They'll literally blame anyone but themselves and then they'll STILL vote red.
Until they can say OUT LOUD that they'd have rather voted for KAMALA HARRIS then they are no further down the "learned line" they started.
No....They'll blame everyone but the ones in charge. There's not even a point in trying anymore. They are willfully ignorant.
Go ahead. Ask ANY of them when they start realizing who they put their vote in for. They'll immediately double down and say "I would never vote for her!".
I think there are definitely people like that but I do think this is overly reductive and reflects sentiment LOUDLY broadcast online. I think a lot of the time it comes down to yeah I still wouldn't vote for her and my party is letting me down right now so I'm staying home this November
We hold Democrats accountable because we treat them as public servants and stay informed and not gullible emotional losers like conservatives. We supported Bob Menendez getting charged with corruption and Republican politicians defended him lmao.
Just like you want to hold conservatives crooks accountable for all the laws they're breaking in broad daylight, right? Fuck the Pedo Party, and fuck your whataboutism. It's all you people have to hold on to.
i’m not the person you originally replied to but what are you even asking? what accountability did you want of jay jones? those were private messages that the recipient decided to leak years later, and the people still voted for him; even more so, the leaker of said messages lost their district
Well Jones could have dropped out, for one. That’s what he would have (rightly) asked of an opponent in his same predicament, of course. Then the party itself could have disavowed him…which they also would have demanded of “the other side” had things been reversed. Finally, the voters themselves, who never, ever shut up about civility and decency and violent rhetoric, could have rejected him, like they would have expected voters on the right to do.
None of that happened, of course, because at the end of the day it’s about winning. Which is true no matter which party you belong to.
You do that now because you feel like you have nothing to lose. If the shoe were on the other foot, if your guy were the constantly embattled face of the party and sitting president, you’d circle the wagons around him, too. This isn’t because you’re corrupt, it’s because you’re human. No better—or worse—than the people on the other side.
FWIW, Menendez had a 20+ year history of corruption before he was removed, and he was replaced by a Democrat with a Democrat.
Or Biden
Hell even Obama gets shit for his use of drones and health care. This guy's point that Democrats don't hold their own party accountable just like Republicans is not rooted in any reality anyone has ever lived in. Maybe he's from the multiverse
Yes almost like, if you want a left wing or liberal candidate to replace a politician, they would be a Democrat or in rare cases left wing independents… we hold INDIVIDUALS accountable.
Cost us anything? Thousands of left wing voters refused to vote for Kamala Harris in swing states like Michigan because of the ongoing genocide against Palestinians. We called for Joe Biden to drop out.
They called for Biden to drop out because he gave a debate performance that convinced them he couldn’t win, and they thought Harris gave them a better chance to beat Trump. They were right, by the way—Biden would have lost worse than Kamala did. It had nothing to do with support for Israel.
What are you even talking about what reality have you lived in where Democrats haven't constantly held themselves accountable to the point of sabotaging themselves. Have you lived in this planet for the last few decades?
Are you serious? I’m probably older than you. Neither the Democrats nor the Republicans do anything like what you’re talking about. Politicians are crooked. Everyone knows this, to the point where it’s a trope. Don’t be a mark.
Lol. My friend, if a politician has to be replaced by then opposite party for it to be considered "held accountable for their actions" then you truly don't understand what that phrase means. It is the same thing, and what-aboutism doesn't change the facts that republicans are actively sticking up for criminals and defending blatantly illegal actions as we speak. Give it up.with the false equivalencies.
It hardly counts as moral courage to bravely ask one of your own to step aside so you can replace him with another one of your own. It’s all political theater, not principled conviction. They call for Republicans to publicly shame these supposed “predators” and claim they’d do the same, but they didn’t and wouldn’t, and don’t really care about the alleged predation except that it would maybe help them get rid of that guy that has burrowed under their skin. That’s not an endorsement of Republicans. It’s an honest assessment of reality.
Perhaps you should consider reassessment. Democrats repeatedly have, and do shame and throw their own under the bus if their behavior isn't appropriate. Republicans repeatedly defend, and obfuscate, and what-about, and falsely equivocate for their predators. The evidence is all there in the public record. There is no equivalency between the two. Please tell me which democrats have been even plausibly accused of serial abuse of a child and allowed to keep their seat, much less act as speaker of the house.
Furthermore, if the voting populace elected another democrat to replace one they booted out because of egal and/or character issues... that is just democracy you twit. If the republicans could ever run a decent candidate they would have no problem flipping seats the way democrats do. Thats politics.
No I wanted to drop out (and be arrested for his drone strikes killing an innocent man) all the same. Yes and still supported him getting arrested. How does that change anything about what I said? Yes, we had an election and the Democrat won. Get over it. Cannot you not use your brain?
I’m not upset about Jones’ election. It makes perfect sense, because the left doesn’t actually care about “holding people accountable” anymore than the right does. That’s the whole point.
Jones' stuff came out six weeks before the election, he wouldn't have been nominated had that stuff not came out. Accountability with him looked the way it was. Strong condemnation, the state party and Spanberger distancing themselves from him. There was no avenue to taking him off the ticket.
Winning is winning is true and at the end of the day winning comes first but Republicans absolutely let more slide than Democrats. That's pretty clear, we're seeing that with Trump daily....he'd never exist on the Democratic side. He'd never win a primary.
No they will not 😂 these people voted for this because they were tricked by whatever media they've been listening to. They're still listening to the same media and think that all this is because of George Soros or Hunter Biden's laptop or some stupid shit
They weren’t tricked. They voted for this with eyes open, knowing it would cause suffering. Their only miscalculation was thinking the suffering would all be for those they hate and not themselves.
They may not be able to afford health insurance but they'll sit comfortably knowing two or three kids in the state won't be using the "wrong" bathroom.
Yeah, not hardly. My local (western VA) newspaper published an article recently talking about how the state’s economy has shrank in 2025, and 90% of the comments were people blaming…Spanberger. Y’know, the Spanberger who’s not even governor yet. It’s literally insane.
My favorite part is when they make up people to blame. Like blaming Obama for stupid shit that the cheeto has done. It's never ending blame that never falls on the right target. Maybe you are the problem sir.
Fox News will tell them that it's Democrats fault so many times they'll forget everything else and blame Obama , or the next president, or Obama and the next president, or Hillary, or whatever other villain Fox News cooks up that week
I’m a Republican voter in Virginia. I blame all of them, because they allow the organized extortion racket to continue. Subsidies help some citizens, in the short term, but ultimately cause the same problem that we see with college tuition. I don’t think that’s an unfair, baseless criticism. At the same time, the alternative “free market” fraud is just as bad or worse. The entire system needs a complete overhaul, and neither party is willing (or even able) to fix it.
Buddy…there is very little that is “free market” about our healthcare market. It’s an extortion racket subject to more government regulation than just about any other industry. It is also involved in the legislative process—including through campaign financing and lobbying—to an incestuous degree.
The constitution grants no political rights to corporations or private entities. Corporations are incapable of feelings, opinions, or beliefs. Citizens United is anti-American, unconstitutional, pro-oligarchy bullshit. Anyone associating it with free-market principles is, at best, an idiot.
lol half the founders were “the fittest” because they inherited land and wealth generated and perpetuated by enslaving humans, and they carefully wrote protection for their practice of enslavement into the Constitution itself. So unless by “the founders understood survival of the fittest” you mean “the founders understood those with the power to do so enslaving their fellow man and profiting off their forced labor” maybe sit this one out and learn some actual history.
I don't like these headlines because it makes it appears as if there is legimate doubt as to who is to blame. Better: Republican voters acknowledge their party is to blame for health insurance increases. (Or, at least, "understand that...")
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Close up on his hand barely clasping a Trump branded phone. The screen confirming his purchase of the latest Baron NFT for $2500. His fingers twitching as the phone slips from his grip and clatters on the floor.
New admin doesn’t start until the middle of January. If you post this same thing at the start of February I’ll probably agree, but at the moment it just looks kinda dumb.
They never do…
Haha no they fuckin won't!
They'll literally blame anyone but themselves and then they'll STILL vote red.
Until they can say OUT LOUD that they'd have rather voted for KAMALA HARRIS then they are no further down the "learned line" they started.
No....They'll blame everyone but the ones in charge. There's not even a point in trying anymore. They are willfully ignorant.
Go ahead. Ask ANY of them when they start realizing who they put their vote in for. They'll immediately double down and say "I would never vote for her!".
They. Learned. NOTHING.
I think there are definitely people like that but I do think this is overly reductive and reflects sentiment LOUDLY broadcast online. I think a lot of the time it comes down to yeah I still wouldn't vote for her and my party is letting me down right now so I'm staying home this November
Hell, Bernie stans and other Leftists aren't even there
And its the same vice versa
We hold Democrats accountable because we treat them as public servants and stay informed and not gullible emotional losers like conservatives. We supported Bob Menendez getting charged with corruption and Republican politicians defended him lmao.
Yall sure did hold jay jones accountable for being a dick and wanting to kill a former va speaker and the kids
You really wanna play the parity game on mean/threatening tweets??
I read the messages. Comedy is legal now so why would I cancel him for his freedom of speech? I rather arrest corrupt war criminals.
Just like you want to hold conservatives crooks accountable for all the laws they're breaking in broad daylight, right? Fuck the Pedo Party, and fuck your whataboutism. It's all you people have to hold on to.
So you did or didn’t? Just to be clear.
freedom of speech 😹🤷
Right. You didn’t. Which is fine. It’s just ridiculous when you act like you’re a paragon of virtue.
i’m not the person you originally replied to but what are you even asking? what accountability did you want of jay jones? those were private messages that the recipient decided to leak years later, and the people still voted for him; even more so, the leaker of said messages lost their district
Well Jones could have dropped out, for one. That’s what he would have (rightly) asked of an opponent in his same predicament, of course. Then the party itself could have disavowed him…which they also would have demanded of “the other side” had things been reversed. Finally, the voters themselves, who never, ever shut up about civility and decency and violent rhetoric, could have rejected him, like they would have expected voters on the right to do.
None of that happened, of course, because at the end of the day it’s about winning. Which is true no matter which party you belong to.
You do that now because you feel like you have nothing to lose. If the shoe were on the other foot, if your guy were the constantly embattled face of the party and sitting president, you’d circle the wagons around him, too. This isn’t because you’re corrupt, it’s because you’re human. No better—or worse—than the people on the other side.
FWIW, Menendez had a 20+ year history of corruption before he was removed, and he was replaced by a Democrat with a Democrat.
Ask Al Frankin how well those wagons circled. Youre making a false equivalency, and its a pretty crummy argument.
Or Biden Hell even Obama gets shit for his use of drones and health care. This guy's point that Democrats don't hold their own party accountable just like Republicans is not rooted in any reality anyone has ever lived in. Maybe he's from the multiverse
Again, Franken was replaced with a Democrat, by a Democrat, in a solidly Democratic state. Low stakes, no big deal, not the same thing.
Yes almost like, if you want a left wing or liberal candidate to replace a politician, they would be a Democrat or in rare cases left wing independents… we hold INDIVIDUALS accountable.
The point is, you “hold them accountable” when it doesn’t really cost you anything. That’s politics.
Cost us anything? Thousands of left wing voters refused to vote for Kamala Harris in swing states like Michigan because of the ongoing genocide against Palestinians. We called for Joe Biden to drop out.
They called for Biden to drop out because he gave a debate performance that convinced them he couldn’t win, and they thought Harris gave them a better chance to beat Trump. They were right, by the way—Biden would have lost worse than Kamala did. It had nothing to do with support for Israel.
What are you even talking about what reality have you lived in where Democrats haven't constantly held themselves accountable to the point of sabotaging themselves. Have you lived in this planet for the last few decades?
Are you serious? I’m probably older than you. Neither the Democrats nor the Republicans do anything like what you’re talking about. Politicians are crooked. Everyone knows this, to the point where it’s a trope. Don’t be a mark.
Lol. My friend, if a politician has to be replaced by then opposite party for it to be considered "held accountable for their actions" then you truly don't understand what that phrase means. It is the same thing, and what-aboutism doesn't change the facts that republicans are actively sticking up for criminals and defending blatantly illegal actions as we speak. Give it up.with the false equivalencies.
It hardly counts as moral courage to bravely ask one of your own to step aside so you can replace him with another one of your own. It’s all political theater, not principled conviction. They call for Republicans to publicly shame these supposed “predators” and claim they’d do the same, but they didn’t and wouldn’t, and don’t really care about the alleged predation except that it would maybe help them get rid of that guy that has burrowed under their skin. That’s not an endorsement of Republicans. It’s an honest assessment of reality.
Perhaps you should consider reassessment. Democrats repeatedly have, and do shame and throw their own under the bus if their behavior isn't appropriate. Republicans repeatedly defend, and obfuscate, and what-about, and falsely equivocate for their predators. The evidence is all there in the public record. There is no equivalency between the two. Please tell me which democrats have been even plausibly accused of serial abuse of a child and allowed to keep their seat, much less act as speaker of the house.
Furthermore, if the voting populace elected another democrat to replace one they booted out because of egal and/or character issues... that is just democracy you twit. If the republicans could ever run a decent candidate they would have no problem flipping seats the way democrats do. Thats politics.
No I wanted to drop out (and be arrested for his drone strikes killing an innocent man) all the same. Yes and still supported him getting arrested. How does that change anything about what I said? Yes, we had an election and the Democrat won. Get over it. Cannot you not use your brain?
I’m not upset about Jones’ election. It makes perfect sense, because the left doesn’t actually care about “holding people accountable” anymore than the right does. That’s the whole point.
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Jones' stuff came out six weeks before the election, he wouldn't have been nominated had that stuff not came out. Accountability with him looked the way it was. Strong condemnation, the state party and Spanberger distancing themselves from him. There was no avenue to taking him off the ticket.
Winning is winning is true and at the end of the day winning comes first but Republicans absolutely let more slide than Democrats. That's pretty clear, we're seeing that with Trump daily....he'd never exist on the Democratic side. He'd never win a primary.
No they will not 😂 these people voted for this because they were tricked by whatever media they've been listening to. They're still listening to the same media and think that all this is because of George Soros or Hunter Biden's laptop or some stupid shit
They weren’t tricked. They voted for this with eyes open, knowing it would cause suffering. Their only miscalculation was thinking the suffering would all be for those they hate and not themselves.
They may not be able to afford health insurance but they'll sit comfortably knowing two or three kids in the state won't be using the "wrong" bathroom.
Not until they put sexual assault stations in front of every bathroom will they be comfortable
They don’t actually care about sexual assault or they wouldn’t be letting so many who do it off the hook.
They want genitalia inspection stations outside every bathroom.
Genitalia inspection = Sexual Assault, hence why they don’t care.
I misunderstood your post, my bad!
Yeah, not hardly. My local (western VA) newspaper published an article recently talking about how the state’s economy has shrank in 2025, and 90% of the comments were people blaming…Spanberger. Y’know, the Spanberger who’s not even governor yet. It’s literally insane.
People are idiots
My favorite part is when they make up people to blame. Like blaming Obama for stupid shit that the cheeto has done. It's never ending blame that never falls on the right target. Maybe you are the problem sir.
No they won't. There's gonna be some Republicans on this thread explaining how it's actually Democrats' fault.
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No they won't
Fox News will tell them that it's Democrats fault so many times they'll forget everything else and blame Obama , or the next president, or Obama and the next president, or Hillary, or whatever other villain Fox News cooks up that week
I’m a Republican voter in Virginia. I blame all of them, because they allow the organized extortion racket to continue. Subsidies help some citizens, in the short term, but ultimately cause the same problem that we see with college tuition. I don’t think that’s an unfair, baseless criticism. At the same time, the alternative “free market” fraud is just as bad or worse. The entire system needs a complete overhaul, and neither party is willing (or even able) to fix it.
You sound like a communist tbh. The free market is the reason America has the greatest healthcare system in the world.
Buddy…there is very little that is “free market” about our healthcare market. It’s an extortion racket subject to more government regulation than just about any other industry. It is also involved in the legislative process—including through campaign financing and lobbying—to an incestuous degree.
Now you’re denying the right of corporations and other private entities to participate in the political process?
Okee doke bud. Thanks for coming.
Whatever, comrade
The constitution grants no political rights to corporations or private entities. Corporations are incapable of feelings, opinions, or beliefs. Citizens United is anti-American, unconstitutional, pro-oligarchy bullshit. Anyone associating it with free-market principles is, at best, an idiot.
Corporations have been considered people since long before Citizens United. It goes back to the 19th century.
"Sorry, son. I know you're in pain and your spleen is bleeding out, but Daddy's still waiting on two more competing quotes."
It’s not the government’s responsibility to help its people survive. The Founders understood survival of the fittest.
lol half the founders were “the fittest” because they inherited land and wealth generated and perpetuated by enslaving humans, and they carefully wrote protection for their practice of enslavement into the Constitution itself. So unless by “the founders understood survival of the fittest” you mean “the founders understood those with the power to do so enslaving their fellow man and profiting off their forced labor” maybe sit this one out and learn some actual history.
And even the ones that do will blindly fill in the little bubble next to the R every November for the rest of their miserable lives.
They’re gonna blame Spanberger for it and she isn’t even in the office yet.
No they won't. They'll blame anyone but themselves and those who look like them.
I don't like these headlines because it makes it appears as if there is legimate doubt as to who is to blame. Better: Republican voters acknowledge their party is to blame for health insurance increases. (Or, at least, "understand that...")
Nope. My father is blaming democrats for all of this.
Should but won’t.
You misspelled Biden
This right here is the perfect example of why I’m content to let the conservatives kill themselves off.
Int.: The disheveled study of a self-made small businessman. He sits facing away from the camera silhouetted by a roaring fire.
Close up on his hand barely clasping a Trump branded phone. The screen confirming his purchase of the latest Baron NFT for $2500. His fingers twitching as the phone slips from his grip and clatters on the floor.
Close up on his lips as he utters his final word.
Businessman (sotto voce): Sorossssssss
You jerk off to the weirdest shit, dude.
As they should. Dems have to get shit done and they don’t seem to be doing anything at all.
New admin doesn’t start until the middle of January. If you post this same thing at the start of February I’ll probably agree, but at the moment it just looks kinda dumb.
One universal fact. People will always blame the opposite party no matter what.