President Donald Trump signed an executive order today moving marijuana out of the federal government’s most restrictive drug category, formally acknowledging that cannabis has medical value and a lower potential for abuse than previously recognized.
The order reclassifies marijuana from Schedule I, alongside heroin, to Schedule III, placing it in the same category as drugs like ketamine and testosterone. It also authorizes a new pilot program through the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services to reimburse certain cannabidiol, or CBD, treatments, including for cancer patients.
The move eases barriers to research and pharmaceutical development, but it does not legalize marijuana, does not change federal or state enforcement practices, and does not create legal retail access. For Virginia and Richmond, the announcement underscores a widening disconnect between federal policy signals and the state’s unresolved cannabis framework.
via RVA Magazine
Read more, see more: https://rvamag.com/culture/cannabis/what-federal-marijuana-rescheduling-really-means-for-richmond-and-virginia.html
It’s a EO… he has no idea what’s in it. He just signs whatever’s in front of him.
It's like he's an autopen
An autopen would have raped fewer people, so worse.
Fewer women and KIDS.
Need to make sure we specify KIDS so these damn PoS maga supporters can’t ignore it.
Fewer women, kids, and horses. Dont forget the horse...
And Bubba.
Bubba was a willing participant
Animals can’t consent
And couches.
They’re pretty inclusive with the raping, as it turns out
Autopen 2028!
Zing
No, that was the LAST GUY. Keep up.
The current guy signs with his pen, shows it off like he just won a golf tournament, and tells everyone how great the pen is, and no pen is better. He just made that one up a few minutes ago.
Get your own pen for only $159.99 at trumppen.com!
**ink sold separately
Drop-shipped from Temu
***Made by Bubba, Inc
“When only the best will do, make it a Bubba pen”
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Made in Venezuela
The Bubba Pen is…..great
Gonna need extra pens since we can only have three pencils!
And you, my guy, regularly suck on that guy’s ball sack.
I think the guy you replied to is speaking in jest.
So you’re telepathic? You only wrist others are thinking? Wow
Gaslight
Obstruct
Project < we are here
An auto sharpie.
Also does nothing at this point. It didn’t auto reschedule. Just a hope that the agencies that can actually do it do. It will take them years to figure it out.
He literally had a press conference when he signed it saying how it would help cancer patients and chronic pain sufferers and reduce the use on opiates for pain management.
Ask him again today...
I would normally be “orange man bad” but have to at least give some credit. I wish democrats were bold enough to do such a thing. Biden could have for 4 years.
But no this probably means nothing unfortunately and he has no idea what’s in it
“‘When Biden started this process, you saw the (Drug Enforcement Agency) really drag their feet and create problems for the conclusion of this project,’ Nicole Elliott, the director of California Department of Cannabis Control, who will be stepping down from the position at the end of the year. ‘It's great to see a Republican finish something a Democrat started. But at the end of the day, what it shows is this is really a bipartisan issue. The states are far beyond where the federal government's at and so it's good to see the federal government start to catch up.’”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-moved-to-reclassify-marijuana-now-trump-s-taking-it-over-the-finish-line/ar-AA1SD7so
Maybe you should get your facts straight before you shoot your mouth off and sound like an idiot. Biden fought for 4 years to make this happen. It was the DEA and the republicans that gummed up the works and delayed the process.
He could have done it without the DEA or republicans permission
It wasn't lack of boldness that kept Biden from rescheduling marijuana when he had the chance, it was the usual centrist Democrat cynical political calculus. When your party has a single issue that drives a lot of voters to the polls, like marijuana legalization or abortion, the very last thing you want to do is settle the issue for once and for all, because if you do that you subsequently lose those single-issue voters. It's why the Democrats "somehow" never managed to codify Roe v Wade into law and it's why every Democratic president "somehow" never managed to reschedule marijuana.
You know, the thing Trump just easily did with a stroke of his pen.
“‘When Biden started this process, you saw the (Drug Enforcement Agency) really drag their feet and create problems for the conclusion of this project,’ Nicole Elliott, the director of California Department of Cannabis Control”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-moved-to-reclassify-marijuana-now-trump-s-taking-it-over-the-finish-line/ar-AA1SD7so
How convenient.
No President can change the law by himself. Codifying abortion requires 60 votes in the Senate. The Democrats never had that under Biden and the Supreme Court would have just struck it down even if they did anyway.
Oh, look, more excuses for why Democrats never get anything done except giving money to the wealthy and doing whatever Israel wants. They had it under Obama. But please, let's hear more excuses. I'm all ears!
Well please explain exactly how he could have done it then.
Is it rescheduled though? This is a recommendation. It's hasn't happened yet.
Biden got the process started, it is coming to fruition now.
Just like a pardon, apparently
Could we sneak in a resignation letter?
He’s so clueless about what he’s signing that if you put a resignation letter in front of him he’d sign it. lol
Not yet, he is just getting started... To much good work left to be done.
He doesn't have to know, the people that are behind him, really pulling the strings and really putting the stuff forward are the ones that know what they're doing. They have a deliberate cruelty and insane belief that their way is the only way, and so have Trump's ear, and so have Trump pushing for them.
Oh ffs. You sound delusional
Your reasoning being?
Quiet piggy
None of this matters. EO is not law. Needs to go through congress and senate. The idea that we’re considering this as good just because it’s something we actually want is insane. Hold this criminal responsible for his pedophilic crimes in addition to the stuff he was convicted for
This is incorrect. The Controlled Substances Act empowers the executive branch to schedule, reschedule, or deschedule any drug through action at the DOJ (typically via the DEA head, but this authority is delegated by the Attorney General and therefore can be done by the same). The executive order itself does not reschedule it, but it does direct the DOJ to reschedule it.
These comments are weird because this is exactly what we wanted Biden to do.
Let's just learn to take the few good things that happen under this administration
Right. The amount of credit I give Trump for doing this one thing I think is good doesn't make up for the fact that I think he's a corrupt POS that has significantly damaged the U.S. in just about every conceivable way.
Basically. One decent thing after 10 questionable things isn’t winning, but I’ll take it. Even if it’s an EO…it’s still a better situation than doing nothing. Obviously I do think this should just be done through congress so it can’t be reversed so easily.
It doesn't matter if Congress does it or not, the Controlled Substances Act provides that the DOJ can always revise the scheduling of a drug... unless Congress specifically excludes a drug from the Controlled Substances Act, like alcohol is. If that's what you mean, then I agree.
He deserves no credit, Biden started it before the election.
Yes, but Biden's appointees were insubordinate prohibitionist assholes who refused to cooperate, dragged everything out, biased the proceedings to appear they were AGAINST the rule they were themselves proposing, and ultimately let the process stall out once Harris lost the election. Biden wasn't aggressive enough to really force them to action.
Trump is a criminal shitstain (and even saying that, I feel, may be unfair to criminal shitstains everywhere), but if the DEA will bow before anyone, they'll bow before a dictator wannabe, since authoritarianism is kinda their thing anyway. Biden wasn't that, so they thumbed their noses at him. I don't see them doing that to a piece of shit bully with more power than them.
I share your general sentiment, though, I really do. FDT
Do you seriously not understand that Joseph Robinette Biden did not run the federal government? Our country was being run by Antony Blinkin’s WestExecLLC - a corporation. Leaders of foreign nations knew and laughed at us for 4 years.
No one ever talks about this or about how Harris was foisted upon voters at the last minute without a vote to put her on the ticket. But orange man bad
Yes, Trump is actually a terrible person. Of course, Harris wasn't "foisted" upon you, though, since you clearly weren't going to vote for anyone but Trump anyway (do you really think people can't see right through your bullshit?). Aside from that, Republicans didn't have a primary, either, Trump was just the republican nominee... period.
But that's not a new thing. Political parties don't even have to have primary elections, and for a very long time they didn't. They can choose their nominee however they want.
Aside from that, let's not pretend you guys have any principles at all about anything. The republican party platform has literally turned into "we will do whatever Trump says." You're a bunch of spineless cucks that want a daddy dictator to tell you how to live and tell you your shit don't stink (as he mocks you in private and takes away everything from anyone who isn't wealthy).
This kind of unhinged rambling is exactly what I would expect from the average Reddit user who disagrees with someone else's views.
Yep. It's akin to finding a single M&M in the bowl of shit you're being forced to eat. Yeah everything else is shit but, okay, I'll grant you that is a single M&M.
Biden left that M&M.
There are a lot more than a few good things going on. Many possibly are incapable of understanding the enormous positive accomplishments already completed. United States citizens and most clear headed people around the world DO understand.
These comments are weird because that is exactly what Biden started to do. Just learn that the few good things that happen under this administration are not Trump’s ideas.
“‘When Biden started this process, you saw the (Drug Enforcement Agency) really drag their feet and create problems for the conclusion of this project,’ Nicole Elliott, the director of California Department of Cannabis Control”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-moved-to-reclassify-marijuana-now-trump-s-taking-it-over-the-finish-line/ar-AA1SD7so
But the EO can be immediately rescinded by the next president.
The EO simply tells DOJ what to do, it doesn't actually accomplish the "doing" part. So rescinding it would just undo the original order telling DOJ to act but would not rescind the actions taken by DOJ in response. In order to "rescind" the rescheduling itself, a new rescheduling process would have to occur.
It would be like ordering a cheeseburger at a restaurant, receiving your burger, paying for it, then coming back later and telling the manager your original order for the cheeseburger is rescinded. Well, sorry, that won't un-make the cheeseburger you ate and paid for. The analogy isn't perfect because cannabis COULD be placed back into Schedule I later. But you aren't going to un-make that cheeseburger, or undo rescheduling, simply by saying the original order you placed is now null and void. The proper response to rescinding either order would be "that's nice... [long pause]...who gives a fuck?"
Under normal circumstances I would agree with you but in this instance it doesn’t require an act of congress. Biden began the process, but the DEA dragged their feet. The DEA doesn’t want it rescheduled because of the impact it would have on their budget. This EO does nothing but shake the people who were asleep at the wheel and say “You know that thing that Biden wanted you to do? DO IT!”
It does matter because DEA is under the executive branch and handles enforcement.
E: And yes we should hold all the pedos and abusers accountable for their crimes. I didn’t want to seem like I was diagreeing on that point.
It matters because the DEA has the authority under the CSA to reschedule it. This executive order essentially tells Bondi (the DEA is in DOJ, which she heads, of course) to make sure it happens.
The DEA already started, and mostly completed this process. Edit: so yes it does kind of matter. But not really. It’s just directing them to do something that’s already been done
In October 2022, President Biden asked the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) and the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) to review how marijuana is scheduled under the federal Controlled Substances Act (CSA).
In August 2023, HHS recommended to DEA that marijuana be transferred from schedule I to schedule III, based on HHS’ scientific and medical evaluation. As part of that evaluation, HHS used a new, two-part inquiry to determine that marijuana has a “currently accepted medical use” under the CSA.
In April 2024, the Office of Legal Counsel, within the Department of Justice, issued an opinion concluding that the two-part test that HHS used is sufficient to establish that a drug has a “currently accepted medical use” under the CSA.
In May 2024, the Attorney General issued a proposed rule that, if finalized, would move marijuana from schedule I to schedule III. Numerous parties submitted requests for hearings, and in August 2024 DEA announced that it would hold a hearing on the proposal.
The hearing was scheduled to begin on January 21, 2025. But, on January 13, 2025, the administrative law judge for the hearing postponed it while an appeal by an involved party is resolved.”
It was in process, but the DEA under Biden slow walked the shit out of it hoping they wouldn't have to if Kamala lost. She did. So they did nothing further.
Now their orange fuhrer has given them orders to finish it.
I suspect the DEA will actually get it done this time for fear of being fired.
One thing I begrudgingly respect about Republicans is that they just do things. Democrats required 3 years of review before even making a decision.
Not sure if that’s really an accurate reading on this situation. This isn’t just a random thing that’s happening because Republicans “just do things”. It’s the response to the review that Biden ordered from the DEA and HHS three years ago. Trump isn’t just randomly doing this, he’s acting on the findings that came out of that three year process. That Biden initiated….
Not to mention the fact that apparently Republicans did need a three year review process as well. Trump has already been president once, he could’ve done it his first term. But he’ll only be finishing up what Democrats started.
Quiet, he doesn't know Biden initiated it.
You never know, this could potentially RESTART the entire process if he doesn’t actually want it done. But my bet is on him just taking credit for it.
Bruh the government is supposed to have checks and balances ????
Executive order is not action
Yeah the timing is convenient. He signed this at the same time as the release of the Epstein files. Yet another distraction scheme. As I work in the cannabis industry though, I’ll take this one. Don’t think for one second though that it will distract me from what he’s trying to distract us from. Lmao
This.
Don’t celebrate an obvious distraction from an evil pedophile.
I'm going to celebrate but inwardly. release the files
more or less, a distraction
He wants to give weed to pharma. There is nothing to celebrate in that.
Low int comment.
Rescheduling doesn’t “give weed to pharma.” It just acknowledges medical use and changes how it’s regulated. Cannabis stays legal at the state level, and no one is banning flower or handing the plant to drug companies.
Except he/they actively going after delta, which is how most Virginians/most people in grey legality states get their weed.
Probably to do the same shit where he swoops in after causing the problem, and then once again says “oh I saved you all from making it illegal”, when it was he and his cronies who was the issue.
Also the same thing with vapes at the moment with him. But he may actually bow to big tobacco finally with that one, although he used it as a political stunt last time. Remains to be seen shortly. But all the vape shops would go out of business regardless, if either delta-8/9 OR non-big tobacco allowed vapes are actually effectively banned, as planned.
This is not a day for Virginians to celebrate.
"this" to an absolutely wrong comment, this site is so stupid sometimes
You are obviously referring to barrack Hussein Obama. Review the FBI website and the section regarding adults preying on children and the code words and symbols delineating each classification. Then recall Obama having a party at the WH where he admitted to having $40,000 worth of pizza and hot dogs flown in from Chicago. Tip of the iceberg.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-65000-hot-dogs/
Imagine being on wrong on every word in a paragraph
Where have you been this year?
Felon rules by EO.
Congress hides.
Scrotus Calvinballs reasoning to make felon win.
But keep in mind, the most punitive form of laws apply to us, the poors. So, I wouldn't be lighting up in my local law enforcement branch anytime soon.
I am waiting for the grift flowing from it. Which billionaire just bought a million acres of weed farmland?
I'm not sure where you live but in VAB you can smell weed all the time. When we went to point break last summer everyone was smoking in front of the police. No one cares.
Ok? If it’s still illegal, many harmless weed smokers can be charged for it. Thats like most beach towns and cities, people smoke weed… they shouldn’t go to jail for it
The cops actually do care, if if helps their arrest quotas.
Also, VAB isn’t exactly known as the pinnacle of VA. Saying as someone who actually enjoys VAB and its unique side of VA. And your anecdotes don’t matter, especially now that VA has made weed (including delta variants) illegal
What are you talking about, recreational weed is allowed in VA. You're allowed to possess and grow your own just not buy it. Yes they are cracking down on vape shops but that's a different issue. Once the new administration takes over hopefully that will change.
I also never said anything about VAB being a pinnacle, it's just my city.
The scheduling of drugs is not controlled by Congress. It's controlled by the dea whish falls under the president. Hate trump all you want but do so with truth
r/unexpectedCalvinandHobbes
They’re making Delta weed illegal, which is how most people get their weed these days. And banning flavored vapes, except for those approved/bought by big tobacco companies. So. Them most likely
They can start very important studies finally, one year clinical trials. So maybe reconsider.
Haters gotta hate. Sour grapes, ehh?
The lies about our current President will never stop being pushed out for the uninformed to willingly chug like nickel beer night. He has been cleared of all charges and Jack Smith is testifying before the appropriate committee. Jack Smith is looking disheveled and sloppy. Years ago Julian Assange was asked why wiki did not include dirt on President Trump. Assange replied “ because there isn’t any “. It stands to reason any and all dirt on DJT would have been seized upon and disseminated during the impeachment process(es). Some day the old picture of Chuck Shumer mouth kissing a young (under 12) black girl will be like new front page news. The day is coming. It’s coming fast.
Dude’s a convicted felon. Under what rock have you been hiding?
This is what I predict will come from all of this:
We will see widespread pharmaceutical lobbying to make any raw forms of cannabis or hemp illegal to possess or manufacture at home. They will crack down on anyone possessing, producing or distributing raw flower. There is money to be made in a pharmaceutical cannabis program but if one can easily obtain this from a grow tent or backyard, why bother going thru all the hoops of a prescription? I am not a lawyer but I could see it argued in court that raw flower will be treated like a precursor to the "socially acceptable" products that will be pushed as "better" by these companies. Nobody on a consumer level will feel like they have won anything unless they are of considerable financial wealth. These medications WILL be pricey. Already in Virginia, companies like Rise hold consumers over a barrel for small amounts of cannabis products. People who are of low financial status already struggle to afford this medicine legally. This is going to make cannabis products a rich mans prescription.
Rescheduling has never been in the interests of a common person whether for medicine or for recreation. It is strictly to line the pockets of the pharmaceutical industry and to keep otherwise cheaply produced medicine out of the hands of common people. Do you think that the legal moves made recently just around hemp are coincidence? They are sealing off any avenue to obtain cannabis, hemp or derived products other than thru a prescription. This is going to make dispensaries as we know them disappear. This is strictly to appease the greedy companies that have long been known to finance political parties which I have no doubt Trump has taken more than a few "donations" from.
There’s a problem with your theory…you can’t patent a plant. That’s why big pharma is so terrified of us. (I work in the cannabis industry)
Nah...research will create new refined medicines using cannabis. Isolating compounds (there are A LOT of them) to create new things or concentrations of proven beneficial cannabanoids. Sure, there will be patents and such, but hey, that's capitalism. Meanwhile flower will remain untouched, as it can produce huge tax windfalls. This is just a baby step, but it moves towards federal legalization, which we all want. Some Republicans are already fighting DJT on this because they are stuck in their puritanical ways. They'll die off soon enough. Big Alcohol is probably putting pressure on them also. This is a very good thing. I see no downsides and wonder why so many people are so negative about it.
I can only hope you are correct but that seems quite optimistic and forgiving of an industry known for greed and profit first. Obviously advances will be made in the science of cannabis from a rescheduling. However, assuming good will from this industry is naive. Flower will not remain untouched and in the past few weeks quite literally has been stifled and re criminalized to a certain extent with the legislation brought against hemp flower and other novel breeds of cannabis. The reason people do not see this as beneficial is because it only actually benefits a small percentage of people. Like you said, capitalism is at hand here and since when does capitalism serve anyone other than those at the top?
Nah, people could distill their own liquor, grow their own produce, etc. we don’t because we are lazy.
Lobbies don’t need to make it illegal when they can just produce it cheap enough and have a high enough profit margin to make it a no brainer to just buy retail.
Then you horizontally consolidate the companies that produce the means to grow and make that ish even more expensive.
You assume laziness is the primary factor in all of this when it is a lack of resources and financial capability. People who cannot grow their own food often do not due to not having the time or space. Maybe the privileged individuals with home ownership, a well paying job, and the property to do so could be called lazy for not investing in themselves via producing their own food and medicine. But saying whole cloth that is simply laziness not only sounds incredibly out of touch but also extremely privileged. I appreciate your optimism but you clearly don't have a real grasp on how lobbying works and what it involves. Pharmaceutical companies would absolutely delight in seeing large scale grow operations shut down so that they can have full control of the production process. It is the exact situation you see with morphine and poppies as controlled substances. The largest poppy fields in the world are surrounded by armed guards, electric fences and high security all bought and paid for by the pharmaceutical industry. Society has known how to make medicine from both marijuana and poppies for centuries. It is only in the last 100 years that control under the guise of safety and protection of society that we have lost this ability to produce things for ourselves, lazy or not.
Now scientists and universities can study … but he cancelled all research grants and there is no money left for scientists.
Doesn’t matter too much for VA until it’s fully legal and de-scheduled. Lots of Feds in the area who can’t go anywhere near controlled substances, and even after this EO that’s still the case here. See also: folks with clearances.
I don't think that's quite true, it's the same scheduling as Tylenol-codeine which I actually took recentish... As part of a prescription relating to surgery.
Still doesn't change anything recreational, but it is a change if the relevant agencies actually comply this time.
With a prescription is the key. I would be shocked if the assorted agencies respected medical scrips.
Take off the tin foil hat
Not true at all. Adderall is Schedule 2 and I know lots of Feds on it.
With a prescription. That's the key.
It's not hard to get a prescription to schedule III drugs.
Take off the tin foil hat
Nothing, this does nothing. The pharmaceutical companies can now do research. The pharmaceutical industry can reap more profits. For regular people? Nothing.
A disabled veteran can get a script from a doctor for chronic pain and have it covered by insurance. That's what Schedule III means.
Does schedule III still come with gun ownership restrictions?
If it were prescribed, I imagine not. If not prescribed it probably still would. IIRC a scheduled prescription does not prohibit ownership, just use while under the influence.
Even with the prescription, it would still be illegal. To change it, the fed. gov. would need to revise ATF form 4473 to accommodate the EO passed today.
However, we should expect a decision in United States v. Hemani sometime next year. Depending on how the court rules, those current restrictions could be found unconstitutional. (I don't have hope though with this Court).
Wasn't that added downstream of the scheduling? But I see what you're saying that the legislation is separate.
Executive branch could order to stop enforcement because of the rescheduling, without altering the law IIRC.
I think you’re right.
Until it is federally legal, yes
No guarantee insurance covers it at all.
I’m fairly certain there is a difference in the charge for having a schedule I and schedule III drug at the federal level.
This allows marijuana companies access to the banking industry. Expect them to start banking, picking up debt, and advertising everywhere for new users. It’s a bigger change than you think.
Wrong. It distracts people from continuing to ask about the Epstein files.
Bro people are asking every day stfu people like you are so weird
Fr these types of people are clowns
Just a reminder.. Anything like this until The Epstein Files release deadline on Friday is just a smokescreen until proven otherwise.
"The order reclassifies marijuana from Schedule I, alongside heroin, to Schedule III" is not great phrasing. On first read that sounds like he also rescheduled heroin, which would be MAJOR news.
IMO schedule 1 shouldn’t exist. It completely hinders research of any drug in that category and creates a situation where the DEA decides if something has medical value
Holy shit. He did something... good? Wonder what the catch is.
Dropped audio of him strong arming Georgia to find or steal votes.
Dropped more photos from Epstein.
Failing economy from Tariffs and Immigration choices.
Dont forget war mongering in Venezuela
Ahem, don't you mean Trumpistan?
Nah, I mean, Jr or someone is getting into distribution, right?
Oh yeah, delay rescheduling till your donors have set up their LLCs and stock options.
There ya go
The catch is it's a half measure.
But a step in the right direction.
Did it the same day HHS introduced their intent to defacto ban trans healthcare for trans kids.
Two good things in one day!
Supporting the governments attacks against established evidence based medical care is gross.
Mutilating the genitals of someone who isn't old enough to consent to something as minor as a tattoo is gross. Your "evidence based medical care" is politically driven nonsense.
That's a misrepresentation of healthcare for trans kids. Like you frame it in the most weirdo way. Seek help.
The fact that you are mutilating a child's genitals or the fact that they aren't old enough to consent? If you think "help" is chopping off healthy penises and breasts, I will not be seeking it.
There you go being weird again.
I'm guessing this will become a win for pharma. I also fear it may be a slippery slope toward home growers and dispensaries being suppressed or criminalized somehow.
Buddy, this bill started in the Biden era
Simple win he doesn’t really give a shit about to distract from Epstein files, eroding democracy via strong arm politics, and his SAD and FAILING economic policies.
Epstein files tomorrow
It’s an EO. It doesn’t matter as it’s not law
It does matter here because under the Controlled Substances Act, the executive branch has the authority to schedule, reschedule, and deschedule drugs. This EO doesn't, itself, reclassify cannabis, but it tells Bondi at the DOJ to make sure it gets done. That is the proper procedure for the executive branch to follow in accordance with the law.
So while Trump is a criminal POS, this order is legal and will result in a change in the legal status of cannabis.
Doesn't change my opinion of him one bit, though, even if i personally think this step is LOOOOONG overdue.
It doesn’t Matter Cdl drivers can’t smoke it
🙌
It’s a step in the right direction for legalization, no? Also, can’t Spanberger allow us to vote on legalizing cannabis once she’s in office?
Doesn't really do much for the average person in our state as far as I can tell. It just makes kt legal for more labs and the like to experiment with it.
A half step in the correct direction. At least circumstances aren't leading the demented trust fund baby pedo to go in the WRONG direction. Earlier at work, I briefly heard mention of trump taking action on marijuana policy without further context and I was worried he would be cracking down on it. It would have been very disappointing for Virginians considering the potential positive state-level movement on the topic as a result of the recent election. Still, we shouldn't let this appease us. As others have said, this needs to be codified beyond an executive order.
It's not rescheduled though.
Even a blind clock finds a nut twice a day
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
I’m already buying weed and getting it delivered to my house who gives a damn
Next week he'll announce that the taxes on marijuana will eliminate income taxes. And Fox will talk about why Biden didn't do it earlier.
Even a broken shitclock is right whenever the fuck…or whatever Lahey said
So what I’m hearing is that delta9-THC (produced from heating naturally occurring and non-psychoactive THCA) is a schedule 1 substance.
This puts delta9-THC (and not actual cannabis flower which contains basically zero delta9-THC) in the same category as heroin (a mu-opioid agonist with obvious medical applications) and LSD (which has one of the lowest potentials for abuse among psychoactive substances).
Now we’re making delta9-THC a schedule 3 substance, which puts it in the same category as tylenol-codeine cough syrup (basically lean except they swapped non-addictive promethazine for non-addictive acetaminophen [shout-out autism fear mongering] and kept the heroin-like mu-opioid agonist codeine) and ketamine (mu-opioid agonist and NMDA antagonist that statistically correlates to lower rates of psychological addiction).
This skips past schedule 2 drugs like amphetamine (which has been stereotyped to hell, not to downplay its potential for psychological addiction) and fentanyl (yet another mu-opioid agonist, but with a higher potency than heroin).
This is also to the background of “hemp flower containing <0.5% delta9-THC and +30% THCA”, which is quite literally all cannabis flower, being sold recreationally in prominent storefronts.
We also can’t forget about the literal kratom (leaf that contains mu-opioid agonists) flags posted outside every head shop, and the recreational sale of tianeptine (mu-opioid agonist), phenibut (GABAergic, similar to benzodiazepines or barbiturates), nicotine (acts directly on reward and future-craving systems), etc.
Ya know what? I’m starting to think the DEA doesn’t actually serve a real purpose beyond perpetuating the “war on drugs”. Come to think of it, now that we’re decades deep; how’s that “war” been going?
So….still not legal. Another half ass, fuck up.
Is the following summary correct? - It’s the type of substance not the substance itself that the federal law governs. So if marijuana is now schedule III, then the law for schedule III substances applies. Therefore, marijuana is not “legalized”. Rather it is legal to use with a physician’s prescription in the eyes of the federal government.
Wake me up when we no longer have to pass drug tests for employment.
So resolve the framework, VA legislature people. Let's go!
He could cure cancer and bring world peace and libs would still be mad. TDS is a real thing. Rob Reiner may have had it but his comments were uncalled for. Reiners said a lot about Trump too, so dead or not, he deserved it.
Does this mean those jailed when it was classified as schedule one will be released? They should be!
It's either 100% de-scheduled or I really don't want to hear about it.
It's a step but it needs to be de-scheduled completely
All medicine has a schedule.
All OTC medications (and the majority of prescription-only) are unscheduled. They are subject to regulations as to quality, but they aren't schedule I-V. It's often an "all squares (scheduled drugs) are rectangles (prescription-only drugs) but not all rectangles are squares" situation. Eg: zolfran is the a upper GI version of Immodium, but you need a prescription for the former as antiemetic but can buy the anti-diarrhea version OTC, and neither are a scheduled medication.
It's a distraction to build goodwill before the epsteins files release due date tomorrow. Also, this was already started by the Biden admin last year.
Jesus this cesspool will complain about anything.
I will not celebrate another illegal act simply because I may benefit. This should have been done properly.
This is proper. This EO doesn't reschedule anything, but it DOES tell the attorney general to see to it that the rescheduling happens. That is a legal process in accordance with the Controlled Substances Act.
I despise Trump, but this is one action that is actually legal and objectively good. You know what they say about broken clocks...
What is the win here? This EO doesn’t do anything for people, it may offer some tax relief for businesses but it’s not legal.
It doesn't legalize any particular product, that's correct. But just getting the federal government to recognize what has been known for decades is a win in and of itself, even if that win is more philosophical than anything.
They should deschedule it, but hey, recognizing reality is a good thing, even though this administration actively avoids recognizing reality in every other situation.
As for tax breaks... I think it's a good thing, but it's not the biggest thing in the world to me (I'll bet the industry will love it, though, lol).
It doesn’t feel like a recognition of reality tho it’s just another smoke screen to detract from current events. They will point to this in up coming midterms to try and claim some victory and the average American will think they actually did something.
It’s just more manipulation, at least thats how it feels to me.
The main thing is that if/when it gets moved to class 3 it makes medical marijuana completely legal to prescribe as it would no longer be in conflict with federal law. Then there is also the whole research viability aspect as well. I would guess that it would probably make businesses stop screening for weed when drug testing as there would be valid legal reasons why somebody would be having marijuana in their system. It's a step in the right direction but ultimately it should be treated like Tobacco and Alcohol.
My suspicion is that the EO is a stunt to boost popularity but the DOJ gets to play bad guy by not changing the scheduling.
It's a step forward, id prefer deschedule over reschedule.... But it's a step forward.
So many haters, haters gotta hate.
The only one using auto pen was Joe Biden and Joe Biden didn’t do anything for marijuana as a matter of fact he is a big opponent against it for most of his political career
Pot makes ya stupid and slow
This is a terrible plan which puts sales in the hands of pharma.
To clarify, I live in VA so it’s already legal and I have all I want. What this would do is put weed smack in the middle of prescribed medication. Pharma doesn’t want to deal with flower, they want patented chemical substitutes. Think this one through.