I’ve dealt with the Saskatchewan reserves, all of them in fact. A bit of an authority on it with experience, while you’re just spitting out something someone told you about at some point lmao
Back when I worked IT, one of our local bands had an election. The next day no computer in their office would start because all of the hard drives were stolen. Nothing ever happened from that
635 Indian act bands in Canada, you have an anecdote, that doesn't prove anything, for 0.16% of bands. We could write all of these down and still come up with no significant number of bands, especially over time, to prove that corruption affects even half of the bands in Canada.
This is what I'm talking about, even in small towns there are people saying it's all corruption and cronyism with no proof and nobody gets charged or even fired.
It's just not a fact that a significant amount of Indian act bands have a corruption problem.
Is there corruption innsome bands, yes. Yes. YES, But it's not all, it's not even most, or many, or some, it's a few.
Well, FSIN isn't an Indian act band, so while I'm not defending anyone, but especially not that corrupt thing, on was asked for their info. That's why this forensic audit happened because there was strong evidence of wrong doing.
The comment was made that there's no reporting, there is, I linked it. Then they asked about fsin and I know about the recent forensic audit become of their wrongdoings so I shared it.
My case is that there is far more reporting in these and other documents that aren't public than Canadians know about.
It's not a flex, it's a point. As regular citizens we don't get to see the books for any federal grant funding past these types of documents, so if you want more access from Indian act bands then go get it from the other 20+ billion in external spending first.
The corruption trope is exaggerated, there are 625 bands in Canada, and if you could name 50 corrupt I was you would have less than 10% of the total. It's an ongoing list of anecdotes without proof, or a random band here and there over years with problems.
FNs don't each get millions of dollars, that money goes to the Ind ian act bands to pay for programs, services, administration, education, healthcare, and social services. Also, that billions number people keep saying also includes 2 federal departments with over 8,000 staff.
Poverty isn't something you can buy your way out of. In dians weren't people until 1951, it's not been a long time from being in abject poverty, including not being able leave reserves, buy land, or go to university. That's just 2 generations of being "real Canadians" compared to everyone else.
Exactly this the fn have literally earned nothing. Other than living in stone aged communities a few hundred years ago before being taken over. We that act wrong, yes. Is there other corruption yes, did they deserve millions ever few years? No. Should I a man of British decent demand money from the Vikings, more Scandinavians for the pillaging and rape they did? Or perhaps I should go after the Italians for what the romans did to England.
All corruption is bad and SHOULD be investigated, but using the guise of guilt to flease money from people who checks notes were fleeing corruption themselves is worse and easily fixed by making them realise that are not special we all have been screwed in the past
I dont know where you get off saying I don't care where my tax money goes to other than FN bands. I dont want my money going to Isreal eitherOr Bombardier Its not like we have to choose when asking for transparency, first them and then another
Ofcourse they are. I dint even get fillings covered thatre anything except silver lmao obviously every person isn't getting hundreds of 1000's of dollars
Neither just wondering how sad your life is that you are just another bullsh1t "trust me bro" liar
Sure your imaginary friends received a ton of cash when no one else did
Sure - you can prove that of course
Sure - when the fairytale 90k cheque comes there will be no proof of that that will be shared
Funny how NO ONE has presented/posted any stubs
In the reservations the $ goes to the Chief and they alone disperses it
But sure, apparently your buddies managed to receive checks from the Gov who doesnt send any!
Yeah - I TOTALLY believe you
you are so unhinged man and seriously need to get a life or go out side at least. ontario first nations people have been receiving cheques for a long time, its been in the local news multiple times
I live in Kenora, Ont. Not to far from TBay in the grand scheme of things and yes I know people who have received 100’s of thousands in “settlement” payments from the feds. Heck there is a Dodge Charger locally that has the vanity plate ‘PAYOUT2’. This happens.
Nice, sounds like we just solved most homeless, drug addiction, alcoholism and violent crime. Now that every person has more than enough money to last them a few years, we shouldn't have all those problems in that community anymore.
I live in Huron Robinson Treaty territory in Ontario. Successive fed governments refused to update or adjust the $4 per person payment to band members since 1850, despite the wealth being taken from treaty land.
That deficit was just addressed, and the arrogance and ignorance of our forebears cost all Canadians $10 billion. Each band member on the reserve closest to me got $100k payments. And that was the first payment. And yes, there is division among the bands and members about how much should be spent on individual members and how much should be invested.
$10 billion when there was a treaty. The Feds and BC didn’t even bother to go that far in your province.
Take a walk down Robson and look at the wealth on display. FNs fighting back and winning is good for workers in this country.
It’s not an experiment, it’s their land, and what became Canada decided to negotiate with the indigenous peoples on a nation to nation basis for contractual land use thru treaties. There are lots of areas that weren’t covered by treaty, and BC almost in its entirety wasn’t. That’s the problem right now, successive governments, federal, colonial and provincial all decided it was too troublesome to bother to negotiate treaties w the FNs of BC.
Are you aware of the cost? However no society is stagnant and still living a Stone Age lifestyle. Also it forces people to believe a cultural religious system and identity. I’m atheist and know it’s all fake. We have 9.5 ish billion people on the planet and we’re just going to let the world suffer because of a selfishness displayed be 2.6% of Canadians? Indigenous if a lie, humans evolved from and out of Africa. Since when did anyone tell any band they can’t harvest or believe whatever arcane nonsense? And this entire problem revolves around racism. Unless you can get the world to depopulate it’s time we all realize the population is growing and we need everything for survival. It’s a failed experiment just as much as billionaires are a failure of society.
The settlement incorporates compensation for the 173 years that Canada has failed to share profits from nickel, copper, uranium, lumber and fish. According to the treaty, the HRT FNs were to get a portion of the profits gained from their lands. The $4 annuity hasn’t been raised since 1875 — despite the clause in the treaty that ties the value of the annuity to the expansion of resource development in the region.
The reason most people don't want to live anywhere near a reservation is exactly why they need to go. Just make us all Canadian already. End the cycle.
That's right, the people at the top get rich and scam everyone else. They sue "one behalf" of others then give them little to nothing and keep the difference. This whole thing needs to stop. The other point is when individuals do get hundreds of thousands of dollars, that money almost immediately makes its way to rich people because giving financially illiterate people money just means they'll lose it.
Federal grant transfers aren't reparations or treaty obligations, they're a result of Canada having a fiduciary duty to Indians and lands reserved for Indians.
So, no, this Indian act band will still be getting federal grant transfers to run their programs and services.
Based on Woke Far Left University Dogma, that won’t be anytime soon. Just as they are ‘useful idi*ts’ for Islamists, they unintentionally work similarly for the Far Right.
Sovereignty implies a level of control and jurisdiction, Indian act bands are highly regulated on what they can do with their grant money, on Federal Crown land. Provincial Crown Land is what most of the provinces are it's under provincial jurisdiction.
Yes, thank you. But it's easier to say this to people and explain when there are questions then to explain the various pieces or point them to RP1763, the Constitution or Guerin right from the start. Especially when talking, potentially, to people who don't even know the very basics of Canada's relationship to Aboriginal people.
As far as I'm aware there is no one thing that created the fiduciary duty it's several things together. It's one place I have had trouble putting together a copy pasta to share about without getting into the weeds really fast.
That’s like saying “no more healthcare or pensions” when the government has to pay back improperly collected taxes; or has to pay veterans for denying them benefits; or has to pay a homeowner for taking their property. For the most part (with a few exceptions) the various programs paid to status Indians parallel those provided to non-Indigenous people by the provinces. They tend to be larger on a per capita basis because they have more of the social problems (especially poverty) that these programs are meant to alleviate.
Interesting how there are multiple FN chiefs listen in the 2025 Forbes billionaire list, imagine how much they are sending to Trudeau's or Carney's offshore accounts as well
A direct government statement from Budget 2024 indicates that, since 2015, the federal government has invested approximately $200 billion in Indigenous priorities. This cumulative figure encompasses program spending on health care, education, child and family services, housing, infrastructure, and reconciliation efforts.Additionally, settlements for historical claims (e.g., class actions related to education, child welfare, and other wrongs) have added tens of billions more, with over $57 billion in agreed settlements since 2015 and contingent liabilities reaching $76 billion by 2023.
Let's just elect a sole indigneous Prime Minister and parliament and pass every bill proposed. In 4 years, whatever is left of Canada, we should call that reparation enough.
Then we can spend the next 150 years rebuilding what was destroyed in those 4 years
Nothing will ever be enough, these guys lived in glorified camps until Canada was formed but still think they own/deserve the entire country. We're "invaders" and whatever else they want to call us, but they sure do enjoy using our modern building techniques, HVAC, goods, services, funding... list goes on. Not even trying to be rude but there's solid reasons the general sentiment around this issue is that they're entitled grifters. Those kind of opinions don't just form overnight.
Asked ChatGPT to summarize settlements made through the Specific Claims process using CIRNAC data and this is what it gave me (this matches other data sources).
Specific Claims Settled (Summary by Year)
Fiscal Year - # of Claims Settled - Approx. Total Settlement Value - Average per Claim
2013–14 - 15 - $369 M - $24.6 M
2014–15 - 15 - $36 M - $2.4 M
2015–16 - 11 - $27 M - $2.5 M
2016–17 - 17 - $253 M - $14.9 M
2017–18 - 31 - $1.28 B - $41.3 M
2018–19 - 48 - $627 M - $13.1 M
2019–20 - 33 - $799 M - $24.2 M
2020–21 - 36 - $1.75 B - $48.6 M
2021–22 – 26 - $364 M - $14.0 M
2022–23 - 56 - $3.5 B - $62.5 M
2023–24 - 42 - $2.5 B - $59.5 M
2024–25 - 69 - $7.06 B - $201.3 M
Looks like a big boost in claims settled in recent years and with the average settlement per claim being much higher. Perhaps this is related to the litigation directive issued in 2019 that instructed Canada's negotiators and lawyers to prioritize settling.
In March 2025, CIRNAC reported that there are 754 claims going through the Specific Claims process. Given the average in recent years seems to be around $50 million per claim, that means it would take about $37.7 billion to settle those 754 claims. Who knows how many more claims will be filed next year, the year after, and in the coming decades.
2400 members making $300,000 each while wealth disparity, overdoses, and homelessness in indigenous communities is higher than anywhere else in thefirstfirst world countries country . A scam is what it is.Edit: i cant edit my comment properly vecuase theres sone big r/vancouverlandlord disclosure in the way telling me to not be critical of first nations . Lol anything to stop a discussion.
Looking at how dumb that comment sounds, I honestly can't help but reiterate here that Canada's federal budget of $586 billion is less than $14,000 per Canadian.
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These settlements are dumb af because it implies they would have been better off without contact, but who is to say?
maybe their band would have been annihilated by a rival band?
maybe a different colonizing force would have found and conquered them first with more devastating consequences?
Playing what if's and the such like these is insane because it can't ever be truly proven or disproven, and yet, billions are being poured into the speculative 'what could have been' fantasies.
It’ll be enough when we say it’s enough, not when they say it’s enough. They will never say it’s enough, they will never say reconciliation has been achieved. It’s time for this country to grow a new backbone and actually say enough is enough.
When will it stop? Yeah I’m native and I see how badly they were treated. But there’s a point when we just gotta stop, why are we punishing a generation of people that had nothing to do with the problems of their ancestors…
I expect this money comes without any treatment of the underlying issues. This is a shakedown. Liberals probably see a significant portion of this coming back
Meanwhile Melfort has constant doctor and nurse shortages, daycares can’t afford to pay their staff a fair wage, and the high school class size keeps getting bigger.
So this seems like a great allocation of public money…
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~$300k for every man woman and child
Trickle down economics in a reserve?
LMAO itll all go to the chief, thats their laws
Not true.
Show me the accounting books... Oh wait
Heres where you can find third party audited financials of almost every first nation in Canada: click FNFTA, not Federal Funding, it's sorted oldest to newest top to bottom. https://fnp-ppn.aadnc-aandc.gc.ca/fnp/Main/Search/SearchFN.aspx?lang=eng
You want to see the books? Sure, right after you get them from snc Lavalin or whatever they are calling themselves today.
Most of these reserves are more corrupt than the actual government.
Source: trust me bro lmao
You must not know many first Nations people lol
I’ve dealt with the Saskatchewan reserves, all of them in fact. A bit of an authority on it with experience, while you’re just spitting out something someone told you about at some point lmao
No, they aren't.
Back when I worked IT, one of our local bands had an election. The next day no computer in their office would start because all of the hard drives were stolen. Nothing ever happened from that
635 Indian act bands in Canada, you have an anecdote, that doesn't prove anything, for 0.16% of bands. We could write all of these down and still come up with no significant number of bands, especially over time, to prove that corruption affects even half of the bands in Canada.
This is what I'm talking about, even in small towns there are people saying it's all corruption and cronyism with no proof and nobody gets charged or even fired.
It's just not a fact that a significant amount of Indian act bands have a corruption problem.
Is there corruption innsome bands, yes. Yes. YES, But it's not all, it's not even most, or many, or some, it's a few.
Google Carry the Kettle. Then Google the lawsuit the current sitting chief is involved in. Many Reserves are corrupt. It's a known fact.
Now do FSIN
Sure.
https://www.sac-isc.gc.ca/eng/1758055043121/1758055062329
I don’t think this really helps your case…
In the examples they provide that they dug into.
1) Covid funding, 30m given, 26.5m was audited, 23.5 is questionable (over 75%)
2) travel , 220k audited, 50k questionable (25%)
3)travel 570k audited, 265k questionable (50%)
Well, FSIN isn't an Indian act band, so while I'm not defending anyone, but especially not that corrupt thing, on was asked for their info. That's why this forensic audit happened because there was strong evidence of wrong doing.
The comment was made that there's no reporting, there is, I linked it. Then they asked about fsin and I know about the recent forensic audit become of their wrongdoings so I shared it.
My case is that there is far more reporting in these and other documents that aren't public than Canadians know about.
This is not the flex you think it is.
A.lot of us would love to have unfettered access to their books.
The corruption there runs just as deep
It's not a flex, it's a point. As regular citizens we don't get to see the books for any federal grant funding past these types of documents, so if you want more access from Indian act bands then go get it from the other 20+ billion in external spending first.
The corruption trope is exaggerated, there are 625 bands in Canada, and if you could name 50 corrupt I was you would have less than 10% of the total. It's an ongoing list of anecdotes without proof, or a random band here and there over years with problems.
No. First Nations get to be First.
Why aren't all first nation people well off and home owners if they each got millions of dollars over the years?
FNs don't each get millions of dollars, that money goes to the Ind ian act bands to pay for programs, services, administration, education, healthcare, and social services. Also, that billions number people keep saying also includes 2 federal departments with over 8,000 staff.
Poverty isn't something you can buy your way out of. In dians weren't people until 1951, it's not been a long time from being in abject poverty, including not being able leave reserves, buy land, or go to university. That's just 2 generations of being "real Canadians" compared to everyone else.
Why?
Exactly this the fn have literally earned nothing. Other than living in stone aged communities a few hundred years ago before being taken over. We that act wrong, yes. Is there other corruption yes, did they deserve millions ever few years? No. Should I a man of British decent demand money from the Vikings, more Scandinavians for the pillaging and rape they did? Or perhaps I should go after the Italians for what the romans did to England.
All corruption is bad and SHOULD be investigated, but using the guise of guilt to flease money from people who checks notes were fleeing corruption themselves is worse and easily fixed by making them realise that are not special we all have been screwed in the past
literally?
That's not what StatsCan says. https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/251217/dq251217c-eng.htm
Why?
Explain why you only want it from the Indians? You don't care where a single nickel of your tax dollars go except for Indians, that's a bit odd.
"I am asking a question based on this specific context"
"SEE YOU DONT CARE AT ALL ABOUT THIS THING THAT IS TOTALLY OUT OF CONTEXT!"
You do know that both can be true, right? We can want it from every sector (and should be demanding it as voters)
I want it from everyone
I dont know where you get off saying I don't care where my tax money goes to other than FN bands. I dont want my money going to Isreal eitherOr Bombardier Its not like we have to choose when asking for transparency, first them and then another
What about Hitler. Ok all discussions are over, continue the grift.
They’re all on the ISC website, free public view, a moot
It doesn’t matter at all whether it’s true or not. What’s true is that they’re getting 700 million and they shouldn’t be.
Cause racism? Tracks. They’ve won these court cases because able to prove systemic racism and genocide. Way to cement that reality, fool.
Don't feed the racists. Reasonable, rational people understand.
I have friends in Thunder Bay who all got $360k per person two months ago, apparently another $90k cheque is on the way too
Some will be smart with it, sadly many and blow it all in a year
You mean exactly like what would happen if any group of people were compensated similarly?
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That's crazy! No one from. My family has got even one single dollar. Maybe you should put me in touch with your friends?
They're lying
Ofcourse they are. I dint even get fillings covered thatre anything except silver lmao obviously every person isn't getting hundreds of 1000's of dollars
Lies
Jealous? or mad...
Neither just wondering how sad your life is that you are just another bullsh1t "trust me bro" liar
Sure your imaginary friends received a ton of cash when no one else did
Sure - you can prove that of course
Sure - when the fairytale 90k cheque comes there will be no proof of that that will be shared
Funny how NO ONE has presented/posted any stubs
In the reservations the $ goes to the Chief and they alone disperses it
But sure, apparently your buddies managed to receive checks from the Gov who doesnt send any!
Yeah - I TOTALLY believe you
you are so unhinged man and seriously need to get a life or go out side at least. ontario first nations people have been receiving cheques for a long time, its been in the local news multiple times
I live in Kenora, Ont. Not to far from TBay in the grand scheme of things and yes I know people who have received 100’s of thousands in “settlement” payments from the feds. Heck there is a Dodge Charger locally that has the vanity plate ‘PAYOUT2’. This happens.
tell that to the tards responding to my comment, liberals man, no brains between their ears
Lol
Nice, sounds like we just solved most homeless, drug addiction, alcoholism and violent crime. Now that every person has more than enough money to last them a few years, we shouldn't have all those problems in that community anymore.
3 weeks later…
I live in Huron Robinson Treaty territory in Ontario. Successive fed governments refused to update or adjust the $4 per person payment to band members since 1850, despite the wealth being taken from treaty land.
That deficit was just addressed, and the arrogance and ignorance of our forebears cost all Canadians $10 billion. Each band member on the reserve closest to me got $100k payments. And that was the first payment. And yes, there is division among the bands and members about how much should be spent on individual members and how much should be invested.
$10 billion when there was a treaty. The Feds and BC didn’t even bother to go that far in your province.
Take a walk down Robson and look at the wealth on display. FNs fighting back and winning is good for workers in this country.
Why do you think it's good for workers? The money came from workers in this country in the first place. It's tax dollars. Money is never free.
Problem is this is in perpetuity. Paying aboriginal people is a failed experiment because is unsustainable.
It’s not an experiment, it’s their land, and what became Canada decided to negotiate with the indigenous peoples on a nation to nation basis for contractual land use thru treaties. There are lots of areas that weren’t covered by treaty, and BC almost in its entirety wasn’t. That’s the problem right now, successive governments, federal, colonial and provincial all decided it was too troublesome to bother to negotiate treaties w the FNs of BC.
And now Canada pays.
Are you aware of the cost? However no society is stagnant and still living a Stone Age lifestyle. Also it forces people to believe a cultural religious system and identity. I’m atheist and know it’s all fake. We have 9.5 ish billion people on the planet and we’re just going to let the world suffer because of a selfishness displayed be 2.6% of Canadians? Indigenous if a lie, humans evolved from and out of Africa. Since when did anyone tell any band they can’t harvest or believe whatever arcane nonsense? And this entire problem revolves around racism. Unless you can get the world to depopulate it’s time we all realize the population is growing and we need everything for survival. It’s a failed experiment just as much as billionaires are a failure of society.
The total value of $4 paid every year from 1850 to 2025, adjusted for inflation to present-day purchasing power, is approximately $12,820.
Your point?
The settlement incorporates compensation for the 173 years that Canada has failed to share profits from nickel, copper, uranium, lumber and fish. According to the treaty, the HRT FNs were to get a portion of the profits gained from their lands. The $4 annuity hasn’t been raised since 1875 — despite the clause in the treaty that ties the value of the annuity to the expansion of resource development in the region.
Edit: source—
https://thenarwhal.ca/robinson-huron-treaty-explainer/
Would you trade places with them? Probably not.
The reason most people don't want to live anywhere near a reservation is exactly why they need to go. Just make us all Canadian already. End the cycle.
That won't end the cycle, 5 million Canadians live below the poverty line right now, 14 million paid no federal income tax last year.
There are 4x as many Canadians living on poverty as there are status Indians in total, what fixed their cycles of poverty?
If giving someone more money than 95% of Canadians make a year isn't enough to help them out of poverty, maybe we have bigger issues.
Individuals aren't given this money.
Unfortunately not. It's going to be squandered by only a select few
That's right, the people at the top get rich and scam everyone else. They sue "one behalf" of others then give them little to nothing and keep the difference. This whole thing needs to stop. The other point is when individuals do get hundreds of thousands of dollars, that money almost immediately makes its way to rich people because giving financially illiterate people money just means they'll lose it.
I'm not talking strictly about poverty.
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Of course not. This was the initial payment to get the government to the table to negotiate the actual temporary settlement.
Followed by the gifting of a casino..!!!
Federal grant transfers aren't reparations or treaty obligations, they're a result of Canada having a fiduciary duty to Indians and lands reserved for Indians.
So, no, this Indian act band will still be getting federal grant transfers to run their programs and services.
The money runs out when the sympathy runs out.
Based on Woke Far Left University Dogma, that won’t be anytime soon. Just as they are ‘useful idi*ts’ for Islamists, they unintentionally work similarly for the Far Right.
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It's not sovereign land, Indian Reserves are Federal Crown Land.
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Sovereignty implies a level of control and jurisdiction, Indian act bands are highly regulated on what they can do with their grant money, on Federal Crown land. Provincial Crown Land is what most of the provinces are it's under provincial jurisdiction.
2400 members. $300,000 each. More than any regular canadian will ever receive from the government. They say it's only the beginning?
Hilarious if it wasn't so sad.
Probably be blown through in about 15 minutes and they will be right back where they started again.
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lol you sound like a good dude.
"Indians and lands reserved for the Indians" is a phrase used in the context of the grant of legislative powers to Parliament in respect thereof.
It has no application in the context of any fiduciary duty that may exist.
Just letting you know so you don't confuse them.
Yes, thank you. But it's easier to say this to people and explain when there are questions then to explain the various pieces or point them to RP1763, the Constitution or Guerin right from the start. Especially when talking, potentially, to people who don't even know the very basics of Canada's relationship to Aboriginal people.
As far as I'm aware there is no one thing that created the fiduciary duty it's several things together. It's one place I have had trouble putting together a copy pasta to share about without getting into the weeds really fast.
I too am Indigenous to these lands, when do I get some money?
It would be nice to know where the people spamming this stuff are sourced out of.
Factory of disinformation just patrolling any topic on this.
Fiduciary duty doesn't mean government has to pay all the bills.
Do they have any duties to Canadians? Or is it just a one way duty?
Just reporting and audits to the Gov't.
No more duty than any other Canadian group receiving federal transfers. No duty as Indi ans outside of being Canadian.
This is just the first, now it will be a yearly thing but asking for more than the prior year
That’s like saying “no more healthcare or pensions” when the government has to pay back improperly collected taxes; or has to pay veterans for denying them benefits; or has to pay a homeowner for taking their property. For the most part (with a few exceptions) the various programs paid to status Indians parallel those provided to non-Indigenous people by the provinces. They tend to be larger on a per capita basis because they have more of the social problems (especially poverty) that these programs are meant to alleviate.
The government under Trudeau already spent over 200 billion in 10 years alone (and still ongoing funds being sent)
Im not sure how much more they need or how much will fix their issues but its an insane amount of money we've been spending on first nations
This doesn't even count settlements and land grabs
Explains why inflation is so high.
Interesting how there are multiple FN chiefs listen in the 2025 Forbes billionaire list, imagine how much they are sending to Trudeau's or Carney's offshore accounts as well
would you mind providing their names? i can’t find anything to confirm your claims
Is that actually true? That is a wildly high number
A direct government statement from Budget 2024 indicates that, since 2015, the federal government has invested approximately $200 billion in Indigenous priorities. This cumulative figure encompasses program spending on health care, education, child and family services, housing, infrastructure, and reconciliation efforts.Additionally, settlements for historical claims (e.g., class actions related to education, child welfare, and other wrongs) have added tens of billions more, with over $57 billion in agreed settlements since 2015 and contingent liabilities reaching $76 billion by 2023.
Im just tired of it.
It will never end.
The article even says it’s just a milestone and there’s a long way to go before reconciliation lmao. 713m not enough
Settlements should be tied to abolishing the Indian act and reducing future payments
That's not going to happen
Every step is always going to be just a milestone. No concept of an actual target but by God we'll take steps here and there.
Let's just elect a sole indigneous Prime Minister and parliament and pass every bill proposed. In 4 years, whatever is left of Canada, we should call that reparation enough.
Then we can spend the next 150 years rebuilding what was destroyed in those 4 years
all payments to FN should be stopped immediately, more than enough has been given out
Just as long as they get their reconciliation without having to prove the truth. Convenient how the 215 body report in Kamloops has been sealed.
Nothing will ever be enough, these guys lived in glorified camps until Canada was formed but still think they own/deserve the entire country. We're "invaders" and whatever else they want to call us, but they sure do enjoy using our modern building techniques, HVAC, goods, services, funding... list goes on. Not even trying to be rude but there's solid reasons the general sentiment around this issue is that they're entitled grifters. Those kind of opinions don't just form overnight.
What Real privilege looks like
Every person that receives money should now be the exact same as every Canadian and it's now settled forever ...reconciliation complete and closed
Right? Should be done now, but very unlikely unfortunately
The never ending money hose, decade after decade.
Asked ChatGPT to summarize settlements made through the Specific Claims process using CIRNAC data and this is what it gave me (this matches other data sources).
Specific Claims Settled (Summary by Year)
Fiscal Year - # of Claims Settled - Approx. Total Settlement Value - Average per Claim
Looks like a big boost in claims settled in recent years and with the average settlement per claim being much higher. Perhaps this is related to the litigation directive issued in 2019 that instructed Canada's negotiators and lawyers to prioritize settling.
In March 2025, CIRNAC reported that there are 754 claims going through the Specific Claims process. Given the average in recent years seems to be around $50 million per claim, that means it would take about $37.7 billion to settle those 754 claims. Who knows how many more claims will be filed next year, the year after, and in the coming decades.
Over 200k for every man woman and child on that reserve min. That's not including all the other handouts.
This is terrible , it needs to stop. This is not the gov money it’s all from tax payers
Cancer of Canada
Let's be honest the only basis for that money is sympathy and feigning guilt. We need to start calling it what it is.
Yes it’s RECONCILIATION
2400 members making $300,000 each while wealth disparity, overdoses, and homelessness in indigenous communities is higher than anywhere else in thefirstfirst world countries country . A scam is what it is.Edit: i cant edit my comment properly vecuase theres sone big r/vancouverlandlord disclosure in the way telling me to not be critical of first nations . Lol anything to stop a discussion.
Looking at how dumb that comment sounds, I honestly can't help but reiterate here that Canada's federal budget of $586 billion is less than $14,000 per Canadian.
For generations that never suffered oppression and receive $32 Billion per year, paid for by generations who never oppressed.
Payments based on race is ‘native privilege’.
The federal government should bring the Canadian Forces to the next extor…..negotiation meeting
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MERRY CHRISTMAS!
This makes me physically ill
Wtf are we doing
These settlements are dumb af because it implies they would have been better off without contact, but who is to say?
Playing what if's and the such like these is insane because it can't ever be truly proven or disproven, and yet, billions are being poured into the speculative 'what could have been' fantasies.
Crying babies get the milk.
Can we just send in the military and conquer them again? They aren't citizens, so what's the problem?
And no I don't consider them citizens, if the Canadian government helps you this much, you aren't one of us.
I just hate these freeloaders so much! All of them! Every single one of them is terrible!
That is now paid in full. No more to them, no matter how they spend it.
The exhaustion this causes. So tiresome. Canada is a joke of a country
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Already have and will again. Merry Christmas!
It’ll be enough when we say it’s enough, not when they say it’s enough. They will never say it’s enough, they will never say reconciliation has been achieved. It’s time for this country to grow a new backbone and actually say enough is enough.
Native Fatigue
Good for those chiefs. They deserve it
Chief will be getting more cayman properties
When will it stop? Yeah I’m native and I see how badly they were treated. But there’s a point when we just gotta stop, why are we punishing a generation of people that had nothing to do with the problems of their ancestors…
I expect this money comes without any treatment of the underlying issues. This is a shakedown. Liberals probably see a significant portion of this coming back
Meanwhile Melfort has constant doctor and nurse shortages, daycares can’t afford to pay their staff a fair wage, and the high school class size keeps getting bigger.
So this seems like a great allocation of public money…
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