Update:
I went ahead and made this thread the sticky, since there is already a lot of discussion under it, and I didn't want to redirect to a new thread. Again, I re-iterate that while this is an NSFW thread, please try to keep the content PG-13 at worst. Please keep all discussion to the Shayy situation to this thread.
Original:
Hey everyone, this is clearly some news that has come up. I haven't read the post yet but I've pre-emptively marked the thread based on the content warnings at the top.
The thread is marked as NSFW due to the sensitive nature of these topics, but do not take this as a relaxation of the rules regarding adult/obscene content. While this particular thing may be discussed here, our rules about NSFW and obscene content still stand and will still be actioned here.
Gonna be honest, I dont care. I'm still gonna watch, regardless. Sure, he did bad stuff, he's still gonna get views. I just dont see why it has to be such a big deal. Then again, I'm just a kid.
Well, I mean, I know it's a big deal. He did some evil stuff and whatnot. But no matter how much is said, hes still just gonna be the same guy unless he steps off of Youtube. Or well, that's what I think.
Now, I'm not one to argue, and I agree that the stuff he did isn't right, but what change is that gonna do for his channel? It ain't gonna do shit. He'll probably upload still regardless of the situation he's in.
Oh god. I've just found out that, and in my YouTube recap it's said I'm in the top 0.1% of their fans. It kinda hurts me how they turned out to be an awful person, like majority of the YouTube content creators unfortunately.
My YouTube rewind just came out and I’m in the 2% of viewers and it really goes to show how quickly someone you look up to can truly be a disgusting individual on the inside man
Damn, I trusted Shayy. Almost everything in the Undertale Community is bad, but before Shayy got exposed, I thought he was the one good thing in the Community. Some of my friends have family members who got groomed by Shayy. I'm currently running a help center in my town for people who need mental help after what happened to them and if they are too scared to speak up and call the police about this.
Why are you being Transphobic on a topic related to Undertale. If you hate the game then that checks out, but if you don't this is like, the wokest game of all time.
. . . This really suck. I was a big fan of Shayy. They were my favorite youtuber and streamer and im fuckign depressed about that. They were where i went for comfort. Now i hope that they never come back to internet. I hope theyll get mental healt help coz they clearly have a problem. Cant quite seem to hate them but im so fuckign angry and sad at same time. They were an idol to me with how open minded they seemed, nice, funny and talented as heck on my favorite game and now i learn their an absolute trash. Anyway, F U C K SHAYY. Sorry for the vent
ALSO BIG CONGRATULATIONS TO THE VICTIMS FOR BEING SO BRAVE AND SPEAKING OF THIS! WE LOVE YOU ALL! BIG SUPPORT
I knew their vibes were bad but I didn't expect it to this level. I got the "piece of shit off camera" vibes when I first tried watching one of their videos a while back, it was just 4chan energy, Idk how else to explain it, luckily there is plenty of much better UT/DR content creators out there.
So I just recently heard about the shay situation, and 262 docs is a lot of "evidence". But why was everyone on the "fuck shayy" train so early? Am I missing actual proof cuz you would not know the lengths twitter would go to to bring someone down to the low of a groomer. I don't think they'd do something like that. (I know that doesn't matter cuz usually it's the last person you'd expect). I'm genuinely curious but don't wanna read a fucking dictionary worth of allegations. Pls help.
Cibles insisting that Shayy's YouTube account be closed and creators push for their content on their channel to be taken down instead of the content staying up as an archive and the ad revenue donated to good causes strikes me as self-serving, at the very least it benefits nobody.
That's how this always works, isn't it? One wolf falls, another takes over and convinces the others to kick them while they're down
I doubt it is even possible to convince Shayy to donate all their revenue, considering they are 2-3x richer than average Florida man just from YouTube, if SocialCounts numbers are right.
I'm still upset about this. All I can think about is their message in the 10th anniversary stream with "lifelong connections" in waterfall. They thought acting like this would be lifelong?
There's a specific interaction with one of the victims, who's AFAB, but prefers to use they/he and Shayy forces them to change their pronounce on public profile during a sexual roleplay. There's moment where they beg a transmasc person to not do a mastectomy, to no cut their hair short. There are weird interactions with cis men. A lot of victims tend to be just turned 18 transfem people early in transition (one of who got raped by their account) or transmasc people of similar age who they again inappropriately refer to by feminine terms ( be it a "femboy" or "girl" or smth).
It's hard to say if it's the fact that they actively support trans people in public and themselves are one, so a lot of fans tend to be trans or they specifically target them.
All depends on your definition of what makes someone a monster. They (allegedly) sexually assaulted two people, have multiple allegations of inappropriate touching, groomed several minors and immediately made things sexual once they turned 18, and seemingly used their power within their community to use members for sexual gratification.
By this post, Im not defending or accusing Shayy of anything, since want to remain neutral until aiven some comfirmed proof.
So vesterday I got into the Shavy controversy and it got me wondering, cant it all be (the documents) just a conspiracy by their ex and their friends? I havent read the whole document but evervthing saw there could have been made up. There could have been a motif of iealousv. One Last thing is that why doesnt Shayy's ex sue them then? Of course, im not savina the documents must be False, im Just also saving they dont have to be true If Shayy truly did the things they are accused of tho, they are of course a very horrible person. I Hope i dont get cancelled for this post
the vast majority of it describes shayy luring CHILDREN into a "friendship", flirting with them, and proceeding to sexually assault them once they turned 18.
nothing was their fault, they were groomed, they were assaulted, shayy is a monster.
I love how people still correct they and he even in the middle of something as serious as this, it's like correcting someone with a gramatical error for a murder case haha
How depressing. I used their roaring knight boss fight video after being suggested it in the DR sub. Ofc, I wasn't a fan so I don't have the same feelings as someone who has seen their content for a long time. But they didn't seem very "off" while watching them, but thats based off one video. Seeing some clips on twitter, they knew the writing was on the wall w/ the way they were joking about a "fake doc" being written about them in the future.
But whatever, mine and your feelings don't matter. My heart is with the victims, who do matter.
Atp im 39% in the belief that they could have been faked like the kwite allegations. People are hateful and conniving to the point of making years' worth of "evidence" simply because they felt like it. Another theory being that the dropper of the original 100 smthn google page document was a pedophile themselves and are turning the blame on shayy. But that's an extremely loose theory. All around, im still 61% sure he is and has been an awful person, but im willing to defend him if it turns out to be false.
could you provide the source for this? I have yet to see this, I only see people just mentioning the document and than calling me evil when I don't immediately believe them. thanks!
i believe if you look on cibles twitter she had said shayy dmed her. not to mention before shayy had admitted to the sexual behaviour. unfortunately i do not have links for these as shayys twt is private, you might be able to find them online and within the documents, i know its long but it is worth the read as theres alot of detail in there
sorry but I have to take this with a grain of salt. after the dream situation and the kwite situation I'm beginning to become much more skeptical of allegations and the internets consensus of "guilty until proven innocent" you know? cibbles saying they were dmed is still only a secondary source and isn't solid proof, it can help, but its not 100%. like I said, I'm very cautious after all the people who have been innocent after being accused of these sorts of things.
i absolutely agree with you on those situations and understand, but have you read the doc? also im sure if you maybe look in the shayy subreddit maybe there may be more stuff for you as i know this situation isnt like kwite and dreams, as this has substantial evidence
usually even with dm pics I am skeptical (I have seen multiple instances of people showing dms that were faked and I knew were faked, personal drama stuff I won't get into). Its a bit more compelling that clearly a lot of effort went into creating such a big document but that's neither here nor there, I haven't had the time to read the full document (school, life, work, generally having other things to do). But I do see they have uploaded several pictures of dms. I think I would be more compelled if I saw a video of going through dms as that's much harder to fake. Usually for me to really completely believe it I need video evidence or very through record keeping and or actual photos. though the dms are evidence, having seen people fake dms in a convincing way I do take it with a grain of salt, than again if they were faked it would be trivially easy for shayy to disprove that so theres that. All in all I'm not saying its not possible that it happened, just that I'm holding off before saying anything as I would like to see things progress a bit before forming an opinion, of course I'm probably going to get called evil for that
You'd be surprised, often times whenever I don't immediately take a side in things like this people assume I'm just on the other side... heavens forbid I don't immediately assume someones guilty when they're accused of something. I get not all people are like that, but these days more and more people seem to have that kind of behavior
Honestly, considering this guy devoted so much time to the genocide run... I can't say I'm surprised. Those who think dark thoughts are often drawn to the darker paths of fantasy and fiction - not to say that ALL who are will be this way, but it's definitely a possible indicator of such things.
To be fair, did they touch kids? I only read they abused their partner (who is asexual) and flirt (groomed) the underaged. Yes it is still unforgivable, but people seem increasingly exaggerated his wrongdoings.
shayy might be trying to change, but that doesnt mean their actions are unexcused.
you can feel bad for them in the sense that it sucks that they were in a bad mental state; but the sympathy for that should stop once you realise that they groomed and sexually assaulted multiple people. the sympathy for them should stop once you realise that they only got proffesional help for the issues they had AFTER they got exposed. they are a monster.
do we have any proof? I get its awful if it happened, but isn't it all allegations? I have yet to see anyone offer any actual proof, and whenever I ask for it I'm called evil for not immediantly believing them (I've become very skeptical after the kwite situation). not saying it didn't happen, just that I'd like more evidence
The ones that people didn't what to be associated with them and collabs same with others, for example I was trying to find a hide and seek vid on cibles's channel but it got deleted cause it had shayy in it
Reddit would be an even greater cesspool if you couldn't, this isn't YouTube - although fun fact, you used to be able to go into the negative on YouTube as well, but now their downvote doesn't even do anything
Twitter users not reacting well to Merg's second video, even though he was a victim of Shayy as well by him throwing gas on how the community was ganging up on him, makes me sigh at the lack of awareness. Its not a competition and he has a right to have his say as well since everyone is airing it out.
That's just completely false in sense that merg wasn't assaulted or abused by them. That vid was a complete clusterfuck of a narcissism and dancing on a grave for their own benefit.
Respectfully Disagree, Shayy added fuel to the fire during a time where he was being harass by a bunch of the community. The screenshots also more or less mocking him, calling him 'barely a Undertale youtuber' while also unironically calling himself not a gooner.
Don't care how weird you may feel about him, he has a right to air it all out as well, because I have seen this community and other similar jump on creators for similar dumb reasons and its not healthy for anyone.
No content creator should celebrate being better than repeated stained sexual maniac.
The whole idea of video just screams vengeance for being exposed as weirdo without actually collaborating with people, who were actually hurt by their actions. The community is rightfully enraged about using their comfort interest for pervere fantasies.
I don't know my dude, Id say he has it pretty justified to be like that since that was one of the bigger/biggest voices that smeared him and it lead to a bad dog piling I haven't seen since classic Homestuck witch hunts.
Harassing is still pretty fucking bad, this community in the past has done it BAD. Yeah its not someone physically touching him, but mentally that shit is pretty damn bad for anyone, it is still a form of bullying.
And if people don't like him for 'using their comfort interest', they are in charge of the buttons that they see and can block and move on to a creator that they prefer. What he does is what many others already do, and what others do like.
Idk if it’s technically grooming since there wasn’t a bad ending but he dated a 17 yo sqaishey when he was 23, and at that time they weren’t another YouTuber but just a fan of theirs
Take an example. I am currently in Trade school. We got people from 17 to 35. Everyone is at the same step of life right now.
Someone around 25 and more, it would be strange for them to date a 17. But under 25? Bro, they are almost the same. Seriously. People around 23 may think they are more mature, but as a matter of fact they aren't.
I think that they were referring to stamps not being a groomer when they said that there ws no evidence and the second post was intended to mean more like "shayy is the groomer not stamps. Its not very clear what they meant either way
Pity. They deserved to do at least some time. No amount of therapy is ever gonna make up for the damage caused. Guess their punishment is gonna just solely be them ruining their life and losing everything they built up. Because they are never gonna be accepted in this community or online again.
Hate to break it to you, but most of that document (at least from what ive skimmed through) includes "only" online grooming and such, and it is unfortunately very rare for someone to face time for online stuff like that, at least from what I've seen. It's always very depressing to see people going virtually unpunished for that stuff, at least when it comes to legal matters
Merg cooked with his two videos again merg is a chill guy he didn't deserve the harassment just for something that really didn't matter. He is a chill YouTuber and I'm glad he continues making YouTube videos. And please as he said support the victims. It really sucks that Merg got so much hate and Shayy made things worse I think or Shayy jumped in to make Merg seem worse.
I mean not much just make some Gooner thumbnails that really weren't harming anyone and a bunch of people including Shayy tried to make him seem way worse for an adult Chara thumbnail. As Merg said Shayy was a hypocrite. It was nothing to get mad over and Shayy chiming in to also attack Merg is awful.
Uhhh.. So people were attacking him because he made an adult Chara and put it in a thumbnail?? Wtf?! How is that offensive to anyone? I’ve seen tons of fanart of Frisk and Chara as adults. That is a stupid thing to get mad over.
People saying: "why'd shayy have to go and do that now" "they were a good streamer"
Bro BEHIND THE SCENES THEY WERE ALREADY DOING THAT SHIT IT ISN'T NEW IT STARTED YEARS AGO AND THEYRE NOW FINALLY GETTING WHAT THEY DESERVE. SHAYY SHOULD NEVER BE CALLED AN UNDERTALE FAN AGAIN. WE DONT ACCEPT THEM IN OUR FANDOM ANYMORE FUCK THEM.
Update: I went ahead and made this thread the sticky, since there is already a lot of discussion under it, and I didn't want to redirect to a new thread. Again, I re-iterate that while this is an NSFW thread, please try to keep the content PG-13 at worst. Please keep all discussion to the Shayy situation to this thread.
Original: Hey everyone, this is clearly some news that has come up. I haven't read the post yet but I've pre-emptively marked the thread based on the content warnings at the top.
The thread is marked as NSFW due to the sensitive nature of these topics, but do not take this as a relaxation of the rules regarding adult/obscene content. While this particular thing may be discussed here, our rules about NSFW and obscene content still stand and will still be actioned here.
Update: This is now basically the megathread
Please keep it civil and mature.
Y'know what? I hate to say it, but... I think we owe a bit of an apology to Sebastian Fox.
well well well
Does anyone have the 262 page link?
Gonna be honest, I dont care. I'm still gonna watch, regardless. Sure, he did bad stuff, he's still gonna get views. I just dont see why it has to be such a big deal. Then again, I'm just a kid.
If you can't see why this is a big deal then yeah, you're correct. You're just a kid and the scope of this issue is beyond your understanding.
Well, I mean, I know it's a big deal. He did some evil stuff and whatnot. But no matter how much is said, hes still just gonna be the same guy unless he steps off of Youtube. Or well, that's what I think.
(Yes, this is gonna bring a lot of unwanted attention, but it's true for me. I just dont care).
When I'm dying on a stupid hill for no reason and my opponent is a Redditor
Now, I'm not one to argue, and I agree that the stuff he did isn't right, but what change is that gonna do for his channel? It ain't gonna do shit. He'll probably upload still regardless of the situation he's in.
THEY have disappeared off the internet, we are not getting new content from them for years, if at all
I didn't know that they went by they
I didn't know that, so thank you for sharing that with me.
To be fair, I should've done more research instead of just hearing about it and then complaining about it.
Character Development at its finest
Oh god. I've just found out that, and in my YouTube recap it's said I'm in the top 0.1% of their fans. It kinda hurts me how they turned out to be an awful person, like majority of the YouTube content creators unfortunately.
My YouTube rewind just came out and I’m in the 2% of viewers and it really goes to show how quickly someone you look up to can truly be a disgusting individual on the inside man
Damn, I trusted Shayy. Almost everything in the Undertale Community is bad, but before Shayy got exposed, I thought he was the one good thing in the Community. Some of my friends have family members who got groomed by Shayy. I'm currently running a help center in my town for people who need mental help after what happened to them and if they are too scared to speak up and call the police about this.
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What is based about saying “he”?
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Why are you being Transphobic on a topic related to Undertale. If you hate the game then that checks out, but if you don't this is like, the wokest game of all time.
Isn’t that homophobic/transphobic (I forgot which one)?
I’m asking because I genuinely don’t know, it just gives off bad vibes.
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But I have a friend who’s trans. Transphobia generally makes me feel uncomfortable
. . . This really suck. I was a big fan of Shayy. They were my favorite youtuber and streamer and im fuckign depressed about that. They were where i went for comfort. Now i hope that they never come back to internet. I hope theyll get mental healt help coz they clearly have a problem. Cant quite seem to hate them but im so fuckign angry and sad at same time. They were an idol to me with how open minded they seemed, nice, funny and talented as heck on my favorite game and now i learn their an absolute trash. Anyway, F U C K SHAYY. Sorry for the vent ALSO BIG CONGRATULATIONS TO THE VICTIMS FOR BEING SO BRAVE AND SPEAKING OF THIS! WE LOVE YOU ALL! BIG SUPPORT
i dinit evn know about this and it just hit me like a truck- SHAYY???
I didn't even know about this until today
I know this sounds really cliché to say after somebody gets exposed but for some reason i detected some bad juju i just couldn’t put my finger on it
I knew their vibes were bad but I didn't expect it to this level. I got the "piece of shit off camera" vibes when I first tried watching one of their videos a while back, it was just 4chan energy, Idk how else to explain it, luckily there is plenty of much better UT/DR content creators out there.
So I just recently heard about the shay situation, and 262 docs is a lot of "evidence". But why was everyone on the "fuck shayy" train so early? Am I missing actual proof cuz you would not know the lengths twitter would go to to bring someone down to the low of a groomer. I don't think they'd do something like that. (I know that doesn't matter cuz usually it's the last person you'd expect). I'm genuinely curious but don't wanna read a fucking dictionary worth of allegations. Pls help.
Go touch grass you disgusting freak 21 VICTIMS 21. VICTIMS. AND YOU WANNA DISREGARD ALL THE EVIDENCE THE SCREEN SHOTS THE VICTIMS
I haven't seen them. Don't get mad. I barely watched him in years, sorry. Very bad if he did do that....
yeahhh
ts crazy
Didnt know this
Cibles insisting that Shayy's YouTube account be closed and creators push for their content on their channel to be taken down instead of the content staying up as an archive and the ad revenue donated to good causes strikes me as self-serving, at the very least it benefits nobody.
That's how this always works, isn't it? One wolf falls, another takes over and convinces the others to kick them while they're down
I doubt it is even possible to convince Shayy to donate all their revenue, considering they are 2-3x richer than average Florida man just from YouTube, if SocialCounts numbers are right.
Shayy is my fav ytbr and maybe not anymore
I'm still upset about this. All I can think about is their message in the 10th anniversary stream with "lifelong connections" in waterfall. They thought acting like this would be lifelong?
.....damn every single popular fandom has had drama this year
…Darn!
can’t have shit here bro
They been saying he is transphobic? Is it true?
They*
they seem to have a weird forced feminization fetish and also looks like they're a chaser. enby and a chaser, what a bizarre world.
So uh this person went to specifically target trans people to sexually harass them specifically because they are trans, is that it?
or do they target cis people to "make them trans" or something like that, because that would be even worse
Former, they said that they'd fuck the dysphoria out of someone which is extremely creepy and them being a chaser
There's a specific interaction with one of the victims, who's AFAB, but prefers to use they/he and Shayy forces them to change their pronounce on public profile during a sexual roleplay. There's moment where they beg a transmasc person to not do a mastectomy, to no cut their hair short. There are weird interactions with cis men. A lot of victims tend to be just turned 18 transfem people early in transition (one of who got raped by their account) or transmasc people of similar age who they again inappropriately refer to by feminine terms ( be it a "femboy" or "girl" or smth).
It's hard to say if it's the fact that they actively support trans people in public and themselves are one, so a lot of fans tend to be trans or they specifically target them.
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They’re not a monster, even monsters have souls
All depends on your definition of what makes someone a monster. They (allegedly) sexually assaulted two people, have multiple allegations of inappropriate touching, groomed several minors and immediately made things sexual once they turned 18, and seemingly used their power within their community to use members for sexual gratification.
This is the worst fucking year ever first we have a pedophile as a president then one of my (used to be favorite) youtuber is a Pedophile too.
I always loved him but now I see who he is
they do go by they/them but real 💔
I don’t give a flying FUCK ABOUT WHAT A RAPIST REFERS TO THEMSELVES AS
"Please respect rapists" Nah. That thing doesn't deserve anything like that.
I have always disliked shayy but I respected him since its a human should do to a human but I always felt something off with some of his things
them
Wait... didn't it do collabs with Seek?
Unfortunately... I hope to god seek has nothing to do with any of this.
Question about the Shayy controversy
By this post, Im not defending or accusing Shayy of anything, since want to remain neutral until aiven some comfirmed proof.
So vesterday I got into the Shavy controversy and it got me wondering, cant it all be (the documents) just a conspiracy by their ex and their friends? I havent read the whole document but evervthing saw there could have been made up. There could have been a motif of iealousv. One Last thing is that why doesnt Shayy's ex sue them then? Of course, im not savina the documents must be False, im Just also saving they dont have to be true If Shayy truly did the things they are accused of tho, they are of course a very horrible person. I Hope i dont get cancelled for this post
They also spoke about it on their discord but not in super explicit detail. https://www.reddit.com/r/Undertale/comments/1p2ivrm/shayy_openly_admits_to_the_allegations/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
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the vast majority of it describes shayy luring CHILDREN into a "friendship", flirting with them, and proceeding to sexually assault them once they turned 18.
nothing was their fault, they were groomed, they were assaulted, shayy is a monster.
shayy admit to everything, also suing isnt as accessible as media makes it seem
They did? I dont remember they did that
on their twitter and on discord.
it was appearently on their twitter which is now private
He did? Where?
*they
on discord and their twitter
I love how people still correct they and he even in the middle of something as serious as this, it's like correcting someone with a gramatical error for a murder case haha
I once spent almost all the rest of a day watching his nearly 7 hour long Ribbit video.
I would be more than glad to revoke every second of those seven hours.
I'm so glad that I went and played the mod instead of watching their playthrough
I imagine how much time I can get back if I revoke every single video and vod I watched of thiers
How depressing. I used their roaring knight boss fight video after being suggested it in the DR sub. Ofc, I wasn't a fan so I don't have the same feelings as someone who has seen their content for a long time. But they didn't seem very "off" while watching them, but thats based off one video. Seeing some clips on twitter, they knew the writing was on the wall w/ the way they were joking about a "fake doc" being written about them in the future.
But whatever, mine and your feelings don't matter. My heart is with the victims, who do matter.
Atp im 39% in the belief that they could have been faked like the kwite allegations. People are hateful and conniving to the point of making years' worth of "evidence" simply because they felt like it. Another theory being that the dropper of the original 100 smthn google page document was a pedophile themselves and are turning the blame on shayy. But that's an extremely loose theory. All around, im still 61% sure he is and has been an awful person, but im willing to defend him if it turns out to be false.
shayy had admitted to this behaviour
could you provide the source for this? I have yet to see this, I only see people just mentioning the document and than calling me evil when I don't immediately believe them. thanks!
https://www.reddit.com/r/Undertale/comments/1p2ivrm/shayy_openly_admits_to_the_allegations/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
They refer to the document and admit to their abuse.
i believe if you look on cibles twitter she had said shayy dmed her. not to mention before shayy had admitted to the sexual behaviour. unfortunately i do not have links for these as shayys twt is private, you might be able to find them online and within the documents, i know its long but it is worth the read as theres alot of detail in there
sorry but I have to take this with a grain of salt. after the dream situation and the kwite situation I'm beginning to become much more skeptical of allegations and the internets consensus of "guilty until proven innocent" you know? cibbles saying they were dmed is still only a secondary source and isn't solid proof, it can help, but its not 100%. like I said, I'm very cautious after all the people who have been innocent after being accused of these sorts of things.
here is the document in a easier format
i absolutely agree with you on those situations and understand, but have you read the doc? also im sure if you maybe look in the shayy subreddit maybe there may be more stuff for you as i know this situation isnt like kwite and dreams, as this has substantial evidence
usually even with dm pics I am skeptical (I have seen multiple instances of people showing dms that were faked and I knew were faked, personal drama stuff I won't get into). Its a bit more compelling that clearly a lot of effort went into creating such a big document but that's neither here nor there, I haven't had the time to read the full document (school, life, work, generally having other things to do). But I do see they have uploaded several pictures of dms. I think I would be more compelled if I saw a video of going through dms as that's much harder to fake. Usually for me to really completely believe it I need video evidence or very through record keeping and or actual photos. though the dms are evidence, having seen people fake dms in a convincing way I do take it with a grain of salt, than again if they were faked it would be trivially easy for shayy to disprove that so theres that. All in all I'm not saying its not possible that it happened, just that I'm holding off before saying anything as I would like to see things progress a bit before forming an opinion, of course I'm probably going to get called evil for that
no thats fine i dont think anyone would call you evil
You'd be surprised, often times whenever I don't immediately take a side in things like this people assume I'm just on the other side... heavens forbid I don't immediately assume someones guilty when they're accused of something. I get not all people are like that, but these days more and more people seem to have that kind of behavior
who's Shay?
Yeah why is this in the undertale sub?
Shayy is the biggest UT/DT youtuber lol wdym why
Was*, and even then they never surpassed Merg
I have literally never seen or heard of this person
Well you did hear now lol.
Honestly, considering this guy devoted so much time to the genocide run... I can't say I'm surprised. Those who think dark thoughts are often drawn to the darker paths of fantasy and fiction - not to say that ALL who are will be this way, but it's definitely a possible indicator of such things.
awful take??? it’s a video game???????
yeah this is an L take
How hard is it to not touch kids bro
He never touched any kids and nobody in the document claims he did. Just reddit making shit up.
To be fair, did they touch kids? I only read they abused their partner (who is asexual) and flirt (groomed) the underaged. Yes it is still unforgivable, but people seem increasingly exaggerated his wrongdoings.
just shut it i feel bad for him
shayy might be trying to change, but that doesnt mean their actions are unexcused.
you can feel bad for them in the sense that it sucks that they were in a bad mental state; but the sympathy for that should stop once you realise that they groomed and sexually assaulted multiple people. the sympathy for them should stop once you realise that they only got proffesional help for the issues they had AFTER they got exposed. they are a monster.
Don’t feel bad for him. Someone like Shayy does not deserve sympathy. And if you were in the victims shoes you’d feel the same.
do we have any proof? I get its awful if it happened, but isn't it all allegations? I have yet to see anyone offer any actual proof, and whenever I ask for it I'm called evil for not immediantly believing them (I've become very skeptical after the kwite situation). not saying it didn't happen, just that I'd like more evidence
The messages pretty much give proof. Maybe even enough to charge for some of those crimes.
But it is fair to want more evidence.
bro lost 100k subscribers within 6 days
GOD DAMN IT
Exactly how I feel
Never could've even guessed that this would happen. Well what can I say... "That's one less loose end" - Captain Price
Why? Of all people, why Shayy?
It’s been days and I still feel betrayed by them. They just had to be my favourite content creator alongside being a groomer. Gotta love the internet!
Day one of reading all of the 262 pages
How'd it go?
I'm still reading it
Hope you're doing okay <3
Oh yeah, thanx buddy. I'll let you know when I finish it!
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I bet you think that of every guy with long hair or a Gender flag, you aint slick
looked at their profile and they are NOT slick.
Even deleted their comment by now. Some mfs really be grasping for the smallest threads just to indirectly be sexist or racist
no you did not just stfu
Yeah I did digga
misgenders people
abelist
racist
peak reddit behavior.
...maybe asgore shouldnt open up the gates...
I would call them a monster but that implies that they still have a soul left
Change your flair. Like right now.
was shayy banned from undertake/dektarune community?
Not really, they did quit for a while for therapy and 56 videos got deleted so safe to say that he's not coming back
what videos were deleted?
The ones that people didn't what to be associated with them and collabs same with others, for example I was trying to find a hide and seek vid on cibles's channel but it got deleted cause it had shayy in it
The hide and seek vid is still up, just unlisted.
Oh, thx
I meant they
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I didn't know that you could get in the negative votes
Reddit would be an even greater cesspool if you couldn't, this isn't YouTube - although fun fact, you used to be able to go into the negative on YouTube as well, but now their downvote doesn't even do anything
Twitter users not reacting well to Merg's second video, even though he was a victim of Shayy as well by him throwing gas on how the community was ganging up on him, makes me sigh at the lack of awareness. Its not a competition and he has a right to have his say as well since everyone is airing it out.
That's just completely false in sense that merg wasn't assaulted or abused by them. That vid was a complete clusterfuck of a narcissism and dancing on a grave for their own benefit.
Respectfully Disagree, Shayy added fuel to the fire during a time where he was being harass by a bunch of the community. The screenshots also more or less mocking him, calling him 'barely a Undertale youtuber' while also unironically calling himself not a gooner.
Don't care how weird you may feel about him, he has a right to air it all out as well, because I have seen this community and other similar jump on creators for similar dumb reasons and its not healthy for anyone.
No content creator should celebrate being better than repeated stained sexual maniac.
The whole idea of video just screams vengeance for being exposed as weirdo without actually collaborating with people, who were actually hurt by their actions. The community is rightfully enraged about using their comfort interest for pervere fantasies.
I don't know my dude, Id say he has it pretty justified to be like that since that was one of the bigger/biggest voices that smeared him and it lead to a bad dog piling I haven't seen since classic Homestuck witch hunts.
Harassing is still pretty fucking bad, this community in the past has done it BAD. Yeah its not someone physically touching him, but mentally that shit is pretty damn bad for anyone, it is still a form of bullying.
And if people don't like him for 'using their comfort interest', they are in charge of the buttons that they see and can block and move on to a creator that they prefer. What he does is what many others already do, and what others do like.
Stampy long nose played undertale he would never do this
I have very bad news dude
I looked it up he is not a groomer there is no evidence I
Idk if it’s technically grooming since there wasn’t a bad ending but he dated a 17 yo sqaishey when he was 23, and at that time they weren’t another YouTuber but just a fan of theirs
A 23 dating a 17 is not grooming.
Take an example. I am currently in Trade school. We got people from 17 to 35. Everyone is at the same step of life right now.
Someone around 25 and more, it would be strange for them to date a 17. But under 25? Bro, they are almost the same. Seriously. People around 23 may think they are more mature, but as a matter of fact they aren't.
All I’m saying is that it shouldn’t be that hard to stay 18+ lol
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My guy how do you f up math that badly, it’s 6 years not 4 lmfao
Also don’t defend that weird shit, none of that parasocial stuff
Oh my bad I thought it was 21 Stampy was
He dated a 16 year old
WHAT Google refuses the truth
Oh wait NVM in the UK you can do that
Bro what, he was 23
I know the UK is fucking weird
UK citizen here: No that's still weird.
I guess I shouldn't trust Gemini ai yeah fuck Stampy
Sheyy is a fucking groomer
no shit he is but we must not send death threats (not saying you did)
the character development is crazy
I think that they were referring to stamps not being a groomer when they said that there ws no evidence and the second post was intended to mean more like "shayy is the groomer not stamps. Its not very clear what they meant either way
Correct
Fuck shay. I hate him so much. Is he is prison or not?
stfu shayy was awesome but his mistake leads to his downfall
That’s what I wanna know.
He's supposedly not going but is still taking therapy sessions
Pity. They deserved to do at least some time. No amount of therapy is ever gonna make up for the damage caused. Guess their punishment is gonna just solely be them ruining their life and losing everything they built up. Because they are never gonna be accepted in this community or online again.
i agree.
they do deserve proffesional help AND prision time.
it sucks that they were in a really bad mental state; but that doesnt change the fact that they assaulted multiple people and groomed multiple people.
Hate to break it to you, but most of that document (at least from what ive skimmed through) includes "only" online grooming and such, and it is unfortunately very rare for someone to face time for online stuff like that, at least from what I've seen. It's always very depressing to see people going virtually unpunished for that stuff, at least when it comes to legal matters
Yeah that is sad. People like this just let off the hook.
I meant they
What a terrible creature, torturing such a poor, innocent youth.
Wait, the froggit that toriel shooed away
The froggit ($h@yy) hurting frisk (the victims) It all makes sense now
Merg cooked with his two videos again merg is a chill guy he didn't deserve the harassment just for something that really didn't matter. He is a chill YouTuber and I'm glad he continues making YouTube videos. And please as he said support the victims. It really sucks that Merg got so much hate and Shayy made things worse I think or Shayy jumped in to make Merg seem worse.
What exactly did Merg do? I never watched him.
I mean not much just make some Gooner thumbnails that really weren't harming anyone and a bunch of people including Shayy tried to make him seem way worse for an adult Chara thumbnail. As Merg said Shayy was a hypocrite. It was nothing to get mad over and Shayy chiming in to also attack Merg is awful.
Uhhh.. So people were attacking him because he made an adult Chara and put it in a thumbnail?? Wtf?! How is that offensive to anyone? I’ve seen tons of fanart of Frisk and Chara as adults. That is a stupid thing to get mad over.
Well look who got the last laugh now! Not Shayy!
yeah wait same I am not attached to the undertale community so much what happened
People saying: "why'd shayy have to go and do that now" "they were a good streamer"
Bro BEHIND THE SCENES THEY WERE ALREADY DOING THAT SHIT IT ISN'T NEW IT STARTED YEARS AGO AND THEYRE NOW FINALLY GETTING WHAT THEY DESERVE. SHAYY SHOULD NEVER BE CALLED AN UNDERTALE FAN AGAIN. WE DONT ACCEPT THEM IN OUR FANDOM ANYMORE FUCK THEM.
"he cant read hes a groomer" ahh
Time to read the undertale bible again
you have got to be kidding me dude I was such a huge fan of shayy 😭😭😭
sooo they nuked their latest vid?
or was it just reported to hell and youtube's all-knowing AI took action?
They removed it, they seem to be removing all videos with fangames and stuff created by people who don’t want to be associated
that's, actually respectable.
ofc, long LONG way until they make up for everything. if that's even possible.
but at the very least they seem to have guilt.
Yeah nothing they do can make up for this. They are done for. I don’t think we’ll ever be seeing them again on the internet. And hope we don’t!