NHI monitor the universe for potential habitable planets. They monitor these planets for intelligent life. When intelligent life rises from the gene pool, NHI begin to interact. Some decide to act as spiritual guides, some as technological guides, and some as moral guides. Others experiment on us, use us for labor, harvest us for their own purposes, or kill us every so many millennia as some sort of game.
Humanity either hasn't advanced enough spiritually, morally, or technologically to be worth any meaningful interaction from a benevolent species point of view. Past humans announced our existence to the universe, and attracted the most intelligent animalistic beings in existence to earth, much to the native NHI's disappointment.
We all have NHI DNA, but that doesn't mean that we didn't originate from earth.
Not all intelligent beings are bipedal.
Humans aren't advanced or intelligent, but are in the adolescent stage as a species. We will either continue to advance or die off.
NHI exist from our frame of reference and not from our frame of reference (as in, they're imperceptible to us).
Consciousness as a whole exists in a dimension higher than this one, and chooses to incarnate here for its own purposes. All conscious intelligence originates energetically from the same source, but each individual is here for a specific branch's own reason. Many beings aren't conscious, and exist only to interact with the conscious ones, but the unconscious ones can "awaken" under the correct circumstances.
From our frame of reference, this is reality, but we exist in some cosmic system that computes, understands, interacts, runs, and exists beyond our comprehension.
We are sentient energy. Everything vibrates. The slower one vibrates, the less conscious they are. The faster one vibrates, the more aware they are. Awareness is neither good nor bad. What one does with awareness in relation to other awarenesses determines whether one is good or bad. Good and bad are also non-developed concepts that will evolve with us.
All Intelligences are one and the same, but view each other as different due to primal needs, urges, and views
Pure PSYOP to justify and cover grey projects above Top Secret
Voodoo and witchcraft use the same basic principles that UFOs use. The practice is demonized publicly but utilized for military purposes. I can go on about this topic lol
I think it’s more likely we share this planet with another, more advanced species, space travel is….illogical
Unfathomable amounts of life elsewhere, the "who's who" of the world have known for decades. We'll never get disclosure in our lifetime.
They're studying us like the other races did to the Krogen in Mass Effect. We're monsters who have not evolved as a civilization to be ready to join the intergalactic agency.
I just don't know if they'll save us from ourselves by turning the tide before we kill ourselves or let it happen to study how we do in the rubble too
Edit: the idea aliens didn't start arriving until we created the nuclear bomb is very interesting. It's like the turning point in a civilisations destructive/creative energy building blocks that they come you see what's up. I like that. You hear a gunshot, should probably go see what's going on
Nope. Just earthlings making up stories since WW2 cause some people were on guard duty instead of having war stories and wanted to sound cool and important. So they were instead guarding/testing ET craft. That’s exactly how this started.
This is all a simulation, there's different levels of reality. Some guys live in the simulation, some exist outside and come in every now and then. Maybe before we were born and after we die we go to another level of reality. There are things that come from those other levels. We are not prepared to understand many things.
Nope.
I think we’re like a Petri dish monitored by trans-dimensional beings for whatever reason. Every so often something goes really wrong because of -us- and we all die or something so they rewind time to stop bad event x from happening - hence the whole Mandela effect thing because there are fragments remaining from the old timeline e.g. the uptick in UAPs over the last few years - perhaps there have been countless global conflicts / annihilation because of Ukraine & the Middle East - the UAPs are monitoring key areas to make event x doesn’t happen again.
So it means we still have our day to day agency but as a species we do not. We are being shepherded to some kind of final goal.
Everything else is just fluff.
Edit - just to add - CERN is used as a temporal waypoint. When it has been used for really energetic experiments, it creates an anchor in time which is much easier to reset to. It’s why the last 20 years have just felt so… weird. Because we’ve had loads and loads of time resets!
We need to come together, love one another and take care of our beautiful planet.
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UAPs aren’t recent visitors. They’re monitoring systems that were always here, mostly automated, mostly uninterested unless we hit specific danger points. Nukes got attention because they can destabilize the experiment. AI probably does too.
You’re food, unc.
Many humans are so focused on protecting their egos that they willingly harm themselves and other beings. We’ve been tortured into believing we must serve our own interests first at the cost of others.
In my heart I know the majority of humanity wants peace, and the pain of non-peace around them causes them to participate in “Us VS Them” perceptions. We are all One people, regardless of any differences.
My take is there aren’t aliens. All this weird tech people are seeing is our own. (“Ours” meaning Human, not necessarily American)
Think of all the crazy shit we’ve discovered by ourselves: Nuclear Physics, Quantum Mechanics, Special Relativity, etc. We already figured out crazy shit completely on our own, and that’s just what’s out in the open. What might have we discovered that isn’t in textbooks yet?
What takes more assumptions? - A super advanced alien race exists, discovered us, traveled here, didn’t kill us, crash landed and/or gifted us tech (LOL), and now there’s a top down coverup to hide the crazy shit. OR… - We built it on our own, and there’s a top down coverup to hide the crazy shit.
Your theory is more credible than you think. As far as im aware, we dont really know where or how life originally started. What we do know is earth wasnt always around. Therfor the start of concious life, (bacteria and wtv)had to have come from somewhere else in the universe and happend to crashland on a planet perfect for evolution.
the earth is a farm for consciousness cultivation, or some other form of product, and humans are like alien GMOs. maybe telling everyone would not only disrupt civilization, but also decrease product quality for some reason
The galaxy (and universe) is full of life. Some of it is highly intelligent. Some of them are monitoring us for a mix of mostly scientific and cautionary movies.
Old technologies get confused with new technologies.
I'm a firm believer in Atlantis and the predictions of Edgar Cacye. The conspiracy research points to using aliens as the last great military industrial complex villain.
Rudolph Steiner talked about the incarnation of Ahriman in the west, which I can see being more likely than the Anti-Christ coming through A.I. and Robots.
The military has deep underground military bases, and at the very least the government has technology thats 50 years ahead of us.
MKULTRA is real. Books like MILABS and Mind Control World Control, lead me to believe that's at least some of abductions are the united states government or the five eyes of the military intelligence.
Cattle mutilations might be happening because of the numerous atomic testing that happened, and the livestock in the area needs to be tested to see the radiation levels.
Also in the occult world, various religions and practices talk about sacrificing Bulls.
Even traveling at the speed of light it would take around 1.5 years to travel from one side of our solar system to the other side. I wouldn't want to travel that long, but thats me. I also don't understand if cryogenic freezing works, if you become frozen don't you die? What happens to your soul?
Linda Moulton Howe has talked about grey aliens protecting souls, but she has ties to Lawrence Rockefeller. And the Rockefellers are Americans Rothschilds.
Or there's the time travel aspect
Whatever the government will tell us will at most be a half truth or an out right lie.
Maybe at the end of the day it will be Angel's vs Demons vs Aliens vs Time Travels vs robots/A.I. vs whatever other explanations
Aliens are here. They are explorers observing our growth as a planet and collection of civilizations. They've been watching us for most of our history. They've interacted a few times, but only when it was unavoidable or necessary. They don't mean us any harm at all. In fact, they are very interested in our growth as a species and very concerned about our development of nuclear energy. They are concerned that we'll destroy our planet before we develop the science to leave it and join the other interstellar civilizations that exist.
I don’t think we are a naturally evolved race and our consciousness has been imparted upon us.
That’s the bit that keeps us apart from the other animals on our planet. The question I keep coming back to is “why do other animals not show the same level of consciousness as we do even though they are all as evolved to survive as we are?”
Ok, so 165 Million years ago homo sapiens crash landed on planet Earth, wiped out the Dinosaurs and what? Just had civilizations that came and went until Sumeria and Egypt?
I want to believe but……I feel like we’re being played. I think the hypersonic missiles that Russia and China have developed have left the US and its Allies vulnerable and they’ve created a narrative to project that they have secret Alien tech to appear to still have the upper hand and convince Russia and China not to use their weapons until the US and it’s Allies catch up. It’s possible that Grush and co are deliberately committing perjury to make the psyop seem plausible and will be pardoned in the future. It’s akin to a ghost story. People making claims but no one has any physical proof to share.
we killed the dinosaurs because we crashed or because we don't remember the crash? are you saying we were the asteroid?
Nah, I was born on this planet for sure.
Money money money, that’s it
My take is fairly in line with the ancient alien hypothesis, except humans - homo sapiens - weren't their only creation, just their most prolific. Most of the things we call cryptids are descendants from other hybridization experiments.
The reason this planet seems to garner so much interest from other races - in the lore of everything from new age and starseed beliefs to straight up abductee phenomenon - is because humanity is an attempt to fix genetic contamination of an otherwise untouched world. There's a lot of interest in whether or not the attempt can be successful.
We humans are very keen on the notion that invasive species are destructive. That's what happened to Earth. After unsuccessful attempts to capture and eliminate that invasive factor, the decision was made to intentionally guide the genetic evolution of this planet to out compete the invasive species - the lesser of two evils. Homo Sapiens.
Now, we may view ourselves as fairly destructive to the planet in terms of pollution and other environmental factors. Things like that can be fixed - it's of concern, but not of the highest concern. We could screw the planet up enough to make it unlivable for us humans, but the planet's ecosystem will correct itself in time. Remember: the survival of humanity is not the priority. The survival of Earth's biosphere is.
The oceans have risen up to 300ft above current sea level and fallen 400 feet below current sea level. Life goes on, because native species adapt - they evolve behaviorally and biologically.
Everything I've claimed would lead to the conclusion that modern humans are, at least in some part, non-native. Here's to hoping we can learn to live like the native species.
My take is that so-called "aliens" are interdimensional creatures. Older generations (and some people today) call/called them angels and demons. They aren't wrong.
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It’s real. There are aliens, they do not care about us, they are curious like we are curious about monkeys. They are studying us to better understand themselves and how civilizations rise and fall.
They do not want to intervene so they do not mess up the observations, to not mess up our balance, but also as a safety measure so we do not turn hostile in the future.
We have nothing to offer them (technologically, resource wise) except to monitor us like we monitor the hierarchies and societies of apes to understand how protohumans functioned. They are not us from the future visiting the past, same way people who study apes are not descendants of those apes that came to visit them. It’s just curiosity on how species evolve, collaborate and advance.
There are no souls, consciousness is not important, when we die we just die. All religions are made up and faith is only real within an individual’s mind. If we pissed em off they could wipe us. Shooting a missile at them, is like an uncontacted tribe throwing a spear - hardly an annoyance. Stealing their tech and using it against them or trying to invade them, that’d get pretty ugly for us very quickly and surgically so.
Also, they are monitoring our TV channels and are on the internet too. They do like cats a lot, though they do not fully understand why we are so fascinated about cats and not the superior in their eyes possum!
Governments can’t do shit as they do not actually know much beyond “there is something we do not understand yet”. And that something is not looking to be understood. This inability to answer any meaningful questions makes full disclosure hard as there will only be more hard and pressing questions than before.
That’s all. This is the big disclosure.
I don't know about all that but we're probably something the aliens don't like. There's allot of bad stuff humans have done(more bad things than good I think) that probably would make me embarrassed/ashamed to be human around another species that knows about us. Another theory I've heard is we're being trapped in a void cut off from the rest of the universe & won't be able to go beyond it even if we could. Basically they can come & go whenever they want but we wouldn't be able to. This would also kind of explain why most governments of the world aren't serious about space travel/exploration.
I’m still yet to be convinced. I need 100% proof. Nothing out there is 100% proof. Sue me.
Its not about the "aliens" its not about "technology" its about what happens after we die.
The majority of the world wont be able to digest it and will want to check out because of what's next. Read your Bible and repent. Jesus Christ is Lord, King of Kings.
Aliens exist. To many planets in the universe for us to be alone.
They're not here.
I want to believe though, but someone somewhere by now would have given solid, concrete evidence if there was some global/government conspiracy involving thousands to tens of thousands of people.
But so far nothing other than buy this book/movie today and we'll give you the actual proof later.
I often wonder if the reason there is seemingly so little activity out there (as someone who doesn’t believe in little green men flying around or hyper-competent world government cover ups) is because we may be the first in our local area. Life on Earth started basically as soon as it could, so I think life existing elsewhere is essentially inevitable, but also there is no reason life has to lead to intelligence, so why not? So many people are obsessed with there being some ancient all-powerful forerunners who shaped and continue to shape everything about us, and I think that’s a very comfortable idea, but what if that’s just us, right here, right now. That idea doesn’t exactly fill me with hope exactly, but maybe it does bring about a sense of responsibility. The responsibility that we at least try to do this civilization thing right.
i dont think aliens are visiting us. thats my hot take