Frisk shows no emotion looking like -_-
RALSEI flees sobbing while trying to explain they're the MIGHTY INTERMEDIATE from the prophecy he didn't wanna mention.
SUSIE spared herself after being terrified at her utter inability to get any reaction out of FRISK.
KRIS stared at FRISK and LOST THE STARTING CONTEST
Didn’t you do the new game + after getting the all shadow crystal ending? Lets you play as frisk from your undertale save file at the same LV and equipment.
Reminder that frisk is a lightworlder, so they could 100% just smash the speakers and win the fight by default. But even if they were forced into a fight in the dark world, unlike the fun gang, frisks damage is always lethal.
If that was actually how that worked then Kris or Susie could've just done that too but it's not. Frisk's damage always being lethal just isn't true either.
They could have? Like Susie or Kris could have also just smashed the speakers, it’s shown that objects can be damaged in the dark world, looking at tenna who depending on your playthrough and fight can be smashed. Not to mention it is literally true in frisks case, frisks damage is almost without exception always lethal, to almost everyone they face. On the other hand, Kris and the fun gangs damage is almost never lethal, unless specified otherwise.
What's done to objects in the dark world does have effects on the light world equivalent of the object and vice versa but there's nothing that indicates that you can interact with something as if it's the light world version of the object while you're in the dark world. Anyway it would be kind of lame if most of the game's conflict was actually that easy to circumvent.
Frisk's attacks are never super lethal outside of betrayal kills or bosses on genocide and even those are just because of how monsters work. Outside of that it takes multiple hits to kill anything.
1) lame, maybe, but that is the distinct advantage of having a corporeal animated form.
2) they are lethal, not a single one of Kris, Susie, or ralsei’s attacks can kill, but every one of frisks attacks can kill.
It's not something presented as being possible to do from within the dark world though. Damage to something is reflected between both worlds but if you're in the dark world you have to actually fight the darkner version of the object to damage it.
I don't see any reason why Kris, Susie, and Ralsei wouldn't be able to kill. It's just that darkners flee when critically damaged in most situations unlike monsters in Undertale that just kind of sit there for some reason.
They can spare multiple enemies at once since each one of them can spare, but to spare Sweet Cap'n Cakes you need to occupy each of them with a dance separately and they snap out of it after a turn. Since Frisk is alone, they can only dance with one enemy at a time, therefore they can't win.
Frisk shows no emotion looking like -_-
RALSEI flees sobbing while trying to explain they're the MIGHTY INTERMEDIATE from the prophecy he didn't wanna mention.
SUSIE spared herself after being terrified at her inability to get any reaction out of FRISK.
KRIS stared at FRISK and LOST THE STARTING CONTEST
People seem to forget we've yet to see the Fuck Squad's endgame. For all we know, by Chapter 7, titans will be nothing more than stronger than average enemies to them.
I mean. Frisk can just refuse to die. As they did during fight against god of hyperdeath (and that god had power of 6 human souls and all monsters in underground).
But, as you said, we don't know how OP Kris, Susie and Ralsei will get in ending of Deltarune. So, right now as in ending of chapter 4, Frisk solos Them.
And soo did the other humans souls and even the amalgamates,and soo did flowey,as Far as we are aware EVERYONE with determination has a file,but Only the person with the MOST gets Control over time
We do, Kris has a file you SAVE over in the beginning of the game, the text on the SAVE Points is similar to how UT does it and implies Kris canonically knows about them, etc. However, you’re totally right that the power only goes to the strongest, and Frisk’s will is stronger at their peak than Kris’ is right now.
The point is that we don’t know the kids gender, and it doesn’t matter. It’s androgynous, so it’s either a boy or girl depending on the player, making it she or he, which are both valid
Technically to y didn't specified the kid gender were just assuming that the kid pronouns are they/them that make sense since we don't know the kid gender so ok
Toby never specified that Undyne is a woman either, but everyone understands from the fact that she's always referred to as she/her that she is a woman. It doesn't have to be said outright. Frisk is never referred to as he or she, only as they.
From my recollection, Frisk has only even been called Frisk, human, some variation of kid, "whatever you are," and [name of the first fallen child (Chara)]. All the dialog we see is of monsters talking to Frisk or recordings (text included). I can't think of a time when we'd even see a conversation where Frisk would be referred to with any pronoun.
If you have an instance proving me wrong, feel free to share it. Otherwise, you're just as wrong as the person you're correcting
Anything else we could do other than FIGHTing Asgor when reaching him the first time in neutral pacifist would have been preferable and considering he actually was making future plans involving Frisk before Flowey killed him, it's possible that a stronger version of ACT like SAVE would actually work.
Probably could have done something with Mad Dummy.
Would have probably made Omega Flowey a lot easier (or at least quicker)
There are places where it would have been beneficial to try, at the least.
But those can still be dealt with without SAVE, and it would likely be easier since SAVE only came up when we were at the peak of our determination (nowhere else can we just refuse death).
And again, if it came from frisk, why wouldn't it pop in any of these times too?
Why doesn't Frisk like soda? We don't know why Frisk does or doesn't do or want something.
What is obvious with critical thinking is that if we were responsible for creating the SAVE option, then we would be able to create it elsewhere as we see fit even if it serves no purpose like doing it in the Sans fight where even getting to the part where you can spare is a testament that you're insanely determined.
didn't falling_budget quite much told you that Kris also has 20 hp in light world, and in dark world stats change?
Plus, Frisk can equip stuff like Real knife, Heart Locket, or idk, Temmie Armor. (And Frisk can just say "I refuse" and not die. We can see it in pacifist ending.)
And then battle would rely on those 4 stuff - Who has more DT to reset timeline. If Frisk is from Pacifist (Frisk wins by flirting) / Neutral (something in between) / Geno- (Frisk obliterates them in 1 hit) endings.
Well, pensils are quite sharp, atleast 1 point, so here is high attack. (And Kris also has hidden knife from us. So maybe stats are from it.)
Also. Kris is teenager or so by how they look. (and that Asriel went to college).
Meanwhile Frisk is half of their size, so just a kid in around 5-10 years old.
They both have same hp. (and all Frisk has is some stick and bandage.)
Oh, don't start on this again. I am tired of Frisk / Kris gender stuff. (especially when it comes to Frisk, because ALL we know is monsters using gender neutral terms to the kid. And some of those monsters don't even know how human looks to begin with. You think they will be able to know what gender pronouns Frisk will want? Without Frisk saying to someone how to call them)
In my native language we liturally have He and They gender pronouns be the same (there isn't gender neutral way of calling someone. We have he/him as gender neutral too. And we don't have as much of nonbinary, and so on ppl here compared to other countries.)
And I also changed it even before you said about it. When I realised that I misspelled.
*3 normal enemies appeared
susies idea
Rude busters the roof over frisk
*Frisk takes 1 damage
Frisk shows no emotion looking like -_-
RALSEI flees sobbing while trying to explain they're the MIGHTY INTERMEDIATE from the prophecy he didn't wanna mention.
SUSIE spared herself after being terrified at her utter inability to get any reaction out of FRISK.
KRIS stared at FRISK and LOST THE STARTING CONTEST
BATTLE OVER
FRISK EARNED ALL YOUR D$
Ralsei: ... He's here.
Kris: Wait, but tha-
*Kris's soul suddenly feels less heavy*
Kris: Oh my God, he's there.
Maybe
But frisk cannot deal environmental damage
As such they are trapped
Instead of being the fun gang in that situation you'd be Frisk and not Kris
OF COURSE WE WOULD!
Frisk is THE vessel and we want nothing more than their total success
All my homies want to play as Frisk in deltarune
Didn’t you do the new game + after getting the all shadow crystal ending? Lets you play as frisk from your undertale save file at the same LV and equipment.
I'M NOT FALLING FOR THAT SHIT
Right, he has gone TOO FAR with that comment.
r/UsernameChecksOut
We'd leave Kris' body so god damn fast
Frisk at least wouldn’t throw me into a locker, steal my lunch money and then lock me in there until dawn.
frisk wins no diff
With pacifism, hopes and dreams is playing, and besides, i dont wanna hurt ralsei
The Soul to Kris: Kris... Pray to your God and hope this was pacifist route Frisk we're facing
Nah, pray it's low LV Neutral.
The soul wouldn't be with Frisk in that situation?
That's very accurate.
Weakest frisk vs strongest lancer fan club:
see if this was the $!?# Squad it would be different
Yeah they'd get steamrolled 10 times faster because reasons
Because no lancer in name
Realistically it's just whether the player is controlling Frisk or Kris NGL
Honestly I'd sabotage kris if it meant frisk gets to win
Nah, it’s the following cutscene that decides.
Or if they’re playing with swapped controllers.
Of course Ralsei got hit first
Just so you know Frisk couldn’t beat the sweet captain cakes
Frisk would wipe the floor with that trio
The fun gang however wouldn't be so good for the fight
Frisk when they see them infinite heal:
"whelp, guess I gotta do infinite damage then, huh?"
*proceeds to do exactly that
Frisk watching in abject horror as they heal to max health with an inch of their life left
The humble 9999999 attack, killing them before they have a chance to exist:
If Frisk needs to be level 19 for fucking sweet cap'n'cakes they're honestly pathetic
Reminder that frisk is a lightworlder, so they could 100% just smash the speakers and win the fight by default. But even if they were forced into a fight in the dark world, unlike the fun gang, frisks damage is always lethal.
If that was actually how that worked then Kris or Susie could've just done that too but it's not. Frisk's damage always being lethal just isn't true either.
They could have? Like Susie or Kris could have also just smashed the speakers, it’s shown that objects can be damaged in the dark world, looking at tenna who depending on your playthrough and fight can be smashed. Not to mention it is literally true in frisks case, frisks damage is almost without exception always lethal, to almost everyone they face. On the other hand, Kris and the fun gangs damage is almost never lethal, unless specified otherwise.
What's done to objects in the dark world does have effects on the light world equivalent of the object and vice versa but there's nothing that indicates that you can interact with something as if it's the light world version of the object while you're in the dark world. Anyway it would be kind of lame if most of the game's conflict was actually that easy to circumvent.
Frisk's attacks are never super lethal outside of betrayal kills or bosses on genocide and even those are just because of how monsters work. Outside of that it takes multiple hits to kill anything.
1) lame, maybe, but that is the distinct advantage of having a corporeal animated form. 2) they are lethal, not a single one of Kris, Susie, or ralsei’s attacks can kill, but every one of frisks attacks can kill.
It's not something presented as being possible to do from within the dark world though. Damage to something is reflected between both worlds but if you're in the dark world you have to actually fight the darkner version of the object to damage it.
I don't see any reason why Kris, Susie, and Ralsei wouldn't be able to kill. It's just that darkners flee when critically damaged in most situations unlike monsters in Undertale that just kind of sit there for some reason.
Just because the Fraud Gang are unable to spare multiple enemies at once doesn’t mean Frisk is subject to such limitations
They can spare multiple enemies at once since each one of them can spare, but to spare Sweet Cap'n Cakes you need to occupy each of them with a dance separately and they snap out of it after a turn. Since Frisk is alone, they can only dance with one enemy at a time, therefore they can't win.
Who says Frisk can only dance with one enemy at a time?
It's literally impossible to win that fight with a single member party because of how the dancing works and you can't kill them either.
Again, the Fraud Gang can’t succeed individually, Frisk could
And your argument for why this is?
Cope
Fair enough
I don't care how much you're trying to push the agenda, that's just not how that battle works.
and we all know frisk is known to respect battle limits and would NEVER EVER bend the rules right
>Battle has a mechanic were you're forever stuck in the battle menu and can't use options
>Move the battle box to the options and force an option
Frisk does shit like this more than once were they break the game to do something.
Unrelated but still the best medieval fight scene years later
"Guys I am not lying we are so fucked"
This is level 1 neutral frisk btw
Frisk shows no emotion looking like -_-
RALSEI flees sobbing while trying to explain they're the MIGHTY INTERMEDIATE from the prophecy he didn't wanna mention.
SUSIE spared herself after being terrified at her inability to get any reaction out of FRISK.
KRIS stared at FRISK and LOST THE STARTING CONTEST
BATTLE OVER
FRISK EARNED ALL YOUR D$
Why is everyone so insistent that Frisk would solo the Fun Gang and not get the shit kicked out of them
Slander is more important (and funnier) than facts
Because they went up against a god and made that god ragequit, Frisk is a BEAST
People seem to forget we've yet to see the Fuck Squad's endgame. For all we know, by Chapter 7, titans will be nothing more than stronger than average enemies to them.
I mean. Frisk can just refuse to die. As they did during fight against god of hyperdeath (and that god had power of 6 human souls and all monsters in underground).
But, as you said, we don't know how OP Kris, Susie and Ralsei will get in ending of Deltarune. So, right now as in ending of chapter 4, Frisk solos Them.
Frisk Glazers when I point out that we made them do more than half the shit they do in game.
So because WE made them do something that means the character isn't able to do it ? That's not how it work
Because Frisk just blatantly destroys icl
The reality is that Kris and Frisk are evenly matched because of both sides' ability to infinitely reset
Technically only Frisk’s resets are canonical
Kris canonically has a SAVE File, we’ve seen it. Doesn’t matter, though, because Frisk’s DT is stronger.
And soo did the other humans souls and even the amalgamates,and soo did flowey,as Far as we are aware EVERYONE with determination has a file,but Only the person with the MOST gets Control over time
We don't know that
We do know that, we've yet to see Kris refuse in a fight.
Roaring Knight fight? I count that as a refuse
That's Gaster allowing us to continue, Kris very likely would've preferred us losing that fight because they're working with the Knight
Yeah, we don't actually have confirmation that SAVE/LOAD is cannon in Deltarune.
Also, SAVE/LOAD and RESET all go to the one with the most DT. Only one entity can actually use this power in a match-up.
We do, Kris has a file you SAVE over in the beginning of the game, the text on the SAVE Points is similar to how UT does it and implies Kris canonically knows about them, etc. However, you’re totally right that the power only goes to the strongest, and Frisk’s will is stronger at their peak than Kris’ is right now.
Its Canon,but Its OUR load,NOT Kris
We ARE the ones manipulating the timeline,Not that enby teenager
Maintaining the agenda is our top priority
Determination
Merg; Fun gang Deltarune chapter 7 secret boss no hit
Frisk when Susie rude busters the ceiling to trap them under rubble or something
A rude buster just directed at them would probably be more than enough already.
And he is something like 5 years old
Frisk's pronouns are they/them
The point is that we don’t know the kids gender, and it doesn’t matter. It’s androgynous, so it’s either a boy or girl depending on the player, making it she or he, which are both valid
No,frisk pronouns are PAPYRUS
Technically to y didn't specified the kid gender were just assuming that the kid pronouns are they/them that make sense since we don't know the kid gender so ok
Toby never specified that Undyne is a woman either, but everyone understands from the fact that she's always referred to as she/her that she is a woman. It doesn't have to be said outright. Frisk is never referred to as he or she, only as they.
From my recollection, Frisk has only even been called Frisk, human, some variation of kid, "whatever you are," and [name of the first fallen child (Chara)]. All the dialog we see is of monsters talking to Frisk or recordings (text included). I can't think of a time when we'd even see a conversation where Frisk would be referred to with any pronoun.
If you have an instance proving me wrong, feel free to share it. Otherwise, you're just as wrong as the person you're correcting
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Fraud gang vs a nuclear bomb
Endgame fun gang will be able to obliterate Frisk
Btw this Knight gets folded a couple of seconds later, common Fraudisk L
Btw the Knight does not die.
We ALL know Kris, Frisk and all other vessels are NOTHING without us right
play the rest of the clip OP
the rest of the clip that shows that even though they send the knight through the roof he still lives? That clip?
they still beat him.
No. He still alive. He aint hear no bell.
Edit:spelling
Bum who can't do anything without the player vs guy who rips the soul from his own chest. Are we serious?
Frisk literally made a new button for the menu
+from the genocide route we see frisk doing stuff independently, so it isn't as bad as it seems
We did that, not frisk
If it was us who did that, we would be able to do it ourselves at any time.
Where else would we do it? And that applies to frisk too
Amalgamates would probably be a prime target.
Anything else we could do other than FIGHTing Asgor when reaching him the first time in neutral pacifist would have been preferable and considering he actually was making future plans involving Frisk before Flowey killed him, it's possible that a stronger version of ACT like SAVE would actually work.
Probably could have done something with Mad Dummy.
Would have probably made Omega Flowey a lot easier (or at least quicker)
There are places where it would have been beneficial to try, at the least.
But those can still be dealt with without SAVE, and it would likely be easier since SAVE only came up when we were at the peak of our determination (nowhere else can we just refuse death).
And again, if it came from frisk, why wouldn't it pop in any of these times too?
Why doesn't Frisk like soda? We don't know why Frisk does or doesn't do or want something.
What is obvious with critical thinking is that if we were responsible for creating the SAVE option, then we would be able to create it elsewhere as we see fit even if it serves no purpose like doing it in the Sans fight where even getting to the part where you can spare is a testament that you're insanely determined.
Frisk glaze is so crazy we forget that they only have 20 hp.
1 attack from Berdly and broski is dead.
me when I lie
frisk >>>>>>> everyone in deltarune. source: agenda
Frisk < Froggit in deltarune
Source: my superior agenda
Kris also has 20 hp
The difference is in the dark worlds, where HP is higher for some reason?
Still solo since Kris has 10 attack and 10 defense.
The humble 99 attack 99 defense frisk: -_-
Frisk needs to kill people and collect tools to surpass Kris. Meanwhile, the better vessel has pure stats.
didn't falling_budget quite much told you that Kris also has 20 hp in light world, and in dark world stats change?
Plus, Frisk can equip stuff like Real knife, Heart Locket, or idk, Temmie Armor. (And Frisk can just say "I refuse" and not die. We can see it in pacifist ending.)
And then battle would rely on those 4 stuff - Who has more DT to reset timeline. If Frisk is from Pacifist (Frisk wins by flirting) / Neutral (something in between) / Geno- (Frisk obliterates them in 1 hit) endings.
Kris still is superior to Frisk on base stats due to the damage and defense even outside the dark world.
We can only see that in the pacifist ending.
And we don't see Kris equipping anything outside of 2 pencils.
Well, pensils are quite sharp, atleast 1 point, so here is high attack. (And Kris also has hidden knife from us. So maybe stats are from it.)
Also. Kris is teenager or so by how they look. (and that Asriel went to college).
Meanwhile Frisk is half of their size, so just a kid in around 5-10 years old.
They both have same hp. (and all Frisk has is some stick and bandage.)
Krisgendering strikes again 😔
Frisk has the same HP as Kris because Frisk is just built different.
Oh, don't start on this again. I am tired of Frisk / Kris gender stuff. (especially when it comes to Frisk, because ALL we know is monsters using gender neutral terms to the kid. And some of those monsters don't even know how human looks to begin with. You think they will be able to know what gender pronouns Frisk will want? Without Frisk saying to someone how to call them)
In my native language we liturally have He and They gender pronouns be the same (there isn't gender neutral way of calling someone. We have he/him as gender neutral too. And we don't have as much of nonbinary, and so on ppl here compared to other countries.)
And I also changed it even before you said about it. When I realised that I misspelled.
Kris is way older than Frisk yet has the same light world stats as LV 1 Frisk, tf you mean?
???
Frisk has 20 HP, 0 AT, 0 DF
Kris has 20 HP, 10 AT, 10 DEF