When I used that ferry they zoom in, unload and load and depart inside a minute.. this one seems to be almost glacially slow by comparison- fortunately
Happened to a family member of mine. They react fast, but it doesn't make it any less dangerous. My relative was lucky and only lost his glasses in the process.
Personally, my family and I are a bit more patient and will wait for a boat to stop at a dock before yeating ourselves into the marina just so we can be the first to disembark.
I like the idea that every day this same guy tries to jump the gap and never makes it.
“Oh no! He’s on the early ferry today. Code Soggy Moron. Repeat. We have a Code Soggy Moron. Assume your positions and get ready to fish him out. And… he’s in the water. Go, go, go.”
Dude it's a tourist boat. It has the tires, it docks here probably multiple times a day. And these guys push or pull boats normally, not just to save someone.
The man you're referencing didn't stop the boat. The boat's engines stopped the boat (great crew reaction); you can see the boat slow and mostly stop before they start pushing. A small two-deck ferry weighs like 50,000 lbs or more. If the crew hadn't stopped the boat he would've been slowly crushed.
Having literally worked on the docks: you can push/pull a boat this size by yourself. Hell, you can pull massive trawlers with just two guys and some ropes.
You're not pushing the weight of the boat, you're overcoming the water resistance of that boat. They're buoyant. You don't need 50,000 lbs of force to move it. If momentum is already low, like here, the forces required to stop/move it aren't as high as you'd think. Throwing it into chatgpt (I know, I know), 500 newton of force is enough to move a 20,000kg boat. That's less than squatting your bodyweight.
That's also literally the job of all those dudes on the dock. Push/pull the ferry.
Same dude, I was a hull scraper for nearly a decade. Redditors don't actually get reality, vast majority of them will think changing your own oil will lead to a car falling on you. I've literally pushed these boats off me from the dock while I was in the water, only issue would be if the ships thrusters were on which they wouldn't be at this stage.
You are right (my experience is limited to sailboats), but you have a big caveat there: if the momentum is low. A boat that size’s momentum would increase quickly with small increments of speed. Big difference in moving a stopped boat vs trying to stop one already moving.
The momentum is low. Like I said we used to dock massive trawlers and sometimes they needed a little push/shove while the engines were already off. This is absolutely nothing.
Don't get me wrong if a wave hit at the wrong time the dude is getting crushed, but with these conditions it's no superhuman feat to stop it from moving 0.1 miles an hour.
size’s momentum would increase quickly with small increments of speed
Momentum increases linearly with speed, what are you talking about
Big difference in moving a stopped boat vs trying to stop one already moving
There is literally no difference, it's not even a matter of static vs dynamic friction. The same force that stops a slowly moving boat would take a stopped boat and put it back in the same low speed.
Okay, fair enough. I had interpreted that as you saying momentum would increase faster than linearly with speed, my bad.
That said, it still isn't impossibly hard to stop a moving boat, despite its size (as demonstrated by the worker there). It's all a matter of being able to apply a strong enough force for long enough
And if someone pushing with their leg for a few seconds is enough, I'm sure it's not enough to smush someone into a paste
The guy who "stopped the boat" was the same guy who was pulling it in via the rope he was carrying. The propellers weren't even going when the video starts.
They were probably coasting in towards the dock already. You can absolutely move a big vessel like that. I easily pushed a fully loaded rail barge away from the dock when I was a teenager.
nah easy to stop a boat like that, that close to dock boats have stop all powered momentum and slowed it down to a near dead stop. depending on wind or dock workers with lines to bring it the last few feet.
Luckily for him, he wasn’t going to. It’s a small boat, easy enough to push on your own, and that’s exactly what the dock staff do without much effort. Plus, there are two tires in place to keep the boat from hitting the dock, which would have protected him too.
Yeah it doesn’t take as much strength as people would think. This is still a feat of strength, but some might not even try, thinking it was impossible.
It makes me wonder how much force the guy would have actually been squeezed with. It looks heavy, but it's drifting very slowly and seems to just be floating freely with the momentum it already had, not an obscene amount of energy in that thing. If a guy or two can make it drift the opposite direction with a few seconds of muscle power then I don't think the squeeze would be deadly or even cause very serious injury.
Before getting downvoting yet again for entertaining my curiosity, I am NOT saying they shouldn't have tried to save him, it's always better to be on the safe side even if it wasn't strictly necessary in hindsight.
It’s all water and wind dependent. If it’s straight calm, no current and it just casually floats towards him, it still may cause injury. If the wind or current is pushing the object the injury gets worse and likely death.
Just a little wake from a passing vessel would give it enough force to crush him.
Similar to underwater barnacle removal and other scenarios where a diver is close to a vessel and it goes up and comes back down and smacks said diver.
Think of the boat as a weightlifting weight. Bench dudes can push huge weights with their arms, but when the same weight pushes on their ribcage, they can't breath.
Itll still crush. You know those fenders on boats? He would be like that. While you can push a boat away, if you don't have leverage, the boat's weight will win.
I've seen finger piers with pilings driven 20 ft down get pushed to the side by the weight of a boat over time.
It would have definitely crushed him. It took the guy a few seconds to push it in the other direction. All of that force needed to move it, imagine that equal amount of force pressing into the guys body in a split second. He would be done.
Wait, if it doesn’t take that much strength, would the guy who fell in probably live if he held his arms out? I mean, he would still suffer terrible injuries, but was the ship actually an unsurvivable crush?
Hard to say. The person who pushed it really just leveraged off the dock and slowly applied resistance. It’s like being able to apply breaks on an out of control car vs slamming in to a wall.
Even then it was when the second person jumped in that it really made a difference. Dude was able to slow it but it still looked like a collision would happen. Just a soft one. With the other guy they were able to overcome the inertia pushing the boat.
I don't know, if it's already moving, It's a bit heavy. It's not that hard to move a vessel that size, but it's the momentum that makes it extremely difficult.
I used to deckhand on a 65 ton sport fishing boat, and if the thing was moving towards the dock, you weren't stopping it, but if it was sitting there you could definitely move it, or you could slightly divert the direction is going if it was still moving,
millions do this driving their death machines all the time and if there are enough lights or traffic up ahead I see them at the next light with me anyways. Heck even w/o I think they only save like 5min per hour of driving based on a study btwn Carson City and Reno I think at least thats when I heard about the study.
And ofc if cops pulled you over you end up losing a weeks worth of time saved.
Meaning unless you are interacting with someone who refuses for you to be late and you somehow had that small a window btwn jobs in different parts of the city/state, it's better you come in one piece and anyone near you does as well its not like you actually lose money coming late. Unless its a habit and they finally fire you.
I know accidents happen, but I'll never understand how you almost kill yourself trying to do something mundane as getting off a boat. Just wait until it's closer to the ledge.
That, and the boat had buffers on the sides to keep the boat from getting damaged by the dock, and those are thick enough that, at worst, he would've been pinned between the two.
I’m glad they succeeded in rescuing him. However, they all added to the situation, this could have been many more injuries/deaths. No additional personnel should have entered the water. They should have utilized the rope and evacuated him through lifting him out of danger. They entered the impingement zone the second they left the safety of the vessel and pier.
Yeah, dudes lucky. People often forget about mass in water or even in space. Take two cars floating in space. There is no gravity, but if car A and car B drift toward each other at even a slow speed and you are between them, you get crushed. Zero g only removes the weight, not the impact.
That is literally an all time nightmare of mine - for that to happen and for me to get stuck under the Staten Island ferry in the pitch black with no way out.
Holy shit . fkn ptsd from when I was drunk and decided to try to jump to the dock off of a little twenty six footer. Well , I thought I was jumping , apparently , I literally just stepped off and fell into the water. They continued to dock.. Because , who the fuk would step off the side of the boat. I have no idea how I did not drown that night.
The crew normally announces not to get off and to keep your hands off the side before they tie up the boat. At least that's my experience. A wave could come and smash the boat against the dock. Wouldn't be pretty if you were caught in between.
I'm pretty sure most people don't need the example. I for one am glad a moron didn't die just to be an example for a small handful of potential other morons. In fact the close call is a perfect example as it is.
I was young and dumb once too and it shouldn't be a death sentence.
Great quick reactions by staff
Probably not the first time.
Very common in Thailand. That's chaopraya ferry. Looks like the new terminal 21 pier
When I used that ferry they zoom in, unload and load and depart inside a minute.. this one seems to be almost glacially slow by comparison- fortunately
I was there a week ago lol
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Happened to a family member of mine. They react fast, but it doesn't make it any less dangerous. My relative was lucky and only lost his glasses in the process.
Personally, my family and I are a bit more patient and will wait for a boat to stop at a dock before yeating ourselves into the marina just so we can be the first to disembark.
He fell.
I like the idea that every day this same guy tries to jump the gap and never makes it.
“Oh no! He’s on the early ferry today. Code Soggy Moron. Repeat. We have a Code Soggy Moron. Assume your positions and get ready to fish him out. And… he’s in the water. Go, go, go.”
Yeah. The first few got crushed like bugs between the boat and dock so there was some mandatory training.
I love when it's obvious that people know what they are doing. It gives me a feeling of safety.
They are trained for sure. You will rarely see that from a normal bystander these days.
Bright orange vest dude knows the drill. amazing how much you can deflect a boat like that.
I bet a lot of people had to die before they set up a rescue team
Kinda like osha laws in the US. Workplace regs are really written in the blood of injured and killed workers.
Dude it's a tourist boat. It has the tires, it docks here probably multiple times a day. And these guys push or pull boats normally, not just to save someone.
Im sure they start running the second they hear a splash
Well-rehearsed, like they have to do it every week.
Yep—somebody fishes the dumbass out of the water while others keep the boat away from the dock so he doesn’t get crushed. Well done.
Yep, they probably have some jerk who does this every trip holding up the boat and everyone on it because they're too important to wait.
Right! That’s a pretty good response time by the staff. It seems like they knew exactly what to do.
I like staff like that
I think it would have crushed him dead.
Only if he don't dive underneath
That wouldnt be very smart either because then he would be underwater in the dark with no clear way to rhe surface
Beats being crushed
Difference between a smoothie (crushed) and a slushy (drowned and crushed)
“Shaken or stirred?”
“Drowned and crushed, please”
This fuckin got me really bad lol
Yeah but he got out I'd say that beats being crushed or drowning
You can be resuscitated from being drowned within a few minutes. You can't be if your shit is crushed.
Nah same procedure actually. You just reinflate with the obsolete part of CPR.
Shiiiiiit, you right.
I'm sure the people who drown feel a lot better about it than the people who are crushed.
Honestly I think being crushed is probably a better way to go than drowning.
It's faster at least.
Less suffering in the end.
Better then die 100%
Or just dont jump between floating massive things?
The dock is probably open underneath
Until he swims towards the stern and gets minced from the props.. 💀
If he absolutely had to, better to try under the dock there might be space there, but realistically, that boat wouldn't have squished him.
it for sure would have squished him
One single guy pushing with his leg stopped it. He was in no danger of being crushed.
The man you're referencing didn't stop the boat. The boat's engines stopped the boat (great crew reaction); you can see the boat slow and mostly stop before they start pushing. A small two-deck ferry weighs like 50,000 lbs or more. If the crew hadn't stopped the boat he would've been slowly crushed.
Having literally worked on the docks: you can push/pull a boat this size by yourself. Hell, you can pull massive trawlers with just two guys and some ropes.
You're not pushing the weight of the boat, you're overcoming the water resistance of that boat. They're buoyant. You don't need 50,000 lbs of force to move it. If momentum is already low, like here, the forces required to stop/move it aren't as high as you'd think. Throwing it into chatgpt (I know, I know), 500 newton of force is enough to move a 20,000kg boat. That's less than squatting your bodyweight.
That's also literally the job of all those dudes on the dock. Push/pull the ferry.
Same dude, I was a hull scraper for nearly a decade. Redditors don't actually get reality, vast majority of them will think changing your own oil will lead to a car falling on you. I've literally pushed these boats off me from the dock while I was in the water, only issue would be if the ships thrusters were on which they wouldn't be at this stage.
You are right (my experience is limited to sailboats), but you have a big caveat there: if the momentum is low. A boat that size’s momentum would increase quickly with small increments of speed. Big difference in moving a stopped boat vs trying to stop one already moving.
The momentum is low. Like I said we used to dock massive trawlers and sometimes they needed a little push/shove while the engines were already off. This is absolutely nothing.
Don't get me wrong if a wave hit at the wrong time the dude is getting crushed, but with these conditions it's no superhuman feat to stop it from moving 0.1 miles an hour.
Momentum increases linearly with speed, what are you talking about
There is literally no difference, it's not even a matter of static vs dynamic friction. The same force that stops a slowly moving boat would take a stopped boat and put it back in the same low speed.
Momentum is mass times velocity.
So if velocity is your variable, mass would be the slope of the line of momentum.
So a high mass objects momentum increases faster than a low mass object as a function of its velocity.
Okay, fair enough. I had interpreted that as you saying momentum would increase faster than linearly with speed, my bad.
That said, it still isn't impossibly hard to stop a moving boat, despite its size (as demonstrated by the worker there). It's all a matter of being able to apply a strong enough force for long enough
And if someone pushing with their leg for a few seconds is enough, I'm sure it's not enough to smush someone into a paste
So confident, yet so wrong.
And 40+ upvotes
There’s a sucker born every minute.
The guy who "stopped the boat" was the same guy who was pulling it in via the rope he was carrying. The propellers weren't even going when the video starts.
Woah woah woah, are you saying our Reddit boat inertia expert u/demartus is wrong?
They were probably coasting in towards the dock already. You can absolutely move a big vessel like that. I easily pushed a fully loaded rail barge away from the dock when I was a teenager.
nah easy to stop a boat like that, that close to dock boats have stop all powered momentum and slowed it down to a near dead stop. depending on wind or dock workers with lines to bring it the last few feet.
One person can stop a surprisingly large boat - until the day the wind or the current is against them.
Luckily for him, he wasn’t going to. It’s a small boat, easy enough to push on your own, and that’s exactly what the dock staff do without much effort. Plus, there are two tires in place to keep the boat from hitting the dock, which would have protected him too.
Just like Dunkirk.
Yeah, I watched the movie "April Fool's Day" on VHS shortly after you could. It didn't turn out too well there either.
He just couldn’t wait for 10 more seconds…
Main characters doesn't wait!
*don't
Main character dont use grammar. Main character hate grammar
Main character immune to grammar corrections.
Grammar is important
Main character is importanter
My girlfriend says I have a similar problem
They said “10 more seconds” not “10 whole seconds”
Impossible! No one can go longer than 9 seconds.
https://i.redd.it/gqgrgd1skn6g1.gif
But then someone else might have been first.
had to almost get other people killed real quick
The dude pushing the boat away from the dock is the real G here
Yeah it doesn’t take as much strength as people would think. This is still a feat of strength, but some might not even try, thinking it was impossible.
It makes me wonder how much force the guy would have actually been squeezed with. It looks heavy, but it's drifting very slowly and seems to just be floating freely with the momentum it already had, not an obscene amount of energy in that thing. If a guy or two can make it drift the opposite direction with a few seconds of muscle power then I don't think the squeeze would be deadly or even cause very serious injury.
Before getting downvoting yet again for entertaining my curiosity, I am NOT saying they shouldn't have tried to save him, it's always better to be on the safe side even if it wasn't strictly necessary in hindsight.
It’s all water and wind dependent. If it’s straight calm, no current and it just casually floats towards him, it still may cause injury. If the wind or current is pushing the object the injury gets worse and likely death.
Just a little wake from a passing vessel would give it enough force to crush him.
Similar to underwater barnacle removal and other scenarios where a diver is close to a vessel and it goes up and comes back down and smacks said diver.
Every time I see something about barnacles, it just makes me think of keelhauling
That Black Sails scene man, gruesome way to go
Never occurred to me there would be barnacles involved. That makes it so much worse
Think of the boat as a weightlifting weight. Bench dudes can push huge weights with their arms, but when the same weight pushes on their ribcage, they can't breath.
This is a great analogy
Itll still crush. You know those fenders on boats? He would be like that. While you can push a boat away, if you don't have leverage, the boat's weight will win.
I've seen finger piers with pilings driven 20 ft down get pushed to the side by the weight of a boat over time.
It would have definitely crushed him. It took the guy a few seconds to push it in the other direction. All of that force needed to move it, imagine that equal amount of force pressing into the guys body in a split second. He would be done.
It's not necessarily that he would be crushed, but that he would be trapped underwater.
Had a family member die that way (before my time).
Wait, if it doesn’t take that much strength, would the guy who fell in probably live if he held his arms out? I mean, he would still suffer terrible injuries, but was the ship actually an unsurvivable crush?
I'd be more worried about being pushed under, if the ship and dock are too close you wouldn't have a way back up.
Hard to say. The person who pushed it really just leveraged off the dock and slowly applied resistance. It’s like being able to apply breaks on an out of control car vs slamming in to a wall.
Even then it was when the second person jumped in that it really made a difference. Dude was able to slow it but it still looked like a collision would happen. Just a soft one. With the other guy they were able to overcome the inertia pushing the boat.
I don't know, if it's already moving, It's a bit heavy. It's not that hard to move a vessel that size, but it's the momentum that makes it extremely difficult. I used to deckhand on a 65 ton sport fishing boat, and if the thing was moving towards the dock, you weren't stopping it, but if it was sitting there you could definitely move it, or you could slightly divert the direction is going if it was still moving,
Look at size of tow boats towing oil tankers. A small amount of force can have great effect on top of water
It’s was more of a great strength of feet.
There are 2 guys doing it. Seems to be protocol.
I love the guy that does the jump over effortlessly to help the dipshit that fell in
Lol, what a fucking dunce
Imagine if the second guy jumping fell in too lmao
Then the third, fourth, fifth, sixth and seventh guy all slip in too. Eighth guy remains the same.
Took all the risk to almost save 5 seconds.
Only to end up costing more time and now he's drenched in salt water.
millions do this driving their death machines all the time and if there are enough lights or traffic up ahead I see them at the next light with me anyways. Heck even w/o I think they only save like 5min per hour of driving based on a study btwn Carson City and Reno I think at least thats when I heard about the study.
And ofc if cops pulled you over you end up losing a weeks worth of time saved.
Meaning unless you are interacting with someone who refuses for you to be late and you somehow had that small a window btwn jobs in different parts of the city/state, it's better you come in one piece and anyone near you does as well its not like you actually lose money coming late. Unless its a habit and they finally fire you.
If you ain't first, you're last.
Shake n bake!
I know accidents happen, but I'll never understand how you almost kill yourself trying to do something mundane as getting off a boat. Just wait until it's closer to the ledge.
Kudos to the staff saving them from themselves.
I think he would have been able to push the boat away, like the staff did
Depends on how strong and comfortable in the water he is. Less leverage than the guys completely on the boats and out of the water.
That, and the boat had buffers on the sides to keep the boat from getting damaged by the dock, and those are thick enough that, at worst, he would've been pinned between the two.
Plus, the boat is further away from any wall at water lever than at pier level.
agreed. it wouldn't have just crushed him dead. that boat looked slow and easy enough to stop. Like what we saw happen
Just crushed him a little then, not to death. That's okay.
If he was aware and calm enough to push, yeah.
You can push some massive boats by hand.
But if he was struggling and didn't think to do it, he would be crushed.
Where’s the Indian train station guy to whack him with a shoe?
almost gave in to pier pressure
Was that really his best attempt to jump?
If you look closely the foot he used to push off the boat slipped out from its launch point as soon as he committed.
This is because he tried to push off on a flat surface instead of the corner of the surface. Rookie shit.
Man, he almost saved 3 seconds above everyone else. Worth it!
That guy pushing the boat away with one leg
A legend was born that day
Single idiot endangers the lives of at least 4 others.
Remember kids, impatience can kill.
I don't feel he was really in danger.
What a twat
Every sailors nightmare right there. He was panicking so it made it harder to get him out. Fortunately, the staff did not panic.
People should be criminally charged for shit like this. The staff putting themselves at risk because of one selfish person
Great reactions by staff. Well trained
You know the first words out of that kid's mouth is my phone won't turn on
Last Christmas I fell off a dock
and the very next second, I was crushed by the dock.
Also could have crushed him dead.
He didn’t even jump. A little push from his back leg and he probably would’ve made it
The staff 👏👏👏 the first guy without hesitation went to him. That could have gone horribly wrong
I’m glad they succeeded in rescuing him. However, they all added to the situation, this could have been many more injuries/deaths. No additional personnel should have entered the water. They should have utilized the rope and evacuated him through lifting him out of danger. They entered the impingement zone the second they left the safety of the vessel and pier.
Yeah, dudes lucky. People often forget about mass in water or even in space. Take two cars floating in space. There is no gravity, but if car A and car B drift toward each other at even a slow speed and you are between them, you get crushed. Zero g only removes the weight, not the impact.
That dude in the orange vest must be captain America
That is literally an all time nightmare of mine - for that to happen and for me to get stuck under the Staten Island ferry in the pitch black with no way out.
Holy shit . fkn ptsd from when I was drunk and decided to try to jump to the dock off of a little twenty six footer. Well , I thought I was jumping , apparently , I literally just stepped off and fell into the water. They continued to dock.. Because , who the fuk would step off the side of the boat. I have no idea how I did not drown that night.
The crew normally announces not to get off and to keep your hands off the side before they tie up the boat. At least that's my experience. A wave could come and smash the boat against the dock. Wouldn't be pretty if you were caught in between.
The water would have turned red if they weren't able to stop the boat.
Like the scene in the trash dump in Star Wars!!
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Ah her himmler has joined us to lecture us about social darwinism i see.
I'm pretty sure most people don't need the example. I for one am glad a moron didn't die just to be an example for a small handful of potential other morons. In fact the close call is a perfect example as it is.
I was young and dumb once too and it shouldn't be a death sentence.
That's a ridiculous take
Bro's never been on a boat
Hold my Beer...
My god some people are so freaking dumb!!!!
What was the objective? Get to shore one second before everyone else?
He could have swum to the side too
This moron couldn't even grab the fucking rope.
Guess patience has its benefits!
Really a short swim to safety at the end of the dock.
I likenthe confidence of those men that thought they could bench press a 100 ton boat to a halt. Luckily the boat was stopping anyway.
He nearly became the world's latest human boat buffer
but he wasted to save a few seconds, worth it
Yeah, don't try to cross where the huge posts are that you can grab. That's the pansy-ass way. Do it the hard way. Impress the girls.
Darwin Award candidate
1 person stopped the boat lol he was fine
No, it wouldn't.
The new employee…
Staff is so good
That was very timely from the staff
All I could murmur was noooo stupid
Now slap him!
This would more than likely crush him dead
Straight to jail
Is bro even trying to save himself?
Makes me think of that Survivor contestant who was later crushed between two train cars.
Would it really be crushed him alive, or would it be more accurate to say crushed him dead?
Standing there looking stupid!
What an idiot.
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It’s not a mistake if he learned something from it
Give him credit for at least attempting to chlorinate the gene pool.
He wasn’t even remotely close to being crushed lmao
Was this a passenger or crew being dumb? Seems like crew have life vests tho so more likely passenger.
My father in law lost his finger docking a 15 foot boat...
He deserved whatever happened
Prolly coulda crushed him dead too
I wonder how many people die every year because they're "In a hurry"?
When idiots do stupid things that require everybody else to save them
It would have crushed him dead
What a sad attempt at a jump lmao