I hate to say this because I’m a French citizen but France closed its last human zoo in 1994!! Medical care was provided by the park vets, I wish I was joking.
It’s the opposite of the fine that they required Haiti to pay to make up for all of the slaves that the French lost when there was a revolution in Haiti.
Haiti didn't finish paying off that debt until the 1950's. France has issued an official apology to Haiti for making them pay it... but they've flatly refused to even talk about paying them back.
When the court ruling technically necessitates the payment of a fee or fine, but they don't actually intend to impose a punitive fee so they charge a small amount. It's also known as a peppercorn fee
Germany also had human zoos. I dont remember when it ended but I do remember reading Info boards about this in Tierpark Hagenbeck (one of the Zoos that did that)
Yeah in this one we can't really dunk on the US. And even if it's a shameful part it's still our history and we must face it, it was a crime against humanity, we were responsible for it and now it's on us to take the lessons so we don't go this way again
It lasted 6 months... basically the time for justice to hear about it and close it. It was illegal from the beginning, hardly the last standing human zoo. The story is a boss exploiting foreign workers. Im sure you can still find a few of those today in France.
There's a lot they haven't taught you. I work for a school system, they recently removed an AP History class with college credit because parents were concerned it would teach Critical Race Theory.
Wait till you read about atrocities committed by Belgians in Congo. You can read - King Leopold's Ghost: A Story of Greed, Terror and Heroism in Colonial Africa book by Adam Hochshild
No it's not. You can find it on the website of the Centre for Historical Research and Documentation on War and Contemporary Society (Cegesoma), a historical research institute and archive based in Belgium.
The photo is part of this album, titled: “Collection Monsieur Van de Meerssche: Congo Belge, [1950-1960].”
All that says is that the photo was taken in Belgian Congo(which was the claim here) and not in Somalia(which was the claim that website was debunking)
That specific one looks like somebody tried really poorly to clean up the original with some sort of software, but the original is from around 1950-1960.
A Google reverse image and keyword searches found a photo posted here on the website of the Centre for Historical Research and Documentation on War and Contemporary Society (Cegesoma), a historical research institute and archive based in Belgium.
The photo is part of this album, titled: “Collection Monsieur Van de Meerssche: Congo Belge, [1950-1960].”
Ya that’s the only source I’m seeing, I found. A colorized one where it isn’t all morphed. So my bad lol, without seeing this prior it looks like fkn ai with whatever’s been done to this one lol
The Philippine-American war was one of bloody imperialism, but calling it genocidal is an outright lie. The large part of the estimated 200k civilian deaths has been attributed to a cholera outbreak exacerbated by the war.
If you want to talk genocide, read about Japan's actions in the Philippines. The massacre of Manila alone saw 100k civilian deaths in the span of one month, almost entirely perpetrated directly by Japanese forces.
Edit: It's neat how you can identify botted comment sections. Dissenting opinions get spammed with downvotes in the first half hour, before ticking up more slowly as people come across it independently.
The post is about “doing once evil things”, you replied to some that “still does [evil things]”. Gave you a recap of some of the last 10 years that are globally considered “evil things”.
Do you want with that infos. Not here to debate on historical facts.
Post is about human zoos in the US (not a US only phenomenon but still) and the genocide of Filipinos.
Dishonorable_banana said "still do".
Clover rose asked dishonourable banana to clarify "still do" (was it referring to human zoos, or genocide on Filipinos? Only dishonourable banana can clarify that)
You, sparkly pelican, jump in and list human rights abuses not specifically committed against Filipinos that no one disputes but is otherwise unrelated to clover rose asking dishonourable banana about "still do" in this context.
I know reading comprehension is hard but you could at least acknowledge that someone asking SOMEONE ELSE what "still does" is referring to in this context does not mean that they are denying history and need a snarky reply.
Are you... Deliberately being obtuse? The thread is right there. I feel like we're both reading different threads because there's no way you would intentionally carry on like this.
The things you mentioned are absolutely things to discuss. But in a different thread, where that is what the subject of the conversation is.
Clover rose asked for a clarification, you made an assumption despite not being the one being asked for the clarification. Take your own advice and comment elsewhere.
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That little girl is not sitting on that bench, she is fucking tied to that pole.
Jesus Christ. That is sickening.
How else do they keep them from being stolen? /S
for real though it’s awful
I hate to say this because I’m a French citizen but France closed its last human zoo in 1994!! Medical care was provided by the park vets, I wish I was joking.
Some humans are vile creatures :(
What?
That has to have been illegal under modern human rights law.
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"The park had to pay a symbolic one French franc in damages, plus legal fees."
The fuck? A 'symbolic' fine?
It’s the opposite of the fine that they required Haiti to pay to make up for all of the slaves that the French lost when there was a revolution in Haiti.
Haiti didn't finish paying off that debt until the 1950's. France has issued an official apology to Haiti for making them pay it... but they've flatly refused to even talk about paying them back.
When the court ruling technically necessitates the payment of a fee or fine, but they don't actually intend to impose a punitive fee so they charge a small amount. It's also known as a peppercorn fee
Germany also had human zoos. I dont remember when it ended but I do remember reading Info boards about this in Tierpark Hagenbeck (one of the Zoos that did that)
Yeah in this one we can't really dunk on the US. And even if it's a shameful part it's still our history and we must face it, it was a crime against humanity, we were responsible for it and now it's on us to take the lessons so we don't go this way again
Uuuuh the craziest part is that the zoo was opened in 1993 😱
It lasted 6 months... basically the time for justice to hear about it and close it. It was illegal from the beginning, hardly the last standing human zoo. The story is a boss exploiting foreign workers. Im sure you can still find a few of those today in France.
Bamboula's Village
The photos really make it feel extra disgusting by how modern it feels.
There's a lot they haven't taught you. I work for a school system, they recently removed an AP History class with college credit because parents were concerned it would teach Critical Race Theory.
These goddamn ignorant racists chumps are slowing life down for everyone else and I’m so unbelievably tired of it
The opposite side argues the opposite. They think things are being artificially sped up. Who is right?
In 1943, many Germans thought they were right. They were willing to die for it, too.
Doesn’t mean shit. People have been confidently wrong for all of human history.
We had black people in those zoos at that time as well. Not good :(
Wait till you read about atrocities committed by Belgians in Congo. You can read - King Leopold's Ghost: A Story of Greed, Terror and Heroism in Colonial Africa book by Adam Hochshild
https://preview.redd.it/j18d6kjew17g1.jpeg?width=4096&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d4d73d23a67bf1b54678c3a7421def74d60f4450
Edit: apparently it’s real and this is just some crazy filter or something to clean it up which morphed the children. 🤷
No it's not. You can find it on the website of the Centre for Historical Research and Documentation on War and Contemporary Society (Cegesoma), a historical research institute and archive based in Belgium.
The photo is part of this album, titled: “Collection Monsieur Van de Meerssche: Congo Belge, [1950-1960].”
Zoom in on the kid in the cage. Look at his hands feet and stomach
https://preview.redd.it/qfq38g1z327g1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=07ec72bf4d5b3d93d940f7ffdd3b51b2b52c64ac
https://pallas.cegesoma.be/pls/opac/opac.search?lan=E&seop=6&sele=3&sepa=1&doty=___&sest=belgique--colonies--congo%20(republique%20democratique)&chna=&senu=129362&rqdb=1&dbnu=1 this is the only source I could find from a fact check
Edit wrong link
All that says is that the photo was taken in Belgian Congo(which was the claim here) and not in Somalia(which was the claim that website was debunking)
Did you even read the article?
I did lol I was trying to link the photo source it gives
Fixed
No bro it was likely edited a little to make it clearer (Not a good job done lol) but it's 100% legit and quite famous too
Dude lmao then post the og one if it exists. The girl on the left’s arm morphs into the fkn cage
What do you mean?
I mean zoom in on the three kids. The black kid in the cages hands/feet/stomach things.
That specific one looks like somebody tried really poorly to clean up the original with some sort of software, but the original is from around 1950-1960.
https://factcheck.afp.com/photo-was-taken-during-belgian-colonial-rule-congo
Ya that’s the only source I’m seeing, I found. A colorized one where it isn’t all morphed. So my bad lol, without seeing this prior it looks like fkn ai with whatever’s been done to this one lol
My grandpa was in the Tanauan concentration camps. 400,000 civilians were interred, 11,000 didn’t make it out.
Went to school in SE Michigan. We learned about human zoos for sure, in fact they had that picture in the text book I think?
Didn't know about the genocide though
Fuck, most countries had human zoos at one point or another.
Doesn’t make it RIGHT.
Where the fuck did they say that?
Sure, but the post title is just another form of American Exceptionalism
Most of the world did. That doesn't make it right, but pretending this was a special evil America did is it's own form of American Exceptionalism.
The Philippine-American war was one of bloody imperialism, but calling it genocidal is an outright lie. The large part of the estimated 200k civilian deaths has been attributed to a cholera outbreak exacerbated by the war.
If you want to talk genocide, read about Japan's actions in the Philippines. The massacre of Manila alone saw 100k civilian deaths in the span of one month, almost entirely perpetrated directly by Japanese forces.
Edit: It's neat how you can identify botted comment sections. Dissenting opinions get spammed with downvotes in the first half hour, before ticking up more slowly as people come across it independently.
I will never forgive MacArthur.
Some nations have the concept of memory to never forget. Some others nations prefer the concept of forgetting and denial.
Jesus Christ…. I’m ashamed of this as an American, and as a human being.
America wasnt the only one.
Still doesn’t make it right.
And yet we move forwards.
If a state was impossible to redeem for its past and must be destroyed for its prior sins, then it is our mandate to glass the planet.
But of course that is nonsense, just because terrible things happened doesn’t mean we can’t fix them and then learn from the mistakes.
Yes, but when even acknowledging wrongs in our past becomes political, we aren't going to learn from it.
This divide has also always existed in the US (and other countries), with people denying these things ever happened, or that it wasn't that bad.
There will always be people who believe the past is a purely good thing we should return to, and they are very easy to exploit for political purposes.
WTF
evil then, evil now, pedos, rapists, racists, all the worst
Still do.
In what way?
Now we call them open floor plan offices.
Just 1 thing for the last 10 years, of course much more happened.
2015, drone attacks on civilians in Yemen.
2016, support for Saudi meddle with Qatar that effect civilians.
2017, walked way from clean power plan that will cause permanent damage to the environment
2018, actively partake into family separations at the Mexico borders
2019, withdrew from the UN Human Rights
2020, withdrew from the Paris Climate Agreement, again causing permanent damages to the whole planet
2021, caused a humanity crisis after cowardly retiring from Afganistan (after creating the issue)
2022, vote-rights + mail-in votes restrictions (actively reducing “freedom” of vote)
2023, barren funding for NGOs, causing an international backlash and actively making worse the life of USA citizens
2024, USAID cuts causing horrible death to an estimate of 1mln of people after promising help
2025, do I need to tell you what happened this year?
U.S. aren’t the good guys.
Edit; Americans downvote on this as well 🥖
But what does that have to do with human zoos?
This isn't about human rights violations as a whole, it's about the display of humans like zoo animals, which was happening in the US and Europe.
No country is a universal good guy, and the US has engaged in human rights violations. No one doubts that.
The post is about “doing once evil things”, you replied to some that “still does [evil things]”. Gave you a recap of some of the last 10 years that are globally considered “evil things”.
Do you want with that infos. Not here to debate on historical facts.
I never once said that they don't do evil things. I'm not debating. But we don't have human zoos, which "still do" appeared to refer to.
Correct, you asked “what [horrible things]” and you got some historical facts from me. This is the context.
That’s all.
Post is about human zoos in the US (not a US only phenomenon but still) and the genocide of Filipinos.
Dishonorable_banana said "still do".
Clover rose asked dishonourable banana to clarify "still do" (was it referring to human zoos, or genocide on Filipinos? Only dishonourable banana can clarify that)
You, sparkly pelican, jump in and list human rights abuses not specifically committed against Filipinos that no one disputes but is otherwise unrelated to clover rose asking dishonourable banana about "still do" in this context.
I know reading comprehension is hard but you could at least acknowledge that someone asking SOMEONE ELSE what "still does" is referring to in this context does not mean that they are denying history and need a snarky reply.
Not what the reply is saying. Don’t want to talk about the extended? Comment elsewhere.
Brief and easy.
Are you... Deliberately being obtuse? The thread is right there. I feel like we're both reading different threads because there's no way you would intentionally carry on like this.
The things you mentioned are absolutely things to discuss. But in a different thread, where that is what the subject of the conversation is.
Clover rose asked for a clarification, you made an assumption despite not being the one being asked for the clarification. Take your own advice and comment elsewhere.
This too will go down the memory hole.