So I just bought some SC Red Line Liquid (guava raspberry), tried it and was immediately disappointed by the menthol taste it has. I don't like ice-flavors, so I try to avoid them. What's the point in putting cooling agents in non-ice flavors? I will not buy that brand again. If there's cooling agent in your vape juice, please call it ice, otherwise leave the cooling agent out. Germany, btw.

And no one at vape shops has any idea if they have cooling too. Ive asked so many times to confirm there's no cooling whatsoever and they even say they've tried it and there's no ice and there is ALWAYS ice Even tobacco flavours are now adding ice to everything but not disclosing They do it to hide the flavour of horrible cheap eliquids. I don't bother anymore trying anything new I stick to tropical mango and creamy tobacco vuse pods cus guaranteed no ice!!
Short version: I feel you bro.
I think they add it for a throat hit. That's what the disposables seem to be doing
That may be, but then they should advertise it as ice, menthol, etc. It sometimes overpowers the actual flavor, which is just dumb.
It's kinda braindead tbh. I didn't see any vuse when I was there, but I'll try to get the tropical mango, that sounds good. I had both strawberry and blueberry from vuse a few years ago and those flavors were spot on.
The blueberry has ice now and there's two strawberry's one has ice and garden strawberry doesn't.
Good to know, thanks. I will avoid them, except the garden strawberry, maybe that'll be decent.
I also got two bottles of Vampire Vape and they have no mention of 'cooling agent'. Have you tried those before?
The strawberry kiwi has no ice too!
Actually I have only tried the Heisenberg which has cooling (but does say so) didn't like it. But I recently bought the pineapple pawpaw which the customer service agent at vampire vape guaranteed me it has no ice so I'll see soon if that's true Which flavours did you get? Check for ws23 in the ingredients
I have strawberry burst and strawberry kiwi. The burst has some sort of cooling agent as far as I can tell, but it's not listed in the ingredients. I will try the kiwi one in a new coil here in a little while.
Fingers crossed But we shouldn't have to waste money on all these liquids. They should just disclose if it has ice. Its so infuriating. Why is it a big secret. ðŸ˜
It's most likely some corporate dumb reason, like cheaper to produce than without cooling crap. Non-ice flavor should not have any cooling in them. And if they do, it should be clearly labelled as such.
Who even buys non-ice flavors, but likes/wants the cooling? It's pure stupidity imo.
Also how is 1k€/liter a fair price? Juice head is at 250$/liter, which is already more expensive than it should be imo.
Agreed! If you want ice you'll buy ice so why slip in ice when it's not wanted Don't get me started on the pricing I have actually successfully gotten refunds from companies (like Jucce Bar) for selling liquids and not disclosing the ice. More people need to bring them up on this
Yeah, I already sent an email to flavourtec about their SC red line stuff. And I might send one to vampire vape as well, the strawberry kiwi doesn't have cooling, but it just tastes bad, not at all like juice head's strawberry kiwi, very disappointing...
That's most likely a country specific issue. At the store I work we have more than a thousand different products both premixed liquids, one shots, snv and I know every single one that has ice and/or menthol as well as the levels of ice they have (cooling agents' strength is subjective but I can make an educated estimate)
Most liquids will say ice, sherbet, frozen etc. on the label but others won't. For SnV we are allowed to open a bottle per flavor so that we can give it to customers to smell and we can taste a drop, that way you can tell immediately if something has ice and how much. We don't have premixed specific liquids (meaning every premixed 10ml liquid we have we also have the shortfill version of it so we can test it)
But yeah, it's a thing that companies should list. And specifically what kind of cooling agent was used. Because ws-23 is flavorless but menthol isn't. That's information I need to know both as a consumer and as a seller.
Cheap e liquids ingredient. They give some body to the liquid.