The poverty rate on reserves has been cut in half in the last 30 years. The post secondary education attainment rate is increasing every year. There are results, they just don't write those stories in rebel news, the Fraser Institute, or the Dorchester Review.
Yeah like a number. You measure numbers. And you put money into things for an outcome which is a goal, likely a number.... Geez... This is why this will never work. Keep burning $$
When people aren't less than in systems and progress.
Measure it? I don't know, rates of poverty, education,.employment, incarceration, unnecessary death, etc.
There's been very little reconciliation effort by Canada and Canadians until the last few years. Getting sued and forced to recognize rights isn't reconciliation.
Tina Fontaine was found dead in a river wrapped and weighted and the first news story about her was that she had drugs and alcohol in her system. The Moncton shooters first story talked about how nice they were. Guess which group each of these people belonged to?
What would happen if a premier just came out and said that reconciliation was successfully completed? Start lowering the taxpayer payments over some years.
Nobody should take Rustad seriously. He’s a full blown clown. Remember when he was telling a bunch of Covid deniers that the UN is going to force their children to eat bugs???!
Pepperidge farm remembers!
The United Nations, particularly its Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO), strongly advocates for increased insect consumption (entomophagy) as a sustainable, nutritious, and environmentally friendly solution to global food security, highlighting their high protein content, efficiency in feed conversion, and lower environmental impact compared to traditional livestock. They see insects as a vital protein source for growing populations, noting that billions already eat them, and aim to boost acceptance in Western diets for better nutrition and reduced pollution.
Of this I am aware. Only a disingenuous snake oil peddling carnival barker populist fruitloop could spin this into a conspiracy theory about forcing kids to eat bugs.
Agreed but still a lot of this is what we want to see but we have no idea how to get there. Do we still have reservations all throughout bc with no industry? Do we train for new ideas within the First Nations or hire outside? How about start by bringing industry to BC and creating jobs!
Id invest in BC if property values collapsed. Probably only way to afford it. There's plenty of industries that would benefit from lower land prices. Real estate is saturated in BC and frankly- non productive resources arent really what produces value for an economy (long term) - manufacturing and tourism does. The land dispute refocuses the economy, it doesn't destroy it.
We cannot shrink the economy and at the same time give up massive chunks of it. This current path will create multigenerariotional racial conflict...it is just too hard for too many people right now.
Problem is FN will always be a child of the state, always live off the handouts of society as written in law. The entire existence of FN, be it good or bad, is built on racism. This will always fail when the core is rotten with race based policies. This is a failed experiment thick with corruption all with the romantic idea that people are able to live a stone age lifestyle in the 21 century on a plant with 9.6 billion people on it.
How about we discuss ending all reconciliation payment sall together . No more land, no more money. We're all Canadians now and that's a fact. This has proven to not help them so why continue to do this.
I've been to many reserves over the last two decades and dam near all of the are the same and aren't getting better. Not only that I'm over this two teir society of getting so much. It needs to stop, they don't deserve the land that was taken from them unless they can take it by force, which they can't. Our government is bending over backwards for these people and it should stop.
Some places are not improving, others are improving significantly, but overall things are changing for the better in more than not.
There are 635 bands across Canada and over 3,000 reserves with over 1,000 inhabited year round.
How many different ones, roughly, have you been to to make this assessment?
Also, are they all in the prairies or under Numbered Treaty areas?
This is important, because if you've been to 100 different reserves, you've only been to 10% of all the inhabited reserves in Canada. If you've only been to Numbered Treaty or prairie reserves, you've possibly been to the ones with some of the highest poverty, addiction, and unemployment stats of all reserves across Canada. So for you, yes it looks like nothing is changing, but that misses out on hundreds of bands, and hundreds of reserves and almost 1,000,000 people.
Aaron Pete here is speaking into the top of a side-address microphone.........
No plan, billions spent. No results. More complaining. It's an industry at this point.
The poverty rate on reserves has been cut in half in the last 30 years. The post secondary education attainment rate is increasing every year. There are results, they just don't write those stories in rebel news, the Fraser Institute, or the Dorchester Review.
So what's the goal of reconciliation and how do you measure it? What shows measurable progress?
Wait a minute before zooming out and address what he said that contradicted what you said.
Does any of what he said constitute results?
Or do you maintain there have been no results?
These discussions are complex and the tortoise is faster than the hare here.
Nothing measurable in your reply
Are these measurable?
What's the goal? That's what you measure against.
Like a number for each of those? The goal is as low or high as possible, obviously? I guess you don't answer questions
Yeah like a number. You measure numbers. And you put money into things for an outcome which is a goal, likely a number.... Geez... This is why this will never work. Keep burning $$
What number would you pick for the poverty rate on reserves? I think it's a stupid question as the number should be zero.
When people aren't less than in systems and progress.
Measure it? I don't know, rates of poverty, education,.employment, incarceration, unnecessary death, etc.
There's been very little reconciliation effort by Canada and Canadians until the last few years. Getting sued and forced to recognize rights isn't reconciliation.
Tina Fontaine was found dead in a river wrapped and weighted and the first news story about her was that she had drugs and alcohol in her system. The Moncton shooters first story talked about how nice they were. Guess which group each of these people belonged to?
What would happen if a premier just came out and said that reconciliation was successfully completed? Start lowering the taxpayer payments over some years.
Nothing, because it’s federal.
In BC. You mean like cancelling existing agreements?
Lawsuits that BC would lose and rewards in the tens of billions.
This guy is not the leader of the conservatives anymore, he resigned Dec 5. The new interim leader is Trevor Halford.
Nobody should take Rustad seriously. He’s a full blown clown. Remember when he was telling a bunch of Covid deniers that the UN is going to force their children to eat bugs???! Pepperidge farm remembers!
The United Nations, particularly its Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO), strongly advocates for increased insect consumption (entomophagy) as a sustainable, nutritious, and environmentally friendly solution to global food security, highlighting their high protein content, efficiency in feed conversion, and lower environmental impact compared to traditional livestock. They see insects as a vital protein source for growing populations, noting that billions already eat them, and aim to boost acceptance in Western diets for better nutrition and reduced pollution.
Of this I am aware. Only a disingenuous snake oil peddling carnival barker populist fruitloop could spin this into a conspiracy theory about forcing kids to eat bugs.
Rustad is irrelevant
Agreed but still a lot of this is what we want to see but we have no idea how to get there. Do we still have reservations all throughout bc with no industry? Do we train for new ideas within the First Nations or hire outside? How about start by bringing industry to BC and creating jobs!
Id invest in BC if property values collapsed. Probably only way to afford it. There's plenty of industries that would benefit from lower land prices. Real estate is saturated in BC and frankly- non productive resources arent really what produces value for an economy (long term) - manufacturing and tourism does. The land dispute refocuses the economy, it doesn't destroy it.
We cannot shrink the economy and at the same time give up massive chunks of it. This current path will create multigenerariotional racial conflict...it is just too hard for too many people right now.
Problem is FN will always be a child of the state, always live off the handouts of society as written in law. The entire existence of FN, be it good or bad, is built on racism. This will always fail when the core is rotten with race based policies. This is a failed experiment thick with corruption all with the romantic idea that people are able to live a stone age lifestyle in the 21 century on a plant with 9.6 billion people on it.
Pretty sure I'm on team 'Keep my house'. Born here, parents born here, grandparents born here. WTF
How about we discuss ending all reconciliation payment sall together . No more land, no more money. We're all Canadians now and that's a fact. This has proven to not help them so why continue to do this.
How has it proven to not help them?
The poverty rate on reserves has been cut in half in the last 30 years.
I've been to many reserves over the last two decades and dam near all of the are the same and aren't getting better. Not only that I'm over this two teir society of getting so much. It needs to stop, they don't deserve the land that was taken from them unless they can take it by force, which they can't. Our government is bending over backwards for these people and it should stop.
Some places are not improving, others are improving significantly, but overall things are changing for the better in more than not.
There are 635 bands across Canada and over 3,000 reserves with over 1,000 inhabited year round.
How many different ones, roughly, have you been to to make this assessment?
Also, are they all in the prairies or under Numbered Treaty areas?
This is important, because if you've been to 100 different reserves, you've only been to 10% of all the inhabited reserves in Canada. If you've only been to Numbered Treaty or prairie reserves, you've possibly been to the ones with some of the highest poverty, addiction, and unemployment stats of all reserves across Canada. So for you, yes it looks like nothing is changing, but that misses out on hundreds of bands, and hundreds of reserves and almost 1,000,000 people.