I repeatedly come across posts where people ask what is a good course to take in order to learn Music Production or DJing or maybe something else like animation or whatever...
And often I will see how many people kind of put them down and sometimes in pretty harsh manner for even bringing that up.
Looks, sometimes it's true and some people just think they're going to be spoon-fed all of the information and learn in the easiest way possible... But that's not always the case.
We all learn differently. I have pretty advanced ADHD and OCD so I find it easier when I am in the program but I want to be able to choose that program. You can just stick me in any kind of school or course and expect me to get optimal results.
While I can and sometimes prefer learning on my own; I often also like taking a course to learn something. It gives me a direction and then I feel way more confident spreading my wings and fly and just do things on my own and just experimenting with everything.
I'm just asking not to knock people's spirits down simply for asking that question. If you want to downvote this post; I couldn't care less. I don't really care about obtaining reddit karma or whatever. I care about the real life karma and that, you cannot touch.
Just thought I would put it out there. Have a great week everyone.
Music theory courses have really opened my eyes. Should have done it decades ago
Any suggestions on what you did or what worked? I 'm at the point where I know I should be doing this!
https://www.lightnote.co/ this one is cool
Whoa, Nellie! I learned quite a bit in just a few moments. Thank you so much.
i really liked the JJ allen Udemy course, 'music theory for electronic music' (i think that's what it's called). keep an eye out for specials, was like 25AUD for a 30 hr course
Let me know what exactly you're looking for and I will be able to point you in the right direction. I can also show you some great YouTube channels. Some of them are operated by people who actually offer courses and have great material so you can check out their content before you actually purchase something from them.
Personally I think I could benefit from some music theory knowledge above the absolute basics, like I know what a Chord and a Key and a Mode are. I can even name some of them. But usually I'm out here just winging it!
I wouldn't know what im doing if it wasn't for the course I did
tbh, Right? Courses can really give you that structured boost. It's like having a roadmap for navigating all the noise out there!!
Care to share the name of the course? I'm happy you found something which worked for you.
Sure! Im happy to share what helped me https://seedtostage.com/
Anthony is always teaching me something new with his YouTube videos. Definitely check out his channel on YouTube
yea it needs to be mentioned that he has plenty of freely available content as well
I want to sign up for his courses. But I don’t know what the progression should be after the beginner course. Any suggestions?
I would suggest checking out his YouTube content. Lots of free stuff and lots of it is similar to his courses. I skipped through most the beginner stuff but even that had some things I didn't know so its always good to start at the beginning.
I believe the order goes:
Songwriting > Sound Design > Mixing / Mastering > Live Performance
I wanted to sign up to the courses for ages and then I finally did but had a really hard time following along. Its not his teaching style so much, I think its just the music he makes during the course just doesn't resonate with me whatsoever so I find it really difficult to pay attention to for more than a few minutes at a time.
Luckily I got the entire bundle at a steep discount.
I don’t often encounter the idea that courses teaching music production are never worth it. However, I do encounter reviews that say some specific courses are better than others.
Find well reviewed resources, and use them. In the ableton world you can even further restrict your choice to someone who has Ableton certification and is known in the ableton live world.
Definitely people should share what works for them and then do their research and by all means, buy courses, when it makes sense.
Berklee Pulse is goated and its free.
I still think generally speaking that most people can figure out what they are doing without a course, but for some people who need a bit more guidance and structure I dont see anything wrong with them. If you are okay paying for it and get something out of it who cares what mfs like me think.
I've done a lot of them. some are good and some are absolute waste of time and money. if you get the one that's right for you, it's very helpful.
Some of my biggest level ups have been from courses. Sometimes it's not even the content, but a change of perspective or an idea.
I wish we would just ban all strawman post titles on reddit, it’s just a framing device for OPs own opinion.
“One person said courses are a waste of time so I’m going to make a post about why I think courses are great and frame it as an unpopular opinion even though nearly every human thinks a course is an efficient way to learn something”
What are you even talking about? I can link you to dozens of these kind of posts and several of them are posts I started. A lot of people here have nothing to do but to behave in a confrontational manner.
Why on earth will they start to post like this if this wasn't the actual issue? I was just trying to stand up for some people who wouldn't stand up for themselves.And instead, just take it quietly and not get to learn something because of select toxic type of redditors.
A new reddit account that's probably going to sell a course in a couple days. Sure! lol
Smh....
your username is DJ By Ear, if that's not the name of the course, then I guess I owe you one, but this guy kind of has a point. .
My username is DJ by Ear because it's known amongst DJs that you should learn how to DJ by ear so I thought it was kind of clever. He could also take a moment and look at all of my posts and see that it's an actual legitimate account.
yeah that's a fair point too. But I heard DjBySync is the way to go these days! :D
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I did a course and learnt what would’ve taken me years in 10 weeks, I loved it so much and don’t regret it in the slightest
I learned back in the day just by playing around, starting with the first Live versions. People were trying every music production software like they were video games. But eventually, I noticed that I was all over the place and losing time, especially when mixing. Things didn't sound the way I wanted. Then I tried every course I could find. There is also a risk to overdo it, like getting in the tutorial rabbit hole. Now, I highly recommend looking for a good course. Learn the basics, and then keep going where your interests take you: one thing at a time.
One of the fastest ways to learn is by watching someone else do it, which is what we often get to see in a course. If you got friends that are great producers and you can go sit in their studio, that's amazing but not everyone has that chance and that's where courses come in to replace that experience to some degree.
99% of the time those who look down on courses are those who haven't actually tried one. I started with a course, and i'm too busy having fun with music to go online and rain on other peoples parades.
I am going through Seed To Stage courses now, and they’re incredible for teaching about the small details in instruments and how to find things. I may never fiddle with a knob in the right situation to understand its effect on sound.
Strong agree, they’re super valuable!
After years of production i signed up for a production bootcamp and im already may better than before I started and ive only been in for a month
why would learning your daw in a structured way be a waste of time?
Hats off to you for saying this! Thank you.
Udemy is great.
I think the main problem with a lot of courses is that most of them are just focused on one genre or one topic rather than give you the full picture and talking also about the psychology of producing music and giving you systems you can use in your own production. So you end up taking a course that doesn’t solves the source of what you’re stuck with and, by the end you learned a lot of information but ultimately still stuck with the same things.
I’ve found courses useful from time to time. Just finished one with BCIT here in Vancouver that was useful. I think the main thing is just not to spend your whole time doing courses and remember to still spend time making music.
What in the world are you talking about? You're making up things that don't exist or you're being totally delusional. Half the questions in this sub are people asking for advice about which courses to take or good youtube channels, etc.
Feel free to share any courses you have found particularly helpful.
I purchased the Mr. Bill membership for a little while and I thought it was definitely worth it. So much so that I might purchase it again and work through the videos.
I am checking out Seed to Stage and I think it will be a great set of courses (the bundle).
The few courses I took from Andrew Huang or Curtis King were kind of helpful, as in helping you not have a million tabs open but I don't know if they were worth the high price tag.
I made it worth my while because of the community and the way I reached out and made some connections with people but it was kind of not the most worth it based on exclusive information and really it was pretty basic (The one with Curtis King was a bit more interesting but at the same time I don't know that I like his style that much so I would prefer some more professional teaching me if I were to do this again) I find that his regular videos were more helpful than his course. At the same time for me particularly, in the way it got me into this whole industry after a long break; it was worth it in that way.
I recently purchased the Iconic Artist Blueprint 2.0 by Natasha AUSTERE aka Artist House. She's all over my Instagram because of the algorithm but honestly as much as I could actually learn all of that stuff on my own; I find it very convenient that everything is in one place. I'm not letting her manipulate me into thinking that she is the only one who can give me that answer but she has everything put together pretty nicely so I don't have to waste time looking for everything as an older adult one my time is a huge commodity.
So yeah, I find some courses very useful.
Seed 2 stage does look decent, bit expensive though.
If you scroll through and watch one of the sample classes, they're $100 less from that page.
I paid that amount and feel it's good value, tbh.
He updates and adds to them when new Ableton functions get added & the discord is pretty active.
I think once enrolled it also entitles you to Ableton EDU discount if you wanted to upgrade.
I'm interested, should i open from 'free workshop' page?
Scroll down first page and tap/click one of the courses, Scroll a bit and near the price you should see "view curriculum". Tap that and Scroll to a sample lesson video.
Watching one should bring up the $100 discount. Edit - Scroll the text again, it's at the bottom.
It works.. but my wallet don't cooperate with me though lol. Thanks by the way
They had an incredible deal which was 50% off of everything for black friday, so look out for another one coming up for boxing day. keep in mind.That it's still quite expensive, but it's worth it, education is worth investing into.
the all course black friday bundle is a great investment, plus you get edu discounts on stuff from ableton and other sites
I grabbed the S2S beginner Ableton course, it's been really good to cover some fundamentals I missed when self-teaching myself. His free material is top-notch, and I'd be curious about his other courses also.
I did the Seed 2 Stage Songwriting and Production and the Mixing and Mastering in Ableton. Both were invaluable and worth every penny. His free content is great too. Plus he’s genuinely a good dude who puts a ton of effort into all of the material he puts out. He’ll answer questions too. Highly recommend for anyone like myself who needs structured learning and an organized syllabus to go through.
Edit: one other thing I like about his courses is that he does not push 3rd party plugins at all. He’s all about learning how to use Ableton’s stock plugins which I appreciated. And he regularly updates everything. So when Roar came out, or when the Expressive Chords or new auto filter came out he had the class content updated quickly to add those things. So even though I’d already been through the course, because you have lifetime access to his videos you can go back and fill in those gaps.
Get in how you fit in.
IMO learning the software doesn't need a course, learning music theory and learning to play an instrument does need some kind of teacher, private classes for learning an instrument are the best investment since that is the one thing where you need the attention to detail only a teacher can give you.
After you learn to play an instrument and/or music theory and you have some musical ideas you wanna record/sequence learning the software will be smooth.
The big problem many beginners face is trying to use the software without any musical ideas to actually put down.